US US Politics General - Discussion of President Biden and other politicians

 

[Qtinterval]

I don't think it's so much that the base wants Trump, but wants what Trump represents - they want a candidate that is willing to actually protect and advance the economic and social interests of the base. And if that means having to repudiate the thirty years of status-quo thinking on foreign trade, immigration, overseas policy, and the military-security state, so be it.

But of course the dipshits don't realize this, instead trying to repeat the mid-80's Reagan-Bush playbook...as if the country in any way still resembles the country of that era, or that most voters even give a shit about the Reagan-Bush days when they're facing high crime, social decay, runaway inflation, economic instability, and the prospect of fucking World War III.

Not to be a dick....the country today does resemble the 80s, at least in most of the metrics you listed. Other than that couldn't agree more.

 

[ForTheHoard]

Cruz is part of the swamp. But he's great at acting as the GOP foil. I remember when he was doing a standard press BBQ campaign thing. And Ellen Page came out of nowhere and just started arguing with him about LGBTQ, and he blew her ass out in front of everyone. While eating a pork sandwich. (Ellen Page is Vegan)

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Cruz's level of basedness is tied directly to the length of his beard.

 

[oh no its pipkun]

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2023/08/02/fact-sheet-bidenomics-at-work-in-79-metro-areas-with-record-low-unemployment-rates/

Factcheck the unemployment is still Under 4% if anyone believes our numbers lol

No joke they claim the unemployment after all those headlines about layoffs is 3.5 % in July here is bureau of labour report i shit you not they just wrote lol its low we say so don't believe your lying eyes

Unemployment means no job but looking for one. if you stop looking youre not counted. labor participation is a better number.

 

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Unemployment means no job but looking for one. if you stop looking youre not counted. labor participation is a better number.

How bad are the labor participation numbers, and have they started fucking with those by like, double counting people who work two jobs to pay rent?

 

[Super Hans v2]

How bad are the labor participation numbers, and have they started fucking with those by like, double counting people who work two jobs to pay rent?

Civilian labor force participation rate

www.bls.gov

Official number is ~62.5%, meaning a full third of those 16 or older are either retired or gave up.

 

[MirrorNoir]

How long can you 'count the votes' of an election to keep the current party in power? Could 'counting the vote' last until end of 2025 or longer?

Prior to the 2020 election, John Oliver did a segment on Last Week Tonight where he basically said "expect WEEKS to pass before we "know" who won the 2020 election".

It all depends on how long the Democrats are willing to drag shit out to get the results they want and how fast they can initiate the necessary ratfucking ala Hillary/Obama to destroy/delegitimize Trump via new legal investigations.

I'm not from a red state and have spent almost no time in red states and I don't know political conservatives irl, I only know about the belief that the cops will be on the side of Real Murican Patriots from the internet.

It seems deranged to me. What is sane is recognizing that PDs will act in their own selfinterest, and this is predictable. PDs are going to take the actions that 1) keep them alive and whole in the moment 2) keep their families safe 3) lead to continued paychecks and 4) protect their pensions.

I know exactly what cops are going to do, there are no surprises. So I can plan. So I like dealing with cops. I don't have any illusions about them, it's like doing business with Chinese people.

I mentioned this in another post. If Civil War breaks out, one of several things will happen to the cops

1. They try and pull a Revolutionary War deal and go neutral and try and keep their towns and cities neutral/out of the conflict and basically throw in after the fact with whichever side won the civil war

2. Actively take a side to the bitter end

3. Pretend to stay neutral but sabotage and spy for their respective sides

4. Try and exploit the chaos for their own personal needs.

5. Get the fuck out of town and resign/join the horde of refugees fleeing the war.

One possible tactic they can use to effectively keep Trump out of the race is to basically say all campaigning he does is interfering with the trials. He'd be unable to speak in public and therefore unable to run.

They tried everything they could during his Presidency, threw everything at the wall to see what would stick. Now the stakes are higher.

I am convinced he will not be allowed on the ballot. If he is, there will be no election for "reasons."

We are in end stage Roman Republic shit. By 2030 or so we will be a dictatorship with fake trappings of democratic offices much like Imperial Rome.

The only question now is will the Optimates or Populares win.

That's a LOT of work, a lot of shit where they can't predict how it would play out, especially with the public and even with people in the media who have started breaking the conditioning

At which point, Biden and his ilk have to ask themselves "would it not be easier to just fucking assassinate Trump and blame some random Muslim? Trump getting killed because he pissed off ISIS can be sold WAY easier and might actually fucking work ala Oswald if we have a MAGA patsy kill the Muslim patsy before he gets interrogated...."

 

[Dog-O-Tron 5000v5.0]

Who in Desantis team isn’t abandoning ship at this point?
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https://www.theepochtimes.com/mkt_app/us/mega-donor-threatens-to-cut-off-funding-if-desantis-doesnt-go-moderate-5446880

https://archive.ph/XAA8J

Holy fuck this faggot wants DeSantis to be EVEN WEAKER?

I thought this was gonna be about his shit poll numbers and collapse of his effort but no, "he needs to be more moderate he is getting too extreme" holy fuck no wonder they were so happy to play along with 2020 electoral fraud with a GOP like this who needs the DNC?

Donates to "Never Back Down PAC"

Immediately asks the candidate to "Back Down"

he's got a young look to him, he's black, and he's been getting himself in the spotlight a lot lately

but yeah whoever Trump picks, traditional wisdom is you go for something you aren't, so that's why he had the relatively normal and boring religious conservative style in Pence
you already have one Trump-like guy on the card in Trump, you can hedge your bets with a different sort of person in the VP slot

Sure, get a Principled Conservative like Pence, what could go wrong?

Alternatively, he runs with a Trump-like guy as his VP who is significantly younger, cementing MAGA / Right Wing Populism in the US as something that isn't going to go away if they can just burn Trump hard enough.

Exactly. He needs to make the VP his Annointed Successor.

 

[Some Dumb Faggot]

Unemployment means no job but looking for one. if you stop looking youre not counted. labor participation is a better number.

They keep changing the definition of things to suit a narrative. They are people and they are infact not working. Shouldn't that count?

If anything those people should be counted and are infact worse because a majority of them get entitlements which means they are actively leeching off the Government which is why the Government is running a trillion dollar deficit.

 

[Whoopsie Daisy]

hes black so Ben Shapiro and other TDS turds won’t say anything against him because he wants to be cool,

"Clarence Thomas is a House nigger/uncle tom/coon" - Leftists.

"Racism; It's Ok when (D) do it."

 

[WelfareNiggerQueen]

Hmm.... KiwiFarms who do you think will be Trump's VP?

Schizo Kennedy man or the Indian.

I really hope Trump has started to dig into the past of these people because it doesn't seem he does shit like that, just a good ol fashioned brief biography/resume shall do. God bless America if that Poo nigger becomes VP. Bro is going to be riding Trump's dick all the time to import more of India and probably connive to get him removed from office or killed so he can usher in his Poo Poo Pee Pee Utopia despite fuckers like him hating everything about India at the same time(I guess they really like being sucked up to that much).

For the Schizo man just task him with the destruction and tard wrangling of all the alphabet agencies. He's very passionate about that, not so much everything else. Everything else is just leftoid nonsense.

 

[Celebrate Nite]

I really hope Trump has started to dig into the past of these people because it doesn't seem he does shit like that

I'm sure he's learned his lesson by now after the 1283476124786237645th time he got stabbed in the back when he was president.

 

[John.Doe]

The trouble with the VP pick is that whoever is chosen must be someone who the Swamp could never accept as the President, because if the CIA thinks they have even a chance of controlling the VP they will JFK Trump in a second. You have to present them with a Teddy Roosevelt situation to forestall the martyrdom of Trump and the ascension of the Blood Revenge VP.

 

[The Ugly One]

The trouble with the VP pick is that whoever is chosen must be someone who the Swamp could never accept as the President, because if the CIA thinks they have even a chance of controlling the VP they will JFK Trump in a second. You have to present them with a Teddy Roosevelt situation to forestall the martyrdom of Trump and the ascension of the Blood Revenge VP.

Why do you think they got rid of Agnew first?

 

[Random Internet Person]

It's this. Never had to be Trump, he was simply the first to speak such things and, most importantly, follow through on them. It's why the left-wing histrionics regarding Trump remains funny because the average Trump voter really don't care that he's boisterous, corrupt, or rich - they care he talks to them like a human being, shares their love for their country, and wants to see them succeed. No shocker Trump induces such fierce loyalty in spite of his vices, he earned it.

Beltway pundits and the incestuous political advisory industry though will always fail to replicate this because actually giving back to the average American is anathema to them, even the barest of scraps. Arguably the only reason it persists is because these people honestly expect the established order to never change, because something something supposed liberal utopia inevitability.

And then we get people saying that after Trump, the next guy will be something like /pol/ and Warhammer on steroids in terms of policies regarding the enemies of America, foreign and domestic.

 

[The Last Stand]

I mentioned this in another post. If Civil War breaks out, one of several things will happen to the cops

1. They try and pull a Revolutionary War deal and go neutral and try and keep their towns and cities neutral/out of the conflict and basically throw in after the fact with whichever side won the civil war

2. Actively take a side to the bitter end

3. Pretend to stay neutral but sabotage and spy for their respective sides

4. Try and exploit the chaos for their own personal needs.

5. Get the fuck out of town and resign/join the horde of refugees fleeing the war.

Cops are barely respected as it is based on authority and pension. Once that goes away, they can turn into gangs, criminals, and spies.

 

[draggs]

Meatball's campaign manager out but is now chief campaign strategist

What is even the point lol

 

[General Emílio Médici]

"Orange man wins by merely existing" is not even a meme it is a fact.

Trump has the Mandate of Heaven. Reality itself is running some cover for him.

 

[George Lucas]

This DeSantis person seems gay.

 

[Random Internet Person]

https://twitter.com/greg_price11/status/1688941143369588736

 

[mandatorylurk]

Meatball's campaign manager out but is now chief campaign strategist

What is even the point lol

People's Pundit with Barnes was yesterday, they make good points that reflect this recent "REVAMP RELAUNCH RELOAD"

The Meatball talk starts at 37:00 but the key point is at 44:00, where Baris has been speaking to a bigger donor of Rob, and they has said that Rob won't quit, Rob and Casey are borderline delusional and he's relying too much on her now and she was fed too much BS from the overpriced consultants and is in a place where a full meltdown is coming. Rob is now completely in denial and thought he would be in the lead at this point, and doesn't understand he's 25 points behind in motherfucking Florida. The consultants played Casey and she is playing Rob and pretending he can win it at the convention.