Fallout 4 mod commissioned by American Krogan - Grounded Commonwealth.

[xXx: State of the Union]

Look, I hate woke shit being pushed on me

But going the complete other direction is just as cringe.

 

[Activelo]

This and turning the Assaultrons into Assaultroons do kinda baffle me, i understand removing women from the minutemen to a degree, but changing the Machinist seems like a totally unnecessary change that was more work than just making her white. Changes like that and also the Doctor Li(ee) stuff feel like it was changes done just for the sake of removing non-whites. There would still be immigrants and migrants, plenty given the state of the world even decades before 2077, so turning certain characters White just goes to make the mod more controversial for no real reason. I could also nit pick about how removing the women from the Brotherhood (at least to a major degree) does also seem like a massive case of change for the sake of change.

Now the Assaultron thing is definitely a matter of taste, but i think turning them into men just makes them generic robots, at least them being female made them pretty unique.

He said in his rationale that the mod isn't really meant to be lore-accurate. I think someone mentioned in the comments that it changed a black character who showed up in Fallout 3.

Fallout takes place in an alternative timeline that diverges in 1945. The universe is based on a tongue-in-cheek caricature of a hyper-capitalist, anti-communist White America that never moved on culturally or politically. This was a traditionalist period when modern progressive values of diversity and inclusion were not embraced. Fallout’s America would look and behave very differently from ours.

I am aware that lore-wise there might have been mass-immigration from around the world, but the rationale behind it is anything but convincing considering the subject material, thus the mod. It's not meant to be "lore-accurate" as that's exactly what I've taken issue with in suspending disbelief.

1. There would not have been a 1964 Civil Rights Act in Fallout, and segregation would’ve continued. Note here that in our timeline Boston public schools had to be forcefully desegregated with the infamous busing programs in the mid 1970s, and that White residents were not happy about it. Curiously, the Fallout series actually uses various analogues and proxies to discuss segregation. The most obvious one is Ghouls. Elements of the topic can be seen in Fallout 1’s Necropolis and Fallout 3’s The Underworld and the Tenpenny Tower quest line. New Vegas’ quest “Come Fly With Me” has the player help a band of Ghouls fly away in rocket ships to escape prejudice. Even Fallout 4 broaches the topic with Diamond City’s exile of Ghouls, and the Ghoul settlement “The Slog” which was formed in response. Fallout 4 also repeatedly treats Synths as proxies for African Americans during Slavery. This is where the Railroad faction gets their name, from the real-life Underground Railroad during slavery.

2. There would not have been a 1965 Hart Celler Act that allowed for demographic change. America was around 90% White during the 1940s, and this likely would not have changed in the Fallout universe. Most non-White Americans were Blacks who lived in the South. Very few of them lived in New England. Boston proper had a very small population of them, but most people in the city would’ve died following a societal collapse. If any African Americans survived and were somehow accepted into a White community outside the city, there simply wouldn’t have been enough of them to maintain a genetic phenotype in the region after 200 years. Consider the graphs below and how the demographics of Boston in 1945 would’ve continued in Fallout’s timeline up to 2077. This ties into the general issue of Fallout 4 having tons of very distinct ethnicities in relatively confined spaces after 200 plus years of supposed intermixing. People like Doctor Forsythe, Arturo Rodriguez or the Bobrovs simply wouldn’t exist as distinct ethnicities.

3. There would not have been a second-wave feminist movement, much less a third and a fourth. The 1950s were a time of traditional sexual norms. Even if there was a feminist movement, sexual equality is a luxury belief system that can’t survive a post industrial collapse. After the bombs fell, most women would not have opted to become raiders or engage in active combat roles. Those who did likely would not have had children and whatever abilities or predispositions that allowed for this behavior would’ve been rapidly selected against.

4. International travel would’ve ceased after the Great War in 2077. No one would be speaking with foreign accents in Boston 200 years later. Thus characters like the Bobrov brothers are wildly out of place. Traversing the Atlantic ocean after an industrial collapse wouldn’t be impossible, but it would be exceedingly unlikely. Moreover, there isn’t even an attempt to explain how or why they came to Boston. The Fallout ambiance is one of relative geographic isolation, because travel is difficult and dangerous.

 

[Rick The Stick]

F4 has a lot of issues, but woke shit and nigger fetishism isn't really one of them.

 

[Serbian Peacekeepers]

He said in his rationale that the mod isn't really meant to be lore-accurate. I think someone mentioned in the comments that it changed a black character who showed up in Fallout 3.

Fair Enough, Though the more i read the more i feel like this mod isn't meant to "fix" anything and is more a attempt to stir up shit, but its whatever, hope it stays up on ModDB.

 

[Ser Prize]

This and turning the Assaultrons into Assaultroons do kinda baffle me, i understand removing women from the minutemen to a degree, but changing the Machinist seems like a totally unnecessary change that was more work than just making her white. Changes like that and also the Doctor Li(ee) stuff feel like it was changes done just for the sake of removing non-whites. There would still be immigrants and migrants, plenty given the state of the world even decades before 2077, so turning certain characters White just goes to make the mod more controversial for no real reason. I could also nit pick about how removing the women from the Brotherhood (at least to a major degree) does also seem like a massive case of change for the sake of change.

Now the Assaultron thing is definitely a matter of taste, but i think turning them into men just makes them generic robots, at least them being female made them pretty unique.

Hope the assaultron and machinist changes can be toggled.

 

[Serbian Peacekeepers]

Hope the assaultron and machinist changes can be toggled.

I doubt it, you'd probably either need to ask for a submod that changes them back to vanilla or make your own.

 

[topsykrets]

lol imagine actually playing fallout 4

 

[Dave.]

Meh, do whatever you want with Fallout 4. I don't believe in regulation of artistic creativity or modification of private property as long as it's not for the purposes of causing physical harm (big emphasis on the word "physical"). I disagree with his interpretation of the fallout universe, but then again he does say it's not supposed to be an accurate representation anyway.

With that said, websites and governments need to stop fucking with this shit and censoring this.

 

[Night Crawler]

Just go play Fallout 1 and 2. They are better Fallout games. I guess you can play New Vegas as well. I never bothered with the Bethesda games much nor with New Vegas. But the autistic sperg American Krogan would have an issue with original Fallout games because they also would depict women in certain power positions. You could find females in the bands of raiders.

Krogan is an autistic sperg retard. He shouldn't be listened to or taken seriously. The first few videos I watched back when he was still on YouTube were ok and he made some good points. But even a broken clock is right twice a day. But as he kept making videos they were getting more retarded as time went on and he started desperately grasping for straws. I stopped watching his videos when he made those retarded videos about Rage 2 and RDR2. Rage 2 he did make a few good points. But the RDR2 video was just retarded. Most of the issues he complained about can be explained. If you know anything about American history. But if you just start making a video and talking out of your ass you probably don't.

I wouldn't play any mod he makes. I most certainly wouldn't bother with a mod for Fallout 4 which is considered the worst of those mediocre Bethesda Fallout games.

 

[NPZCC]

I guess you can play New Vegas as well.

 

[whogoesthere]

Fallout 4 doesn't even feel that woke. I mean it has non-whites in it, but so does America. The women shit kinda makes sense as everyone has to do something when almost everyone else is dead. The useless women are dead, as are the useless men.

Maybe AK should get back to making videos instead, the lazy shitebag. (I might try it. I just want a mod that lets me be a complete fucking nightmare for all groups. I dont want to side with any, I want to use my sledgehammer to bring the entire land under my dominion. Fuck your gay fascism and socialism, I want barbarism at its finest)

 

[cybertoaster]

This guy still alive? I remember him from the gamergate era, did a ton of videos but then his autism kicked in and it got too spergy for me.

And this mod is a spergfest, he has a point that after 200 years there would be very little diversity because in a world of isolated settlements and almost no means of long distance travel the population would've homogenized long ago into more or less the same color and culture.

As for the latter this is very important: two centuries are a long fucking time, America today is culturally very different from just 100 years ago. In fallout there is no America anymore, odds are even the english they would speak in this world would be very different to understand for us specially since there's no public education anymore. 4-5 generations ago it wasn't uncommon to find illiterate adults who weren't able to go to school, in the fallout world I take people who can read and write would be as rare as in antiquity when even many royals were illiterate.

There wouldn't be race issues because the concept of race would've disappeared, and social issues like feminism and gay rights would be an afterthought in a world were most people don't even have access to clean water.

 

[Night Crawler]

I read the stuff he posted on Mod DB page and it says he spent money on recording equipment and paying voice actors. Is American Krogan a trust fund baby? A fucking rich kid? Who the fuck would spend money to make a shitty mod for a shitty game? What a retard. lol

Get a fucking life and go outside and touch some grass. Fallout is the worst of the shitty Bethesda Fallout games. It's a mediocre FPS with some light role playing elements.

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If I ever bother with NV I will probably side with the Legion.

Fallout 4 doesn't even feel that woke. I mean it has non-whites in it, but so does America. The women shit kinda makes sense as everyone has to do something when almost everyone else is dead. The useless women are dead, as are the useless men.

Maybe AK should get back to making videos instead, the lazy shitebag. (I might try it. I just want a mod that lets me be a complete fucking nightmare for all groups. I dont want to side with any, I want to use my sledgehammer to bring the entire land under my dominion. Fuck your gay fascism and socialism, I want barbarism at its finest)

The vast majority of people will for for order and stability. No one wants real anarchy. Not even the anarchist faggots which are closeted communists.

This guy still alive? I remember him from the gamergate era, did a ton of videos but then his autism kicked in and it got too spergy for me.

And this mod is a spergfest, he has a point that after 200 years there would be very little diversity because in a world of isolated settlements and almost no means of long distance travel the population would've homogenized long ago into more or less the same color and culture.

As for the latter this is very important: two centuries are a long fucking time, America today is culturally very different from just 100 years ago. In fallout there is no America anymore, odds are even the english they would speak in this world would be very different to understand for us specially since there's no public education anymore. 4-5 generations ago it wasn't uncommon to find illiterate adults who weren't able to go to school, in the fallout world I take people who can read and write would be as rare as in antiquity when even many royals were illiterate.

There wouldn't be race issues because the concept of race would've disappeared, and social issues like feminism and gay rights would be an afterthought in a world were most people don't even have access to clean water.

It's probably because it's a fictional/fantasy representation of a post apocalyptic scenario. IRL most people would be dying miserably from cancer from all the radiation or something else.

This is something that seems to be lost on that retard. None of this shit is real.

 

[xXx: State of the Union]

Just go play Fallout 1 and 2. They are better Fallout games. I guess you can play New Vegas as well

Fake Fallout fan

 

[Snekposter]

I doubt it, you'd probably either need to ask for a submod that changes them back to vanilla or make your own.

Can't you just pop open their entries in the .esp and delete them? That would have the vanilla lines load instead, if you're not running any other mods.

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Ah, another person who doesn't understand what's actually going on. Lanius actually mocks for you being a fucking idiot before you explain that if he takes down the NCR the West will be such a clusterfuck he won't have the manpower to garrison both it and the Legion's eastern territories, and thus the Legion will die a slow death of a thousand cuts to attrition as it marches back and forth in a desperate attempt to keep the peace in both areas.

 

[NPZCC]

Ah, another person who doesn't understand what's actually going on.

 

[Conan]

Played around with this mod yesterday, some first impressions:

The human voice acting is not bad. The AI replacements are OK as well. The new faces of the gender/race swaps feel inline with how other NPCs look.
The mod is an interesting novelty and something new to play around with.
The assaultron change is frankly weird considering I'm 75% certain the assaultron was someone's fetish turned into an enemy type and not someone at Bethesda wanting more female murderbot representation.

 

[Ghost of Wesley Willis]

The changes I do like:

• Making the chapel an actual Christian church
• Changing Dr. Amari and the Bobrovs (wouldn't make sense to have an Indian woman with an accent or two men with thick Russian accents)
• Assaultron changes (makes coomers and troons extra mad)
• Changing the Mariner in Far Harbor
• Changing Arturo to a man with a thick Boston accent
• Marcy no longer being a stuck up bitch who is eternally ungrateful for the entire game

The point being made about how its an alt universe make sense on some things, I genuinely doubt a lot of people would hold many of those pre-war values anymore 2 centuries after a nuclear holocaust. I doubt a group of skezzed up raiders high on jet and psycho are going to really give two asses about traditional norms regarding gender roles. Most remaining pockets of civilization would have a mentality similar to that of the frontier west of the 19th century were everyone had to pitch in and help in some way or another. But this is fallout. The game never really was about realism (NV was only "realistic" in the sense it had much more believable world building, factions, and characters with different motives and interests).

Fallout 4 at this point is treated by the majority of the community as a sandbox to play around with tacticool guns ported from the latest Call of Duty, a porn simulator and screenshotting tool by the coomers, or treating it like The Sims if you're Elianora. People quit trying to fix the RPG mechanics long ago and just focused much more on the combat and base building mechanics, or using it as a framework to make massive mods like F4NV, The Capital Wasteland Project, Fallout Miami, etc.

 

[Rick The Stick]

Fallout 4 doesn't even feel that woke. I mean it has non-whites in it, but so does America. The women shit kinda makes sense as everyone has to do something when almost everyone else is dead. The useless women are dead, as are the useless men.

Maybe AK should get back to making videos instead, the lazy shitebag. (I might try it. I just want a mod that lets me be a complete fucking nightmare for all groups. I dont want to side with any, I want to use my sledgehammer to bring the entire land under my dominion. Fuck your gay fascism and socialism, I want barbarism at its finest)

Can you really be that sort of evil fuckhead in any of the games though? NV might be the closest with the legion or Yes-man endings, but even then you're still not getting that kinda nihilistic "watch the world burn" barbarism feel.

Spoiler: Autism

Honestly 4 felt the easiest to roleplay as that sort of psycho for me. Defrost after watching your spouse get got, and your kid get gone and your British robot house-nigger tells you it's been 2 centuries since you left? Perfect justification to go crazy, join a raider cult, take over a theme park and rape the wastes. Or just give up hope and accept your new life as worthless survivor displaced in time trying to make the best of things. 4, imo, has the most room for roleplay without touching any quests. It's just held back by the voiced protagonist

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[xXx: State of the Union]

Can you really be that sort of evil fuckhead in any of the games though?

Nuking Megaton? Poisoning the water supply?

Doesn't get much more watch the world burn than poisoning the water supply IMO