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[Xarpho's Return]

/r/fuckcars user is forced to go on a family roadtrip:

I honestly think this guy never has driven himself.
- You can glance away for a few seconds or take a break, and unless you have severe ADD or some sort of eye/brain condition it's not hard. No one complains "two hours of looking at a screen"
- Once you get over your fears you can start to enjoy the world around you.
- So you'd rather outsource care to someone else? Wow, what a caring parent.
- And yet, they claim to "enjoy the scenery" on some 80+ mph high-speed rail system...
- The joy of driving is that there are an endless number of restaurants to stop anywhere, cheap or expensive. You don't have to get the same fast food. Of course McDonald's, Subway, and the like are ubiquitous, but most people have cellphones, and you can find a real, sit-down place that probably has regional cuisine and better food for a comparable price. Besides, someone who will happily eat the same reheated, overpriced dishes served in a train has no real business criticizing American fast food anyway.
- So, it's bad that it's too difficult to find a parking spot...
- ...yet parking spots are too cheap?

 

[Lobster Cult High Priest]

- So, it's bad that it's too difficult to find a parking spot...

That was the best part of their post. Spending an extra 5-10 minutes to find parking being a huge waste of time. Yet the 15-30 minutes spent waiting around the bus stop or the train station is totally not wasted time.

 

[Big Budoo Troy]

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These prove even beyond the other hundred pages of nonsense why Reddit is the internet equivalent of a brain parasite. OF COURSE the fuckcars insects have an unironic "commie" user tag, while our boy sven ($5 says based on that username and tag he's a fat american larping as a Dane) admits to being terrified of having to drive a car in an urban environment where the slightest ounce of concentration is required, then accuses somebody else of having an under-developed brain in the same breath without a shred of irony.

Sven has also apparently proved horseshoe theory is not only correct but propagated by BIG CAR! I'm sick of sending billions of tax dollars to the Ukraine, can somebody give me a recommendation on which of the RAM and Silverado is slightly less of a piece of shit?

Side note, what's the obsession these hivedwellers have with jaywalking? It's not a thing where I live, but elsewhere in the country it is illegal to cross a road within 20 metres of an actual crossing without using it. Is jaywalking in the USA similar or does it apply to crossing the road in general? Either way it's not enforceable without mass surveillance, you'd have to be an actual retard to get caught by doing it in front of a cop car or something when its a widely-recognised illegal act, so not sure why they complain about it so frequently. Telling people "don't run in front of traffic when there's a set of traffic lights with a pedestrian crossing 30 seconds away" seems pretty reasonable to me, but I imagine the bugmen blame 100% of road accidents on drivers. I also honestly believe half of them would be too scared to jaywalk if it wasn't illegal anyway, since they're all terrified of cars and refuse to ride bicycles unless they can do so in a specially-marked bike lane, they'd still just form ant-lines to the pedestrian crossings.

 

[WelperHelper99]

The GMC Yukon Denali and GMT800 family of GM SUVs do that real well too for a close to 20 year old truck. These seats look so inviting and plush compared to that lobotomy chair that is the train business class. Picture shamelessly taken from Cars and Bids auction site.

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Normally not a GM guy (have a few stories), but damn, that looks comfy. That said, when I drove my buddy's Chevy Silverado once, I think a 2020 or something like that, the thing made you feel like you were Iron Man with all the screens and cameras in it.

Why yes I do hate bikes, public transport, the speed limit, I do think Climate change and covid is fake, and I do think Trump is god. And before you ask I like my V8.
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When I get a truck, probably a old Ford because I like me my Fords (Toyota is also cool but not murican) , it's gonna have a V8, no I don't care about gas prices, not only is it for my welding, but 8 cylinders are a dying breed on the consumer market because of these eco freak faggots.

No they didn’t. CAFE standards are more forgiving for light trucks, not less and there’s no reason why a small truck wouldn’t be able to meet the stricter car fuel economy standards if it was classified as one.

The chicken tax (what you’re actually thinking of and was passed in 1964) taxed foreign made small trucks, but it’s irrelevant because Toyota manufactures the Tacoma and Honda manufactures the Ridgeline in the US. Safety standards are the reason why cars are bigger, not fuel economy or tariffs.

The Subaru Brat/Baja were small pickups sold in the US post-chicken tax. Today, in that class, you can buy a Ford Maverick or Hyundai Santa-Cruz. Small trucks just aren’t very popular.

If you want a really small truck for off-road/low-speed use, you can buy a UTV/side-by-side, which is the American version of the Japanese Kei truck.

Personally, for a small truck, I want a Maverick. I've seen those bastards drive around Utah, and I'm seeing them at work sites at this point. If not, then a Ridgeline

While they may be less popular than F-150 sized trucks, they're useful, new ones carry four dudes, some equipment in the back, and fairly good mileage, perfectly fine for small projects or of you just want extra cargo space.

 

[Big Budoo Troy]

Why yes I do hate bikes, public transport, the speed limit, I do think Climate change and covid is fake, and I do think Trump is god. And before you ask I like my V8.
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When I get a truck, probably a old Ford because I like me my Fords (Toyota is also cool but not murican) , it's gonna have a V8, no I don't care about gas prices, not only is it for my welding, but 8 cylinders are a dying breed on the consumer market because of these eco freak faggots.

For maximum anti-hivedweller appeal I'd recommend buying the most stereotypical american land yacht out there and modifying it to be front-wheel drive only. Why? So you can put another V8 in the tray to drive the rear wheels of course! Practicality be damned, notjustbikes and his ilk would probably have a stroke seeing a beast like that.

To reach the true pinnacle of "idgaf about your prius faggot" make sure they're diesel V8s, and remove any diesel particulate filters, EGRs, and other bullshit emissions devices (fun fact: DPFs do not reduce emissions at all and are if anything worse than not having one but cyclist losers don't know that so it would make them rage like nothing seen before).

 

[WelperHelper99]

For maximum anti-hivedweller appeal I'd recommend buying the most stereotypical american land yacht out there and modifying it to be front-wheel drive only. Why? So you can put another V8 in the tray to drive the rear wheels of course! Practicality be damned, notjustbikes and his ilk would probably have a stroke seeing a beast like that.

To reach the true pinnacle of "idgaf about your prius faggot" make sure they're diesel V8s, and remove any diesel particulate filters, EGRs, and other bullshit emissions devices (fun fact: DPFs do not reduce emissions at all and are if anything worse than not having one but cyclist losers don't know that so it would make them rage like nothing seen before).

Dude my land yacht would be a old Lincon Navigator, full V8.

Not diesel, but a long monster that goes toe to toe with a Cadillac Escalade. And perfect for when I have the stereotypical Mormon family lol. Can tow like a motherfucker, looks slick, and most of all, built in AMERICA, so that means I'll need to keep at least 5 Colt and Smith&Wesson revolvers in this bastard for maximum anti carjacking defense.

 

[KingLiberty76]

Dude my land yacht would be a old Lincon Navigator, full V8.
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Not diesel, but a long monster that goes toe to toe with a Cadillac Escalade. And perfect for when I have the stereotypical Mormon family lol. Can tow like a motherfucker, looks slick, and most of all, built in AMERICA, so that means I'll need to keep at least 5 Colt and Smith&Wesson revolvers in this bastard for maximum anti carjacking defense.

you can get a F-150 because that pisses them off so much that a truck that big exists.

 

[Car Won't Crank]

When I get a truck, probably a old Ford because I like me my Fords (Toyota is also cool but not murican) , it's gonna have a V8, no I don't care about gas prices, not only is it for my welding, but 8 cylinders are a dying breed on the consumer market because of these eco freak faggots.

The Toyota trucks are actually just as American as the Fords. The Sequoia and Tundra are manufactured in the San Antonio, Texas plant. Tacoma just ended in 2021.

 

[Markass the Worst]

Side note, what's the obsession these hivedwellers have with jaywalking?

It's one of their anachronistic narratives they push to frame cars as invaders. "Streets used to be places for pedestrians, until Big Auto came along and made it literally illegal to walk across the road!" Except no, things like horses existed before the car did and already made it pretty dangerous to just cross the street without at least looking.

 

[Yamamura]

It's one of their anachronistic narratives they push to frame cars as invaders. "Streets used to be places for pedestrians, until Big Auto came along and made it literally illegal to walk across the road!" Except no, things like horses existed before the car did and already made it pretty dangerous to just cross the street without at least looking.

I'm a bit surprised no one has ever brought up railroad tracks before, because you're not exactly permitted to walk on railroad tracks either, but they don't exactly complain about that.

Because one would think they can't wrap their heads around the concept of right of way. The idea that it's more efficient and safe for smaller vehicles to yield to larger ones (i.e it doesn't make sense for trains to yield to cars at railway crossings because trains are harder to start and stop).

Wait til they realize when there are only e-bikes, 4 wheeled e-bikes (cars with a different name) and pedestrians the concept of yielding the road still exists. I would laugh if the people whining about building pedestrian bridges are now suddenly promoting building them because as cyclists it's in their nature to not want to yield to anyone.

 

[teriyakiburns]

It's one of their anachronistic narratives they push to frame cars as invaders. "Streets used to be places for pedestrians, until Big Auto came along and made it literally illegal to walk across the road!" Except no, things like horses existed before the car did and already made it pretty dangerous to just cross the street without at least looking.

The fact that crossing the street in the "wrong" place can get you arrested in many parts of the states will never cease to amaze me, so I can sort of sympathise with them in that regard. We only know about the concept of jaywalking from hollywood movies; it would never even have occurred to us to ban it. (I know it's also illegal in France and Italy, but the French never obey the law anyway, and the Italians never enforce it, so it might as well not be.)

 

[WelperHelper99]

The fact that crossing the street in the "wrong" place can get you arrested in many parts of the states will never cease to amaze me, so I can sort of sympathise with them in that regard. We only know about the concept of jaywalking from hollywood movies; it would never even have occurred to us to ban it. (I know it's also illegal in France and Italy, but the French never obey the law anyway, and the Italians never enforce it, so it might as well not be.)

It depends where you are and how much trouble you caused really. Usually it's tacked onto something else to bulk out a charge. I've never met anyone that's been charged with it. If it's going to happen, you probably caused a wreck.

 

[Flaming Insignias]

The fact that crossing the street in the "wrong" place can get you arrested in many parts of the states will never cease to amaze me, so I can sort of sympathise with them in that regard. We only know about the concept of jaywalking from hollywood movies; it would never even have occurred to us to ban it. (I know it's also illegal in France and Italy, but the French never obey the law anyway, and the Italians never enforce it, so it might as well not be.)

Jaywalking is almost never enforced in the United States either. You'll occasionally see somebody get fined for disrupting traffic, but very few jaywalkers are prosecuted unless they did something that endangered others. I'd also wager it exists as one of those "broken taillight" crimes used more as a justification to detain a suspected criminal with deniability than any sort of active hunt for people not walking directly at crosswalks; the Ferguson shooting nominally started because Darren Wilson confronted Michael Brown for walking in the middle of the street not long after he committed a strong-arm robbery after all.

 

[LaxerBRO]

Pure neuroticism.

Something doesn't sound right...

On point one:

• There is less mental exhaustion driving in rural areas as opposed to urban or suburban areas.
• You can always stop and take a break.

On point two:

• She takes road trips between 11, 16, and 24 hours.
• She doesn't drive or only drives for part of the trip.
• Her portion of driving is probably only for 4.5 hours.

If one has a gluten free breakfast (for the fucked husband) at home, then they can probably go 5.5 to 6 hours before eating again. As such, for an 11 hour road trip they would only need to eat ONCE because they would still eat at the destination with the rail alternative. Hence, for a 16 hour road trip its twice and for 24 hours it's three times as one party is probably asleep.

Regarding a rail alternative, they won't be practical for most of her trips. Assuming an average speed of 50 mph, a restroom break every two hours for 15 minutes, and meal break for an hour:

• An 11 hour trip will be about 430 miles.
• A 16 hour trip will be about 600 miles.
• A 24 hour trip will be about 800 miles.

The optimal distance for rail travel is between 100 to 500 miles, beyond that flying is probably easier and faster. So rail will only be practical on the 11 hour / 430 mile trip.

Even on rail, the food doesn't offer a great deal of variety as opposed to car travel. I have taken the Coast Starlight, Southwest Chief, Empire Builder, and Sunset Limited. On these long distance trains the dining while decent only has about 16 options between an breakfast, lunch, and dinner.

With these considerations, I am skeptical one to two meals on the road is the deal breaker.

^These calculations are assuming a one way journey. With a two way road trip, her objections become more ridiculous.

Next, we need to address the issue of time. As previously stated, all her trips exceed the optimal distance for rail travel. So her salvation won't be found on rail if that's the concern

Finally, is the issue of her not wanting to visit poduck shit holes. Okay, that's fine but why is she calling herself a communist then?

Amtrak is relied upon by many in smaller rural communities. So she doesn't like to be in podunk towns but is fine with possibly riding in a train with them?

Finally, she expresses concerns about her husband but chooses to drink instead of sharing the driving.

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Based on all these factors, I suspect her issues are not with car travel, per se but is reflective of something greater.

Be it a hatered of the working class (while being a communist), being unfulfilled in her relationships, or a chemical dependency issue her issues do not begin with muh cars.

 

[JJLiautaud]

Side note, what's the obsession these hivedwellers have with jaywalking? It's not a thing where I live, but elsewhere in the country it is illegal to cross a road within 20 metres of an actual crossing without using it. Is jaywalking in the USA similar or does it apply to crossing the road in general? Either way it's not enforceable without mass surveillance, you'd have to be an actual retard to get caught by doing it in front of a cop car or something when its a widely-recognised illegal act, so not sure why they complain about it so frequently. Telling people "don't run in front of traffic when there's a set of traffic lights with a pedestrian crossing 30 seconds away" seems pretty reasonable to me, but I imagine the bugmen blame 100% of road accidents on drivers. I also honestly believe half of them would be too scared to jaywalk if it wasn't illegal anyway, since they're all terrified of cars and refuse to ride bicycles unless they can do so in a specially-marked bike lane, they'd still just form ant-lines to the pedestrian crossings

As alway Road Guy Rob (PBUH) has a really nice video on jaywalking in the US.

 

[dustbuster]

also cafe was introduced in 75 get it right

The EPA was ceded the authority by that law (in violation of article 1)
Since then it has been sinching the noose tighter and tighter with the standards.

No they didn’t. CAFE standards are more forgiving for light trucks

The definition of "light truck" (set by the EPA, because fuck the constitution's requirement for CONGRESS to pass laws) excluded compact pickups of the type we used to have in the early 1990's because Clinton, of course.

Obama then applied CAFE to "light trucks" causing professionals who actually need them to do truck things to complain about reduced durability and towing capacity. (To this day any professional who needs to actually use their truck still has an old one (because aluminum beds SUCK ) , the pickup truck version of Cuba's cars)

Biden is now demanding a ridiculous 40 MPG from pickups and SUV's.
It's literally not possible so expect to either see pickups become 100% fake and gay or disappear.

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This is what happens when hive dwellers who think "food comes from the grocery store" start regulating what vehicles farmers and construction workers are supposed to use on the job.

 

[Lobster Cult High Priest]

Finally, she expresses concerns about her husband but chooses to drink instead of sharing the driving.

This is the one based thing from her post. I don't blame her husband for not letting the womenfolk drive on long road trips.

 

[SocialDislocationAuto]

nitrous oxide

Nitrogen Oxides.

 

[Xarpho's Return]

Finally, she expresses concerns about her husband but chooses to drink instead of sharing the driving.

All but eight states prohibit passengers from driving alcohol in the car and there are probably similar laws in Europe.

If you're concerned about drinking DURING a trip, let's not mince words--you are an alcoholic.

 

[Chuck McGill]

It's one of their anachronistic narratives they push to frame cars as invaders. "Streets used to be places for pedestrians, until Big Auto came along and made it literally illegal to walk across the road!" Except no, things like horses existed before the car did and already made it pretty dangerous to just cross the street without at least looking.

I also think it's an element of youthful rebellion having nowhere to go. Fuckcars tends to lean younger, and kids today are being infected with such brainworms as "punch up, not down" and "any unkind behavior is basically bullying and harassment". These kids really want to tweak someone's nose, but they can't just call their friend a faggot without being charged with a hate crime. So they see someone in a car, someone in a nominally more advantageous position from themselves and they see a perfect opportunity to tweak someone's nose and not only get away with it, but they can also farm some of that sweet sweet reddit karma. Seriously, it seems like every time someone brings up jaywalking, there's always an element of "yeah I'm gonna slow you down and there's nothing you can do about it buddy". I've made the joke that urbanists and trannies are the same people before, but it's starting to look closer and closer to accurate.

Sigh. I miss the days when we understood that a teenager bitching about dudes with cars was just jealous that he doesn't have a car himself.