For thousands of years the “controversial” thoughts expressed on this gossip forum website were mainstream.

William Tyndale

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Millions of your ancestors are looking down on you, smiling, for your strongly-held beliefs on a myriad of topics freely and openly discussed on this board. (Thanks Josh). A thousand years ago we would have just been normies, but in clown world we are the outcasts. Don’t let the world bring you down. Hate it instead.
 
Now that I think about it, what exactly do you think our ancestors from 1,000 years ago would like about the views of conservative A&Hers? If we go back 1,000 years ago...

- Racism is barely a thing
- Nationalism is a foreign, alien concept
- Individual rights are not respected
- Capitalist ideals are a disgusting, blasphemous upheaval of the natural order
- Sexual promiscuity is widespread and normalised
- Animal abuse is funny
- Fucking little children isn't a big deal
- Going to prostitutes is based
- Simping for femoids is part of the chivalric tradition
- Abortions aren't a big deal
- Censorship is good
- Tyranny is normal
- Commonborn people should not have political opinions
- Null should be executed for disrespecting his government

Do you just ignore all that because they also didn't like trannies?
 
Millions of your ancestors are looking down on you, smiling, for your strongly-held beliefs on a myriad of topics freely and openly discussed on this board. (Thanks Josh). A thousand years ago we would have just been normies, but in clown world we are the outcasts. Don’t let the world bring you down. Hate it instead.
You need to go outside. The internet isn't real.
 
No, 1,000 years ago in Western Europe.
Specifically viking-occupied Britain? Because the Church had a hardline stance against the promiscuity, prostitution, and abortion, and 90% of peasants hardly had the time to do either three.
 
Specifically viking-occupied Britain? Because the Church had a hardline stance against the promiscuity, prostitution, and abortion, and 90% of peasants hardly had the time to do either three.
No, in Christian Western Europe. Medieval people thought abstinence from sex caused fatal illnesses, regularly entered in and out of unofficial common law marriages at whim, prostitution was ubiquitous and brothels were sometimes even owned and managed by monastic communities, and a pre-quickening abortion was a minor sin that was often forgiven without penance.

People were degenerates 1,000 years ago.
 
Sorry for sperging, but thats not really all true:

- Racism is barely a thing
- Nationalism is a foreign, alien concept
In 1002 the Anglo Saxon King Æthelred the Unready ordered mass killing of the Danes in England, as he considered them secretly loyal to the Danish King. Nationalism was definitely a thing, and so was ethnic cleansing.

- Individual rights are not respected
True that. The sword was respected. And sometimes the axe.

- Sexual promiscuity is widespread and normalised
It was widespread, but its also extremely stigmatised. Killing a man in whorebed was legal, according to the law of the times.

- Fucking little children isn't a big deal
- Going to prostitutes is based
Both were illegal, and could get you hanged or branded. That doesn't mean it didn't happen, though.

- Tyranny is normal
Very true. Normal really is an understatement, as there was nothing else.

- Commonborn people should not have political opinions
They could if they had an army of angry people behind them. Which happened often.
 
Medieval people regularly entered in and out of unofficial common law marriages at whim

Could not find a source describing your claim, only that the Second Lateran Council forbade common law marriages. Does that mean common law marriages were super common? Maybe, but Northwestern Europe was also struggling with a shortage of priests.

Although, the Fatimid Caliphate probably had Mut'ah marriages. I don't know how prevalent it was, and I doubt historians do either.

prostitution was ubiquitous

I'm not arguing ubiquity, I'm arguing against Medieval Christians thinking prostitution was "based". Men who visted brothels knew they were sinning. The Church clearly

And brothels were located in the cities. It would've been difficult/not worth the effort for most peasants to visit them.

pre-quickening abortion was a minor sin that was often forgiven without penance.

Not every priest subscribed to Aristotelian anthropology, and even those who did still gave out penances for early-stage abortion.

I also doubt the Church kept records of the number of abortions that occurred within a single year, so whether they were common or uncommon is hard to prove.
 
Could not find a source describing your claim, only that the Second Lateran Council forbade common law marriages. Does that mean common law marriages were super common? Maybe, but Northwestern Europe was also struggling with a shortage of priests.

Although, the Fatimid Caliphate probably had Mut'ah marriages. I don't know how prevalent it was, and I doubt historians do either.



I'm not arguing ubiquity, I'm arguing against Medieval Christians thinking prostitution was "based". Men who visted brothels knew they were sinning. The Church clearly

And brothels were located in the cities. It would've been difficult/not worth the effort for most peasants to visit them.



Not every priest subscribed to Aristotelian anthropology, and even those who did still gave out penances for early-stage abortion.

I also doubt the Church kept records of the number of abortions that occurred within a single year, so whether they were common or uncommon is hard to prove.
Dyn is Aussie so I doubt he can recall much from his European, or otherwise muddied roots.
 
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- Sexual promiscuity is widespread and normalised

To add to what I said earlier, not only is this not true, the reverse is true in the extreme. According to medieval law where I come from, if a man had consensual sex with a woman outside of marriage, the womans kin could demand 9 (roughly 2 kg) marks of silver in restitution from the whorecarl, and he would be declared lawless and banished if he did not pay. If the maid or wife in question, accused him of rape, then the latter punishment was automatic.

Furthermore, if a man was killed in whorebed with another mans wife or daughter, then the slain whorecarl could not be buried in the churchyard, he would have to be buried outside of the fence (which was considered an extreme punishment).
 
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