Off-Topic Losing people to transgenderism support thread - Support group for trans widows and other people who lost loved ones to troonism

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Big Miss Steak said:
I had written a few paragraphs about how wrong you were and then saw others were doing it for me.

Both of these links are about hormonal imbalances, as in ongoing health issues, not just the normal menstrual cycle.
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An absolute fuck load of people Do have hormonal imbalances though, and everyone's is slightly different without it being super noticable enough to cause medical concern, but work away in the background of general health.

They are only just in recent years finding out exactly how many women have entire month long negative effects of the menstrual cycle. It's been a handful of years at best.

Hence why TIFs and Tim's have vastly different reactions to each other.

And putting estrogen into a man is unbalanced as it comes.
 
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glass_houses said:
and unfortunately the affirmation model is extremely widespread. Even the 'good' providers I've known have told me that transitioning is a source of joy and freedom etc.
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Psychiatry glows.

During the leadership of General Secretary Leonid Brezhnev, psychiatry was used to disable and remove from society political opponents ("dissidents") who openly expressed beliefs that contradicted the official dogma.[4][5] The term "philosophical intoxication", for instance, was widely applied to the mental disorders diagnosed when people disagreed with the country's Communist leaders and, by referring to the writings of the Founding Fathers of Marxism–Leninism—Karl Marx, Friedrich Engels, and Vladimir Lenin—made them the target of criticism.[6]
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The KGB routinely sent dissenters to psychiatrists for diagnosis, in order to discredit dissidence as the product of unhealthy minds and to avoid the embarrassment caused by public trials.[13] Highly classified government documents that became available after the dissolution of the Soviet Union confirm that the authorities consciously used psychiatry as a tool to suppress dissent.[14]
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Psychiatrist enforce party line, on muslim countries they do the same for islam, on liberal countries they do it for globohomo. Mental Health is always politically compromised
 
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LinkinParkxNaruto[AMV] said:
Psychiatry glows.





Psychiatrist enforce party line, on muslim countries they do the same for islam, on liberal countries they do it for globohomo. Mental Health is always politically compromised
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Ironically troons would actually love to be locked in a psychiatric hospital.
They don't have to make any choices, cook, work, clean-
and for the porn sick 99. 8% of them, it would be like some 24/7 fetish larp.
 
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AfghanBlue said:
An absolute fuck load of people Do have hormonal imbalances though, and everyone's is slightly different without it being super noticable enough to cause medical concern, but work away in the background of general health.

They are only just in recent years finding out exactly how many women have entries month long negative effects of the menstrual cycle. It's been a handful of years at best.

Hence why TIFs and Tim's have vastly different reactions to each other.

And putting estrogen into a man is unbalanced as it comes.
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Saying that estrogen can be a problem when you have health issues that are throwing all your hormones out of whack, or are a tranny on hormones, is very different from saying estrogen is a bad mood hormone.

Normal, healthy women aren't having "months long negative effects" from menstruation. What's more likely is hormonal birth control is fucking women up.
 
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Big Miss Steak said:
Saying that estrogen can be a problem when you have health issues that are throwing all your hormones out of whack, or are a tranny on hormones, is very different from saying estrogen is a bad mood hormone.

Normal, healthy women aren't having "months long negative effects" from menstruation. What's more likely is hormonal birth control is fucking women up.
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A lot of women just get on with things, and put up with feeling low key shit all of the time. It's often not big enough to do something about, and lol do try to get something done about it on the NHS, particularly if you happen to have a male gp.
Like I said, it's very very recent findings and half of it is unstudied. Look how long it took to get an actual full picture of the entire clitoral structure.
Women's health is embarrassingly understudied and this isn't news.

Birth contorll is a fucking meme at this point. Everyone knows it fucks you. Everyone who takes it knows it makes you go mental, and then stop taking it. And the unlucky ones get fatter and spotter too.
I'd say it's more likely that general modern living, shit processed food and high stress levels, fucks with an already delicate system.

Anyway fuck it, thus has been derailing enough.
Someone come and get bakc on track about their TIF sister
 
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Lost a childhood friend to the TQ+ cult. It's like she (TIF) has passed away, that's the only way I can rationalize it to myself. We were inseparable throughout middle and high school. Purely platonic, we didn't date but we might as well have. She was my prom date my senior year. Then she just went off the deep end. Started a relationship with a really great guy whom she treated like shit and leading him on since he was admittedly kind of a nice guy. She came out as trans and that was the straw that broke the camel's back and the relationship dissolved. She bounced from place to place before getting into this efficiency apartment that her parents, who she is estranged from, are paying for. No job, back "in" school for the third time, just freeloading. Literally bragging about being a NEET. Last time we spoke she tried to hit me up for drug money via Venmo and I just had to let her go. I was the last of our childhood friend circle to throw in the towel but I finally just gave up.

It genuinely sucks.
 
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Had an online friend of a several years who is obviously just a lesbian but has been doing the she/they nonbinary BS suddenly announce she's a dude named Malakhai, complete with out-of-nowhere dysphoria and being obsessed with binding. She's been having health problems lately and thinks it's due to the "the stress" of not living as a man. I think it's because she's an obese woman living in a foreign country, so it's going to be doubly hard to get a correct diagnosis of some female reproductive system issue with a language barrier. All I told her was Kai is a clocky name if she cares about passing. I'm already emotionally withdrawing. Kinda sucks, she's cool when she's not being gender obsessed. Was, maybe.
 
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All I told her was Kai is a clocky name if she cares about passing
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Fair observation and it is clocky when you've seen 200 of them on Kiwi Farms but there are, you know, real Kais. Cis Kais. Assigned Kais at birth. The clockiest bit is being a woman.

I'm sure it's been pontificated upon (there's a tranny names thread after all) but what's the psychology of wanting to change your name? Sure, you might have been lumbered with a really shit name, but what if you've got a normal name but don't like it? How many people would just go by their middle name if they could? Are there people out there who wouldn't identify as trans if they just had a "cis" name that they liked? You can almost feel how they pick the "clockier" names, wrapped up in this idealistic mental image of themselves, but it's never quite tangible.
 
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2SLGBQTIA+ 2 Furious said:
Fair observation and it is clocky when you've seen 200 of them on Kiwi Farms but there are, you know, real Kais. Cis Kais. Assigned Kais at birth. The clockiest bit is being a woman.

I'm sure it's been pontificated upon (there's a tranny names thread after all) but what's the psychology of wanting to change your name? Sure, you might have been lumbered with a really shit name, but what if you've got a normal name but don't like it? How many people would just go by their middle name if they could? Are there people out there who wouldn't identify as trans if they just had a "cis" name that they liked? You can almost feel how they pick the "clockier" names, wrapped up in this idealistic mental image of themselves, but it's never quite tangible.
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What gets me is the incongruous names they pick. She's not the right age to be a Kai, she's right age to have a baby named Kai. So many of the FTMs pick trendy baby names and then cry when they get clocked as a chubby 5'2" "man" named Ollie. I don't know if they're not aware they're doing it, or if it's some fucked up rebirth aspect.
 
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LinkinParkxNaruto[AMV] said:
Psychiatry glows.
Psychiatrist enforce party line, on muslim countries they do the same for islam, on liberal countries they do it for globohomo. Mental Health is always politically compromised
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And let's not forget drapetomania, how slaveholders rationalised how their "uplifted" plantation slaves could somehow be insane enough to run away.
 
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Littlest Pooner said:
I generally try to stay out of this thread because it's too heart wrenching, but my fellow Kiwis who have lost somebody close to them and it's affecting you, it may be worth some sort of grief(?) counselling related to losing loved ones to a cult because this shit seems so difficult to deal with; I can't imagine what you must be going through, especially with the knowledge of the type of shit that REALLY goes on within Transgenderism. It frightens me to think someone I love (especially a spouse, child or parent) would lose themselves to this. I really hope your loved ones see the truth in what they are doing to themselves and the people who care about them to get you all out of the nightmare. Sending true and honest thots and prayers. :heart-full:
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Speaking as someone who has completely desisted: I used to think calling it a cult was excessive. Now, I can't think of a better descriptor. It took me about 8 years - yes, that long - to realise that I was a teenager getting the wrong answers for very reasonable questions when you're at the age of finding your own identity and explaining why you're not quite like other kids your age. Even then I ended up being alike to r/detrans loons that hang onto the "queer identity" or, rightfully, just a woman with extra steps. It took me 10-11 years to fully,  thoroughly dissolve any amicable view towards modern troondom. And guess what also takes 10-11 years on average to escape? A damn cult.

I can personally tell you that I did not care that my loved ones felt grief when I was insistent of my identity then. All I could think about was how bitter and backwards they are, and how if they've loved me they would accept me the way I am. There is not a smidge of guilt that I felt seeing them cry and try to figure out what to do from here. Literally seeing them in tears just made me angry because it felt like they were playing crocodile. I find it a miracle every day that they still love me despite the horrors I must have put them through - and the only bit of physical transitioning I did was cut my hair. Thank fuck.

Vouching for what Littlest Pooner said - if you're seeking some sort of counselling, see one that caters to cults.  Do not mention trannydom unless they happen to be a based kiwi. People brainwashed into it cannot see why what seems to be literal human rights to mutilate themselves is unethical. I hope the kiwis whose loved ones sucked into the cult will have their loved ones change their mind one day -- or at least, I hope you find some peace. Just know that it wasn't your fault.
 
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fenny said:
What gets me is the incongruous names they pick. She's not the right age to be a Kai, she's right age to have a baby named Kai. So many of the FTMs pick trendy baby names and then cry when they get clocked as a chubby 5'2" "man" named Ollie. I don't know if they're not aware they're doing it, or if it's some fucked up rebirth aspect.
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It's a bizarre type of sublimation. They post birth announcements for their arm dicks ("the little guy arrived yesterday at 2 pm and is 9 inches long and 12 inches around, he and mom are resting comfortably!") They go through trans related rituals instead of bridal and maternity rituals. They have been told since they were barely dried off from the womb, by their bitter career woman moms, that only dumb bimbo Staceys dream of being a bride and a mom. That being those things means a death of the self. So they sublimate it into this crap.
 
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