These people truly do live in an alternate reality. Saw this comment at 1:53:56, about a minute into the call (unfortunately, as an ex-Sam Seder fan it was too painful to go further)

At this point Sam has said virtually nothing. He has claimed that Jesse "distorts the importance of this issue [trooning out children]... and are so fervent at pointing out the minutiae... in the face of what is actually happening on the ground" and promised to bring up an example that doesn't involve Jesse, oh, and also Sam made a snide comment about Jesse being TAHXIC. That's a fat nothingburger. Even without actually engaging with what Sam said, there's nothing there yet. Not that what he said was intelligent.