Adam Johnston / YourMovieSucks / YourMovieSucksDOTorg / AnUnkindness - It's hip to fuck dogs.

[Mega Negroid Gyroid]

This debate is sad. Adam is getting every point he makes absolutely destroyed by MauLer.

Yeah, the crux of this debate is him just shitting on drinker's politics and shitting on his audience and him for noticing how ram-rodded progressivism is in media. Also Adam needs to remind you again he's the only guy who values true cinema and arthouse.

 

[B'owl]

Yeah, the crux of this debate is him just shitting on drinker's politics and shitting on his audience and him for noticing how ram-rodded progressivism is in media. Also Adam needs to remind you again he's the only guy who values true cinema and arthouse.

He's also just incapable of holding any train of thought. He sounds so unprepared to answer any question.

 

[Harm]

Not even 30 mins into the debate and Adum is already devolving into arguments like "well, what does the word 'into' actually even mean?" to avoid explaining what he means when he says Critical Drinker makes videos for people who aren't "into" films as an artform. Because Critical Drinker covers Disney films. Unlike Adum who is currently working on his magnum opus, part 2 of the Lion King 2019 review.

He's floundering beyond belief.

edit: Holy fuck, he just said "I think life itself is art!" Bruh, he's dying out here.

edit 2: "This conversation's art. It literally is."

 

[SteelPlatedHeart]

Edit: He's now talking about the Hollywood male emasculation being a lie & TCD is a "conspiracy theorist" for talking about it. He has the Russell Brand TCD interview snippet on screen with a purple bird at the moment. I don't watch Mauler much, but the last 30 mins actually shock me with how diplomatic he's being with Adum, when Adum actively deserves to have the silk gloves off against.

The sad thing is, Mauler was actually being a lot easier on him than, say, if the episode was about a Moviebob video or Synthetic Man, because Mauler and EFAP is at least somewhat friendly with Adam.

And even with being easier on him, he was still just destroying Adam’s arguments.

Adam was trying way to hard to come across like a “cultured intellectual” and it just made him sound like…actually, hang on. I just remembered something that almost perfectly describes how Adam acted in this.

 

[Watcher]

I saw like 10 minutes of this & like Mauler is essentially destroying him. Like it's not an interview but like, more of an interrogation. He is basically like, moving goalposts & jumbling words. He also, like, reminds people that he's a massive artsy-fartsy pretentious faggot, bitching about "Drinker's audience" being right-wing & shit &, like, diplomatically holding the urge yet, like, indirectly calling TCD every lefty buzzword possible, The Critical Drinker isn't even on the stream cause he's gone to Anime Matsuri (he did post a review about Gran Turismo movie about an hour ago from now tho).

Leftists do not debate. They lecture. So when the nature of what they are lecturing is challenged they have almost no room to stand on. Adam essentially regurgitates information he heard second hand and never actually looked into or thought about critically. For an atheist this is remarkably faith based thinking. It's genuinely impressive he had the balls to actually show up since historically the vast majority of leftists understand this on some level and prefer to avoid getting embarrassed on stream.

Not even 30 mins into the debate and Adum is already devolving into arguments like "well, what does the word 'into' actually even mean?" to avoid explaining what he means when he says Critical Drinker makes videos for people who aren't "into" films as an artform.

Semantic debates are what you get into when you are losing. Adam at that moment knows his argument is weak but can't back down from it so he needs to double down somehow.

 

[SteelPlatedHeart]

Adam’s problem essentially boils down to “CD has fans who are Conservative. I know that all conservatives are evil racist Nazi gay-bashers who voted for Trump. Therefore, CD is an evil racist Nazi gay-basher who voted for Trump”. Dude is surprisingly close-minded, considering.

The fact that he huffs his own farts over watching arthouse films is just added pretentiousness.

 

[Product Placement]

I think Drinker is a shit critic, but at least he doesn't get off to animals that alone makes him better than Adam

 

[Pedophobe]

Would anyone be interested in me uploading clips whenever i catch this shit from his livestreams? I am not gonna go through the trouble if it isn't worth archiving or if no one is interested.

That's... why we're here.

 

[pogoroooo]

Just catching up to all this adam "vs" drinker shit. It felt so unnecessary, like why wasting time in this kind of shit instead of, i don't know, doing something more productive? Deep down I think adam is kinda jealous of the drinker success; both have a similar amount of subscribers but drinker's channels have great engagement that I'm certain adam wishes he'd had on his own channels. A fair criticism of the drinker though is that he has become a people pleaser; he says the things that his audience wants to hear on his reviews of recent movies and I think that's because of the type of audience he has cultivated over the past years, mainly people who watch all the nerdrotic circle jerk gang. In this case I think it's not a bad thing, gave people what they want. Maybe adam should focus on doing something similar instead of shit like this. Streaming too much has rotted his fucking brain.

 

[Mega Negroid Gyroid]

Adam's response to the debate:

Spoiler: Rambling

He's right that this "debate" was ultimately a wash. If anything it further divided each other's fanbases, especially due to how pedantic and condescending Adam was. I like how he has this response as if this conversation was just an innocent and futile attempt at trying to expand EFAP's "MeDiA DiEt" when in reality you know he fucking hates them and everything they stand for. As much as the chat threw the term "bad-faith" around, he can't pretend that what really drove him to do this wasn't CD's politics because it was. Mauler had to constantly inform him about CD and who he was so that Adam could actually attack what he believed in and his other critiques. This was on top of him constantly insinuating that the entire EFAP fanbase are retarded Ben Shapiro-watching, reactionary, conspiratorial-brained Qtards. Throwing out "guilt by association" felt like an easy move and I'm surprised he didn't flat out call them fascists like he would maybe during a solo stream, given that EFAP hangs out with E;R who makes tons of edgy jokes. Its strange because I learned that EFAP makes a huge effort in directly avoiding politics and Adam in his reviews does the same for the most part, but came across as a complete ideologue throughout all this and kept going on these political tangents. From what I chose to subject myself during this, I caught Adam saying insane shit like that people in general need to stop bringing Disney, etc. films and their practices into film discourse. Which is funny because he does that on a majority of Sardonicast and instead says to start focusing on these niche directors and films that he himself loves. He said we need to support "real art and artists" while chanting "just go and fly to prestigious film festivals bro," which really angered the chat. Like are indie films an antidote to hyper progressive, preachy politics and ensure quality just because they're aren't mainstream? I remember him making his list for Fantasia Film Festival and dismissing like 80% of the screenings as utter garbage or shit he knew was gonna be bad. They also got into the age-old question "what makes a good female lead" question and said that EFAP were sad for bringing up Ripley and Connor and nothing as of recent.

Deep down I think adam is kinda jealous of the drinker success

I initially brushed this off as chat cheerleading because they were constantly spamming it but I think they're right in that Adam does express frustration when he sees numbers from time to time and that overall I think he feels extremely slighted that he isn't as big as other critics given that he champions himself a true film critic that goes outside the bounds of the masses. But at the same time he loves tearing down a lot of mainstream shit with his reviews or autisticly dissecting it like the Lion King and that's arguably the main draw of his channel.

 

[SteelPlatedHeart]

Great response, Adam. “Clearly I’m right and this audience is just a bunch of ignorant rednecks. I was too optimistic that I could save these ignorant peasants from themselves.”

I was fairly neutral on the guy overall before, but man does this make him seem like the worst kind of asshole.

 

[Jonah Hill poster]

Adam’s problem essentially boils down to “CD has fans who are Conservative. I know that all conservatives are evil racist Nazi gay-bashers who voted for Trump. Therefore, CD is an evil racist Nazi gay-basher who voted for Trump”. Dude is surprisingly close-minded, considering.

The fact that he huffs his own farts over watching arthouse films is just added pretentiousness.

Great response, Adam. “Clearly I’m right and this audience is just a bunch of ignorant rednecks. I was too optimistic that I could save these ignorant peasants from themselves.”

I was fairly neutral on the guy overall before, but man does this make him seem like the worst kind of asshole.

If anything, I question whether or not he thought it some kind of great flex to talk about anything that has nothing to do with film criticism. Critical Drinker is not even American, and bashing his fanbase as a last resort for their personal political affiliations is just a last resort to not even once understand his point of view.

This is why that even for their faults, you never see the like AVGN or Nostalgia Critic acting like this. YMS is (almost) on the verge of jumping the shark here.

 

[internet friend]

This faggot is probably most famous for reviewing cool cat. COOL FUCKING CAT. Where does he get these airs of being a serious art critic?

 

[Watcher]

This faggot is probably most famous for reviewing cool cat. COOL FUCKING CAT. Where does he get these airs of being a serious art critic?

It gives him a sense of self importance that justifies to him having an esoteric and pretentious attitude. Very similar to someone like Cole Smithey. He needs to see himself as above the peasants and being a cultured film critic is his way of doing that. It's also why he looks down on Critical Drinker because his audience are mostly working class men.

 

[SteelPlatedHeart]

Apparently, Adam said that Lisa is the most relatable character in The Simpsons during the stream.

 

[Harm]

Lisa is the most relatable character in The Simpsons

The know-it-all twat who's too up their own ass to see their own faults or put faith in the others they look down upon?

How could Adum of all people relate to that?

 

[Sparkling Yuzu]

It gives him a sense of self importance that justifies to him having an esoteric and pretentious attitude.

His BBC bussy pic should be shown whenever he sounds pretentious so people know not to take him seriously.

 

[BiggestKai]

I think this is less about Drinker and more about long term resentment Adam holds towards his audience. When you get down to it, Adam is known for a few things

• Reviewing shit like The Host, Cyberbully, Cool Cat, Death Race, the Saw franchise
• His heavily edited watchalong videos
• His Lion King videos
• His playthroughs where he had that Mark guy
• His livestreams where he tries to be a Cr1tikal/xQc/Hasan lite channel and review Dhar Mann or something
• Being a proud dogfucker

He is not known for going to film festivals because those videos don't do as well as his others, unless they involve relatively popular movies like Glass Onion or The Whale. He is not known for the Synecdoche videos because as much as he shilled for them barely anyone watched them(in the context that eight years ago when that series started, his YMS reviews on stuff like Cool Cat were literally 10 times more popular going by views).

His editing and video style just isn't conducive to reviews for "high art" movies because anyone who watches his quick edited, fast scripted, often beat you over the head of what he thinks is right reviews wouldn't watch his more esoteric recommendations.
I think YMS was one of the first channels to start the idea of hate watching a movie through a review that summarizes and makes fun of the movie, it's the perfect solution for people who want to get the general gist of a movie or tv show you believe or were told was shit without actually spending the time to watch it and doing so for free without breaking any faggy reservations you'd have for piracy. That kind of audience is one of the largest movie-related audiences on youtube and it's not an audience you can go

"Hey fellas, watch this obscure Japanese movie where the first 30 or so minutes are acted, shot and written like dogshit(and not the funny or ironic kind) on purpose so that it can provide a setup for a punchline the rest of the movie delivers"

One Cut of the Dead
and expect them to do anything but ignore the movie because the concept of people not watching multiple movies on a daily basis and instead being seen as an entertaining past time to spend a few hours on seems foreign to Adam, movies are srs business and his MENSA application hinges on the fact that unlike the unwashed masses HE goes to film festivals, HE likes movies that aren't entertaining and nothing else, HE is the beacon of light in a sea of darkness.

He's locked into an audience of twitch/youtube paypiggies and people who want videos reinforcing their like/dislike of popular hollywood media and I think he holds resentment against them because everyone just wants to see the funny monkey dance on screen and it's too late to rebrand to appeal to the haughty films are art cloud because the movies he'd talk about just won't mesh with his editing style and I doubt that crowd would want to listen about him sperging about a barely heard triangle for however many minutes it was. Or maybe they do, who knows.

 

[Harm]

He is not known for the Synecdoche videos because as much as he shilled for them barely anyone watched them

For good reason too. Part 5 came out in June 2017. He hasn't even began work on part 6. No one wants to wait a fucking decade between parts of a movie review. No one is impressed that the movie's about the passage of time and he's letting ungodly amounts of time pass before continuing work on it.

He's far too busy watching serious films like Barbie, Lil Mermaid, Spider-Man, Super Mario Bros., John Wick, Pinocchio: A True Story, Cocaine Bear, Zootopia+, Puss in Boots: The Last WIsh, Black Adam, Smile, the Blade trilogy, Chip 'n Dale: Rescue Rangers, the Bad Guys, Morbius, Jackass Forever, or the Oscars so he can reiterate for the 5th year in a row that the Oscars are bad.

Because Adum is for people who are into serious critical film breakdowns of Space Jam: A New Legacy.

 

[Watcher]

I think YMS was one of the first channels to start the idea of hate watching a movie through a review that summarizes and makes fun of the movie, it's the perfect solution for people who want to get the general gist of a movie or tv show you believe or were told was shit without actually spending the time to watch it and doing so for free without breaking any faggy reservations you'd have for piracy. That kind of audience is one of the largest movie-related audiences on youtube and it's not an audience you can go

Adam isn't the first, not even close. Even at the time he started he was accused of copying Red Letter Media.