Starfield - Bethesda's new space IP: will probably be full of fun and easily trackable bugs

[Epoch]

1. Is anyone here who played it willing to say anything notably (not just somewhat) positive about Starfield?

The gunplay succeeds in reminding me of Destiny, but I don't know if this is a good thing or not. The SMGs feel the exact same, ADS and bullet hose the enemy crit with no recoil. Anyone who has played Destiny will get what I'm describing.

 

[Inafune Fanfiction]

Weren't there supposed to be mechs as shown in a few of the trailers? Where are they? I haven't seen any gameplay with them.

 

[Epoch]

Weren't there supposed to be mechs as shown in a few of the trailers? Where are they? I haven't seen any gameplay with them.

Just the annoying redditor robot companion, Todd explicitly statet no mechs and no vehicles.

What format are these? MS made a big hubbub about their fancy dx12 texture compression but I wouldn't put it pass todd to be using good ol dxt5

Oh boy. Whats even better is that this normal map has no blue channel, but its completely blank. They are straight up just not using 2/4 channels on a 1k BC5 texture.

Then they just have a completely separate texture for opacity, which is just this in red. This file is 682kb and is entirely pointless. I'm going through every channel and its as bad or worse than what I said before, the normal map is BC5 but the others are BC4 and the colour is DXT1. I don't understand any of this though process other than maybe they see the limited colour channels of specific compressions and think that will save them storage or something? It would still be so much better to pack everything down, and it would save time loading multiple textures and it would save VRAM, this is just incompetence at this point.

I think I might know why nothing is packed, there are telltale substance exported textures because of the infinite padding. Substance allows you to pack channels in the export menu but you have to manually set them all, the bethesda guys probably just hit the quick export textures button then compressed them down to DDS later.

I think the fact that Irfanview and Gimp both handle the missing blue channel different might be the result of them just eradicating an existing blue channel when they compressed it


Also this texture set is for gun attachments, and all the textures are 1k and the normal is full res.

 

[Sniperwoof]

At least Cyberpunk looks good with all the bugs and flaws.

These graphics look like Fallout 4 on medium settings.

 

[DOUBLE_WHEEL]

Weren't there supposed to be mechs as shown in a few of the trailers? Where are they? I haven't seen any gameplay with them.

They announced they weren't pilotable and that there were no ground vehicles in game.

 

[Epoch]

I wonder if they could be sued for false advertising. Even No Mans Sky has vehicles and mechs. Meanwhile the globohomo propaganda machine is hyping this heap of dogshit like its the second coming of christ. When it can't even square up to skyrim which had horses.

4chan inside source leaker said it was because their 20 year old engine cant keep up with world generation if you move faster than sprinting speed. There is also no water

 

[DOUBLE_WHEEL]

I wonder if they could be sued for false advertising.

Probably not since they never actually said that there would be vehicles and Todd told people there wouldn't when asked.

 

[Inafune Fanfiction]

Probably not since they never actually said that there would be vehicles and Todd told people there wouldn't when asked.

Didn't plan on getting it anyway but it's pathetic that the sci fi game doesn't have a Rover or something when Skyrim had horses.

 

[The Ugly One]

There really isn't any reason why Starfield couldn't have been a better game. Seamless traversal, better procedurally generated content, more engaging hand crafted content, better animations and just be over all prettier. The excuses I've seen don't hold water as far as I'm concerned. Bethesda isn't a small studio, they have vast resources at their disposal. Tech problems with the engine should have been fixed years ago or scraped in favour of a new more capable one.

Bethesda software has always had the stench of bad software practices and poor processes. It's been excused for years bEcAuSe tHe wOrLdS aRe sO bIg. And yet, a dozen fans patch out tons of the bugs on their own within months every single time. I did not have high hopes for this game, and I wasn't surprised.

 

[Epoch]

I'm unironically getting better compression by converting these to PNG, normal map is 1.33mb using Bethesda compression, and 477kb in PNG. Metalness from 682kb to 205kb. The only one that went up was the colour, which was dxt1.

 

[Divine right to rule]

Didn't Todd claim they had some new superface-tech that would help them making "realistic" characters?
Why do most NPCs look like some unholy spawn of Somalis and Abbos?
Normal Niggers aren't as ugly as the Starfield ones.

 

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i really dont understand the design process with sarah, its because no attractive women allowed?, she looks ugly and old at the same time

 

[Kharash]

i really dont understand the design process with sarah, its because no attractive women allowed?, she looks ugly and old at the same time

She's the Delphine of this game. Clearly it's someone's fetish at Bethesda.
Probably Emil's.

 

[Epoch]

They picked DXT1 for colour because it cuts it from 1mb to 512kb, that's seemingly the only reason. I channel packed it myself, them not using normal map Z means you can fit everything into 2 textures instead of 5. The 5 textures in the game is 4mb of storage outside the BA2, where as my two image pack is 2mb using BC7 compression. Roughness in blue, metallic in alpha.


vs Bethesda's

Of course this texture wont work in the game because they didn't make the materials have channel packing, unless you can edit what texture channels get used for what, but I doubt that. There is 40gb of textures, and lets be generous and assume all of them can be cut by 50% like I did, unlikely since some have more textures for emissive and id maps etc, that would be 20gb saved just from efficient texture packing, even higher if they used dxt1 instead of BC7, but at the cost of quality.

 

[Dr. Ricearoni]

More seriously, who the fuck has a an old-ass 1070 and an SSD?

The last time I upgraded anything was when I got a new motherboard to get enough space for RAM to play Elden Ring

 

[Kharash]

More seriously, who the fuck has a an old-ass 1070 and an SSD?

I do. SSDs are actually priced reasonably and weren't some kind of rarity when the 1070 released either.
It still runs plenty of games well enough though obviously it's getting worse since we just entered a new gen, I'd upgrade if modern games were worth it and GPU prices weren't a scam.

 

[Gravityqueen4life]

tried the game but it runs like ass. keeps stuttering , lagging and sound bits lagging behind. i know for sure its not my computer. got an RTX 3080 and intel core i7. turned down the game from ultra too high but it still shugs. my fault for pirating a early accesses bethesda game i guess.

 

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tried the game but it runs like ass. keeps stuttering , lagging and sound bits lagging behind. i know for sure its not my computer. got an RTX 3080 and intel core i7. turned down the game from ultra too high but it still shugs. my fault for pirating a early accesses bethesda game i guess.

Are You running it from a ssd?

 

[Gravityqueen4life]

Are You running it from a ssd?

yes (i think?). the install is on my other harddrive but the game directory is on the SSD.

 

[The Ugly One]

Its fucking hilarious. This game has some of the most... mediocre graphics for a modern game and he wants a 2080 and an SSD for it all? Its a flatter, blander Cyberpunk 2077 and he's demanding the exact same specs and even more HDD space.

More seriously, who the fuck has a an old-ass 1070 and an SSD?

My 1060 prebuilt came with an SSD.