Unpopular views about music

[Ogre Magi]

Actually yeah. I suppose the Weeknd counts, but he's more of the R&B crowd which does stray into pop music sometimes. Any genre of music can become pop(ular) music if it is played enough, but there's been a serious crash in the quality of music that is actually designed to be pop music.

Everything has just become so fake in pop music that the artistry is practically gone. The kind of music I make has its roots in 80s pop, funk, and R&B, and there were some really creative people producing the music for artists during that time. One of the guys who was influencial in producing Michael Jackson's hits now makes videos going into how certain sounds were made and it's so very facinating to me.

Nowadays it all sounds so generic...

 

[The Heartthrob]

I'm not sure how popular or unpopular it is, but it always bugs me how music fans want to gatekeep shit via trades and things of that nature. You see it a lot on P2P like soulseek or old forums and torrent trackers. If your goal when buying stuff is to share it publicly but then curate who has access to it, why bother pirating at all? It strikes me as some reddit janny power trip shit or imitating the same garbage that the labels do that pushes people to pirate in the first place.

 

[Matt Damon]

Steely Dan has never really done it for me. I don't dislike their music, but I don't find much about it that stands out among the ten bajillion other '70s bands.

 

[George Floyd Sneed]

Probably a bunch of cold takes, but Nirvana didn't kill "metal". The hideous shit that they claim Nirvana killed wasn't even metal in the first place. It was LA buttrock with lyrics as vapid as modern rap, and it was oversaturated shit that was collapsing anyway. Nirvana was far more metal than that shit.

Yeah the revisionism that took place with grunge was always interesting. Hair metal was dead by then and the exception was Use Your Illusion which sold a shit ton despite the genre supposedly being dead. A lot of alternative rock like REM was going multi platinum in the late 1980s and by then people were tired of shit like LA Gunz, which sold like shit. You look at the Billboard charts in that time and hair metal was here and there, mostly a couple bands and that was it; conversely grunge flooded the market in the 90s and by 1994 people were tired of that, which is why bands like Green Day (a different set of fags) were getting more popular. If Kurt hadn’t suckstarted a gun, they would’ve been playing the county fair circuit by the late 90s; nothing against that but grunge’s time was done. It lasted even shorter than the hair metal they supposedly despised.

Grunge was more of a favorite with music critics, who were personally invested in making it seem like it was this major force in the music industry when shit like REM already paved the runway. The problem was that they hated hair metal because they were unabashedly masculine, even as they dressed like faggots. It was the music their bullies who beat them up and stole their girlfriends listened to. Fags like Kurt Cobain were feminists and grunge was supposed to resemble progress. So they actively fought for grunge and against hair metal. So that’s why there’s this total rewrite of the music scene in the late 1980s and early 1990s. Now it’s considered canon and every Generation X faggot follows along.

 

[Ughubughughughughughghlug]

I've been listening to a shit ton of 1970s muzak lately (for reasons) and this shit is great.

I have a soft spot for 2000s' country because I grew up on it. I can't listen to it a lot but I still think it's fun. It really is one of those genres you have to listen to in a certain setting like a barbeque, camping or hanging out with family. The only thing that kills country is the forced vocal twang most of the time.

I have to hate modern country just because it popularized the Nashville accent (that fake "Southern" accent that only exists in the imagination).

Bob Dylan, and poet-songwriters in general, are overrated. Take these lyrics for example:

You go out when the world is coming in,
If not but for the ice which is ever growing thin,
Below our feet and in the thoughts on which you dwell,
The jester speaks but never does he tell.

Now, that's just some meaningless bollocks that I've made up but if Bob Dylan had written it everyone would be lauding it at genius because he crafted the ocean-deep poet image for himself. If Noel Gallgher wrote it, everyone would rightly dismiss it as bollocks.

If lyrics and words turn you on, read some Nabokov or Shakespeare or Milton or something.

I think Elton John is a fine "singer-songwriter" who sang about things that made sense.
I've had this problem with some indie songs lately. I've been canvassing music looking for songs related to certain subject matter, and whenever an indie song pops up it will just be raving nonsense.

 

[Seventh Star]

Argentine Rock of any flavor or type is garbage and peaked in the 60s. Most of it is either:

• A bunch of hippie faggots playing acoustic guitars and calling themselves rock.
• An album full of songs about getting pussy or drinking or social issues over the same chord/key progression.
• Pretentious garbage which tries too hard to be proggy but sounds disjointed.
• Light ass hard rock with an abuse of brass, especially trumpets.

And fuck the singers, they all sound the same. Fuck national thrash, hard rock, metal, or whatever pussies since the 90s claim is "rock".

 

[Raging Capybara]

Argentine Rock of any flavor or type is garbage

Bubu is wonderful.

 

[AnOminous]

I think Elton John is a fine "singer-songwriter" who sang about things that made sense.

Most of his songs were written by Bernie Taupin.

 

[Ughubughughughughughghlug]

Most of his songs were written by Bernie Taupin.

Maybe I got his genre wrong.

 

[AnOminous]

Maybe I got his genre wrong.

When I was a teenager, Goodbye Yellow Brick Road was one of my favorite albums, both because it was nice to listen to and because it was a double album so I could crush up my weed and then roll out the seeds in the crease between the album folds.

 

[Art Corvalay]

Yeah the revisionism that took place with grunge was always interesting. Hair metal was dead by then and the exception was Use Your Illusion which sold a shit ton despite the genre supposedly being dead. A lot of alternative rock like REM was going multi platinum in the late 1980s and by then people were tired of shit like LA Gunz, which sold like shit. You look at the Billboard charts in that time and hair metal was here and there, mostly a couple bands and that was it; conversely grunge flooded the market in the 90s and by 1994 people were tired of that, which is why bands like Green Day (a different set of fags) were getting more popular. If Kurt hadn’t suckstarted a gun, they would’ve been playing the county fair circuit by the late 90s; nothing against that but grunge’s time was done. It lasted even shorter than the hair metal they supposedly despised.

Grunge was more of a favorite with music critics, who were personally invested in making it seem like it was this major force in the music industry when shit like REM already paved the runway. The problem was that they hated hair metal because they were unabashedly masculine, even as they dressed like faggots. It was the music their bullies who beat them up and stole their girlfriends listened to. Fags like Kurt Cobain were feminists and grunge was supposed to resemble progress. So they actively fought for grunge and against hair metal. So that’s why there’s this total rewrite of the music scene in the late 1980s and early 1990s. Now it’s considered canon and every Generation X faggot follows along.

To add to what you said, Nirvana wasnt even the first "grunge" (a term I hate, since it's not really a genre at all) band to reach the mainstream. Alice in Chains and Soundgarden were already getting regular play on MTV over a year before Nirvana pinched out Nevermind and "Smells Like Teen Spirit".

 

[George Floyd Sneed]

To add to what you said, Nirvana wasnt even the first "grunge" (a term I hate, since it's not really a genre at all) band to reach the mainstream. Alice in Chains and Soundgarden were already getting regular play on MTV over a year before Nirvana pinched out Nevermind and "Smells Like Teen Spirit".

Not to put too fine of a point on it, Pearl Jam’s Ten was released a month before Nevermind and their first single, Alive, came out three months ahead of Smells Like Teen Spirit and hit #8 on the charts which meant it got decent airplay. It’s really odd how they completely rewrote that whole time period. They really needed to pretend some faggot who got trolled by riot grrl bands singlehandedly saved us from toxic masculinity and Reaganomics.

 

[AnOminous]

Not to put too fine of a point on it, Pearl Jam’s Ten was released a month before Nevermind and their first single, Alive, came out three months ahead of Smells Like Teen Spirit and hit #8 on the charts which meant it got decent airplay. It’s really odd how they completely rewrote that whole time period. They really needed to pretend some faggot who got trolled by riot grrl bands singlehandedly saved us from toxic masculinity and Reaganomics.

I like a fair amount of Nirvana but you know damn well Kurt would have trooned at some point if he'd lived until >current year.

 

[glue eater]

I think Black Metal microgenres like DSBM, Blackened Crust and Black Noise aren't bad, I actually enjoy them. All my friends are hardcore purists so this is close to heresy, they don't even like modern Goatmoon because of folk influence. All the Finnish Black Metal events are run by purists, Apocalyptic Rites et al are two days of pure raw black metal. Like damn dude, a little variety is the spice of life. Rotten tomato throwing may now commence.

 

[AnOminous]

All the Finnish Black Metal events are run by purists, Apocalyptic Rites et al are two days of pure raw black metal. Like damn dude, a little variety is the spice of life. Rotten tomato throwing may now commence.

Genre purists are among the most insufferable idiots and black metal purists among of the worst of genre purists.

 

[Onni Kalsarikännit]

All my friends are hardcore purists so this is close to heresy, they don't even like modern Goatmoon because of folk influence.

But the Manowar-esque Heavy Metal influence throughout Goatmoon's discography is ok for your friends?

You need better friends, fren.

 

[glue eater]

But the Manowar-esque Heavy Metal influence throughout Goatmoon's discography is ok for your friends?

You need better friends, fren.

How it feels like being the only guy who likes Goatmoon's entire discography.

And the most hardcore purist cultists think the project is ruined if the cover doesn't have a swastika "to keep away the posers". I mean I am not opposed to NSBM, I like it, but I also like wide variety of BM themes, from cosmic terror, to depression, satanism, winter and desolation and what have you.

That said, it's not much of a handicap for the purists, Finland is absolutely bursting at seams with NSBM bands, every year there's like dozen more.

 

[Raging Capybara]

What about making friends with people who are not white trash inbred retards?

 

[Lone Wandering Courier]

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I think Black Metal microgenres like DSBM, Blackened Crust and Black Noise aren't bad, I actually enjoy them. All my friends are hardcore purists so this is close to heresy, they don't even like modern Goatmoon because of folk influence. All the Finnish Black Metal events are run by purists, Apocalyptic Rites et al are two days of pure raw black metal. Like damn dude, a little variety is the spice of life. Rotten tomato throwing may now commence.

I don't mind the idea of blackened crust (I think Darkthrone's The Cult Is Alive is a neat album), but I'm sure a lot of it is commie trash. I personally don't get being a genre purist as some of the my favorite BM albums have folk influences.

 

[glue eater]

I don't mind the idea of blackened crust (I think Darkthrone's The Cult Is Alive is a neat album), but I'm sure a lot of it is commie trash. I personally don't get being a genre purist as some of the my favorite BM albums have folk influences.

Yeah I mean I get the hate Blackened Crust gets, I could name probably 30 bands that are out and out communists, Larva Ov Cum posted some "protect trans people" tier cringe on their social media. A lot of the blackened crust bands have this "Anti-NSBM" shtick, as if Nazis hijacked the genre and some of the founders werent pure nazi like Varg. Besides, the Anti-NSBM shit is so marginal, the most underground NSBM split gets 100 times more attention than the Neckbeard Deathcamp. It's sad, really.

But non-political Blackened Crust like Darkthrone is still enjoyable.

Sort of unrelated, but I have a jacket that belonged to a Anarchist/BM Crust. Sort of war trophy, I guess you could call it.