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Ever saw that one Duran Duran cover and thought "Man, if only there was an animated series based on that aesthetic"?
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I'm 6 episodes in. It's basically really absurdist everyone is fucking retarded comedy but they're all taking it very seriously(besides the will forte character who is coincidentally my least favorite) which I appreciate. It's 20 minutes of pure idioicy wrapped up in a really neat artstyle.
 
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𖦹Junkpop𖦹 said:
i've seen clips of this show floating around and the animation is a bunch of shit tweening. Part of the appeal of cuphead was the hand drawn animation and they butchered it so it's mid.
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That game kicks my ass so fucking hard any time I play it that I feel like Dean Takahashi.
 
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Cats Don’t Dance is finally getting a Blu-ray release Sept 26th.
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BiggestKai said:
Ever saw that one Duran Duran cover and thought "Man, if only there was an animated series based on that aesthetic"?
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I'm 6 episodes in. It's basically really absurdist everyone is fucking retarded comedy but they're all taking it very seriously(besides the will forte character who is coincidentally my least favorite) which I appreciate. It's 20 minutes of pure idioicy wrapped up in a really neat artstyle.
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I really, really liked that show (but I love dumb comedy) but you can tell they were trying to be Archer without that extra spice that made Archer really good in the first few seasons. They couldn't quit get that Archer works since while the characters are asshole screw up they are competent asshole screw ups.
 
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KingLiberty76 said:
Belos did nothing wrong, he was 100% correct to try to get rid of the witches
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I think it's because it'd been a while since I watched the preceding seasons but, much like the end of She-Ra, I really struggled to find anything admirable about cold-bloodedly murdering someone who's helpless. In a children's series. To me it feels a lot like trying to make such behaviour palatable to children which is highly uncomfortable.
 
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A Grey Cat said:
Well like I said Warren Ellis, who is a legit good writer. (usuall
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Oh yeah, Ellis such a good writer. He has characters say 'fuck' ten times per line and has interesting ideas like... What if the Christians were... EVIL!? Christians bad, but niggers and dykes good, and Muslims too!

Castlevania on Netflix was the epitome of edgy Ellis shit writing. Horrible dialogue, nonsensical story with edgy shit for the sake of edgy shit, Christians being more evil and less sympathetic than Dracula of all fucking people, and they had Alucard getting fucked in the ass. The show was carried entirely by pretty animation and fun fights. The final season is the best one because it is the one with the most combat and the least talking.
Morethanabitfoolish said:
I think it's because it'd been a while since I watched the preceding seasons but, much like the end of She-Ra, I really struggled to find anything admirable about cold-bloodedly murdering someone who's helpless. In a children's series. To me it feels a lot like trying to make such behaviour palatable to children which is highly uncomfortable.
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It felt like an embittered feminist take that at shows like Steven Universe where the bad guys are always saved or forgiven at the end.

I don't mind that the villain died or anything but it felt like a death aimed at a villain about 10 times as evil. Maybe if Belos had been the actual villain of the final 3 episodes and not a literal toddler it would have played better.
 
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Mega Black said:
Oh yeah, Ellis such a good writer. He has characters say 'fuck' ten times per line and has interesting ideas like... What if the Christians were... EVIL!? Christians bad, but niggers and dykes good, and Muslims too!

Castlevania on Netflix was the epitome of edgy Ellis shit writing. Horrible dialogue, nonsensical story with edgy shit for the sake of edgy shit, Christians being more evil and less sympathetic than Dracula of all fucking people, and they had Alucard getting fucked in the ass. The show was carried entirely by pretty animation and fun fights. The final season is the best one because it is the one with the most combat and the least talking
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Ellis has done some good stuff even if, as you rightly say, his main talking points these days are mainstream. He was doing that shit a couple of decades ago when it was much less popular so I give him a slight pass.
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It felt like an embittered feminist take that at shows like Steven Universe where the bad guys are always saved or forgiven at the end.

I don't mind that the villain died or anything but it felt like a death aimed at a villain about 10 times as evil. Maybe if Belos had been the actual villain of the final 3 episodes and not a literal toddler it would have played better.
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Ironically I suspect if Steven Universe had done the same the fact that the bad guys were all female means it would have been received much less well.

Agreed. While the toddler was largely done as the villain by the end I think they needed something much larger scope than him. Honestly in the same situation I'd have used something bigger in significance and had Belos go out as a dick but as someone who stuck to his core goals till the end. It felt pretty cheap. While I'd bet the creative team will blame ending early for how shitty it was that felt like the ending they always wanted.
 
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Coolio55 said:
To be honest they were all kind-of horrible but I'm not sure if that was intentional or not.
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I’d say so. At least Ramona and Scott specifically, since the whole point was then realize KF it and working to be better by the end.

And everyone around that age are kinda shitty people anyway. Scott just gets noticed more since he was the protagonist.
 
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Shidoen said:
Finally, I always wanted to see that movie animated but the live action was decent enough. However the dress up that women did after that annoyed me.
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The main thing about this show that I’m looking forward to is seeing the stuff the movie had to change or omit, specifically the climax.
 
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Mega Black said:
Oh yeah, Ellis such a good writer. He has characters say 'fuck' ten times per line and has interesting ideas like... What if the Christians were... EVIL!? Christians bad, but niggers and dykes good, and Muslims too!

Castlevania on Netflix was the epitome of edgy Ellis shit writing. Horrible dialogue, nonsensical story with edgy shit for the sake of edgy shit, Christians being more evil and less sympathetic than Dracula of all fucking people, and they had Alucard getting fucked in the ass. The show was carried entirely by pretty animation and fun fights. The final season is the best one because it is the one with the most combat and the least talking.

It felt like an embittered feminist take that at shows like Steven Universe where the bad guys are always saved or forgiven at the end.

I don't mind that the villain died or anything but it felt like a death aimed at a villain about 10 times as evil. Maybe if Belos had been the actual villain of the final 3 episodes and not a literal toddler it would have played better.
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Just from what I've seen from clips, the writing for Castlevania seems like there are some good directions, but there are a number of issues I noticed. First Dracula's wife, Lisa, is portrayed as what many would consider to be a "good person", but she knowingly married Dracula, and at the end of the series she mentions the possibility of Dracula yelling at Satan to get off his throne in Hell, so it doesn't seem like she has illusions about him. The fact that Dracula made a large scene after Lisa died also causes issues about sympathy from the townspeople. Even if they thought Lisa was innocent before, wouldn't they have serious reason to believe she was a witch after a giant flaming head appeared claiming she was the wife of Dracula, King of Vampires, after her death? For that matter, wouldn't the bishop even have reason to believe that he accidently caught a real witch after that despite the blue-eyed demon later claiming that he's lying when he told him she was a witch? There is also the matter of Isaac slaughtering the people of a town who didn't just let him pass through when he was travelling with a pack of demons citing their "rudeness" as his reason, although his character may actually be meant to be childish.
 
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Oh yeah, Ellis such a good writer. He has characters say 'fuck' ten times per line and has interesting ideas like... What if the Christians were... EVIL!? Christians bad, but niggers and dykes good, and Muslims too! Transmetropolitan, and the first half of the authority. (prior to Mark Millar taking over) This may go more into comics sperging than animation but in the early days when guys like Ellis, Ennis, Millar, and so on were either on leashes that kept from going full edgelord or weren't full on edgelords for the sake of edge themselves. They were definitely an improvement over the cyber forces, Youngbloods, and the other crap comics did pre 95/97. The problem is they all got so far up their heads with how new and hip edge for the sake of edge got that it eventually lead to things like Netflixs castlevania, the boys diabolic, and superman red son (the dc animated version)
 
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