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[Mulch]

A fat TIF gets a surgery meant for girls with small tits. Then gets upset when her result doesn't look good.

Spoiler: Deflated tits

For those who don't know, peri-surgery is done by cutting your nipples off, taking the fat and other shit out through the holes and sewing the nipples back on. Even a retard would know to not to get that surgey if they have big tits.

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[gampboonerisms]

A fat TIF gets a surgery meant for girls with small tits. Then gets upset when her result doesn't look good.

Spoiler: Deflated tits

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For those who don't know, peri-surgery is done by cutting your nipples off, taking the fat and other shit out through the holes and sewing the nipples back on. Even a retard would know to not to get that surgey if they have big tits.

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Lmao at all that hair. Of course I've known women hair from their neck to their navel! /sarcasm

I'm just astounded. The surgeon recreated Melting Clocks on the human body.

 

[Dragged Into Sunlight]

>locked-in syndrome
Literal nightmare fuel I wouldn't wish on the worst people of fucking humanity. I can't even make fun of this, it's fucking tragic and horrifying. For anyone lucky enough to not know what it is, imagine sleep paralysis, but permanent. You can sometimes look and blink, even that much depends, and your breathing you can't control, it's just regulated by a specific part of your brain you can't tap.
You can feel pain, you can feel when people touch you, you can hear, you can see, but you can't ever move. You can't make noise, you can't talk. So you could be in horrific amounts of pain (if I remember right they drug you up just in case of that very thing happening) and nobody would know other than possible indicators like heart rate. But if it hurts, just not enough to raise your heart rate, you're fucked.

There have been stories of people being raped and giving birth while locked in, without pain killer because nobody fucking knew. I would legit rather fucking die than live like that. I hope someone puts her out of her misery, what an awful way to exist, cuz god knows it ain't living.

I wish @Null could embed background music into thread pages

Nvm, should have read the rest of the thread and OQP beat me with a far better joke lmfao. Someone go bug the people in the AI thread to make Ellen Page sing this bridge.

DARKNESS
IMPRISONING ME
SO I CAN BE
ABSOLUTE POONER
I CANNOT COPE
I CANNOT SNEED
TRAPPED IN MYSELF
AT LEAST I HAVE NO REGRETS

 

[Crepidodera fulvicornis]

Oh noes, evul surgeon wants her to eat less and she simply can’t do that because reasons. Better go another two fucking years with melted fat sacks on your chest than stop drinking soda and maybe cut snacks in half.
Boo fucking hoo.

 

[behindyourightnow]

Gee golly, if only someone could have predicted that since testosterone increases cartilage growth, strokes and heart attacks would be more common. Leaping lizards! It's like this nightmarish existence could have been prevented! Oh well, let's keep injecting teen girls with this poison.

As the people in that Neurology article said, it might be linked to erythrocytosis, which seems to occur in about 10% of FtMs.

Although the study I linked to was performed in the Netherlands, and they say a high BMI is another risk factor. So I assume in the USA the rate is more like 97%.

The funny thing is that estrogen in male troons also increases rates of strokes and blood clots. I think the message here is "stop messing around with sex hormones, you dumb perverts."

A fat TIF gets a surgery meant for girls with small tits. Then gets upset when her result doesn't look good.

Spoiler: Deflated tits

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For those who don't know, peri-surgery is done by cutting your nipples off, taking the fat and other shit out through the holes and sewing the nipples back on. Even a retard would know to not to get that surgey if they have big tits.

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Literally looks like someone popped two balloons and stuck them on her chest. Imagine being a surgeon finishing up a job like that and thinking "looks great, send her into recovery!"

(I kid, I know the type of surgeon doing this kind of "gender affirming care" is too busy thinking about what color sports car they are going to buy next. That's if they haven't wandered out of the OR to do some lines of coke in the bathroom)

The best part is the obviously feminine hips sticking out at the bottom of the photo.

 

[monstrous bubo]

Oh noes, evul surgeon wants her to eat less and she simply can’t do that because reasons. Better go another two fucking years with melted fat sacks on your chest than stop drinking soda and maybe cut snacks in half.
Boo fucking hoo.

It’s brilliant - to get one form of self-harm, she has to give up another. Dropping the weight, getting her euphoric surgery, and then eating herself to death is the sort of delayed gratification she hitherto has failed at.

 

[Thomas Eugene Paris]

You're probably not wrong, but someone can go to bed early with a headache, and if it's on a weekend...

Something like this would make sense. People her age are constantly on their phones. I want to think that someone would have noticed that she went to bed early on Friday night and they didn't hear from her on Saturday. I guess by the time they realized it could be something really horrible it might have been hours since the onset of ischemia. More time could have been wasted trying to check on her or contacting her parents instead of just calling 911. How horrible.

You're never too young for an advanced directive, but please do keep in mind that "locked in syndrome" caused by a stroke is extremely, extremely rare. In someone 23 years old without an underlying condition, it's like a lightning strike of bad luck. It almost certainly won't happen to you. Don't smoke, don't eat absolute trash all the time, maintain a healthy weight, and see your doctor at least annually. If you have diabetes, make sure it's under control. The bad news for this unfortunate pooner is that at 23, her other organs were probably in pretty good shape, so even though she had a big stroke in a bad spot, if she was breathing independently, she may not have been able to die completely even if heroic measures were withheld. It's pretty crazy how much the human body can withstand before it dies all the way.

Spoiler: Pontine infarction sperg

A basilar artery thrombosis is a particularly devastating kind of stroke because the affected artery supplies oxygenated blood to crucial, highly conserved regions of the brain, including the pons. Basilar artery thrombosis is itself very rare, accounting for <1% of all strokes. The paper mentions that this pooner had "a large bilateral ischemic infarct of the pons", which is consistent with complete occlusion of the basilar artery and explains all of her symptoms. The pons is the part of the brain stem that connects the medulla oblongata to the thalamus. It's an ancient structure, highly conserved across species, and it regulates essential functions like respiration, sleep, and heart rate. No part of the brain is "good" when it comes to an infarct, especially a large bilateral one, but you'd be hard pressed to find a worse region to damage than the pons. Acute basilar artery branch occlusion can cause a set of waxing and waning signs called the pontine warning syndrome. The patient experiences fluctuating or progressive indications of reduced blood flow to the pons. These signs come and go over the course of hours or days as the smaller branches of the basilar artery are intermittently occluded. The pontine warning syndrome is considered an imminent sign of basilar artery stroke. Eventually, no blood at all can flow to the vascular territory of the affected artery, causing pontine infarction.

The overall mortality rate of stroke in the pons, whether hemorrhagic or ischemic, approaches 95%. In most cases, when someone survives an event that kills 95% of others, we exclaim over their fantastic luck. Somehow, in this case, it's really hard for me to say this pooner is lucky to be alive, and that's not even because I'm a troon génocidaire.

Grim.

Spoiler: Public Service Announcement

If you or someone close to you experiences symptoms of a stroke, even if they appear to go away on their own, remember that time is brain. Seek medical attention without delay to limit the possibility of permanent, debilitating brain damage. The acronym FAST can help you identify the signs of a stroke. In addition to these, loss of balance and vision changes such as sudden loss of vision in one eye or diplopia (double vision) are also potential symptoms.

Do they take the staples or something, or are there just staples in the intestine forever? It sounds so painful.

They just leave them in there. The staples themselves don't usually cause pain, although I'm pretty sure there are some reviews suggesting that stapled anastomoses have a greater risk of developing adhesions.

 

[Tard Whisperer]

Pooners venting about Crane Center:
my experience with the crane center (a drama post... sorry it has just been way too much) (self.phallo) by kzzie97
wasn't on T, the website advertised that they didn't need to be on T but was an "egregious typo", so she got on T so she could get the surgery with them anyway

I started the process in 2021, quickly choosing them mainly for one reason - at that point I'd been 9 years post-top surgery but not on hormones. Their website at the time said something to the effect of 'although HRT is not required for phalloplasty...' and that was the only go-ahead from a surgical center I'd ever seen regarding pursuing phallo without HRT. I had already had my consult with them and started getting my letters when I tried to confirm this with Austin's coordinator Judah... (two months into the process of scheduling) and at that point he said that line in the website was an 'egregious typo' (this has always bothered me... I don't think blatant misinformation can be classified as a 'typo') but I was two months into the process as I said and so desperate to push forward with the surgery I just started T and scheduled the surgery for about one year after the start date.

painful medical mistakes at the hospital

At my stay in the hospital two mistakes were made, one being putting in my catheter incorrectly which resulted in Dr Santucci needing to pump blood clots out of my bladder while I was fully awake and aware... the other being one of the nurses forgetting to numb me while they cleaned the graft site... mistakes happen in hospitals I guess, I can accept honest things like this but put together with the way I've been treated besides this it's too much.

this dumb ass pooner let her insurance expire during phalloplasty recovery lmfao.

I had lipo scheduled for 6 months after my initial surgery since I had ALT, by that time I was going to be off of my dad's insurance since my 26th birthday would pass during the waiting time. I don't live in the US and insurance didn't cover liposuction, I was quoted from Crane something like ~8000 all inclusive which is expensive, but I would've had to reach my ~6500 out of pocket maximum getting it covered anyway so instead of requesting 'temporary extension of coverage' with my dad's insurance I just let my policy terminate ... (yes, I know this was stupid and this part is my fault) my issue with the Crane Center here is that they emailed me two months before procedure telling me that my insurance contacted them and told them I was losing coverage. This was all they told me. I later found out that in the same letter my insurance also notified them that my lipo procedure was covered (!) which I knew on my insurance was explicitly excluded from the policy... Dr Santucci told me later he negotiated with them, but I had had no idea at the time that they were even trying to get my surgery covered and I don't know why they didn't tell me when they got the letter.

then she developed a stricture, they threaten to cancel the surgery to repair it if she doesn't pay

Another mistake on the website, it used to say 'we will inform you of your insurance's decision as soon as we find out.' I had to take this up to the CEO just to get an apology for this (and for the website's language to be changed). The big problem for me was that 1) I'd developed a stricture in that time, so the total price was double the initial quote, so the price had suddenly gotten really bad but... I couldn't really do anything, and I recognised my fault in dropping my insurance. but also 2) When they resumbitted my quote they didn't give me the correct amount either, they misquoted me about 3000 dollars for the anesthesia cost and I wasn't informed of the full cost until about 10 days before the surgery. The very first time I heard about the extra 3000 (for clarity, this wasn't an additional cost that's always added on later, they had told me the full quote 'including anesthesia and operating room fees' and I had paid it all by that point) I was already threatened with cancellation of surgery if I didn't come up with the extra 3000 in... I think it was a timeframe of 4 days.

I asked just to negotiate the anesthesia fee down since they misquoted me but there was nothing they could do. At that point all I really wanted was an apology because I could have had this surgery for 1/4 of the cost if they had communicated this info with me before the grace period with my insurance had ended. By the time I got to my pre-op appointment as I said I'd paid everything but the surprise amount of 3K, and they brought in Thomas, the head of billing, to threaten me with cancellation of surgery if I didn't pay it. I kept telling him of course I didn't want to cancel the surgery and I was going to pay it, I just wanted them to accept responsibility for poor communication and even more importantly billing me incorrectly.

the stricture repair failed, she is in the ER twice this week unable to pee and in pain. but she is more upset that someone answering the phone was rude to her.

Anyway, the stricture repair totally failed and I'm not going back to the Crane Center. I'm having surgery abroad soon to hopefully get this fixed, but just two days ago I was in the ER completely having lost the ability to pee and in so much pain. I ended up communicating with someone else from the Crane Center, Alex, who called from the San Francisco office. Unfortunately today I'm back in the ER with the same problem, Alex had told me to call if I ever need to go to the emergency room again because the staff hadn't dealt with a phallo patient before and ended up causing a lot of damage and inflammation trying to place a foley before they finally contacted Alex and he told them what they needed to do. I emailed Alex, but I ended up needing to rush here before he got the chance to read my email so I called the same number his voicemail came from, someone named Valentina answered and I asked for Alex... I'm in the ER so I guess it's loud and she asked me to repeat myself, I repeated that I was asking for Alex and she said 'Alex who?' I had to check my email for his full name but it took under 30 seconds. When I called back she immediately said they don't take prank calls. Totally not expecting that I was just like 'huh?' and she said 'I heard someone laughing.'

she doesn't regret phallo of course, but does regret going to crane center.

I guess maybe a trans clinic might get aggressive calls from time to time, but to get that kind of response when you're scared, in pain and all I wanted was for someone to tell me what to say to the staff here because I can't explain it in a way to make them understand (like I said, they accidentally hurt me last time)... I don't regret phallo at all, but I can confidently say choosing the Crane Center was the worst decision of my life.
This is more of a vent post than something for people to actually read, since I guess most people won't relate to the specifics of having issues because you won't take hormones, dropping your insurance because you're stupid (lol), and getting surgery in the US even though you don't live there, but if anyone's read this far, I wish that someone had warned me to stay away from this center, I know it sounds dramatic but god the past two years have ruined my life.
Thanks for reading

she also had to beg them for her send a prescription to a pharmacy near her

lol i also remembered that after my second surgery they sent my prescription to the wrong place, a place i had never noted as my pharmacy (and id already had one surgery with them so they had my pharmacy on file...) and when i asked them to change it to my actual pharmacy (very important meds, namely the antibiotics that needed to be taken when i pulled the catheter) they said 'no, we cant do that'

and it took me two days of explaining i cant physically reach the pharmacy it was sent to until i could start my antibiotics...
i was afraid of posting this here because i felt all the mistakes theyve made just toward me seem too far-fetched, like everything that possibly could go wrong has gone wrong. thank you for sharing your experience too... my case doesnt seem to be an exception anymore

a commenter validates that a surgeon at Crane told her their website puts some incorrect information for marketing purpose

I had always viewed them as the most reputable and trusted phalloplasty center and thought they were going to be my first choice. I ended up having a strange experience with them. I don’t feel comfortable going into detail but the surgeon admitted to me that some website information about their surgical experience was intentionally incorrect for marketing purposes. This made no sense to me and I asked for clarification but the surgeon was clearly uncomfortable discussing it, only repeating the correct information contrary to what the website clearly stated, and would only repeat that the discrepancy is only for marketing reasons only. That whole thing made me very concerned.

another commenter shares her story about having an infected abscess burst 6 days after phallo, bleeding continuously, and having to beg them to see her that day. then when she went in she says they mishandled the treatment which she has been dealing with for over a year (+ more...)

I have seconded this sentiment many times. The amount of unprofessionalism and illegitimacy I’ve had to deal with there has shocked and appalled me - most especially, their complete inability to competently communicate. With each other, the patient, everyone.
And their main secretary (really want to say her name but won’t) completely gatekeeps calls, does not follow through on anything, and will not even have other drs phone calls returned. They have the most insanely ridiculous setup of any legitimate Dr office I have ever seen or heard of in always immediately transferring all clinical concerns from patients, no matter how urgent, to a voicemail box, which they usually don’t return your call from. I literally had to threaten this chick while I was bleeding through 7 ABD pads when a huge infected abscess burst, that if she didn’t put me through to a person immediately, I was going back to The Hospital ER right then. THEN, they tried to have someone else on the phone to SCHEDULE the appointment for later in the week! THEN they tried to have me send photos to their freaking email. This was 6 days post-op. Are you freaking kidding me? Um, No, I need medical attention right f****** now and I was literally 12 minutes away from their office, at the time. Im not going to send photos from my crappy phone. That’s ridiculous. I had to yell to get someone else on the phone who eventually said I could just come in and they would help me. And all this fighting while I’m in extreme pain and covered in infection. I still have to fight every freaking time I call to speak with an actual person about medical concerns. But it got worse from there.
The Dr happened to be in surgery that day so I ended up seeing a PA. It was not handled correctly for my specific situation, because he did not bother to check anything about my chart and circumstances of my surgery before taking action. I believe this hugely contributed to the complete and instant undoing of the fistula repair portion of that surgery, which was already the Dr’s second attempt at it. Instead of properly draining or treating the wound, as the ER would have done, the PA very forcefully pushed all the infection out through the fistula area. This is not where it burst out from. It burst from the side. Yes the infection needed to come out. But not like that, through that area. The same area I have been having to deal with the original consequences of for a year and a half, and now counting. And I was in way too extreme of pain at the time to question or stop him, in the moment. Plus, it was in an area I cannot see myself without a mirror.
I ended up seeing the Dr a few days later, where we talked about what happened and what the PA had done. Then I saw the Dr two or three times more after that, before leaving Austin. The last visit, when I tried to voice my general concerns while I was still able to do it in person, the Dr claimed he had no idea what the PA had actually done to me in his office, that day of the burst abscess/major infection. HOW DO YOU HAVE NO IDEA how I have been treated in your own office, over only the course of a few weeks?? Not only did I tell you myself, but did the PA not say anything? Was nothing in my chart at all, about what happened that day? Did he even review anything about me, at all?
I was also prescribed a pain med I had always been allergic to and only caught it before I actually took it because my mom is a retired RN and knew what the equivalent name was. She happened to be with me at the time. Then, when I contacted the dr for the correct med, he repeated 3 times to me (including in a text and in person) that percoset was not the same as oxycodone, saying that “eons ago back at Stage 1, someone had mistakenly put that you’re allergic to percoset, so that’s why I prescribed you oxycodone.” That would be because I AM allergic to percoset (oxy) which has always also been the reason why YOU’VE always prescribed Hydrocodone. I finally nicely corrected him. Too nicely.
I’ve tried to explain directly to the dr and PAs, that I want to have confidence in my care with them and so many things are adding up to me completely losing confidence in them. I was told “it’s just my anxiety; I can’t help your anxiety.” Yes you absolutely can - by being a real drs office, actually listening to your patients, and treating them respectfully, competently, and timely.
I have much much more I could go on about but will stop there. It has just become completely mental of an experience. You are not alone in your frustration and disillusionment, OP! I’m still dealing with the after effects too. I hope we both reach the end of the tunnel soon!

very masculine Austin resident says she has heard bad stories from employees

I'm so sorry for all you've gone through OP Please know you're not alone in experiencing horrible things with them and their process/communication/billing. I live in Austin and have heard quite a few negative stories from both employees and patients there, enough to make me travel out of town for my surgery. Not able to go into detail as they're not my stories to tell (and i likewise believe those who report they've had great experiences there too), but unfortunately i feel like it's too much of a roll of the dice for what we all deserve. hoping your next surgical team is able to treat you with all the compassion, respect, and professionalism you deserve

another commenter had posted her own long post a year ago about her experience at Crane, she only regrets that she didn't get a "positive experience" of phallo
my ongoing experience with Crane Center CA (self.phallo) by c3ill

This is a post I was hoping not to have to make. Partially a vent, but partially a warning too. I had my surgery on November 29th for reference.
If you are looking for competent medical care, especially if you are out of state, I unfortunately gotta say Crane Center CA is not a good option. From day one it's been a bit of a shitshow to deal with them, and while the team was kind and I'm feeling content with the appearance of my "new buddy", I also feel somewhat like what was supposed to be a net positive experience was made so unnecessarily harrowing. It feels like something that was supposed to be "good" was taken from me.
CPMC Davies (the local hospital) was woefully understaffed, and the staff they did have were inflexible, did not listen, and actively made several of my other conditions worse while under their care (I have lung issues and diabetes. Night staff was great, day staff not so much). They lost my extremely expensive and necessary lung disease medications and my insulin medication and when pressed for answers, just said "yeah this happens sometimes". It was a struggle to get them back and it left me without insulin for days in a town several states away from my own. I do recognize that CPMC does not reflect onto the Crane Center; it is just a part of the experience if this is the location chosen for surgery, so I thought it worth mentioning.
A week out of the hospital, I complained of pains that later turned out to be a severe uti--severe enough that i couldn't move enough to get to a car to the hospital. Had to call an ambulance to come move me. I was told of the risk of uti's before surgery, and the symptoms I complained to the surgical team about were hallmark uti symptoms. Still, nothing was done until I hit the emergency room. Then, I was prescribed an ineffective antibiotic, which they only told me "wasn't going to work" until after I left the state to go home at the end of November.
This uti and the inability to effectively treat it left me with bladder stones. By the time I got back home, I was bedridden and unable to move from December to March. I became incontinent, was in excruciating pain from the SP cath it took them six weeks to even consider changing (they should be swapped for a new cath at 4 weeks minimum, as I was told by my urologist back home).
I have been home for a while now, and trying to get communication back from the office is like pulling teeth. I still have bladder stones trapped near the site of my fistula. I can feel them, and they're keeping me from doing many things because I can still feel them moving/pinching. I've been calling, emailing, weekly--anyone I can talk to, begging them to give me an update on whether the surgeon has spoken to my urologist about a local repair surgery so I can finally move on with my life. It's been months, and I found out a week ago that I would have to be the one to get and deliver the imaging results the team needs, because they cannot get ahold of them somehow. They have been told the right departments to go through. I called and got these images within a day, and sent them.
It has been two weeks with radio silence, and my surgeon leaves the practice in 9 days. I am angry, in pain, sad, a whole multitude. I never expected this procedure to be easy, of course. But I didn't expect it to be this unnecessarily difficult either. Sorry if this post reads as more emotional than factual. Again, I just feel like a net positive experience has been stolen from me by incompetent and unhelpful staff.
It's been rough lately. ):

Another smell post. This time by a TiF.

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This smelly pooner was also a Crane Center patient, and posted several update about trying to get Dr. Jun to agree to not surgically alter her "tdick". She had to get Crane to explain the process to him, but still was getting pushback. Despite realizing her surgeons were uninformed about the surgery she went through with it and has tons of fun ahead of her!

burial confusion? anatomy terms below (self.phallo)
submitted 9 days ago by necropocene

mildly panicking about this so dont mind my wording or run ons!
I had my pre-op appointment today and it went well (im getting shaft only phallo with a nerve hookup for reference) and when dr jun was doing an exam at the very end i had a bit of a panic?
So he was explaining how even though I'm not getting burial, he still needs to deglove the tdick shaft to get at one of the nerves then scrunch the rest together at my base (of the new dick). I was like "oh, i dont like that actually can you not alter how it is?" and he said "well it might be possible if I take a bit higher from the area I'm prepping for the placement of the penis, however the nerves are tucked under the pelvic bone so this is the only way I can get to them but I can try to put things back where they were." So I stressed how I didn't want that area to be messed with in general and he said he'd do his best because he has more time bc no vaginectomy or ul, but it felt off.
I Swear ive seen post op photos of folks who had nerve hookups, no burial, and they didnt express or show any signs of external surgical changes to their natal genitals/tdick/what have you. But now I have a surgeon telling me he Has to cut into the shaft skin at least in some way to get to nerves.
Is this bogus? Am I panicking over nothing? My surgery is this Friday and this is the first he mentioned this in regards to me saying I don't want burial, especially when I implied I Don't want any alterations down there in that way.

micro update to jun non-burial and nerve hookup confusion (anatomy terms cw) (self.phallo)
submitted 8 days ago by necropocene

I was able to get ahold of dr crane and he called me from his cell to say that jun Is incorrect and that he had a few options for me. Because I'm not doing UL, there isn't anything stopping the penis itself to be slightly higher to spare clitoral hood skin and not damage its blood supply. He said because it isn't done as often, it's possible Jun hasn't had a patient request this before and was misunderstood. He said to send him some pics of ideally how much skin i want to remain uneffected, and he was going to call jun to talk him through the nerve hookup process he would do. Crane said this would most likely clear everything up for friday, but if i still felt uncomfortable he was understanding and suggested i could reschedule with a new urologist who will be joining the SF location soon, or reschedule to have surgery with him in Austin.
SO my absolute nightmare is looking slightly more positive. Crane promised he could get the convo going today and hopefully be able to get back to me before the end of the day as well. I'm tentatively optimistic because even if I cancel, I know I have very clear rescheduling options. Thanks to everyone from my previous post validating my concerns and I'll update again once Crane gets back to me.

micro update conclusion! jun non burial nerve hookup confusion (self.phallo)
submitted 8 days ago by necropocene

crane just got back to me (called but realized texas its like after 8pm so he texted back instead) and said he was able to talk to dr jun and he understands what I want so I'm good to go for friday. So he can do a nerve hookup without messing with my tdick at all which is what i wanted. Now maybe he'll explain or say something weird when i get to the hospital but i have a feeling crane was very to the point about my preferences and there shouldn't be any problem

another fun (sarcastic) nerve hookup update (self.phallo)
submitted 7 days ago by necropocene

so lee called me on the phone talking about the clitoral nerve dissection type of deal and kept acting like i was unclear about what i wanted, so i said like i dont want my tdick messed with at all, i want it left alone, because i dont know how much clearer i can be. i also referenced talking to crane and he kept saying crane wont be there, and it felt like whatever crane said was either not effective or didnt make sense to them?
so then lee says they can use the ilioingual nerve, which wouldnt mess with my tdick at all, but "sensation wont be as good". Im just so exhausted, but at this point im Assuming this is the nerve folks who are unburied were using? is there no other way to branch one of the clitoral nerves besides opening up the tdick to get to it?
if iliongual is what a lot of folks who report good sensation got, then im fine with that, because i dont trust that i'll have only a "small unnoticable change" when they first described needing to remove basically all of the hood skin
im just so frustrated again and dont know what to do, they said i sounded confused and if im still confused tomorrow they'd cancel which would be for the best if this shit keeps going

v sleepy but know ive left the group hanging! by necropocene

tldr: got phallo friday and everything went great! while ive been annoyed with some of my surgeon's bedside manner, things are going ok
shaft only phallo, so nerve hookup and dick creation but no ul, scroto, nor vaginectomy. planning for glans stage 2 and then pump ed stage 3, first pic is from friday, last two are today
if u were following my posts, communication with my docs has been a nightmare however despite the miscommunication chaos, my tdick is untouched (but i have understandable swelling in general) and my new dick looks great. Bloodflow has been super solid and i havent had too much pain, mostly aching and stings + bedrest nightmare sweat. the nurses are all great and have been helping me stay clean, im getting more dick compliments than i thought i would this early on. i love the coloration i already have + freckles
it will get better from here on out, my leg is very soupy and I'm not being allowed to air it out to scab yet, and im gonna have the wound vac on an additional 5 days most likely bc of my integra (not that brand but similar item) + split thickness graft to make sure everything adheres
anyways thank u to everyone who helped me to get the confidence to advocate for my needs, its helped me be more confident and clear in hospital as well, and will be very useful moving forward. im not sure i will return to jun for my glans, i may shop around and see what surgeons waits are for the smaller procedure

 

[Procrastinhater]

Imagine being a surgeon finishing up a job like that and thinking "looks great, send her into recovery!"

Wasn't this guy by any chance?


Also that thing where they didn't want to breakdown the amounts of surgeries by ages for 18 and under - if they won't even publish the seperate figures you know its bad.

 

[Autistic Joe]

> is there no other way to branch one of the clitoral nerves besides opening up the tdick to get to it?

Jesus Christ these people think it's like running a circuit to install a ceiling fan. "Can't we just put a junction box here and run the switch off of that?"

> got phallo friday and everything went great

Phallo Phriday sounds like a new weekly event over at Something Awful.

 

[Poop Shoot]

Half of me feels bad because I don’t believe people can give informed consent when there’s practically a conspiracy to hide the severity and frequency of life-altering complications. Pooners are protecting these butchers whether they want to admit it or not.

The other half of me is so glad the People Of Gender usually don’t have kids and ruin their fertility. So there’s that, I suppose.

 

[Procrastinhater]

Jesus Christ these people think it's like running a circuit to install a ceiling fan. "Can't we just put a junction box here and run the switch off of that?"

I can't even picture what this Pooner is wanting, phallo but no UL, no Vnectomy, and she doesn't want her gross "tdick" messing with, so she's gonna have a rotdog that she can't piss through (so no strictures and stuff I guess) keep her vagina, and have a horrific vile Hyena clit dangling under the 'dog?
Fucking lol she sounds like something Judge Dredd would encounter in the Cursed Earth.
Mutant Pooners.

Half of me feels bad because I don’t believe people can give informed consent when there’s practically a conspiracy to hide the severity and frequency of life-altering complications. Pooners are protecting these butchers whether they want to admit it or not.

The other half of me is so glad the People Of Gender usually don’t have kids and ruin their fertility. So there’s that, I suppose.

I think anyone insane enough to consent to this fucking shit after knowing what it entails and the sheer amount of complications is too touched in the head to be able to consent, personally.
A sane person wouldn't subject themselves to this literal Unit 731 medical abomination.

 

[Poop Shoot]

A sane person wouldn't subject themselves to this literal Unit 731 medical abomination.

No doubt. But these people are broken and their family and the medical system is failing them. They don’t need a flesh sock and chest hair, they need treatment for their autism and bpd.

They’re still retarded though and that’s why I only feel half bad. Imagine being so deluded that you ruin your ability to pee for the rest of your life and telling other vulnerable women “I WoUlDn’T ChAnGe a ThInG”. Coming from the doctors it’s bad enough, but to put yourself through that shit and try to drag others down with you is absolutely fucking evil.

But for those girls who yeet their tits at 14, I’m gonna always feel some pity for them.

Christ I can’t spell for shit today

 

[TRAZkek]

I was looking at the R/Phalloplasty subreddit (which is the kind of FtM surgery you hear about where they overuse skingrafts and patients don't get the correct care afterwards, leaving them weak and sometimes unable to move for weeks) And got into an argument with some of the freakoids about how none of their pseudo "penises" look real. I was downvoted to all hell for just speaking the objective truth. Seriously some of these post surgery photos look like a forearm was glued to someones genitals. It's hard not to think of the movie Tusk.

 

[Procrastinhater]

I was looking at the R/Phalloplasty subreddit (which is the kind of FtM surgery you hear about where they overuse skingrafts and patients don't get the correct care afterwards, leaving them weak and sometimes unable to move for weeks) And got into an argument with some of the freakoids about how none of their pseudo "penises" look real. I was downvoted to all hell for just speaking the objective truth. Seriously some of these post surgery photos look like a forearm was glued to someones genitals. It's hard not to think of the movie Tusk.

Welcome to the Farms!
Yeah theres some truly messed up examples of their surgerys on this very thread, it's human experimentation and neutering the mentally ill disguised as "life affirming care" that causes life long medical problems. Its entirely driven by profit, look at the amount of money the gender pharm industry makes every year. These Pooners and Troons are just pay pigs for amoral butchers and Big Pharma.

 

[TRAZkek]

Welcome to the Farms!
Yeah theres some truly messed up examples of their surgerys on this very thread, it's human experimentation and neutering the mentally ill disguised as "life affirming care" that causes life long medical problems. Its entirely driven by profit, look at the amount of money the gender pharm industry makes every year. These Pooners and Troons are just pay pigs for amoral butchers and Big Pharma.

Thanks for the welcome
Yeah I browse a lot of trans communities out of pure curiosity, some of them super blackpilled and others super neo-liberal super fags that think the world revolves around them. The libs keep spreading the idea that GRS is "Life saving" and pedaling that idea to minors, which is really unsettling. I think some trannys have good intentions, thinking they are helping trans kids find safety, while others have a sick fetish for estrogenized boys.

 

[Ann Berlin]

Pooners venting about Crane Center:

I mean fuck pooners but fuck these butchers too. I know a lot of medical staff have to be a little bit unempathetic to survive but come on.

 

[Friend of Dorothy Parker]

With the ones who get RFF, they all seem to revel in getting the arm scar. Like it was some kind of badge of honor; a battle wound. A "trans rite" as Exulansic would say.

Anyone familiar with the "narcissist's prayer"?- this one:

That didn’t happen.
And if it did, it wasn’t that bad.
And if it was, that’s not a big deal.
And if it is, that’s not my fault.
And if it was, I didn’t mean it.
And if I did, you deserved it.

It's a classic example of a narc's manipulative twisting and recasting of reality in order to avoid responsibility.

Reading these girls' utterly batshit commitment to making every horrible thing they do to themselves into "I meant to do that and in fact it's even better" reads just like this "prayer." Cheerful delusion and complete upside-down clown world - all self-manipulating.

A pooner's prayer
Ode to my dick

My phallo operation(s) went perfectly, I have a huge and manly dick that works perfectly, and my girlfriend loves it when I rail her with my massive, hard pole.

And if I can't get hard because my erector set burst through the tip of my dick and had to be removed: my partner and I totally bond while MacGyver'ing my dick with this manly qtip & bandage setup I thought up, and I love decorating the bandages with really cool flowers and am totally squee! psyched to be getting back to my art and in fact was just decorating my bullet journals for the next 8 years, oops, tangent!

And if my partner is gets a nasty infection from our totally satisfying contraption, and grows so dissatisfied with our relationship she leaves me: being alone independent is the manliest way to be, just me & my dick doing manly things like standing to pee.

And if I can't stand to pee because the urethral work went wrong and I dribble out pee and various colorful semi-liquids through a fistula my front-front hole on the underside of my split-open dick 24 hours a day: it's pretty fucking manly to wear dude pads panty liners diapers, and it's actually a super-stud move being double-stealth - first, because I super-pass, and second, because no one can even tell I'm oozing smelly fluids, which, when you think about it, is pretty much like jizzing all the time, so I'm basically like 20 times manlier than dumb cismen.

And if it doesn't actually feel like an orgasm and people actually can tell, because I smell like piss and rot, and so no one wants to be near me, including my (now former) co-workers: I never really liked people (and jobs are for cucks), and I love all this free time for doing independent, manly things like wanking all day like my (former) bros do, when I'm not screaming in pain.

And if I can't wank because necrosis takes hold and my dick falls off, which is a totally normal thing, everyone knows that: I'll just get another one put on, it's totally normal.

And if I can't get another one put on because I have nowhere else to get a graft: unburial of my clit natal dick and metioid is actually hotter and more manly (plus most girls love pinky-toe dicks!).

And if there is no more clit natal dick to unbury because it's all just deep scar tissue now from the emergency surgery when my first dick fell off: my manly scars on my arms, legs, stomach and (former) genital area give me so much euphoria.

And if I don't get euphoria from staring at all my scars, but instead spend my days crying and trying not to move so nothing else tears apart: it's actually better to be dead inside, because real men don't have emotions (and do have limited movement and constant pain).

I love being a man. No ragrets.

 

[Geranium]

A pooner's prayer
Ode to my dick

Rated but in my heart also

 

[Crepidodera fulvicornis]

I can't even picture what this Pooner is wanting, phallo but no UL, no Vnectomy, and she doesn't want her gross "tdick" messing with, so she's gonna have a rotdog that she can't piss through (so no strictures and stuff I guess) keep her vagina, and have a horrific vile Hyena clit dangling under the 'dog?

I’m pretty sure we already have one with such infrastructure, *u/bonusdickboi or something like that.

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Yup, found her here