Megathread SRS and GRS surgeons and associated horrors - the medical community of experimental surgeons, the secret community of home butchers

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I sure as fuck don't. Much as I hate AGP's, it'll likely mostly end up being minors getting it to fit in more.

Young teenage boys who are going all in on trying to change sex are already taking blockers, which will reduce their height (and they will probably shrink throughout adulthood due to low bone density).

If leg-chopping surgery becomes an option, it will be late-transitioning 6'3 AGPs who look like fridges. And after the surgery they will look like slightly smaller fridges.
 
Imagine getting fucked by a parasite infested arm skin tube with a plastic pipe inside it. How much more degenerate can you get?
Giving uterus transplant pregnant TIF birth to the maggot baby, then letting your MTF wife breastfeed it with drug induced moobseep?

Don't ask questions you don't want answered.

Poetically, the modern day Cottonectomies, will also be Jap-induced.
("I killed fiddy 41 men!")

Also, puberty blockers don't do much for height. They cut off Castrati bals after all, and they were famously very tall people. The testosterone actually acts to reduce total height growth, counter intuitively.

By the by, we have been ragging on Parasite Dick, but those maggots probably saved her life and extended her rotdog time frame by eating all the necrosis, yk they do actually medically treat some things with maggots in this day and age. Gross but useful.
 
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I’m wondering what the parasite could be. Trypanosoma cruzi? (Chagas disease?) Onchocerciasis?
There’s that very nasty black wound halfway along the lamprey… could that be a botfly exit? Can you imagine the horror of having that thing attached to you and having a botfly in it?
Filariasis maybe? Is a parasite that can go long term unnoticed until complications appear
 
Here's a TiM thats wants nullo surgery. He initailly got approval from his surgeon for the full works but after his orchie they're getting concerned and are trying to drop him.
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Firstly, here's his face and some info:
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  • He is a Transfem non-binary girl, she/they
  • Posts on r/alcohol, r/eunuchs
  • Has herpes
  • He partially performed an orchie on himself back in 2016, wasn't successful but did damage to his genitals.
Since January of this year, I've been trying to get on track to have "nullification" surgery. However, the surgeons I've been meeting with (one of whom recently performed an orchiectomy on me) seem to be weirdly resistant to giving me what I want, even though I was initially told that I could have this surgery.

At my consult back in January, I was told that what I wanted - a combined orchiectomy, scrotectomy, and penectomy with rerouting of my urethra - was doable, and that the gender-affirming surgical team would discuss my case during an upcoming meeting to determine which surgeon would be the best to handle my surgery. I was later told that the decision had been made, and scheduled to meet with the other main surgeon in the urology department, who apparently was considered to be a better fit for what I wanted. But the day before that appointment, I was told that the surgeon did not want to meet with me because he "wanted to do more research and consult with other surgeons first." Which I think was pretty weird, but apparently there was some miscommunication within the surgical team during their meeting, and so maybe this surgeon was not clear on the reason for our meeting? Still weird.

Then I was also told that my letters of support were insufficient. I have letters of support from both my therapist and a social worker I have been meeting with who is part of the gender-affirming care team at the health center where my PCP is located. These letters specify the surgeries I want and why I want them and also discuss my history of gender dysphoria and other mental health issues. But I've been told by a staff member of the gender-affirming surgery team at the medical center where I am pursuing surgery that they need my letters to be even more hyper-specific, to the point of specifying why I do not want other surgeries.

Specifically, I've been told that my letters need to specify why I do not want or need a clitoris. Which seems even more weird. Both my therapist and social worker have already been very thorough in confirming the surgeries I want and why they believe it is a medical necessity for me. I don't see why they should also need to specify why it is a "medical necessity" for me to not have other surgeries that I don't want when I have already explained what I want and don't want. My state health insurance specifically covers penectomy as a gender-affirming surgery, so it's not an insurance issue.

Is this normal? Do people normally need to have their letters of support specify why they do not want other surgeries?
Here's a few comments I grabbed from him. He's quite interesting so I recommended reading these.
Graphic: When I partially performed an orchiectomy on myself back in 2016, I made a single incision along my raphe, pulled out my testes, and began to sever my left spermatic cord a few inches above my left testis. And the hospital I went to after stopping stitched me up just fine, leaving me with a single vertical scar along my raphe. So even if I hadn’t seen plenty of pictures of other people’s orchiectomy results, I know from firsthand experience that it is possible to perform the surgery that way.

I've been fortunate to never experience violence because of my transness or queerness, so I can only imagine how terrifying that was for you. But I have been in plenty of unsafe situations where I was being threatened or harassed or sexually assaulted, and I thought about those experiences a lot during the years that I was denying myself HRT. I can understand why it would make someone want to repress themself or detransition, and I guess in hindsight I was doing a bit of that myself, even though I never stopped openly identifying myself as trans.

I don't think it's horseshit to be thankful. I do try to be thankful for the good things I have in my life. But sometimes those things actually make existence more painful. Sometimes I cry purely because I can see exactly how happy I could be if only I hadn't let my body become like this. I feel that my body taints every experience I have. Every time I am reminded of what my body is like, it takes me out of the moment. And I struggle to explain to other people how weird and awful that feels.

When I was a teenager, I coped with the effects of masculinization by thinking of my body as a shell I was inhabiting or a machine I was piloting. I told myself that it didn't matter what my body looked like or sounded like or felt like, because it was just a tool for me to use to interact with my environment. I was already used to separating parts of my identity or my feelings, so it wasn't hard to separate myself from my body, too. And when the changes began affecting my mind, I coped by thinking of those things as separate from me as well, effectively dissociating from my own thoughts and actions. That was dangerous though. You can do some pretty awful things when nothing you do feels like it's really you doing it. And it's hard to stop when you can't tell which of your thoughts are actually you. I think I might be describing depersonalization, but I'm not sure.

Anyway, these days I'm better at discerning which parts of my mind are the real me. But as I've gotten more in tune with myself, my body just feels more like a prison, to the point that I sometimes feel the urge to cut myself out of it. Because I've realized that most people don't think like that. They see their bodies as themselves, and they also see my body as me. I used to think that as long as I was true to myself (whatever that means for me), people would somehow be able to see past my shell. But they really don't. Even the people who love me most.

And I want people to see me when they look at me, not just this shell. When someone touches me, I want it to feel like they're really touching me, not just the skin I'm wearing. I want to be able to look in the mirror and see myself, not just the increasingly not-me thing that I've become accustomed to seeing. There definitely was a time when I had those things, but it's been so long now that I've forgotten what it felt like. I just want to be able to feel that way again. It's my only remaining goal in life, which is why it's difficult for me to not put so much weight on it.

I appreciate the sympathy, though I don’t regret trying to perform an orchiectomy on myself 7 years ago. I only regret that I didn’t let myself finish it before calling for medical assistance. It would have saved me from a lot of future pain and preserved some of the things I liked about my body back then. I’d probably be a much happier and healthier person today.

That said, I hope you’re able to get an orchiectomy done by a doctor soon, because obviously that’s safer. But If you ever do attempt it on yourself again, please make sure you sterilize the blades and your scrotum thoroughly beforehand to minimize infection risk. And also make the incision along your scrotal raphe for less obvious scarring, in case you might want to preserve your scrotal tissue for a future gender-affirming surgery. I did a good enough job during my attempt that no one I’ve had sex with in the years since has ever noticed or commented on the scar.

Also, I know we all have different tolerances for pain, but for me personally, compared to my really bad IBS cramps or the experience of having a bowel movement during my first anal herpes outbreak, the pain of an orchiectomy is really not that bad. Even during my self-surgery attempt 7 years ago, the biggest issue was that my brain kept trying to make me pass out, not the pain, which was surprisingly low with me only taking a couple acetaminophen pills. I say that only to dissuade anyone from avoiding getting this surgery out of fear of pain if they really want it.

Because when I was 3 years old, I dreamed about cuddling naked with other boys. And now I live with my male partner and sleep naked next to him almost every night. I was a queer child and grew into a queer adult. What a twist!

I've known for pretty much my entire life that I'm attracted to boys/men. I just didn't learn that feeling that way meant I was queer until I was a teenager and discovered gay porn, because my parents and the other adults in my life never told me about queer people and shamed me whenever I expressed my queerness. If on the day I made a Valentine's Day card for another boy calling him cute, my father had a conversation with me about being gay instead of just telling me "don't do that," I'm sure I would have identified myself as queer from the age of 6, if not even sooner.

It's no different with being trans. I always knew that I was dissatisfied with being a boy, though certainly puberty forced me to think about the relationship of my body to my gender much more intensely. I never identified myself as trans though, because I didn't even know of the concept of being transgender and not being stuck with the gender you were assigned at birth. But as soon as I found out as a teenager that "sex change surgery" and living as another gender was possible, I knew that's what I wanted for myself. If any of the adults in my family had talked to me about my feelings concerning gender after I wrote, directed, and starred myself in a play in which I was a female character as an elementary schooler, and if they had supported and encouraged me to explore myself instead of restricting me, I'm sure I also would have identified myself as trans a lot sooner.

But I recently decided to pursue breast reduction, and I found it surprisingly difficult to schedule a consultation with a particular surgeon. The surgeon I want to see performs both "top surgery" for trans men and AFAB nonbinary patients and breast reduction for cis men with gynecomastia, but I was initially told that because I am AMAB and trans it would not be possible for him to give me a breast reduction. I repeatedly asked the staff members I was talking to over the phone to clarify what the issue was, and not only were they unable to give me an answer beyond "hormones" (which makes no sense to me because cis women can also get breast reductions), they were also insistent that there was a difference between "top surgery" for trans patients and breast reduction for gynecomastia, yet were unable to explain what the difference was. The only thing that seemed to get through to anyone was when I asked pointblank why if a trans man, an AFAB nonbinary person, and a cis man could all get a peri-areolar breast reduction, I couldn't do so as an AMAB nonbinary person, and also when I asked why there would be a difference between the breasts I developed from taking exogenous hormones and the breasts a cis man might develop from taking exogenous hormones.

I ended up convincing them to let me schedule a consultation anyway, but they also gave me referrals to few other surgeons who they said "do the kind of surgery I want." But after looking at the other surgeons they recommended, I can't see any difference between the surgeries those surgeons offer and the ones the surgeon I want to see offers. So either I'm completely misunderstanding something or the people working in this surgeon's office don't understand how these surgeries work.

I get kind of annoyed when I’m having sex with a guy and he gets focused on trying to make me hard or make me cum. And my penis also feels mutilated to me since my circumcision, which is part of why I want to get rid of it entirely. So maybe I’ll feel similarly to you once I have the surgery. I’m feeling kind of done with sex these days anyway.

I don’t want neovaginoplasty for several reasons:

  • the surgery is much more complex and invasive, with a higher risk of complications
  • I don’t like the idea of having a hole made in my pelvic floor that then needs to be forcibly kept open
  • I don’t like the idea of having to work to maintain a part of my body, and I think I’d struggle to keep up with dilation
  • I have less tissue to work with because of my circumcision and the size of my genitals, so I’d probably need skin grafts, which I don’t want
  • I’ve already lost a lot of sensitivity and developed sensory issues in my genitals due to my previous circumcision and self-castration attempt, which would probably make penetrative sex less comfortable
  • the loss of my mucous membrane also means I’ve already lost much of my self-lubricating ability, which would also affect how enjoyable sex would be for me
  • my penile skin is still very fragile and tears easily, even with synthetic lube, and I don’t want to deal with tearing inside my body
  • I have genital herpes and currently feel uncomfortable with any form of sex that risks spreading it, so I wouldn’t be having sex anyway
Also, I don’t particularly value having externally female-looking genitalia, so I don’t want the zero-depth surgical option either.
 
That description of him performing an orchi on himself by cutting up his taint, pulling his balls out and starting to cut one off absolutely broke me. I'm going to need to take a short break from this thread I think. I've read every page here and no picture, no description and no story to this point has made me squirm like that one did.

Self-harm to that degree is something I firmly believe only a man would be capable of doing to themselves. That level of mental illness is disgusting and the fact that we, as a society, have to play along with these freaks and pretend they're women instead of the brain-broken, psychotic, porn-addicted freaks that they are makes me very sad for the future. By tolerating people like this we are letting the worst of the worst; the real freaks, narcissists and otherwise mentally ill, legally invade women's protected spaces.
 
I don’t want neovaginoplasty for several reasons:

  • the surgery is much more complex and invasive, with a higher risk of complications
  • I don’t like the idea of having a hole made in my pelvic floor that then needs to be forcibly kept open
  • I don’t like the idea of having to work to maintain a part of my body, and I think I’d struggle to keep up with dilation
  • I have less tissue to work with because of my circumcision and the size of my genitals, so I’d probably need skin grafts, which I don’t want
  • I’ve already lost a lot of sensitivity and developed sensory issues in my genitals due to my previous circumcision and self-castration attempt, which would probably make penetrative sex less comfortable
  • the loss of my mucous membrane also means I’ve already lost much of my self-lubricating ability, which would also affect how enjoyable sex would be for me
  • my penile skin is still very fragile and tears easily, even with synthetic lube, and I don’t want to deal with tearing inside my body

When the weirdo trying to get a Ken doll crotch after performing home castration surgery has a more rational, well-informed, and clear-eyed view of neovaginas than the average MtF.

Self-harm to that degree is something I firmly believe only a man would be capable of doing to themselves

Oh, honey. Stay out of the Kelly Ronahan thread.
 
When the weirdo trying to get a Ken doll crotch after performing home castration surgery has a more rational, well-informed, and clear-eyed view of neovaginas than the average MtF.
He strikes me as a CSA survivor. We have plenty examples of girls here who are dead set on eradicating their genitals due to CSA so we're bound to find examples of the male equivalent eventually.

He seems very different to most of the TiMs that's for sure.
 
He seems very different to most of the TiMs that's for sure.
He seems intelligent and knows about anatomy more than most troons, especially about the self surgery. There was a guy on the show Botched who wanted to become a genderless alien who reminds me of him. Definitely mentally ill but theres logic and reason (not magical thinking) and he seems to have a clear vision of what the outcome will be. A surgical horror for sure, but I don't think he fits in with the majority of fetishists in this tread.
That description of him performing an orchi on himself by cutting up his taint, pulling his balls out
I have a strong suspicion that he used 'proper' medical devices to accomplish this or at least attempted to. These days you can buy medical strength lidocaine from Korea, surgical hemostats, #15 scalpels and forceps online all to your door, even sutures; all sterile. Throw in some iodine, surgery videos on Youtube and some anatomy education from Frank Netter and its entirely possible to pull it off.

Heres a quote from him about his plastic surgery goals:
I’m planning to have brow bone reduction with orbital rim contouring and brow lift, scalp advancement to lower my hairline (likely with hair transplant later), rhinoplasty, mandible contouring with genioplasty, and a tracheal shave. I’m also considering a lip lift since the surgeon I had my consultation with suggested it. I didn’t do anything to my lips in the editing though (nor the area around my eyes). But after looking at these pictures a lot, I’ve realized that something does look off about my lips. I’m not sure a lip lift is right for me though because I have a bit of a gummy smile.
Again, seems to have a clear idea of which procedures will have his desired outcome. Insane? Yes but in a mad scientist kinda way.
 
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He strikes me as a CSA survivor. We have plenty examples of girls here who are dead set on eradicating their genitals due to CSA so we're bound to find examples of the male equivalent eventually.

He seems very different to most of the TiMs that's for sure.

My guess is that he matches the more typical psychological profile you would find in the extreme body mod community (insane and compulsive but not actively delusional), but he is hanging around in trans circles because he has figured out (consciously or unconsciously) that that is how he can get doctors to give him what he wants.

It will be interesting to see whether this starts happening more in the future. Doctors are still prosecuted for performing extreme body mod procedures. There's a whole untapped market out there, if a few activists can slowly shift the narrative so that the desire to cut your ears off becomes an intrinsic part of some people's gender identity.

"Earlessgender people have always existed, bigot! Every major medical association agrees that ear amputation is the best way to reduce ear-related suicides. Why do you want kids to die?"
 
It will be interesting to see whether this starts happening more in the future. Doctors are still prosecuted for performing extreme body mod procedures. There's a whole untapped market out there, if a few activists can slowly shift the narrative so that the desire to cut your ears off becomes an intrinsic part of some people's gender identity.

"Earlessgender people have always existed, bigot! Every major medical association agrees that ear amputation is the best way to reduce ear-related suicides. Why do you want kids to die?"
that could be a movie plot for how dumb things have been like some kind of scary movie 6 with trannies, biden, trump, and trudaeu.
 
That description of him performing an orchi on himself by cutting up his taint, pulling his balls out and starting to cut one off absolutely broke me. I'm going to need to take a short break from this thread I think. I've read every page here and no picture, no description and no story to this point has made me squirm like that one did.

Self-harm to that degree is something I firmly believe only a man would be capable of doing to themselves. That level of mental illness is disgusting and the fact that we, as a society, have to play along with these freaks and pretend they're women instead of the brain-broken, psychotic, porn-addicted freaks that they are makes me very sad for the future. By tolerating people like this we are letting the worst of the worst; the real freaks, narcissists and otherwise mentally ill, legally invade women's protected spaces.
Same here, when he talked about "oh it's not that painful, your brain will just keep making you want to pass out, just power through." Demonic.
 
This troon had surgery with a Dr. Hanna and is one of the rare ones willing to admit the chop basically ruined his life and that he regrets having it:

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This poor mangled dude seems to have been hit with every possible complication. I'm surprised that he hasn't been ostracized from Transgender_Surgeries yet for daring to suggest his stinkditch installation wasn't the key to magical full-body cooms he was promised.


No pictures of the stinkditch (or his face) but I can imagine it must be pretty bad,
 
Self-harm to that degree is something I firmly believe only a man would be capable of doing to themselves.
I'm aware of acute inpatients (true and honest females too) with severe BPD that will self harm by inserting those plastic empty Biro pen sheathes into the forearms, and reopening wounds with their bare hands where they've tried to disembowel themselves, so can't be left alone. The thickest scarring from repeatedly opening up scars that build on top of each other aswell, no chicken scratches for these people. Scary shit what mentally ill people will do to themselves.
 
Self-harm to that degree is something I firmly believe only a man would be capable of doing to themselves

Oh, honey. Stay out of the Kelly Ronahan thread.
No, seriously — legs were not the only thing Kelly harmed — it's just what she's famous for. Or take another girl, that was mentioned in her thread — a Tumblr dweller with a melancholic nickname, — who cut her thighs almost to bones.
This shit truly knows no gender, no “masculine courage”, nothing. If you’re fucked in the head — you are fucked in the head, just as @Littlest Pooner wrote.
 
I don't know about autistic but she's probably literally schizophrenic, in her biography she said she hears voices telling her to cut herself and that she's an abomination.
That's paranoid schizophrenia.
I don't think she's schizophrenic, unless she's medicated, she just sounds like an attention seeking pooner that thinks her train of thought is something magical like fuckin' DID Tumblr retards.
 
I don't think she's schizophrenic, unless she's medicated, she just sounds like an attention seeking pooner that thinks her train of thought is something magical like fuckin' DID Tumblr retards.
Yeah you're likely right, schizophrenia is way more debilitating, there'd likely be other signs.
Likely more self hating Pooner shit, just unfortunate the person she went to to talk about how she got the standard "young girl in Hellywierd" treatment decide to feed into her delusions and encourage them.
She's also always been a huge attention seeker, interesting how she decided to troon out right when it was getting the most media attention.
 
I don't know about autistic but she's probably literally schizophrenic, in her biography she said she hears voices telling her to cut herself and that she's an abomination.
That's paranoid schizophrenia.
if that’s her true experience and not dramatized, that can happen in depression, it’s not exceedingly rare for depression to develop psychotic features. thinking that she’s a guy could easily be a psychotic delusion as part of a depressive state too.
 
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