Megathread SRS and GRS surgeons and associated horrors - the medical community of experimental surgeons, the secret community of home butchers

That poor, poor kid. Sophie has done well to put her (and I will call her that, this is not a case of troonism) life absolutely destroyed by surgeons playing god.
This is not supposed to happen any more. Any kind of ambiguity or genital defect is supposed to be left until the sex of the baby is established. In the uk you need to register a birth within a set time but you can get an extension in such cases, to allow full genetic work to be done. ONLY immediate life saving work can be done - and a bladder prolapsing outside the body would be something that needs immediate work but the testes and penis should be left. You basically just need to make sure the baby can urinate and defecate safely.
I very much feel for Sophie. If I was her I think I might have gone and shown the surgeons the other end of the scalpel. Monsters
I watched a documentary years ago where an intersex woman was trying to come to terms with surgery she'd had when she was a teenager. She was born appearing female, but when she hit puberty, hidden testicles started to descend. The doctor's advice was to have the testicles removed without telling the girl what the operation was for. In later years, the now adult woman tried to come to grips with it, but her mother refused to apologise, saying that she'd only done what the doctors had told her to do.

In Sophie's case, as the article said, the microsurgery that such a case would receive today just didn't exist. The surgeon was following accepted best practice at the time. It's an insanely difficult position to be put in. 'Female' genitalia is much easier to construct than 'male'. I really feel for Sophie, but medical technology wasn't that great forty years ago.
 
Do you mean the princess Zelda or Zelda as in how every 3rd person thought link was Zelda?
Pet Sematery Zelda:
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Tranny posts about how SRS ruined his life. u/actually_not_evil
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Lol, a commenter tells him this is just female sexuality
True_Ad_824 I am not sure as unsatisfied as you are that I would include you in the 80%. Remember 20% is a huge number and this is not only piv but all types of vaginoplasty. More importantly Remember female arousal and orgasm is very different from male arousal and orgasm. It is much more difficult and involved. It requires a loving patient partner able to learn your body and how to please you. Masturbation is also very different and more difficult and time consuming. Mood, mental state, setting, sensory inputs are different. It can be daunting to learn a whole new side of human sexuality.

Regarding Sophie, for anyone not reading till the end. Truly horrifying:
“Your question around vaginal construction, aftercare and risks resonated with me. I was given a pseudo vagina at 2 days old which failed. It prolapsed a few weeks later and the surgeons placed it “back into the body to be reabsorbed”. I was then told I never had one... one was NOT present.

“However, when I presented in 2021 with a 25 cm mass in my abdomen, one of the leading theories was that this could be the very failed pseudo vagina inside that had been left to rot unattached for 37 years. I didn’t stick around long enough in the NHS investigations to get to the bottom of it because there is no trust.

“The craziest thing is that they left me with no vagina for all my life - and then you eventually find out there is one and it’s the cause of all of your health issues and sepsis!

“It was a nuts idea with zero follow-up and very little thought. The support available from the NHS has been zilch. I’ve had more support from the bin man. I have digressed, apologies!
their medical experimentation resulted in her having to wear incontinence pads as a child:
Sophie described: “Hey Norman - thanks for your question! My earliest memories of knowing something wasn’t quite right was when I was in primary school. It was the first time I truly realised that I had to wear incontinence pads and other kids didn’t. As for gender and stuff, up to age 11 I just felt like one of the other kids!
NHS will not comment but she has heard these practices are still going on:
“Your question about what doctors would do for a similar baby today is a question I have been trying to get the NHS to answer for a very long time. I even made a large complaint to the trust around my case asking for them to inform me of current pathways.

“Unsurprisingly, nobody wanted to talk and the response to my complaint could have fitted on the back of a fag packet.

“It’s time to shine some light on this situation and in my opinion for the NHS to speak. If there’s nothing to hide, then they should be happy to set the record straight.

“Sadly, I have heard on good account that these practices are still very much going on. Despite the fact John Money is long dead and the world realised what a terrible idea these surgeries were after the Reimer case many decades ago.”
 
oh my fucking god
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Not to bad so far the swelling has gone down a lot. Or atleast it's not nearly as solid as it once was. Sort of feeling like your balls are going crinkly.
My packing and catholic came out yesterday and this is my 2nd day of dilation (I just finished washing up from a session actually) and yeah I think my regimen has been helping a lot 😅
Still gotta ice a Lil, put on some polysporin, aquaphore and then I get to wear panties (which I think have been acting as a compression garmet low key)

I'm really liking the look. So far.

First post I made from him is this on monday.
Pervert eunuchs himself.
There are no downsides to this situation.
 
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oh my fucking god
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Not to bad so far the swelling has gone down a lot. Or atleast it's not nearly as solid as it once was. Sort of feeling like your balls are going crinkly.
My packing and catholic came out yesterday and this is my 2nd day of dilation (I just finished washing up from a session actually) and yeah I think my regimen has been helping a lot 😅
Still gotta ice a Lil, put on some polysporin, aquaphore and then I get to wear panties (which I think have been acting as a compression garmet low key)

I'm really liking the look. So far.

First post I made from him is this on monday.
Who the fuck agreed to operate on this hog.
 
‘So if I’m in a place of pain, it makes no difference if they give me bollocks and a dick because I’m still in a place of pain – and I think, well if I go and put on another suit, would it resolve my pain? No, because I’m still not fully a boy, or fully a girl. So then you have to say, well what am I? I’m a soul, just navigating through this life.’

It's interesting to see the difference in the mental health of someone who was made to be transsexual by others, vs the kind of person who decides for themself that they're transgender.

Acknowledgement of the shit sandwich she was served, but an understanding of reality--or maybe just a hard-won understanding of the limitations of surgery that the troons don't have.
 
The Telegraph wrote a profile about a male who was forcibly turned into a girl as a baby by a doctor who was following John Money's research:
Amazing post. Thats just beyond tragic and horrific, imagine being trooned out as a baby against you will.
Poor bastard.
She seems to be really well adjusted considering the shit that was done to her.
Strong person. I know adversity either builds character or makes monsters and it looks like she's come through this shit fairly wise and grounded.
John Money was and evil piece of shit and a pedophile and if there is a Hell he is screaming in it now, in whichever level it is reserved for Pedophiles, Insurance Salesmen, and people who talk loudly at the theater.
Sadistic fucking monster.
The only pity is poor David Reimer didn't take Money out first before he offed himself.
He should have knocked on Moneys door one night and gone Cartel Style on that bastard.
I thought Reimers case was unique, I didnt realize this atrocity had been inflicted on others.
Jesus Wept.
 
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oh my fucking god
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Not to bad so far the swelling has gone down a lot. Or atleast it's not nearly as solid as it once was. Sort of feeling like your balls are going crinkly.
My packing and catholic came out yesterday and this is my 2nd day of dilation (I just finished washing up from a session actually) and yeah I think my regimen has been helping a lot 😅
Still gotta ice a Lil, put on some polysporin, aquaphore and then I get to wear panties (which I think have been acting as a compression garmet low key)

I'm really liking the look. So far.

First post I made from him is this on monday.
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Because it's not just a cheap disgusting ploy to get straight men to fuck you. Is it?
 
I am feeling genuinely sorry for Sophie, holy shit. I looked up her condition and it is awful to look at, can't imagine the utter panic her parents must have felt when they saw their little baby. I would be frozen in terror.
I've heard of people that were born with ambiguous genitalia that got surgery as babies, but never cared much about the follow up. Are there any more mainstream stories?
Anyway, we learn to trust doctors blindly because they have years of studies and medicine has been around for centuries, so they must know what's better for us, right? I mean, except the butchers here but I personally refuse to call them doctors.
Many forget that the medical field is evolving constantly and many practices of the past aren't done anymore. I don't distrust doctors 100%, but cases like this one, that seems that what was done was something regular of that era, makes me uneasy at times.
She mentioned that she stopped taking hormones. Since she has no testes too, is her body functioning with 0 sex hormones? How does it work?
I hope Sophie's existence, from now on, is a peaceful one.
 
oh my fucking god
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Not to bad so far the swelling has gone down a lot. Or atleast it's not nearly as solid as it once was. Sort of feeling like your balls are going crinkly.
My packing and catholic came out yesterday and this is my 2nd day of dilation (I just finished washing up from a session actually) and yeah I think my regimen has been helping a lot 😅
Still gotta ice a Lil, put on some polysporin, aquaphore and then I get to wear panties (which I think have been acting as a compression garmet low key)

I'm really liking the look. So far.

First post I made from him is this on monday.
Two things come to mind immediately.

1. I'm guessing that's the first time fatso has ever touched a pussy. He certainly seemed infatuated with it, like he's never felt one before.

2. Did they need a crane to get this lard ass up on the operating table? Or did they just leave him on the ground and dig the stinkditch with a backhoe?
 
Since we're on the topic of intersex people, I did come across this FTM yesterday that claims to be intersex, raised as a girl, and transitioned back to male at 20.
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Hey OP. I’m 32 and was also born intersex. I’m here to talk if you need someone.
I was born in 1990, genetically male but with ambiguous genitalia. They doctors decided to surgically make me female. I grew up as a girl and had to take estrogen starting at 12 y/o. I transitioned to male at age 20, have been on testosterone since then. I know how isolating it can feel to be in a situation like ours, so please send me a message if you want to talk about how you’re feeling
and another comment 3 years ago
I was one of those intersex babies. Biologically male, ambiguous genitalia with herniated testicles. Rather than just removing the herniated testicles, I was surgically made female in 1990, my parents were given no choice. They did remove the testicles, but also made what’s called a neovagina out of a piece of my small intestine, and shaved my penis down to make it function as a clitoris...had to take estrogen HRT at age 12, ended up having horrible gender identity issues and transitioned to male at 20, when I had my breasts and neovagina removed, and began testosterone HRT. Been living as a man for 10 years and haven’t looked back. Thankfully happily married to a wonderful woman, and I’m fairly well-adjusted considering.
She/he seems to identify as trans
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The beard pattern is more male typical and so is the face. I'd say this one's telling the truth compared to most intersex-claimers on reddit.

I guess the small silver lining of the trans movement is that the tiny percentage of young intersex people get to have a larger community and feel more accepted.
Doesn't compare to the massive amounts of the negatives though. 1000 steps back 1 step forward.
 
As opposed to female orgasms, which have no release or definite point in time and are as weak and brittle as his estrogenized bones!

Hon should cheer up and put on a smile - by his own admission he's now more woman than ever 👠💅❤️🏋️‍♀️

The fucker can't admit that he has made himself a useless eunuch, so he pretends that his nullified orgasms are ~womanly~

I know these dudes are incels, but this is ridiculous.

More importantly Remember female arousal and orgasm is very different from male arousal and orgasm. It is much more difficult and involved. It requires a loving patient partner able to learn your body and how to please you. Masturbation is also very different and more difficult and time consuming. Mood, mental state, setting, sensory inputs are different. It can be daunting to learn a whole new side of human sexuality.

Imagine thinking you have magically obtained female sexuality just because a doctor sliced your dick in half and glued it inside you. It couldn't possibly be that half of your genitals ended up in a medical waste bin and the remainder is covered in scar tissue; it's just that you are a delicate female flower and apparently females can't orgasm.
 
I'm guessing that's the first time fatso has ever touched a pussy. He certainly seemed infatuated with it, like he's never felt one before.
Or he touches it because his dick is gone and he has a hard time to comprehend that there is nothing there anymore and it feels weird. Dick butchery causes heavy nerve damage so it could also be that he is nearly or entirely numb.
 
In Sophie's case, as the article said, the microsurgery that such a case would receive today just didn't exist. The surgeon was following accepted best practice at the time.
I’m not sure I’d give them that pass to be honest. Yes, sophisticated microsurgery wasn’t but halfway decent reconstructive was - and they knew Sophie would need constant hormonal treatment to maintain any kind of feminine appearance and function. There’s no female tissue there. Sophie is 46 XY, which is male. This isn’t a case where there’s even a slight ability to fudge it either way, it smacks of experimentation to me.
There was also pressure on the parents. This is the kind of defect that something has to be done about immediately for safety (any bladder or bowel issue like this needs to be patched up or you die or are permanently a mess.) so there would have been no wait and see available.
It’s shocking to hear these cases still happen. What should happen is the minimum needed for safety (imperforate anus or anything like bowel outside the body needs to be fixed) and then WAIT and see what comes back from genetics. Plus examination to see what structures are present. The standard these days should be stabilisation then investigation and waiting. Often waiting to puberty.
I do not give Sophie’s surgeons any kind of benefit here. This was a clear male and they experimented on the child. What possible use is a neovag in a baby?? It would not grow with the child, that kind of thing you wait until growth is done if you have a defect.
I thought Reimers case was unique, I didnt realize this atrocity had been inflicted on others.
Many, many children with DSDs have been experimented upon. It’s an absolute scandal and it’s another reason troons should all be be cast into the pit - they have rolled back a lot of sympathy and accommodation people had for this group with a genuine need.
What’s really obvious when you see these stories is that everyone has a sex one way or the other and forcing the wrong thing pre puberty is profoundly disturbing for the person when they hit puberty and start developing as a sex they didn’t expect to. And it’s inexorable - it can’t be stopped. If they’ve been surgically mutilated that is irreversible. All these children should be stabilised if needed (most don’t have just catastrophic defects but just have ambiguous genitalia) and then left to develop as nature wills it. ONLY once past puberty or after sufficient puberty should any surgery be involved and that only after a whole load of investigation and counselling for them
I hope Sophie gets the NHS pressured to reveal their practices here. It would a huge service she does.
 
Former IV drug user worried that broken needles left in her arm will impact her phallo...

Embarrassing past is going to be brought up - u/OneBlueEyeFish
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I have a phallo consultation coming up very soon and i am beyond stressed out.
Sigh….ok so here it goes. While i was in the closet and finding ways to chip away at my life i got into some heavy drug usage. And it involved IV drug use. My family wasnt happy about and went out of their way to make sure i couldnt get clean needles. No one would sell them to me. So i started reusing needles. A few broke off in my arm. Pretty sure one of them is in the area the RFF phallo graft site is. And i feel i need to tell the surgeon about this because i dont want this causing a complication where i lose my penis. But oh crap i am not sure i have the guts to say any thing once i see the surgeon face to face. I just wish this whole thing from my past would go away. Im scared im the only one to come in to say something like this has happened. Im pissed off my very controlling family put me in this situation in the first place. Be it from controlling me to be something i wasnt. Forcing me on stage to play a roll i just couldnt do any more. To then involve everyone and every pharmacy in the area to not sell me clean needles. Sorry if what im saying is all over the place. Im really scared all of this will ruin my chances to get put in a good spot for the waiting list. But fk! After every thing! Like EVERY THING! Can i not be cut a break? Back then i thought i had no reason to live. I was hopeless and i was surrounded by people happy to watch me and help me die. That all changed when i came out. Ive been sober since 2015. I haven’t craved any thing, not even once. I actually want to live now. But i fear this is going to dampen my progress because i wont be seen the same way by my surgeon. Im so dang scared right now. Am i the only one with a attempted ending of self past? I feel like im the only one that has been carrying a literal piece of it. With no way to predict how the surgeon will react to all of this.
Any words of encouragement or ways to bring this up to my surgeon would be appreciated. My mind is so panicked i cant think of what to say.

Of course, it's all mommy and daddy's fault.
This is the manly man who needs a penis:
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This is how i went out during a pride event. Even won a prize for most spirit. 5 years on T, thanks to genetics im not growing much facial hair. So theres so way for me to ever pass. Thats why ive embraced my feminine qualities🥰 im a man either way.
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A few days ago i got laughed at by some old lady in her car with either her daughter and grand daughter. The old lady got the younger woman to laugh with her, even though i could tell she had been checking me out at first. The thing is, is that i was feeling really good about myself. My hair was rockn and ive been working my buns off just about every day. All of this peak healthy living has been for me and preparation for phalloplasty. I thought i came through this experience unscathed. But i think it shook me a little. Been seeing nothing but my flaws since then. Each day i feel a little more anxiety over areas of my body that are jiggly. Like my hips…..ya, mostly its my hip fat that bugging me. I got this skinny fat thing going on and i know its because i got to step up my game with diet and exercise. Just draaaaaaging my heals😅 sigh……ya, any way. I took a picture of myself that day when i got home. Just to reasure myself that it was them and not me. Idk why i am feeling so dang easily shook. I dont like it. And im not sure if to be mad at myself or some dumbass stranger. Or is there another option for me to be mad about? Lol thanks for hearing me out everyone.
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