Starfield - Bethesda's new space IP: will probably be full of fun and easily trackable bugs

How do you think Starfield will turn out?


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I am both relieved and horrified to learn I wasn't the only one who had their PC shit itself and start loading a crapton of whatever junk this game pretends to have for graphics whenever the slightest thing happened.
Starfield got really screwed by BG3 coming out first. The facial movements and skin textures are so much better. It makes Starfield look like a last gen offering in comparison.
The Stargaze does that all by itself. No need for BG3. We're back in the Oblivion days of ugly-ass mofos staring at you.

EDIT: So, the solution to the stuttering is "Lol, get an SSD faggots"? Holy shit Todd Howard has outdone himself!
 
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I don't think it is a tossup anymore.
Starfield is pretty janky, and somehow manages to make the same ugly faces with facial sliders. TOR blows both out of the water and its a 12 year old mmo. Bg3 has at least has less plastic textures and faces, and way better hair.
 

The awful colours are intentional....

It's probably them trying to mimic film for some reason.

Fix space UI being locked to 30fps (they are still using flash, god save us)

Console bat to change FOV ingame

No real mods yet because no xEdit update or Creation Kit, its going to be textures and ini edits for a while.

I wondered why the UI felt so fucking bad, jesus
 
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I wonder if the game NEEDs an SSD install.

Nah, couldn't be...

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Bethesda fanboys are the fucking worst.
It'll take at least a year (being optimistic here) before all the Bethesda dickriders will admit the faults of this game and even then most of them won't because modders will have fixed most issues and they'll switch to "just mod bro".
Nothing Bethesda released since I'd say Oblivion was that good. Fallout 3 is massively overrated & mid at best.

Fallout 4 is utter dogshit if you're looking for anything resembling an RPG or good story but at least the guncrafting was interesting for all of 2 hours.

Skyrim was alright for its time but people somehow still hail it as some "amazingly fantastic RPG" while the mechanics and skills are as deep as a puddle and the enemy scaling is annoying as shit. At least it has some aspects of story and worldbuilding that are pretty good, but then again, if I want *just* a story or worldbuilding I'll read a book or something.

ESO is a fucking mess and the onboarding for newer players nowadays is atrocious, the level scaling enemies is even worse than Skyrim, all levelling and getting better gear does is making the enemies' numbers go up with yours.
Not even starting about 76, everyone knows it's dogshit.

Starfield to me looks like just Skyrim in space. Not much too new outside of space combat and again as wide as an ocean yet as deep as a puddle.

The only thing I'm impressed by in all of this is how Todd Howard manages to fleece reddit tier faggots for everything they have every single time & rope them into the copium fueled "Erhm well akschually it gets good after 72 hours! Just mod the game bro!".
 
One of things that stuck out for me during Vinesauce Vinny's stream was that it doesnt take long for ot to feel like a bethesda game.

Loke it apparently feels like the same game with a new coat of paint and a couple of different elements stuck in so I guess itll be just a bland 5/10 not terrible but forgettable and not really exciting

Maybe bethesda is really going to lean into just making "base templates" for modders rather than games

Fallout 4 is utter dogshit if you're looking for anything resembling an RPG or good story but at least the guncrafting was interesting for all of 2 hours.

Fallout 4 shouldve burned for its bullshit dialogue and railroad story itself. Omagine going from New vegas to Fallout 4 where every dialogue option is the same yes option with the same shithouse story quest of mah son whodunnit
 
Its fucking hilarious. This game has some of the most... mediocre graphics for a modern game and he wants a 2080 and an SSD for it all? Its a flatter, blander Cyberpunk 2077 and he's demanding the exact same specs and even more HDD space.

More seriously, who the fuck has a an old-ass 1070 and an SSD?
 
No 32:9 support out of the box. It runs in 21:9 until you hex-edit the .exe and use a custom .ini to set the FOV higher, and even then, menus and overlays are not in 32:9. When running borderless fullscreen in 21:9 res on a 32:9 panel, the cursor in the map view and the ship building screen is horizontally offset from where you’ll actually end up clicking, making the ship builder and the map view useless without the hex edit (or running windowed). Odyssey G9 users (all twenty of us), beware.

All the female characters look hormonally imbalanced and have inflated balloon skulls, flat chests, and huge dyke chins. The combat is Fallout 4 in space. Typical looter shooter bullet sponge bullshit, but with absolutely retarded AI. It is literally The Outer Worlds 2.

The dialogue is retarded Netflix-tier garbage that makes me want to gag. There is no armor layering system like Fallout 4. You have five clothing slots; outfit/hat to wear in settlements with no space suit required, and space suit/helmet/pack for hazardous environments.

The ship and outpost building are perhaps the only redeeming qualities of the game, and even those have long been eclipsed by Space Engineers, Empyrion, et cetera.

I do, however, like the environment art and the aesthetic, and my 4090 isn’t having any noticeable framerate drops.

My verdict is that this needs 200+ mods installed to make it playable. Typical Bethsoft game.
So the vibe I'm getting from Youtubers is that this is very grounded hard sci fi.

No aliens or xenos, no cyborgs or androids, weapons are ballistic only, no energy weapons or whacky stuff.

I'm not sure how I feel about that. I generally think pulpy high concept stuff is more fun and engaging than pseudo realism.
Very grounded hard sci-fi? Haha, no.

Their explanation for how Earth turned into a barren wasteland with no atmosphere is that the magnetosphere just randomly disappeared and all the air went with it. First off, the Earth’s core dynamo isn’t going to become inactive for eons. Secondly, even if Earth somehow randomly lost its magnetic field, it would still take millions of years for the solar wind to strip the atmosphere off. It’s not like a balloon you can pop and let all the air out. It’s held on by friggin’ gravity.

There are a bunch of little science gaffes here and there when characters bother to explain anything even vaguely scientific. This is Science Fantasy with a hard-SF visual veneer.
 
Oh wow so even the "unique traits that will change your playstyle" was a fucking lie.

I chose a trait that meant I was raised in a specific area, I learn I can buy real estate, I cannot buy real estate because I'm not a citizen in a place I was born at.
What the fuck. Am I just an illegal immigrant or some shit?


And who could every forget having an entire skill tree for unarmed, but not only not having unarmed weapons, but not being able to unequip weapons in the hotkeys. Because people totally want to manually unequip mid battle just to punch people. Holy shit.
 
I traveled to the Sol System as soon as I could; wish there was more major stuff outside of Mars.
I think I'm doing it right so far tho.
 

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Starfield is a big release from a big studio and with Microsoft's backing to boot. There's an expectation that the game must be something special when it seems mediocre at best. That's what's caught a few e-celebs and reviewers out, they simply expected the game to be getting 10/10 GOTY awards across the board. It's the bandwagon effect in action and they can either double down or eat crow. I think the game will get a lot of undeserved prise until some e-celeb drops an essay that get's 15 million views and then everyone will change their tune.

There really isn't any reason why Starfield couldn't have been a better game. Seamless traversal, better procedurally generated content, more engaging hand crafted content, better animations and just be over all prettier. The excuses I've seen don't hold water as far as I'm concerned. Bethesda isn't a small studio, they have vast resources at their disposal. Tech problems with the engine should have been fixed years ago or scraped in favour of a new more capable one.

Bethesda has one party trick they did really well, that being big open world RPGs but the days of them being unique in the market are long over. There's a lot of these games now and most of them are better than Bethesda's output. The natural comparison is with No Man's Sky but you can do it for any open world or RPG game and the out come doesn't change. Bethesda's stagnation and regression in places has left them behind the industry, they are costing on brand recognition alone at this point.

What will Elder Scrolls 6 have to make it stand out? BG3, Zelda, Elden Ring, Red Dead 2 even lacklustre games like Horizon Zero Dawn are all much better than anything Bethesda can make. These games have better tech, just a much money/resources and far more talent to produce the big open world games that Bethesda built a studio on. We live in a much more completive world, with new tools and hardware that allows for even small devs to produce something on par with Bethesda while Sony, Nintendo, Rockstar and a dozen other studios can pour money into Spiderman or GTA 6 or the next Zelda.

I'll make a prediction, Elder Scrolls 6 will be Skyrim 2.0. For the most part marginally better in most regards yet weirdly missing features that Skyrim had and graphically worse in places. The RPG system is going to take a back seat like it has since Fallout 4. It probably won't be awful but it won't be special, it'll blend in with all the other open world games made in the last 20 year.
 
>SSD Required
>game still functions (shittily) on a hard drive

This is so funny. They're basically just admitting that they're fucking retarded and can't optimize for shit. I wish the steam hardware survey tallied up SSD vs HDD usage, so you could see exactly what percentage of their playerbase they're cucking. This is like when the xbox one was always online, people complained, some faggot from microsoft told them "we have a console for people without internet connections, it's called the xbox 360". Absolutely out of touch. DLSS and its consequences have been a disaster for the PC master race.

And don't forget, games cost $70 now.
 

Gamers Nexus has made a video on the performance of Starfield. The video doesn't really cover anything about the PC port or technical make up of the game but there's good info here. TLDR: it's a heavy game to run on all hardware.

This is my opinion but there's nothing all that impressive either visually or mechanics wise to justify the level of performance.
 
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