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Timestamp for the transgender stuff (it also happens to be about a minute before she turns violent)
Oh my god, the first part is like watching cry-typing in real life. Anyway, this reminds me of another case that I'm surprised isn't getting more attention on the farms, Chynna Brown. Chynna "Banko" Brown is was a TiF (and "volunteer organizer", but I seriously doubt she's ever done anything selflessly in her short life) in San Francisco who was caught trying to shoplift candy (a lot of people will call it "food" which is technically accurate, but obviously dishonest), got her ass beat by the security guard and then threatened to stab him. After she got thrown out she lunged at him and he shot her (turns out that she didn't have a knife and was "just" spitting on him).

San Francisco decided that even though she was technically unarmed, the security guard had reasonable fear for his own safety and had acted in self-defense so did not file charges. As you might guess, trans activists were outraged
Another (unfortunately unsurprising) twist is that Black Lives Matter activists are calling for the arrest of the black security guard who defended himself (some black lives matter more than others, I guess).

We talk a lot about TiM violence (as we should), but TiF violence is way funnier because these are tiny women, some of whom are out of their minds of T, who really want to live up to the absolute worst stereotypes of violent men.
Could someone make a thread dedicated to troon arrest footage? I feel like it'd take off even more than these ones.

Eta: fuck it, made the thread. Here https://kiwifarms.pl/threads/vids-for-troon-sperg-outs.170325/
 
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Why does the medical community keeps posting this bullshit?I'm not a biologist by any means but even i know there's more the pregnancy than just putting a uterus in a male's body and it'll work.Even a quote from the article from one of those "leading womb transplant experts" claims "The process is considered high-risk in "cisgender women" due to increased risk of complications." and "Doing this in a transgender woman, especially one who still has male sex organs, would be even more difficult due to those anatomical differences."What the fuck makes these experts believe any of this is possible?
I don't see how a uterus transplant is remotely possible with any meaningful success with our current technology and knowledge. How are they supposed to SUPPORT the entire structure, uterus, tubes, and ovaries with all the connective tissue? You can't use hard material, you can't functionally web everything together. How would drugs to stop organ rejection work out with troon surgeries, notorious for infection and complications and multiple revisions, and with cross sex hormones? How do you connect it to the man-made neovag? How do you stop a prolapse? Would the donor uterus be able to menstruate with cross sex hormones? How far up are you now dilating? How many patches of endometriosis would you like so you can suffer a hysterectomy for oppression/pity points? All questions we have no answers to.
 
I don't see how a uterus transplant is remotely possible with any meaningful success with our current technology and knowledge. How are they supposed to SUPPORT the entire structure, uterus, tubes, and ovaries with all the connective tissue? You can't use hard material, you can't functionally web everything together. How would drugs to stop organ rejection work out with troon surgeries, notorious for infection and complications and multiple revisions, and with cross sex hormones? How do you connect it to the man-made neovag? How do you stop a prolapse? Would the donor uterus be able to menstruate with cross sex hormones? How far up are you now dilating? How many patches of endometriosis would you like so you can suffer a hysterectomy for oppression/pity points? All questions we have no answers to.
This is why when they tried it on a man in Weimar Germany it killed the troonified faggot.
 
I don't see how a uterus transplant is remotely possible with any meaningful success with our current technology and knowledge. How are they supposed to SUPPORT the entire structure, uterus, tubes, and ovaries with all the connective tissue? You can't use hard material, you can't functionally web everything together. How would drugs to stop organ rejection work out with troon surgeries, notorious for infection and complications and multiple revisions, and with cross sex hormones? How do you connect it to the man-made neovag? How do you stop a prolapse? Would the donor uterus be able to menstruate with cross sex hormones? How far up are you now dilating? How many patches of endometriosis would you like so you can suffer a hysterectomy for oppression/pity points? All questions we have no answers to.
I just think it's insane that the medical community is entertaining this idea.TRAs appeal to authority by claiming the medical community cares about trans people, and has their backs, yet articles like "Trans women can give birth in 10 years." despite the insane amount of problems it has should tell people that all the medical community cares about is money, and playing god.Like i said, biological women already have problems with pregnancy, and etc, yet the medical community thinks men giving birth is literally around the corner?
This is why when they tried it on a man in Weimar Germany it killed the troonified faggot.
Nah but you see that was back in the 1930s.Clearly technology in the past 93 years has advanced so much to sci-fi levels where men can now give birth.
 
He died due to lack of immunosuppressant drugs rejecting the transplant, but I believe such a feat is impossible. Just way to many factors that you can't control all so your mental health has a slim chance at improving? Its lunacy.
I just think it's insane that the medical community is entertaining this idea
I don't see it happening. You would need a woman who, is compatible and wants to give up her uterus to a mentally ill man. Then somehow, avoid complications with the troonshine they are taking and combine it with immunosuppressant drugs. That to me is already a massive hurdle. How many troons do we see on here getting infections as a result of their procedures or just due to poor hygiene? Immunosuppressant drugs and bacteria don't mix. Antibiotics and pregnancy don't mix well either. Okay so assume you pass those challenges, now you have a living embryo growing in a transplanted organ that and kick and knock out sutures and do damage. Remember this is a man so anatomic structures don't change like they would in a woman so expected body changes would be impossible to alter due to bone structure. Combine that with the fact that a baby needs complex nutrients to grow. They talk about this being 10 years around the corner, I don't see it happening for another 25. Test tube babies would be safer, cheaper and more viable than this experiment.
 
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If we're talking troons and language, I've got some screenshots from Reddit I took, but couldn't upload, during the Tor only period tha I actually found informative for a change:
(No archive, sorry)
Nick Fletcher is an MP who had said preferred pronouns, and neopronouns were pointless, and there are only male and female pronouns.
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I don't agree with the conclusion, I would think it would be an impossibliy to rid English of gendered pronouns.

And the one reply:

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Fucking retard.
 
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"It's not even a necessary function"

It's a supplementary function which improves "deixis". There's only one "I", two "you"s (singular and plural) and two "we"s (with you and without you), but over 8'000'000'000 third persons. It's often that there are two persons in a sentence, and in 50% of cases they're of different sexes, with gendered pronouns allowing for 100% clarity and non-gendered pronouns bringing confusion.

I don't agree with the conclusion, I would think it would be an impossibility to rid English of gendered pronouns.
Other languages might have other ways of providing context and resolving ambiguities. English has what it has.

There have been less-retarded people who pointed out (see also: racebaiting, echoes, early life) that sexing people is sexist (yes) and therefore potentially bad (maybe) but no reform propositions that would stick. Expanding singular "they" beyond its generic-impersonal use case is by far the worst, because it brings even more confusion than a dedicated singular gender-agnostic third-person pronoun.

Wokism has thoroughly destroyed any chance of other propositions to be adopted, both by normies (using artificial pronouns == pedo sympathies) and by wokes (gender-agnostic pronoun == you do not respect clownself's gender identity).

It is interesting that Russian wokes are frothing at the mouth demanding MORE gendered words, despite being otherwise in lockstep with GAE wokism. The obstacle is that, for some older words (e.g. profession names), feminine forms exist but mean "wife of the male professional" (general woman == wife of a general) or something else entirely (machine man == locomotive engineer, machine woman == typist), and the ugly new forms the wokes come up with invariably have a pejorative connotation. It's clear there's no purpose behind gender language fuckery other than chilling speech and demoralization.
 
Why does the medical community keeps posting this bullshit?I'm not a biologist by any means but even i know there's more the pregnancy than just putting a uterus in a male's body and it'll work.Even a quote from the article from one of those "leading womb transplant experts" claims "The process is considered high-risk in "cisgender women" due to increased risk of complications." and "Doing this in a transgender woman, especially one who still has male sex organs, would be even more difficult due to those anatomical differences."What the fuck makes these experts believe any of this is possible?
They managed it with mice and the male rat was even able to give birth to live young but (and its a big but) it required that the male mouse essentially wear a pregnant female mouse as a backpack and use her circulatory system and the uniquely female hormones produced during pregnancy to keep the pregnancy viable. To reiterate: They had to fuse two live animals together in a Cronenbergian flesh horror beyond comprehension and only then could the male give birth.

Real next level horror movie shit. Makes me throw up in my mouth just thinking about it.

Of course the troons at the time never read past the headline and saw it as the greatest advancement in trans medical care and a sign that uterus transplants and pregancies are not only viable but imminently going to be possible in human males.
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They managed it with mice and the male rat was even able to give birth to live young but (and its a big but) it required that the male mouse essentially wear a pregnant female mouse as a backpack and use her circulatory system and the uniquely female hormones produced during pregnancy to keep the pregnancy viable. To reiterate: They had to fuse two live animals together in a Cronenbergian flesh horror beyond comprehension and only then could the male give birth.

Real next level horror movie shit. Makes me throw up in my mouth just thinking about it.

Of course the troons at the time never read past the headline and saw it as the greatest advancement in trans medical care and a sign that uterus transplants and pregancies are not only viable but imminently going to be possible in human males.
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If you think that a troon wouldn't be willing to do something that horrific to a woman for the sake of his fetish you're dead wrong.
 
They talk about this being 10 years around the corner, I don't see it happening for another 25. Test tube babies would be safer, cheaper and more viable than this experiment.
I don’t think this will ever happen. Medicine is still learning about the complex processes the happen before, during and after pregnancy and there’s a lot that can’t even be replicated in labs. Women’s bodies have evolved over millions of years to do one thing well, have healthy babies. And even then we still have all kinds of problems that both nature and modern medicine haven’t solved.

Yet somehow, just shoving a complex organ system that has never and will never belong in a male body is being discussed by “doctors.” Absolutely no medical professional actually believes this is possible in any capacity. I won’t even bother listing all the ways women’s bodies change and evolve to accommodate a pregnancy, let alone the process of giving birth. Also, a uterus transplant is a very very….very rare procedure that will never become mainstream. Its incredibly risky and prone to failure in even the healthiest woman in prime childbearing ages. It’s mostly a pet project by surgeons who want to get their name in the news and journals. And it works because journos are scum.

It’s almost as if major medical associations are determined to discredit and humiliate the very idea of medicine as a societal good.
 
Since the topic of preferred pronouns, language, and medical terms is being brought up, I figured I'd share this 'How to write a transman' piece from AO3. Written by a pooner, for other pooners, this pooner lists all the ways you can be the 100% cis ally writing a trans character. It has been archived here.

Before we post the dos and don'ts, these were a few responses to someone who asked whether the rotdog burrito would be functional, as canonically male characters were made transmen, and one was geared up to get a phalloplasty. Rotdog here insists she is not offended and is a strong, stalwart man facing off transphobia...until you read the guide.
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There were some words of support:
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"We aren't fucking scared."
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Right. That's why you break down crying when a cop manhandles you, or when a gay man says 'no'.

That said, let's see the contrast between what the pooner says in public, and what she demands when people write about trans experiences.

Some of these bits will be spoiled, because for a man, this pooner sure loves to ramble.

TL;DR.
I am a trans man (he/him/his). This guide is intended for cis people, not trans people.
If there is a trans male headcanon present in a cis person's fic, it's generally safe to assume any of the following:
  • The author has headcanoned a younger, prettier, more slender guy as a trans male.
  • If the author has not chosen a younger, prettier, more slender guy as a trans male, they will instead contort the canon characteristics of a male character in order to make him more submissive, stereotypically feminine, and helpless.
  • The trans man is featured having penetrative sex with a more masculine, manly, and dominant cis man. Inevitably, the trans man will be a bottom.
  • In lieu of any actual personality or interesting characterisation, the trans man will be a one-dimensional stereotype of transness, with few nuanced hobbies or traits beyond being trans.
  • The trans man's pre/non-op genitals will be described in excruciating detail, with no consideration for dysphoric readers.
  • The trans man, despite being an adult, is called a "boy" frequently. His cis male partner is never addressed that way.
These do not always occur in the same singular fic, but the trend of fetishising trans men is so well established that I'm absolutely confident in saying that it happens way too fucking often for my comfort. If you browse the comments, you will see that I'm not the only trans man who feels this way. Nor am I the only AFAB trans person who feels this way.
As a trans male author who has reclaimed female-typical terms
, I recognise that posting stories irresponsibly could make other trans guys uncomfortable. I recognise that, trans person or not, I do not want to make trans men feel like shit. So, I include plentiful warnings in my author's notes, and I tag responsibly. All that I ask is that cis people give enough of a fuck to do the same, and that the cis fanfiction community quits treating trans men as a fetish.
Here is the main difference between transwomen and transmen: transmen worry too much about making others uncomfortable, whereas transwomen routinely do not give a shit. Compare all the responses collected over every snippet, over every medium. Transwomen will barge into a space and colonize it, not caring who or what thinks of them. Transmen are worried they will be judged and demeaned, every single time. I also want you to note the next difference noted during these bullet points:

Here are the rules explored in this guide:
  • Do your research.
  • Write trans men the same way you write cis men.
  • Consider how offensive it is to headcanon real-life cis men as trans.
  • Ask yourself why you're including a trans man in your story. What motivates you?
  • Respect dysphoric trans men.
  • Handle pregnancy and menstruation carefully, if you handle such topics at all.
  • Don't portray damaging stuff. Write chest binding responsibly.
  • Forewarn the language you will use.
Always think about the trans man who may be reading your story, and how you are making him feel.
With Pooners, it is always about feelings, while transwomen boast about how much cum their assholes can swallow. Transmen worry so much about language and it offending them, while transwomen demand the language be bent for them. But we must remember that the push to use terms like 'pregnant person' is due solely to pooners rather than Hons, so their manipulation is by careful consideration rather than a jackboot to the face.

The guide continues. I will be posting snippets, because this guide really does get tiresome, and you're only here for the retarded pooner lingo, so I'll provide it.

The language recommendations I make in this guide specifically apply to fanfic depictions of trans men. None of my commentary on fandom language extends to medical/legal/insurance contexts where anatomically-accurate phrasing can be lifesaving. For example, the phrase "people with vaginas" is useful in many non-fic contexts, but encountering the word "vagina" in pornographic FTM fanfiction may make a trans man dysphoric.

If you're writing a different gender demographic (cis men, cis women, non-binary people), my advice may not apply at all. Don't think I'm demanding blanket censorship or anything ridiculous like that. Please continue to use words like "pussy" when referring to women and others, if you wish to. I've got no issue with that. Ultimately, my goal is to encourage more diversity, caution, and kindness whenever cis people approach writing FTM fanfiction specifically. I urge cis authors to learn and be led by their conscience. Every story and character will obviously be different.
Since I mentioned Dr. Cunt above, the phrase 'people with vaginas' is used to make transmen less dysphoric, at the cost of erasing women as a sex class. Note, again, transmen get dysphoric over the word 'vagina' or 'pussy', while transwomen will happily call their dick a 'girldick' or 'girlcock' or other such terms with no real offense. But she's not demanding blanket censorship, guys.

Browsing the guide, you will find some pics of somewhat passing transmen, mostly fat ones where it can genuinely be hard to tell. There are some black pooners, but using the knowledge you have learned from this thread and the SRS disaster thread, you'll learn how to clock even the most passing of pooners. For black pooners, they still have the softer skull, even when their sexual dimorphism can get a little muddy.

There is also an article, 16 Things I Learned While Having Sex with a Trans Man, which may or may not have been featured in the A&N thread. In any case, here is another time-honoured tidbit of advice:
Not all trans men look like this. But even if a trans man cannot "pass" (a concept rejected by many in the community), or does not want to undergo medical processes that would alter his body, he still deserves the dignity of being treated as a man. Just because a man is non-HRT and/or non-op doesn't mean he has zero genital dysphoria, or he would consent to being penetrated. And, even if he does like to be penetrated, he is not deserving of the infantilisation so commonly heaped upon FTM headcanons. You needn't turn male characters into infantilised caricatures of themselves in order to justify headcanoning them as FTM.
That's right. Transmen who make no effort to look like men deserve to be treated as one...well, just not the ribbing and insults. You'll make them cry.
The fetishisation of trans men is the inverse of fetishising trans women, but it is usually ignored as an issue by most LGBT+ groups and movements. Chasers often masculinise/hypersexualise trans women, and feminise/hypersexualise trans men. Contrary to the erasure of the latter, the damaging sexualisation of trans men is a serious issue. It's just as serious an issue as the fetishisation of any demographic.

Learning about real trans men is a key part of pushing back against transphobic fetishisation. The purpose of this guide is twofold; to give cis people an opportunity to learn about trans male experiences and diversity, and to raise awareness about transphobic fetishisation in fandom spaces. I have seen too many cis authors recycle the same tired, transphobic tropes, potentially without even knowing the damage they're doing and the dysphoria they're causing. In an age where trans men are finally getting more visibility, that needs to stop. This guide is an invitation to educate yourself.
I can't do much about people who don't give two shits about the mental health, dysphoria, and dignity of trans men. But I encourage well-meaning, open-minded authors to engage with this guide, and see if you can learn things never before explained to you.
One must wonder why transmen, who are supposed to be men, have such an issue gaining representation. Why all the focus on transwomen? We will never find out.

Do you characterise trans men as adorable, feminine, submissive, or cutesy? Do you only headcanon a character as FTM if he is smaller-bodied, young, or innocent?
Pooners have this trend where they invariably write themselves as being smaller and daintier than the men they wish to emulate. This is nearly an inescapable reality. For all their want to erase biological differences, the pooner only compares herself to men, their male bodies, and their maleness.
Do you look at Peter Parker and decide to erase his personality in favour of a weirdly juvenile, pussy-focussed trope? Does he become weak and submissive just because he's trans? Do you headcanon Stiles Stilinski as a young trans boy, and have a super masculine Derek Hale fucking him in his barely-of-age pussy? Would you rather headcanon a youthful-looking robot as a so-called "trans man" by slapping an artificial vagina on him, as opposed than Hank, an actual human guy from Detroit Become Human canon who could be AFAB? Are you so dissuaded because you consider transmasculinity incompatible with age? Do you suppose that trans men stop existing once we're no longer young and androgynous? Do you take Gavin Reed (a canonically violent, unkind, aggressive man) and make him softer and sweeter because he's trans? Do you focus on Gavin's pussy and contort his personality into a stereotype of submissiveness, when he's the exact opposite in canon? Why do you do that? Why must you infantilise a man the moment you characterise him as FTM?
Pretty sure Hank from DBH is an actual male, not a pooner. Besides, if we started writing transmen as aggressive little monsters like Audrey Hale, you are still going to complain. A pooner is never satisfied. The transwoman will adore big tits, asses, and the most feminine traits possible, the pooner cares more about being compared to a man.
Why not write trans men having anal sex? Why not write straight trans men who are in relationships with women? Why not write dominant trans men? Assertive trans men? Masculine trans men? Trans men whose personalities remain unchanged compared to canon? Trans men who are in relationships with non-binary people?
You should be asking yourself these questions.
Look, anyone can have anal sex. Even lesbians. It's not hard to stick an object up that orifice. But what the pooner is asking is for characters whose only personality trait is them being trans be the focal point of the story. Whereas a real man would be told to shut the fuck up and get over it, the pooner complains.
Trans men fuck and show intimacy in so many different ways, inhabiting all manner of diverse sexual and social roles. If you're infantilising grown men and writing as though trans guys are wildly different to cis men, you should really question why you view such men that way. Could it be because you truly view trans men as (a parody of) women? Or as a false, shallow, weak imitation of "real" men? If not, you should realise that you are giving precisely that impression when you depict trans men in such a stereotyping way.
Well, they are. We've seen it. The best bit I have to say, besides the pooner breaking down crying when the gay bros rejected her, was the hockey player pooner who got flipped on her back by a passing TIM hockey player. It wasn't even a full body check. It was just a graze and the pooner was knocked right the fuck out. So much for all that testosterone.
Additionally: Straight trans men exist, just like straight cis men. Many trans men only want to be with women. And some are asexual, among all of the other sexualities. Not all trans men are interested in other men, and some never explore that possibility. Stop conflating trans manhood with always being attracted to guys. When I see cis fangirls pumping out cutesy gay trans headcanons, I get suspicious that they're just turning trans guys into a fetish. Usually this builds onto the foundation of repeatedly making one boy in their gay ship unrealistically feminine and submissive, and the other man unrealistically dominant and masculine. It's no coincidence that trans guys come to inhabit the submissive, unrealistically feminine role in sneakily-heteronormative cis fanfiction. Shocker: It's because trans men are just taking the place of a woman (or, let's be real, a girl). I wonder why?
That is a leftover from fujoshi fandom. Sure, in certain gay relationships you'll have the top and the bottom, especially if one is the stereotypical faggot. But most are interchangeable; some are bears, some are happy twinks, etc etc. But they know what they are. Transmen hate being viewed as submissive because their innately female bodies are being compared to male ones. You are taking the role of a woman because you are one.
AO3 is publicly-accessible. I cannot imagine the utter horror of being a trans male celebrity and discovering that thousands of strangers are reading and/or writing about you being penetrated vaginally. It would be invasive beyond description. Remember: You cannot always tell that a man is trans. Not all celebrities are cis, even if they're assumed to be. If you headcanon a male celebrity as FTM on the basis of his height, facial features, or stature, you may cause him to feel that he's been "clocked" by fetishists.
We just can't tell. Your lack of orbital brow ridge, smaller shoulders even with T and thinner wrists are not a dead giveaway. Besides, plenty of other celebrities like BTS have to deal with so-called A/B/O fandom, where one of them has a magical vagina up his ass. They don't have mental breakdowns over that. I wonder why? Is it because men don't care?
Do you just want to write a trans man getting fucked? If so, do it well. Consult trans male Beta readers first (if you can), and make sure you're proceeding with caution. Smut and erotica is great, I enjoy it frequently myself and I write it too. But when I include someone who is outside of my demographic, I do so with respect. I don't know what it's like to be a lesbian, so I do my research. I listen to lesbian mates of mine, just like I listen to non-binary people when I consider including a non-binary person. Because that's important. Trans men are no exception.
Ah, approval from the Party. Always fun when you're writing something. I'd also like to point out that for all this pooner's talk about AO3 being a public forum and how appearances are important, that block button will come down quick if the pooner gets offended.

An author in particular (who was openly a cis woman) absolutely fucked my mental health. In one classically fetishising fic, she turned the masculine, canon version of this character into an utterly different individual who retained almost none of his original personality. She had written him as a human sex worker, placing him in a situation where he was defined by how he had sex. (You won't believe this... it was with his pussy. Who could've seen that coming?) She described his breasts, then had him fondled and vaginally penetrated by a more dominant, masculine cis man. (Of course.) She put him in a dress and made him uncomfortably feminine, in a way that was incompatible with his canon self. (Classic.) She waxed poetic about how pretty and delicate his appearance was, in contrast to the rough and grizzled nature of the cis men who surrounded him. (Gotta separate trans men from the real men, right?)
Wow...it's almost as if the pooner was being clocked as an actual woman and the real man was just using the pooner as a semen receptacle. Who could've seen that coming?

I'll give her credit for tagging pregnancy in advance, but her handling of that storyline made me so dysphoric that I literally felt sick. Even pre-warned, her fantasy of a cute, dress-wearing, younger trans guy being impregnated by a masculine, older cis guy made me physically ill. The warnings she did provide were sparse and nowhere near adequate, partly because they didn't communicate the extent to which this male character remained the same in name only, whereas the cis man was quite similar (if not identical) to his canon self. Even when the story progressed beyond the trans guy being a dress-wearing sex worker, he was still a stranger to canon. The message this sends is undeniable; in the eyes of such fangirls, cis men get to be the same as canon, but that's impossible for trans men.

I would've had no issue with a trans man writing that same story. Masculinity, femininity, desire, trauma, gender roles, and sex can be fucking complicated if you're a man who was assigned female at birth, especially if you lived any of your formative years in the role of a girl. Trans men have the right to unpack FTM experiences however we wish. What made me sick was the fact that a cis woman was taking those complicated experiences and bulldozing them, twisting the vulnerability and complexity of trans maleness into a stereotype of girlhood. It's about intent and execution. If a trans man is saying "this is taken from my own experiences," that's very different from, "I'm a cis woman and I think trans men are delicate little boys with pussies, therefore this cis guy has to unrecognisably change if I'm writing him as a trans man."
At a time when my dysphoria was at its worst, this author made me feel so dysphoric that I wanted to hurt myself. (I wish I was exaggerating but no, I'm not. Don't underestimate dysphoria.) I was naive enough to consider all fanfiction a form of escapism, an LGBT-friendly world where I would be safe from the kind of bullshit I dealt with in real life. My defences were lowered. Now, as an older man who is further along in his transition, I'm less distressed by fetishisation, and not so easily hurt. But not all trans men are in that situation.

In response to this fic and to other "trans" fics she had posted, I left comments in good faith, offering deep insights into how she had provoked a dysphoric response by misrepresenting trans men. I was neither satisfied nor reassured by the responses I received. More than that, I was horrified to realise that her misrepresentations weren't outliers in this particular fanfic community. She had swallowed and regurgitated other fangirls' feminised depictions of trans men, which were rampant across Tumblr. I won't say she was even the worst offender among the crowd, yet her stories severely impacted me. She's the main reason I left the fandom. I was sick of fangirls writing cis men like men, and trans men like girls. I still am.

To all women who are reading this: Don't be like that author, please. Most trans men, myself included, will despise you for depicting trans men within narrow stereotypes. Plus, if a trans man reaches out to you and informs you that your writing has made him feel like crap, don't reply with flimsy excuses. Have some humility.

The pooner places a lot of emphasis on 'kindly warnings' and 'better language', while the transwoman would've called her a cunt and sent her a death threat. For all these people's talk on how fiction is just fiction, they certainly break down easily over a pooner's pussy being described in detail.


Since this post is getting a wee bit long, I am going right to the meat of the guide. Everything else you can peruse to your pace.
The two things that all trans men have in common is that we are presumed female at birth, but are men. Beyond that, we're hugely diverse. We have many different kinds of genitals, and we use them in many different ways. Some of us have vaginas which are non-op and non-HRT. Some of us undergo Metoidioplasty surgeries. Some of us undergo Phalloplasty surgeries. Some of us undergo vaginal closing surgeries, with or without further surgical affirmation. Some of us experience extensive bottom growth that allows for penetrative sex, whether we use penis extenders or not. Some of us are female-presumed intersex with varied genitalia. Some trans men, including Mason Caminiti in the documentary Man Made, refuse to be naked in front of their own spouses until they've had bottom surgery. Genital dysphoria can be that intense. It can greatly impact men's lives, plus the lives of their partners. Never forget that some of your trans male readers directly associate their trans maleness with having a penis, whether that means using prosthetics or having surgery.
Anyone who has visited the SRS horrors thread knows the 'dicks' they get are only 2 inches or so long. The pooner also has paragraphs dedicated to this 'dick shaming', which naturally she doesn't like. Again, note how pooners and trans people in general will state they do not deny biology and accept that they are female, but will issue statements like 'we're presumed female at birth, but are actually men.' They are not.

If you're about to embark on a trans male headcanon, take a moment to consider the men who are starved of representation that isn't pussy-focussed. Ask yourself why you want to add to the "trans boy with a pussy" pile.

I would advise not discussing menstruation, if at all possible. Depicting that subject requires tact, research, communication with trans men, and the use of language which is not infantilising. Many cis people portray menstruating trans men as "cutesy, oblivious, small damsels in distress", which is a critique afforded to me by a fellow trans guy.
'Fellow men' don't talk about menstruation like that, because men don't menstruate. Shocking, I know.
Even if a trans man struggles with such bodily functions, he is probably not a helpless little boy who needs to be bundled up in blankets and fed chocolate. Care and affection from partners is wonderful, but you don't need to turn trans men into childlike, cutesy boys in order to portray them being comforted during menstruation. A grown man can snuggle up to his partner and eat chocolate without being reduced to an infantile caricature of himself.
Ah yes, snuggling and eating chocolate while menstruating. Very manly.

Let's sum this up with terms the author doesn't like.
Not all of us are triggered by the same things, which is precisely why cis authors need to stop assuming they can focus disproportionately on pre/non-op genitals and not offer any forewarning. Some guys are okay with one or two of these words, some are okay with all of them, some of us are okay with none of them. Many AFAB non-binary people may also be upset by the reckless and inconsiderate use of such language. Write responsibly.
Many of us also hate the following terms:
  • Penis in vagina sex.
  • Vaginal sex.
  • Female orgasms.
  • Cunnilingus.
  • Pegging.
  • Time of the month.
  • Period.
  • Strap-on.
  • Squirting.
This is because all of the above have female connotations which, while inoffensive (and sexy) to some men, are highly upsetting to others. Many of us just want to feel that we have a penis, and want to have sex like cis men. Many of us don't want to see cis-authored fics where trans men are described using the words above.
Well, you can't, because you don't have a fucking cock, front hole haver.
 
Medicine is still learning about the complex processes the happen before, during and after pregnancy and there’s a lot that can’t even be replicated in labs.
It actually makes me quite sick to imagine the amount of experimenting on pregnant women that would have to happen to learn some of the things they'd need to know. Far beyond Mengele's wildest dreams.
Awful shit, I just unironically pray that the Chinese aren't at this with the Uyghurs, or some project in Africa sponsored by the Pritzkers or Jon Stryker.
 
Other languages might have other ways of providing context and resolving ambiguities.
Standard Chinese is considered a "genderless" language due to he/she/deity/a fucking chair having different pronounces when written but all of them sounding the same, . There are no gendered word endings and one could theoretically spend hours talking about someone without revealing their gender (which is sometimes used to build up some intrigue). Most gendered pronounces are now out of use and were historically connected to one's position (concubines, officials, generals, prostitutes, emperors, the list goes on). They are kind of gendered just due to the overwhelming majority of people in those positions being of a single sex.
Even in such a genderless heaven there are evil adjectives that you just won't use to describe a man/woman. There are movements to normalize calling men pretty and women handsome, but you can't really do anything about an entire list of dead giveaways simply because everyone's perception of those words is this skewed.

It is interesting that Russian wokes are frothing at the mouth demanding MORE gendered words, despite being otherwise in lockstep with GAE wokism.
This demand was initially started by some particularly retarded radical feminists years ago. It was memed to hell and back, back then, all under the lens of "stupid ass women inventing stupid ass words".
Zoomer wokies just took the crusty flag of language rape into their hands without thinking much about it.
 
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Pretty sure Hank from DBH is an actual male, not a pooner.
Hank from Detroit Become Human is the stereotypical hard drinking, jaded cop nearing retirement that's grumpy as shit and resentful with being tied to a new inexperienced, and enthusiastic partner.
He's a man's man, the older, grumpy cop in the Buddy Cop storyline, still traumatized over the death of his son, something he deals with by drinking and avoiding the subject and whos only emotion until he loosens up and comes to like his new partner, who he grows to see as a surrogate son through the story, is anger and impatience.
Hank was my bro in that game. I thought he was an asshole at first but Clancy Brown is a great actor, he makes you grow to respect Hank and then like him throught the story as you learn what made him the grumpy bastard he is, and shows he has a heart under all the whiskey and snark. There are no scenes where you find Hank crying about people being mean and he asks you to cuddle on the couch.
Hank is absolutely nothing like a Pooner.
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Hank - Not a Pooner.
 
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Standard Chinese is considered a "genderless" language due to he/she/deity/a fucking chair having different pronounces when written but all of them sounding the same, . There are no gendered word endings and one could theoretically spend hours talking about someone without revealing their gender (which is sometimes used to build up some intrigue).
Do you - or does anyone else here - know if this is also true of modern Japanese?
 
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Do you - or does anyone else here - know if this is also true of modern Japanese?
No idea, never bothered to learn it above a high school weeaboo level. Would also love to hear from anyone knowledgeable.

Can't edit my post anymore, but forgot to mention the divide between self-pronounces and general addresses in my post. It's a huge can of worms because those can not correlate, and both categories had their share of gendered words phased in and out of existence, on top of etiquette at the time. You can't tie them to the western concept of fancy self ID tags because they were about your status in society, not whether you feel like wearing a skirt today. The female written variant of didn't even exist until like a century ago. If you needed to point at someone and say "he/she/tranny" without specifying their name and/or field of work/nobility/whatever you had one option and that was it. It changed several times over the course of history, but every time it was a "say one mean all" deal.

I've seen modern people of gender use "ta" (in English letters) or "X也" instead of 他&她 as alternatives for "they" and neopronounces, but it just looks dumb as fuck. People would sooner keel over laughing at X也 than spell it out loud and 他 is already considered a neutral option for when one's gender isn't specified (or you don't want to bother with writing 她 - still perfectly valid). Haven't gone back to China in ages, but doubt it got any major traction IRL either.
I think the closest things to still existing actual gendered self-pronounces are essentially "I, badass man" and "I, badass lady" but those are kinda cringe if you're above 20 and/or not currently arguing on the internet.
Sorry for my somewhat incoherent ramblings, I'm running on no sleep.
 
If you think that a troon wouldn't be willing to do something that horrific to a woman for the sake of his fetish you're dead wrong.
There IS an impregnation fetish that's mixed with amputation. I.e. wearing a slave with amputated limbs that's soley used to produce offspring. Sibce so many are porn sick, I bet at least a quarter would get off to the idea since they're basically ogres anyway.
 
I got all of these from a Bloodborne fanblog. Have some headcanons from a troon. Archive.
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A totally real story about a kid beating up his principal to save a pooner's honor. Archive.
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An enby demands that people should be louder and more demanding of what they want, because we only see them as GirlLite. Archive.
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A troon gets loudly deadnamed after wearing cat ears at the doctor's office. Archive.
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There's nothing stopping evil people from going wherever they want, so open up your spaces, ladies:
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And what does this dainty lady look like?
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They look exactly the same!


To be a true ally, buy your trans friends some lunch (and give them your money). Archive.
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An intersex advocate (spoiler alert: she doesn't have a DSD, she has PCOS, a uniquely female condition) rambles about the inner workings of their language. Archive.
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She details how she went through puberty at the age of 9. Proceeds to lie about her being intersex anyways, for the pity points and intersectionality. Archive.
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Werewolves the perfect allegory for trans people, truly. Archive.
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And, of course, we cannot finish without troons demanding that gay men and lesbians sleep with them.
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