Culture The endless battle to banish the world’s most notorious stalker website - The anonymous forum, known as Kiwi Farms, keeps popping back online despite a relentless campaign by transgender activists and a former insider

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By Nitasha Tiku
September 3, 2023 at 7:00 a.m. EDT

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Liz Fong-Jones, left, and Katherine Lorelai. (Jackie Dives and Nick Oxford for The Washington Post)

When he heard that Kiwi Farms had been knocked offline, “Clay,” a member of the anonymous online forum, was flooded with relief. “I thought to myself, ‘This hell on Earth has finally been vanquished.’”
Founded in 2013, Kiwi Farms has been used to organize vicious harassment and stalking campaigns against targets including Clara Sorrenti, a transgender activist known as Keffals, and Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (Ga.), a far-right Republican. It went down exactly one year ago, after Cloudflare, a major tech security firm, stopped providing services, saying contributors to the forum were posting the home addresses of those seen as enemies and calling for them to be shot.

But in the week that followed, Kiwi Farms scrambled to stay alive, jumping from Russian servers to a Ukrainian hosting service to VanwaTech, a Vancouver, Wash.-based hosting and security company infamous for providing refuge to 8chan, a message board notorious for white-supremacist content. As it became increasingly clear that Kiwi Farms would not go down without a fight, “Clay” — who spoke on the condition that he be identified by a pseudonym to avoid retribution — joined forces with Liz Fong-Jones, one of Kiwi Farms’s fiercest adversaries, and launched a dogged campaign to keep the site offline.
Over the past year, their little group of internet sleuths, trans engineers and activists has methodically chased Kiwi Farms across servers and networks around the globe, successively persuading more than two dozen companies to drop the site. Despite this laborious undertaking — described exclusively to The Washington Post — the site has endured, showing up for months at a time, sometimes as a “mirror” of itself on an entirely different URL or as a foreign domain in countries such as Poland.
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Fong-Jones, one of Kiwi Farms’s fiercest adversaries, has spent the past year trying to keep the site offline. (Jackie Dives for The Washington Post)
The group’s Sisyphean battle illustrates the lack of mechanisms for reporting online abuse, much less for banishing harmful content. It also raises serious doubts about society’s ability to block any site from the global web — even one that explicitly incites violence.
“Either people think Kiwi Farms is dead forever … or they think it’s up and therefore it’s going to remain up forever,” said Fong-Jones, a transgender site-reliability engineer who had been targeted by the forum. “Neither of those two narratives are true.”
Founded by Joshua Moon, a former 8chan administrator, Kiwi Farms evolved into a popular platform for creating harassment campaigns. Its users often fixated on transgender people, relentlessly stalking and doxing them. At least three of its victims died by suicide.


In response to a request for comment, Moon wrote by email, “Do you still print that rag on paper? If so, please send a physical copy of your smear piece to the PO box listed on the website so I can frame it. Thanks.”
The campaign against Kiwi Farms began in earnest last summer. Sorrenti, a Twitch streamer who became famous as a news star for trans youth, had been under attack for months by Kiwi Farms users, who she said doxed her address and “swatted” her home, filing a false crime report that drove police to her door. In August, she fled her native Canada for Europe and launched a social media campaign to pressure internet providers to stop protecting the forum, using the hashtag #DropKiwiFarms.
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Clara Sorrenti, also known as Keffals, in London. (Hao Nguyen for The Washington Post)
From her home in Vancouver, Fong-Jones heard about the harassment against Sorrenti and immediately recognized the tactics.
Fong-Jones also had been targeted by Kiwi Farms beginning in 2017, when she donated to a transgender nonprofit. Users published her home address, the names of her biological parents and a redacted copy of her birth certificate in a thread that included racist and transphobic slurs. Members smeared her online in an attempt to ruin her Google search results, then sent her employers the false information.
Though the harassment had died down, Fong-Jones still felt compelled to contribute to the #DropKiwiFarms campaign. She made videos for her YouTube channel explaining Cloudflare’s complicity in keeping the site online.
Those videos soon reached Katherine Lorelai, a transgender IT worker in Norman, Okla. Lorelai had never heard of Kiwi Farms and was distraught by what she learned from Fong-Jones’s presentations.
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Katherine Lorelai, a transgender IT worker in Norman, Okla. (Nick Oxford for The Washington Post)
Lorelai had been taking gender transition hormones for less than a year and had no connections to activist circles. Beyond wrangling server space, she had never worked on systems that spanned the entire internet. But she volunteered to help, starting as Fong-Jones’s assistant, before stepping up to co-lead the team.
“I had no idea I had these skills, to be honest,” Lorelai said.
The group began spending dozens of hours each week navigating the byzantine web of network infrastructure, trying to ferret out connections between no-name intermediaries to track down Kiwi Farms’s new home. Then they would send carefully worded emails to those companies’ employees — even cold-messaging on LinkedIn — to persuade them to stop working with the website.
The group operated in cells in case they were doxed but kept track of every internet provider they persuaded to cut ties with Kiwi Farms.
Moon had a few major advantages. After earlier attempts to take down the site, he incorporated as his own internet service provider, acquiring his own physical hardware, network resources and a block of IP addresses, making Kiwi Farms much more difficult to dislodge. It marks the site as a “peer” on the internet, meaning Moon directly receives any abuse reports and is entitled to a presumption of good faith.
When the team alerted FiberHub, a data center in Las Vegas, to alert the company to the bad actor using their facilities, the center said they merely provided the electricity and power cord but had no bearing on the servers that kept the site online. Those belonged to Moon’s hosting company, originally incorporated under the name Final Solutions, a Nazi reference. FiberHub did not immediately respond to request for comment.


The group slowly discovered a network of what they called “sh--hosts” — low-end internet providers who work with disreputable sites that spread malware or offensive content, arguing that they have a right to free speech.
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But the group had an asset of their own.
Clay had been a member of Kiwi Farms in his teens. He was bored, seeking community, pressured by his friends and going through a libertarian phase, he said. But following the suicide of one of the site’s targets, he began to push back on the forum’s creed that its victims weren’t human. He withdrew from the site after he saw Kiwi Farms members turn their talents for doxing and harassment on other members.
His goal in joining Fong-Jones and Lorelai’s group was to help the forum’s users, he told The Post. He pointed to Frederick Brennan, the creator of 8chan who called for that site to be taken offline after it played a role in mass shootings in Christchurch, New Zealand, and El Paso. Brennan, he said, “wanted to free [the] user base of that site from being radicalized, from going down a darker path. And that’s what I’m sort of doing here.”
Having Clay onboard was a game changer. One of the challenges in persuading companies that Kiwi Farms was a bad actor was the site’s opaque language. Outsiders might overlook terms such as “TTD,” which in Kiwi Farms’s vernacular means “total tr--ny death,” using a slur to refer to transgender people.
Clay could translate this language. He also could show how Kiwi Farms users migrated to Discord servers, where they were more explicit about planning attacks. He led activists to the threads most rife with racism and calls for violence. And he confirmed the trolls’ habit of using the phrase “in Minecraft” to pretend an illegal activity, such as revealing the Social Security numbers of their targets, was just something they did in the online game.
“He was the Kiwi Farms whisperer,” Fong-Jones said.
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Fong-Jones had been targeted by Kiwi Farms beginning in 2017, when she donated to a transgender nonprofit. (Jackie Dives for The Washington Post)
Clay, in turn, was getting an education of his own. Fong-Jones helped him get up to speed on the “backbone” of the internet — massive networks responsible for publishing or passing along content known as Tier 1 ISPs — as well as the smaller downstream companies that depend on them for global reach.
Specialists schooled him in navigating the labyrinthine telecommunications industry. They explained Border Gateway Protocol, the automated routing system that picks the best path for traffic. And they explained how to leverage Tier 1 ISP’s acceptable use policies, the contracts that typically prohibit clients from using networks for theft, hacking, harassment, and other unwanted or illegal activity.
In October, the group made a breakthrough.
After rotating among web hosts, Moon had settled on Zayo, a company based in Boulder, Colo. Fong-Jones contacted someone at Zayo, a former colleague who was alarmed to learn his company was working with Kiwi Farms and escalated the matter to senior leadership.
Kiwi Farms’s services were soon terminated. .In a statement, Zayo said it concluded that the forum had violated its acceptable use policy, “which allows for termination of service.”


For Fong-Jones, it was a wake-up call. There are less than 20 Tier 1 ISPs in the world, and they get a ton of complaints: Spam. Malware. Harmful content. By and large, they try to stay out of such disputes, preferring to assume they are doing business with reputable companies. But the Zayo experience showed that — if Fong-Jones could reach the right people — top-tier providers were willing to prioritize enforcing their acceptable use policies.
Threats loomed over the group. After her YouTube videos about Cloudflare, Kiwi Farms users posted Fong-Jones’s home address, Social Security number and driver’s license. Once Zayo dropped the site, she began receiving death threats by phone.
Still, a year after the Cloudflare decision, asking providers to drop Kiwi Farms generates controversy. Last week, the Electronic Frontier Foundation published an opinion piece arguing that Tier 1 ISPs should not bow to pressure to drop Kiwi Farms, calling the move “a dangerous step” toward censorship.
“If the site in question were Reddit, or Planned Parenthood, or even EFF, the internet would be up in arms,” wrote the foundation, a nonprofit digital rights group based in San Francisco.
Alejandra Caraballo, a clinical instructor at Harvard Law School’s Cyberlaw Clinic, called that argument misplaced. “Fundamentally, EFF fails to acknowledge how power dynamics and asymmetrical threats can act as its own form of censorship,” Caraballo wrote on X, the site formerly known as Twitter.
Cloudflare CEO Matthew Prince has confessed to mixed feelings. While the company has withdrawn security services for the Daily Stormer and 8chan — both linked to real-world violence, including mass shootings and a deadly riot — Prince argues that revoking services based on reprehensible content sets a dangerous precedent.


“Deciding what isn’t allowed is the job of governments and regulators, not ISPs and network providers,” he said via the messaging app Signal. Still, he added, “I don’t miss having to worry about [Kiwi Farms] and their often vile content.”
Amid that debate, Kiwi Farms remains online. Without Cloudflare or Zayo or any of the two dozen other companies that have dropped the forum since the group started in September, Fong-Jones says it is down to a limited number of lifelines.
Lorelai, who is now committed full-time to trans activism, wants to move on to other causes. Fong-Jones is moving on as well. Clay and another one of the younger members of the group plan on carrying the torch.
Reflecting on the past year, Fong-Jones said it’s unreasonable to expect victims of harassment to have to do this work.
It’s true Kiwi Farms keeps finding more providers, she said. But, “it’s a finite list. And this is why we know we’re going to win.”
Joseph Menn contributed to this report.
 
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Holy fucking shit! Who's side is the author on? This is the type of information enemies of the farms have been able to keep on the down low among most people. This whole article is one giant fucking mistake if the goal is to get rid of the farms! They spell out everything. From obsessively stalking the site, to using connections, to harassing 2nd and 3rd parties, some of which having nothing at all to do with the site. They even spell out the intent by trying to use scare tactics over the fact that things they don't like are not easily censored off the net! Most of the normie supporters still deny this is meant to be a standard or trend!

Plus this whole thing reads like the confessions of a deranged and abusive stalker! No dong comes out of this looking like a completely obsessed nutjob HE is.
And the best part is they cry foul when others begin when those tactics are used against them. Imagine there would be a huge crowd of people writing honeycomb letters like "it has come to our attention that one of your employers has confessed on raping someone and also comitting welfare fraud. Please answer afew questions for us: do you feel good to employ such a person?" and so on. they would screech till high heavens
 
I fucking hate these people so much.
They don't care about opinions of others.
They don't care about free speech and internet neutrality.
They are sexist and hate women.
Most of them, If not all of them, want to diddle your kids.
And they would go out of their way to ruin your life if you spoke against anything they do.

Trans people are the most privileged, mentally unstable, controlling, bigoted, cruel people I have ever seen that are "supported" by government and most of the people out there, it's just ridiculous.
Why are normal people OK with this and remain ignorant? I still don't fucking get it.
I'm sorry that I'm repeating stuff that already has been said, but those comments really got to me.



Yeah, like that would ever work. :story:
When you read those comments, remember that they're being made by the same people who bitch and moan about how they're being oppressed and persecuted for no reason and how it's "just a few bad apples" who give their little community the reputation it has.
 
I just checked the comments replying to @JULAY and I see this from Neal Rauhauser:

"Joe - I think the world knows about Final Solutions from my research and I'm surprised you didn't reach out, given the topic. The Signal number you have for me still works.

The potential entanglement of Kiwi Farms and Chinese intel MUST be inspected more closely, and Australian Federal Police have never given any sign they did so. Moon decamped to Serbia and I'm really curious if it's the same environment that hosted Andrew "Weev" Auernheimer when he fled the U.S.

FiberHub is a Tea Party tentacle, not some random company that accidentally took KF as a client. The activists are remiss in not approaching the 300+ New Zealand companies that were sharing that address space. I described who they are and what should be done, but alas, as a cisgender Iowa farm boy, I couldn't get the needed boost when Keffals was leading the charge.

Kiwi Farms has a thread on nearly every activist. They don't have one on me, nor do they come anywhere near some of my associates. I'm curious if I'm as fearsome in 2023 as I was in 2021 - 2022.

I first took Moon et. al. to task in public for the murder of Near and I'm happy to throw down again. I can be reached by email my first name at my last name dot net if any KF hunters would like my files.

And for you, Josh - you can print this and frame it, too."
 
I think we would be better off if journalists were afraid to lie.

Idk if Null said this but I like the 1A analogy, "Freedom of the press isn't freedom from the consequences of your journalism"

Or the 2A analogy, "The founding fathers wrote that at a time when journalism was town criers and papers, they didn't know technology would progress to the point of novel length hit pieces that could reach millions of views in minutes. Ban Assault Journos!"

The fuck is this in a reference to?
Liz dong gone has some sort of degenerative disease that will eventually take his eyesight.
 
Clay could translate this language. He also could show how Kiwi Farms users migrated to Discord servers, where they were more explicit about planning attacks. He led activists to the threads most rife with racism and calls for violence. And he confirmed the trolls’ habit of using the phrase “in Minecraft” to pretend an illegal activity, such as revealing the Social Security numbers of their targets, was just something they did in the online game.
Jersh pointed this little gem out. But you know you've achieved peak -derangement syndrome when a bird could shit on someone's head and they'll think you trained it to.

Also I've never seen so many troons in one article. They're all getting faaaaaaaat.
 
Funny how these troons leave out the part where they force themselves into all types of communities, rot it from within as they get rid of anyone and everyone who slightly disagrees with them and replace them with even more troons and their dogged pursuit in taking over women's spaces especially the feminist ones as well as their clear intent to turn kids into troons themselves. Which is by the way, a very painful process where the pain never truly ends as they feed their delusion.

The only reason they're still around is because much like pitbulls, they have owners that love the hell out of them. In this case, the elites because the troon is deviant enough to force the kind of change they want. Which is a divided populace and the eventuality where they are free to enact all types of horrible things to children.

You will never be a woman, your kind is historically tied to disaster whenever you take power (as seen in Ancient China and today ) and the only reason you are even celebrated in the Mainstream is because the elites are fully intent on using you like a condom. Once you're done, they'll dispose of you so hard like yesterday's garbage.
 
I just checked the comments replying to @JULAY and I see this from Neal Rauhauser:

"Joe - I think the world knows about Final Solutions from my research and I'm surprised you didn't reach out, given the topic. The Signal number you have for me still works.

The potential entanglement of Kiwi Farms and Chinese intel MUST be inspected more closely, and Australian Federal Police have never given any sign they did so. Moon decamped to Serbia and I'm really curious if it's the same environment that hosted Andrew "Weev" Auernheimer when he fled the U.S.

FiberHub is a Tea Party tentacle, not some random company that accidentally took KF as a client. The activists are remiss in not approaching the 300+ New Zealand companies that were sharing that address space. I described who they are and what should be done, but alas, as a cisgender Iowa farm boy, I couldn't get the needed boost when Keffals was leading the charge.

Kiwi Farms has a thread on nearly every activist. They don't have one on me, nor do they come anywhere near some of my associates. I'm curious if I'm as fearsome in 2023 as I was in 2021 - 2022.

I first took Moon et. al. to task in public for the murder of Near and I'm happy to throw down again. I can be reached by email my first name at my last name dot net if any KF hunters would like my files.

And for you, Josh - you can print this and frame it, too."
Looks like this faggot already has an ED page:

 
I just checked the comments replying to @JULAY and I see this from Neal Rauhauser:
Man, we're getting some of the classics showing up in this movement, aren't we? Figures neal woudl still be obsessed with the tea party, given that's the last time he was relevant.

It was almost 20 years ago, Neal. Get a new gig.
 
Yawn. Another run-of-the-mill article. Obviously a desperate attempt to keep the #DropKF movement somewhat relevant. The comments come across as trannies trying to boost the article.

As for 'Clay', he either doesn't exist or is some faggot who only used KF for a week or two. If he plans to 'carry the torch' for #DropKF, his identity will eventually be revealed by his own volition or by a dox. I bet $20 on him being a troon.
 
WaPo will just write any article and hire anyone as long as involves Alphabet people, like when Nathan Grayson wrote a rag propping up gay twitch streamer Simooligan and #twitchdobetter back in 2021 because they said the right things not realizing that they gave the trolls what they wanted and accomplished nothing. Also Nathan Grayson got fired when WaPo did those layoffs so I guess it wasn't worth it.
 
I doubt there is a 'Clay.'

Sowing mistrust among enemy groups with claims of traitors in their midst (and the troon handmaidens at WaPo do consider KF to be an enemy) is a tried and true tactic of psychological warfare.

The troons probably still do have sleeper accounts on KF so they can post retarded shit, screencap it and then go 'see? Kiwifarms doxed me and threatened to rape my neovagina!'
 
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