Greta Gustava Martela / Kjel Anderson & Nina Chaubal / Niraj Chaubal - Stole $350k+ from Trans Lifeline, kill count of 2+ from negligence, Founders of Sisterwood/La Zorra.

[Replicant Sasquatch]

Kjel may have been sued in small claims court in 2013 by a Tara Cavanaugh.

We have verification? That's interesting if true

 

[Sexy Rexxy]

We have verification? That's interesting if true

edit: this was in Stanislaus County Superior Court in California

 

[drain]

Spoiler: Dumb pics I found about this mess

Its all horseshit, as always.

 

[Replicant Sasquatch]

Spoiler: Dumb pics I found about this mess

Its all horseshit, as always.

Trans Lifeline helps us know we are not alone

 

[GS 281]

Yeah, but like who commits suicide at 2AM on a Saturday morning?

 

[ShavedSheep]

Yeah, but like who commits suicide at 2AM on a Saturday morning?

People without anyone to schedule it for them

 

[Null]

I can't give comment on Kiwileak reports to IRS, but I would like to say that nothing stops additional reports. The documents that were sent are now already incomplete due to recent digging. Just keep in mind that documents which lead to investigation might not protect your identity, so if you do file, do not say you've filed as to dissociate the report from accounts here.

 

[GS 281]

I can't give comment on Kiwileak reports to IRS, but I would like to say that nothing stops additional reports. The documents that were sent are now already incomplete due to recent digging. Just keep in mind that documents which lead to investigation might not protect your identity, so if you do file, do not say you've filed as to dissociate the report from accounts here.

Good warning. No one wants a knife-packing tryhard who will drive cross-country to impress ADF and Richard pounding on their door, stalking out their house for god knows how long.

Spoiler: Sperging on stats, donations, etc.

One thing we should be mindful of is how our attention can be used by them to solicit funding.

Some interesting things in this graphic. They say they tripled coverage. Technically they can say that because 3*0=0

http://archive.is/eClv4

Also, notice how it says "we helped 50 people per day"? Look below. The highest number of calls they had taken in a month in 2015 between January and September was less than 750. 750/30=25. In September it looks to be like 150, so like 5 calls a day.

They do report answering 18,000 calls in 2 years, so, excluding the about 3,000 They took in 2015 and the (generously) possibly 500 calls the took in 2014, they took 14,500 in the last 8 months, so they're answering more than 60 calls a day now?

Using their own numbers, they are only taking calls like 47% of the time, and keeping an eye on their current stats, it is less than that, with normally 1, sometimes 2, rarely 3 volunteers available. That's something like 5.32 calls being taken an hour by an outfit that is typically staffed with 1-2 volunteers, when volunteers are actually in place.

There are a few problems I see with this. First, from a cursory review of crisis center stats, the average crisis call is between 30-40 minutes in length. So with typically 1 person available when there is someone available, they have found out how to turn 30-40 minute calls into 10-12 minute calls? Also, this is a niche crisis center with people who receive only a few hours of training and they mow through calls like that?

Sorry, this doesn't add up to me.

Another thing to note,

They are trying to work with established researchers and a university project. The project seems noble and it does not seem as though there is any way for Greta or their crew to poison the research as the raw data is being collected from people calling in. It actually seems like a novel project and I hope Dr. Testa the best in the research. I just hope that Testa and the AAS are mindful of who they are working with because as far as I know Greta and Nina have zero experience or education with what they are trying to impact.

Also lol

We will take cis money, but not cis crisis line volunteers!

Of course.

 

[Cunty Boo Boo]

Its all horseshit, as always.

Tammy Slaton?!

 

[AnOminous]

How do I go about volunteering with these guys?

I don't know if you're kidding but if you actually did it, it would show what a fraud this "charity" is.

I hope you would actually not try to talk any troons into offing themselves, though, but you seem like ok sorts, you'd probably do a better job than the morons they actually do have.

If you had to deal with Greta and Nina ditching operations to go to the gun and knife show or to hunt down people for running websites you don't like you would need suicide prevention yourself.

Not even kidding, maybe the Kiwi Farms should sign up to help out. Most of us are trannies with mental issues, and its not like anyone is doing anything here anyway.

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Other than Greta's accountant probably.

I guess they're too busy harassing people online to answer calls from suicidal people about to off themselves. What a fucking impressive charity.

 

[Chan the Wizard]

Someone actually answering the phone would do a better job than these whack jobs.

 

[AnOminous]

If I'm understanding this correctly, Greta hired someone who is:

1. A highschool dropout (whose reasons for dropping out may or may not have to do with working for TransLifeline)
2. A trans teen (i.e., likely to be very vulnerable emotionally)
3. Away from his parents for the first time
4. And has minimal office admin training

That seems downright abusive.​

This operation is looking more and more like an abusive cult that practically kidnaps vulnerable victims and then enslaves them.

Ever notice for how awfully we're described in any media that discusses us that the people who attack us are almost invariably outright fucking GARBAGE?

 

[Ambivalenz]

TLL took this dude´s donation, then "Greta" blocked him after some back and forth because she disagreed with his tranny porn company.

Of course they fucking do.

 

[AnOminous]

These people are creeps enough that even porno sleazebags look better in comparison.

 

[GS 281]

Greta's a fucking joke, fam.

 

[Smutley]

TLL took this dude´s donation, then "Greta" blocked him after some back and forth because she disagreed with his tranny porn company.

Of course they fucking do.

Kitty striker is an obese sjw fetish model from California who is friends with Phil. Because all these people are tied together.

 

[WWWWolf]

Sub'd to thread. Popcorn pending.
I usually stay the hell out of transdrama stuff (because every single time I try to follow this stuff, I realise life is too short and screaming in the internets helps no one, oh god, why), but I'll make an exception here.
(sorry for micropowerlevelaggression: ) I'm trans, got depression, have friends who have depression, some of them were suicidal. Two points from experience: a) Being part of someone else's support network while you try to handle that same stuff yourself is extremely taxing to everyone involved. Sooner or later you need serious professional outside help, too. You can't handle this stuff in your own bubble. b) I'd be really rich if I got a penny each time someone said "Oh, we're totally there to help you all times" and totally failed to show up when the push comes to shove. If you can't help, don't even pretend you will commit to it.
I guess I don't really have a bigger point to contribute to the thread, except to say that this is just the kind of shit that needs to be fixed in the society. Give 'em hell, get 'em to fix this shit.

 

[drain]

You can't handle this stuff in your own bubble.

Exactly. The problem with those sjw and transtrenders of Tumblr is exactly that: The Echochamber Mentality. They surround themselves with 'like minded' inividuals that, on the majority of the time, aren't 'prepared' or able to help efficiently. I mean, look at Greta here. Do you guys think that he/she would have success in helping anyone? They will only make things worse.
The 'you're beautiful just the way you are fuck society' isn't the thing that real struggling people should hear. They need serious help, not to tell society to fuck off, but to be able to function on society.

 

[WWWWolf]

The 'you're beautiful just the way you are fuck society' isn't the thing that real struggling people should hear. They need serious help, not to tell society to fuck off, but to be able to function on society.

I'd say that "calm down, everything will be fine, you're doing great, and if you gather yourself you can handle all of your problems" is not necessarily something you want to tell to a depressed or suicidal individual. If it was, suicide hotlines could be replaced with canned recordings.
That's because those sentiments are for people who are in a rational mindset. If I'm having a good day, I know everything will be ultimately fine and the sky's the limit on what I can do. On a bad day? A little bit of specific help on how to disentangle this seemingly colossal mess would be appreciated, thank you.
And call me sceptical, but I doubt 2 hour training covers every solution to every little specific thing that brings people down hard.

 

[CatParty]

I'd say that "calm down, everything will be fine, you're doing great, and if you gather yourself you can handle all of your problems" is not necessarily something you want to tell to a depressed or suicidal individual. If it was, suicide hotlines could be replaced with canned recordings.
That's because those sentiments are for people who are in a rational mindset. If I'm having a good day, I know everything will be ultimately fine and the sky's the limit on what I can do. On a bad day? A little bit of specific help on how to disentangle this seemingly colossal mess would be appreciated, thank you.
And call me sceptical, but I doubt 2 hour training covers every solution to every little specific thing that brings people down hard.

Two hours of training barely covers how to operate a normal call center phone system