Debate Vtuber simps about being pedophiles

[The Lawgiver]

Not sure why 10 pages and an entire month later you decided to reply to me

This website typically discourages oversharing and is what 99% of the time gets the lolcows in the positions they're in in the first place, what I meant was I had no idea we had so many people who see this happen everyday and somehow think they're an exception

Your reply is illogical and implies this site exists to overshare and be a degenerate

It's the reptilians. Or the greys.
One of them has replaced that user and a lot of users within both this thread and the Vtuber thread.
I also do not trust you entirely not to be one of them so I will once agian refrain from giving the deep intel on the anime degeneracy connection.

 

[José Mourinho]

I used to argue with the people on r/kotakuinaction2 about this.

Post is great but this part makes me feel bad for you for trying to argue with these pedophiles ephebaphiliacs (I don't care if I get the name wrong), I can imagine it's a shitshow.

 

[Don't Tread on Me]

Pippa and another V-Tuber discuss how loli is just drawings with no victims.

 

[Retink Retunk]

Pippa and another V-Tuber discuss how loli is just drawings with no victims.

They're both libertarian, but Pippa did defend KF during a recent stream when someone called it a dox site. She can't call it out by name due to her company ties, but she was very clear that it wasn't a bad place.

 

[Wodanaz]

They're both libertarian porn addicts

you don't say

 

[Manimal House]

Pippa and another V-Tuber discuss how loli is just drawings with no victims.

One thing that doesn't get talked about enough is that anime is accessible to children and teenagers. They make up a large portion of the audience, and it's the only medium I can think of that's infested with sexual content.
Let's say you're a boy that's 14, going through puberty (overactive dick) and you see a 16 year old being sexualized. Odds are, you won't care....or at least your shlong won't. If it reacts and you start fapping to anime/hentai then you're probably not going to stop and next thing you know, you're 25 years old and are still getting wood from underage fictional characters.
They say slippery slopes are a fallacy but idk man...ever since anime became all mainstream there's been this huge uptick in people on the internet wearing their fascination for little girls on their sleeve. Lolis very well could be CREATING pedophiles, and the only thing that's (arguably) worse than that is literally normalizing adults fucking minors.

 

[Omen_Sulk]

They say slippery slopes are a fallacy but idk man...ever since anime became all mainstream there's been this huge uptick in people on the internet wearing their fascination for little girls on their sleeve. Lolis very well could be CREATING pedophiles, and the only thing that's (arguably) worse than that is literally normalizing adults fucking minors.

If those people are so much like programmable NPC's their sexuality can be manipulated by online porn. They'll probably be a troon by 25.

 

[Evil Ash]

Anime is a very broad genre, with this shit being just a part of it.

There is a lot of crap on the internet, these days it does not take a genius to learn how to use Tor and secretly learn how to build a volcano fortress complete with nukes.

What's the alternative, more government regulation? Parents need to be smarter than their kids, if the kid is internet savvy, the parents need to be savvyier before their little cum-sprout becomes the next Heisenberg.

 

[BirdUp]

vtubers are japanese men with voice changers also their avatars are always children

 

[Manimal House]

If those people are so much like programmable NPC's their sexuality can be manipulated by online porn. They'll probably be a troon by 25.

And look what happened, the troon boom started years ago. I don't know the extent of the overlap with that and anime pedos, but I know there's at least some.
But that's how it goes, when you're introduced to perverted shit in your developing years (let alone bombarded with it) that shit will cross your wires and fuck you up for life. Though I will say that parents buying their 11 year old kids a smartphone and expecting them NOT to look at X-rated content share a substantial amount of the blame for the amount of young porn addicts we have.

There is a lot of crap on the internet, these days it does not take a genius to learn how to use Tor and secretly learn how to build a volcano fortress complete with nukes.

Yeah but that's just the internet, and parents who aren't completely braindead know not to let their kid have unrestricted access to the internet. But with anime, so much of this is snuck in and it's either glossed over or defended because 'it's not harming anyone', and I'm not convinced that it isn't. People who have never even watched anime know what a loli is.
Similarly, you know those Japanese girl singers called "idols" that sing in frilly dresses to cutesy music? Have you ever seen the audience during one of those shows? It's mostly a bunch of creepy dudes trying not to jizz themselves. I just tried searching for pictures of the audience at one of these shows and aside from the ones I'm posting, the results were....worse than I thought. I'm now grossed out and convinced that the Japanese are just really into rape.

Spoiler: What living on nuke island does to a motherfucker

 

[Spud]

loli is just drawings with no victims.

They're right though, a drawing can't feel the pain that a real child goes through. A drawing doesn't have to live with the knowledge that their suffering is forever out there monetized with them being unable to do anything to take it down. A drawing won't wake up at 1am after reliving what happened to them in a nightmare. A drawing doesn't spend the rest of their life having to process and deal with the trauma of what happened. When people start saying that lolicon is equal to cp they forget there is a real child losing their innocence and are comparing to lines on paper. I don't get why the frothing rage that I have reserved for people who produce and want the real stuff has to also be applied to drawings of people who will never exist. That's time and effort that can be put into stopping the real stuff being made but instead they'll virtue signalling about how much they hate lolicon to people on the Internet for clout.

 

[Don't Tread on Me]

They're right though, a drawing can't feel the pain that a real child goes through. A drawing doesn't have to live with the knowledge that their suffering is forever out there monetized with them being unable to do anything to take it down. A drawing won't wake up at 1am after reliving what happened to them in a nightmare. A drawing doesn't spend the rest of their life having to process and deal with the trauma of what happened. When people start saying that lolicon is equal to cp they forget there is a real child losing their innocence and are comparing to lines on paper. I don't get why the frothing rage that I have reserved for people who produce and want the real stuff has to also be applied to drawings of people who will never exist. That's time and effort that can be put into stopping the real stuff being made but instead they'll virtue signalling about how much they hate lolicon to people on the Internet for clout.

How do you think artists are able to draw and sketch a child's proportions? Just out of their imagination?

 

[Spud]

How do you think artists are able to draw and sketch a child's proportions? Just out of their imagination?

What is an art book?

 

[Evil Ash]

Yeah but that's just the internet, and parents who aren't completely braindead know not to let their kid have unrestricted access to the internet. But with anime, so much of this is snuck in and it's either glossed over or defended because 'it's not harming anyone', and I'm not convinced that it isn't. People who have never even watched anime know what a loli is.
Similarly, you know those Japanese girl singers called "idols" that sing in frilly dresses to cutesy music? Have you ever seen the audience during one of those shows? It's mostly a bunch of creepy dudes trying not to jizz themselves. I just tried searching for pictures of the audience at one of these shows and aside from the ones I'm posting, the results were....worse than I thought. I'm now grossed out and convinced that the Japanese are just really into rape.

I am not an anime fan, but I have seen a few because some of my friends do enjoy it. Most of it has been robots, tough yakuza looking guys, and very bad animation. I have heard the word loli but have never really understood what it means before reading this thread.

Most of your examples are Japanese people, which I presume occurred in Japan. Yes its a different culture, but so is the Middle East: a place that sells its daughters before they even undergo their first period. Are we going to invade every culture that we find sickening, despite them not posing a threat to us personally? The West has already had its ass handed to it by the Taliban. The US is stupid, but not stupid enough to attack a country that is not permitted to use its military outside of self-defense, and has provided the world with some of the most advanced technology of its time, just because they offend their sensibilities.

They're right though, a drawing can't feel the pain that a real child goes through. A drawing doesn't have to live with the knowledge that their suffering is forever out there monetized with them being unable to do anything to take it down. A drawing won't wake up at 1am after reliving what happened to them in a nightmare. A drawing doesn't spend the rest of their life having to process and deal with the trauma of what happened. When people start saying that lolicon is equal to cp they forget there is a real child losing their innocence and are comparing to lines on paper. I don't get why the frothing rage that I have reserved for people who produce and want the real stuff has to also be applied to drawings of people who will never exist. That's time and effort that can be put into stopping the real stuff being made but instead they'll virtue signalling about how much they hate lolicon to people on the Internet for clout.

Just because an activity is considered "victimless" does not mean it will be legal. Many countries try to stem activity that might lead to the actual crime that does have victims. Speech restrictions, even in the US, are good examples. How many people have died just by the word of a retard who tells others to assassinate someone specific? This retard motivates some other retard to commit the actual crime of assassination, despite the fact that the first retard did not hurt anyone.

 

[Spud]

Just because an activity is considered "victimless" does not mean it will be legal.

I get your point but my issue stems from how it's handled. I don't trust any government to make a law regarding it that can't be used to attack law abiding people later on down the line. New Zealand is a good example as their Terrorism laws used to charge a man and sentence him to 14 years in jail for possession of the Christchurch shooting. He didn't commit it he just downloaded and sent the video to friends, no punishment give to Facebook for being the place that hosted said shooting and said video also caused some issue for this site as some providers used it as justification to drop services to the site. I see the lolicon stuff as more a social issue to solve rather than a legislative one, no need to ban it but just keep an eye on the people who consume it like the background check you go through to buy firearms just publicly available for anyone to look up.

 

[Omen_Sulk]

I am not an anime fan, but I have seen a few because some of my friends do enjoy it. Most of it has been robots, tough yakuza looking guys, and very bad animation. I have heard the word loli but have never really understood what it means before reading this thread.

What's odd to me is the people online quick to point out cartoon media from countries outside the US for being the source of degeneracy. But the stuff coming from the West, appears to be largely ignored by them. The people in academia, talking about how children can consent, and populating the schools with books on how to perform anal sex. Institutionally pushed degeneracy, I think, is a bigger problem than the niche overseas market.

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

I know next to nothing about Vtubers so I don't know, but it's best not to cheapen the accusation of being a pedophile, lest it lose its meaning like the word racist and then benefit actual predators.

 

[Manimal House]

Most of your examples are Japanese people, which I presume occurred in Japan. Yes its a different culture, but so is the Middle East: a place that sells its daughters before they even undergo their first period. Are we going to invade every culture that we find sickening, despite them not posing a threat to us personally? The West has already had its ass handed to it by the Taliban. The US is stupid, but not stupid enough to attack a country that is not permitted to use its military outside of self-defense, and has provided the world with some of the most advanced technology of its time, just because they offend their sensibilities.

Woah now, let's back up a bit. I'm not suggesting that the US should go on some crusader war against Japan for anime, that would be retarded overkill. I do think that the Japanese are FAR too lenient on the subject of rape and child exploitation (and they should be called out for it), but if all of the sexual content was kept out of anime that children should otherwise be able to watch, then this would be a whole different scenario. I've seen some shows before and there were some that have none of that in there, but they tend to be the ones made at least 20 years ago.

I tried to find out why this is being mass produced, and I found this Dateline special from 13 years ago where they talked about anime trending in this direction. It's an interesting watch

(TLDW is that anime is getting more degenerate every year because in order for studios to make money, they have to cater to the obsessive fan audience. Additionally, the only artists they can hire that will work for shit pay are also weirdos that crank it to anime girls. Essentially, weebs and lolis took over because they're buying most of the merch).

I don't trust any government to make a law regarding it that can't be used to attack law abiding people later on down the line

Yeeeeaaaahhhh, to tell the truth, the only reason why I'm not exactly for loli shit being illegal is because I have zero trust that the government will use the power of approving which art is acceptable in good faith.

What's odd to me is the people online quick to point out cartoon media from countries outside the US for being the source of degeneracy. But the stuff coming from the West, appears to be largely ignored by them

First of all, you can hate both. Second, I'm not sure how you can say that's being ignored. Most people are disgusted by that, especially the ones that point out how anime has the same problem. When someone is in support of the examples you provided, everyone else rightfully suspects them of being up to no good. With lolis, it's fine because it's not real? I don't buy it.

 

[Omen_Sulk]

First of all, you can hate both. Second, I'm not sure how you can say that's being ignored. Most people are disgusted by that, especially the ones that point out how anime has the same problem. When someone is in support of the examples you provided, everyone else rightfully suspects them of being up to no good. With lolis, it's fine because it's not real? I don't buy it.

I'm more interested in the source than the symptoms.

 

[Male Idiot]

It is only okay when the US government does it to real children, you bigots.

Big tiddy 17 year old drawings, when 17 is legal in most of the world?

Clearly a more worthy target to ree and pray loudly at, that sure worked to ruin Doom and ban all video games, will work again!

Christcucks and cuckservatards truly deserve the goonclown world they did nothing about preventing... I mean politely protested and prayed against it.

You mutts should let real humans like India lead the world, they are clearly your intellectual superiors.

But I am sure necrophilia* will be the red line where y'all truly really super duper sure mean it, this time!

*Corpsefucking will be seen as okey, the Republicans will ban Twilight finally, so they did something good!