Furry Fandom and Drama General

[The Ultimate Ramotith]

Not sure what exactly is inaccurate about the word "groomed" here. You can't just change someone to be gay. It takes long-time, systematic buttering people with "Hey but what about THIS dude? He is kinda cute, right?" to get someone to cave. If you think this doesn't happen in the gay community, you have never seen an actual predator before. The kinds of people that do this shit are the "I am gay, because girls SUCK" type and have 0 issues trying to stick the lead into their straight friends circle. Furry gay groomers have it even easier because half the fucking straight furries are "kinda bi as long as it is artwork!" anyway.

You had me in the first part. I am not going to lie.

But of course, instead of addressing the issue head on, you have people clobber the OP with "far-right dogwhistle" so he has to issue a 'correction' in a second post that most people won't ever read or even see, thus burying the issue under the resulting mound of backlash.

The mainstreaming of transgenderism (especially online) mixed with trans narcissis means that any trans issue, especially anything remotely anti-trans, becomes pushed on anyone, including Drag Queen Story Hour. Since drag queens were still rather obscure (people having some rough idea about funny crossdresers t most), the whole 'Drag Queen Grooming Hour' controversy was the firs time anyone learned much about drag queens, especially on how they were hypnotising children with 'educatiobal' queer pornography. In fact, not only is drag, by its nature, pornographic, but queer books have a history of pornography. Despite drag not being transgenderism, the two are otherwise closely related, especially since they both involve womanface (or manface) in th end. The pro-BGLT+ people know this, too, which is the reason why drag queens were called the 'Marines of the queer movement'. Because hypnosis and drag are two themes that many people are discovering a the same time, they would logically conflate the two, which is accurate. If you include the closely related transgenderism, then they would accurately conflate transgenderism with hypnosis. Do you remembe r/eggirl? In fact, this actually continues the proof that a lot of transgender people were that way because of being trained that way or otherwise abused while children, no matter how hard the pro-BGLT+ insis that is a stereotypical myth.

Of course, the narcissism of the pro-BGLT+ movement says that anything bad that happens to BGLT+ people i strictly because of phobia. Remember that, even though 'TERF' literally means 'trans-exclusionary radical feminist', the 'radical feminist' part is ignored. In fact, the phrase 'trans-exclusionary' is not only defined 'whateve remotely upsets trans people' but also includes tonnes of random, totally unrelated things because of 'cryptoterf dogwhistles', let alone the pædo extension Shinigami Eyes, which marks actual transgender people.


The conflation, 'myths', and narcisis mean tha trans people see the allegations and, rather than call off the drag queens who read to children stories about pounding tom-toms, claim tha the anti-grooming allegations are just a cover of their transphobia under a more socially acceptable label. This leads to the claims that 'groomer' actually means 'trans'. That also goes to the accusatiobs that queer books are not actually being banned because they are pornographic but because they are queer.

 

[Tennis-Ball-Tony]

Sounds like a furry named PaloWalf, aka DivePup has died, most likely from suffication fetish play.

 

[Solid Hyrax]

Sounds like a furry named PaloWalf, aka DivePup has died, most likely from suffication fetish play.

How the police probably found his corpse.

Spoiler

Saves them a body bag.

 

[Cave Fisher]

Some anonymous screed, aptly named braeburned is a groomer.

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The word "groomer" has lost any and all meaning, because its usage can range from "some teenager sent a dick pick to the wrong girl" to "This person is sexually attracted to minors to the point they'll use their status as a trustworthy figure to exploit them", so if I hear the word coming out of some random account with no profile pic named after Braeburn, and zero evidence or credibility, I'm gonna assume they're just another shit-stirrer who wants attention.

 

[Fuggalope]

How the police probably found his corpse.

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Saves them a body bag.

I've been trying to find out how he died, but everyone being tight lipped online. I suspect it was some sort of extreme link gone wrong.


Crazy seeing how many of the condolences also involve porn. Damn furries are pornsick

 

[Calamity]

Sounds like a furry named PaloWalf, aka DivePup has died, most likely from suffication fetish play.

I remember this happened to another fur a good while ago, some lynx fursona guy. His friends tried to lie about the death on Twitter and cover up the sexual nature, despite the fact the reality of the situation had already broken out into the kink chats he was involved in before they tried damage control. Self asphyxia play, alone and he fucked up.

Anyone in those communities and general bdsm style sorts scenes knows the big No-No is playing alone. Hell, most hammer it into you there's no such a thing as safe asphyxia play (or electric, or whatever else), so if you do decide to step away from the realm of fantasy, it's on you. Some of those sites even list obituaries of past members who have died fucking around and finding out.

I don't think there's any benefit to hiding what these people have done. At least in death they can be an example to others that fantasy is not reality, which is a reminder a lot of people into these kinks often need.

 

[Mikoyan]

I remember this happened to another fur a good while ago, some lynx fursona guy. His friends tried to lie about the death on Twitter and cover up the sexual nature, despite the fact the reality of the situation had already broken out into the kink chats he was involved in before they tried damage control. Self asphyxia play, alone and he fucked up.

Anyone in those communities and general bdsm style sorts scenes knows the big No-No is playing alone. Hell, most hammer it into you there's no such a thing as safe asphyxia play (or electric, or whatever else), so if you do decide to step away from the realm of fantasy, it's on you. Some of those sites even list obituaries of past members who have died fucking around and finding out.

I don't think there's any benefit to hiding what these people have done. At least in death they can be an example to others that fantasy is not reality, which is a reminder a lot of people into these kinks often need.

Given this guy's thing seems to have been that whole weird 'vacuum packed into plastic with an airhose' thing, I'm not sure even that would've helped.

 

[omori]

One of his pinned posts on Palowalf is literally a clip of him being suspended from a warehouse ceiling with a plastic bag over his head. It wasn’t a matter of if but when.

 

[AngryTreeRat]

Hell, most hammer it into you there's no such a thing as safe asphyxia play (or electric, or whatever else), so if you do decide to step away from the realm of fantasy, it's on you. Some of those sites even list obituaries of past members who have died fucking around and finding out.

Everyone who does edge play knows you're one bad mistake from irreparable damage and they've accepted it the same way rock climbers do while mitigating risks as best they can and will usually be fine so long as the precautions are followed and don't fail, much like rock climbing, or they are too stupid to know the risk and are in line for a Darwin Award. And unlike rock climbing you'll get laughed at and leave a far less dignified memory behind if it goes wrong.

Minor PL, I know someone who was part of the local scene who has asphyxiation related brain damage due to a partner who didn't take the safety precautions seriously enough, I know people who have nervous system damage due to fucking around with electricity in their play without being safe, one of whom can't walk now because they did it alone. I even know someone who fucked up some muscles permanently with knife play.

You can mitigate your risks a lot, but you will never be free of them. No one with a brain seeking thrills is stupid enough to do anything dangerous like this alone. There's a reason most communities hammer safety into everyone, and many don't permit even discussing edge play. Liability when you fuck up.

I don't think there's any benefit to hiding what these people have done. At least in death they can be an example to others that fantasy is not reality, which is a reminder a lot of people into these kinks often need.

It is usually done to spare the families some dignity due to association. Sometimes there's too much degeneracy to spare the families some dignity, so instead you need to loudly and repeatedly proclaim that they "WERE NOT AWARE OF THE DANGEROUS ACTIVITIES HE WAS INVOLVED IN" and hope everyone believes you and that becomes the truth regardless of how much they knew.

 

[Rukario]

Given this guy's thing seems to have been that whole weird 'vacuum packed into plastic with an airhose' thing, I'm not sure even that would've helped.

He sexually identified as a UPS package then?

 

[Mikoyan]

He sexually identified as a UPS package then?

More like those jerky slabs you can get at the gas station that are tightly packed in plastic.

 

[blargenheimer]

The word "groomer" has lost any and all meaning, because its usage can range from "some teenager sent a dick pick to the wrong girl" to "This person is sexually attracted to minors to the point they'll use their status as a trustworthy figure to exploit them", so if I hear the word coming out of some random account with no profile pic named after Braeburn, and zero evidence or credibility, I'm gonna assume they're just another shit-stirrer who wants attention.

I don't know why you're making that argument. I wouldn't necessarily disagree either, but this is exactly predatory. Maybe you didn't read it, and I wouldn't blame you. It very well could be a nothingburger, though with the fandom it also wouldn't be a surprise if it was later determined to be real. I tried to investigate that time period and he apparently had a boyfriend then, but that obviously doesn't preclude the promiscuous, especially given what work he's known for. I am not making any assertion, just taking note.

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Hello, stranger. Absolutely nobody here cares about Braeburned to smear him. Only autistic lifestyle furries like this would do that...

 

[Some Badger]

Crazy seeing how many of the condolences also involve porn. Damn furries are pornsick

It’s almost comical how common this is, too. Some guy you know in the fandom has died? Draw tribute fetish art of them!

Maybe it’s what the deceased would have wanted, but most people probably find it tasteless and a little shallow, like imagine passing away suddenly and all you were good for to some socially-maladjusted weirdos on the Internet was that you produced content they beat off to.

 

[The Ultimate Ramotith]

It’s almost comical how common this is, too. Some guy you know in the fandom has died? Draw tribute fetish art of them!

Maybe it’s what the deceased would have wanted, but most people probably find it tasteless and a little shallow, like imagine passing away suddenly and all you were good for to some socially-maladjusted weirdos on the Internet was that you produced content they beat off to.

That reminded me of some of the Athus tribute art.
Moreover, is that not necrosexuality?

 

[Absurdist Laughter]

Sounds like a furry named PaloWalf, aka DivePup has died, most likely from suffication fetish play.

I'm not shocked considering the videos I've seen of his porn; was wondering where I had recognized the name. He's a big breath play and bondage kinkster. I'm just left wondering if there were others around and it was an accident or if it was a solo play incident. Either way, edge play is no joke and it is a big reason why I don't write it for profit anymore. People were using kink stories as manuals and not just fantasy.

Edit: Heard from some friends in Seattle and confirmed it was a solo act.

For those interested, there are six videos on the furry pornhub known as Murrtube of Palo participating in edge play. I counted six thumbnails with bag over a fursuit head.

Another person named Felix, a predominant snuff author in the fandom, died probably doing the same thing around the pandemic era I think?

 

[Rozzy]

For those interested, there are six videos on the furry pornhub known as Murrtube of Palo participating in edge play. I counted six thumbnails with bag over a fursuit head.

If he died in his fursuit it would be like a scene from CSI fur and loathing.

 

[JethroTullamore]

If he died in his fursuit it would be like a scene from CSI fur and loathing.

He died doing what he loved, embarressing the shit out of his family.

Can you imagine being the loved one that found him? Like, imagine his mother comes walking in with a plate of cookies or some clean clothes and bam, there he is, in full fursuit wrapped in plastic wrap like some shitty action figure.
What a final memory to have burned into your head.

 

[Some Badger]

He died doing what he loved, embarressing the shit out of his family.

Can you imagine being the loved one that found him? Like, imagine his mother comes walking in with a plate of cookies or some clean clothes and bam, there he is, in full fursuit wrapped in plastic wrap like some shitty action figure.
What a final memory to have burned into your head.

A heart-wrenching prospect, but living this kind of lifestyle so publicly is the kind of thing that prompts faggots to cut ties with their parents or vice versa, whichever comes first. The kinds of fetishes these people live and breathe and invest their income into is the kind of stuff that breaks a boomer’s mind.

 

[N Space]

He died doing what he loved, embarressing the shit out of his family.

Can you imagine being the loved one that found him? Like, imagine his mother comes walking in with a plate of cookies or some clean clothes and bam, there he is, in full fursuit wrapped in plastic wrap like some shitty action figure.
What a final memory to have burned into your head.

The worst part will be when people ask how he died. How do you explain Ms. Longbottom that your son asphyxiated himself because it turned him on?

 

[std::string]

No one with a brain seeking thrills is stupid enough to do anything dangerous like this alone.

Sounds perfect for furries then. Your fetish just escalates and escalates until you're doing stupid shit.