Official Kiwi Farms Man-Hate Thread

[RACISM]

This thread is one of the best threads on the site. Women to most men are absolutely inscrutable and seeing the honest opinions of them in a (semi) anonymous outlet is fucking gold dust, also I actually learned some stuff. Like the whole lesbian domestic violence thing being bullshit and how and why it was bullshit. I suppose I'm not entirely innocent of making mildly inflammatory statements here but I've tried to keep it reasonably civil. I haven't even posted in the women hate thread, or read it. I doubt I'd see anything I haven't already seen in there.

 

[Stan]

I was going to suggest Null give them their own whiny weenie subforum, but A&H already exists.

Having a pink lady subforum kinda concedes that the other forums are going to be a sexist shitshow, like the pink women-only cars in the Tokyo subway concede that subway groping at rush hour is an intractable issue there.

I’m okay with men needing their safe space
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This whole forum is a male safe space. Thats why they're so mad the women made one thread to complain about men; it makes them realise women are here and potentially reading what they write.

If married/in a relationship dudes can have their place to go "fucking women" idk
why the concept of women having the same thing is suddenly so baffling?

Because moids think women are NPCs with no inner sense of self or purpose of our own.

i don't have a problem with this thread's existence, i've found the critiques against male behaviors insightful and helpful. so, i don't see why you should have such a problem with the woman-thread that you felt the need to consistently shit up the thread, engaging in the same behavior that the butthurt incels did earlier in this thread. why sink to their level, especially if you're the superior sex?

Not sure what happened in the woman-bashing thread. Don't care. But I think you're lying about enjoying this thread if you hang out in the open, festering misogyny thread as well.

The woman-hating thread is full of homicidal coomers. This thread is full of women who wish men could do just a *little* better by their wives, daughters, moms, etc. We are not the same.

 

[RACISM]

Because moids think women are NPCs with no inner sense of self or purpose of our own.

I only think that of journalists. Like for example, Margaret Pless (you) who once wrote in NYMag "For KFers, anonymity isn’t a choice but a necessity — they know what they’re doing is probably illegal, and that their anonymity insulates them from any consequences. They know their “entertainment” harms vulnerable people, which is why some of them felt bad when that one target hanged herself. But, most important, they know that if their anonymity were compromised, their own community might eat them alive."

Why do you continue to post here Margaret?

 

[josef]

Not sure what happened in the woman-bashing thread. Don't care. But I think you're lying about enjoying this thread if you hang out in the open, festering misogyny thread as well.

The woman-hating thread is full of homicidal coomers. This thread is full of women who wish men could do just a *little* better by their wives, daughters, moms, etc. We are not the same.

i just want to get both sides of the issue, that's all. most of the people on there are retarded, sure, but there's interesting counterpoints sometimes.
also there are people this thread who straight up say "men can't be raped, just put your boner down lol" so i think there are some unreasonable elements here too lol.

 

[Stan]

i just want to get both sides of the issue, that's all. most of the people on there are retarded, sure, but there's interesting counterpoints sometimes.
also there are people this thread who straight up say "men can't be raped, just put your boner down lol" so i think there are some unreasonable elements here too lol.

I don't buy this false equivalence. The amplitude of sheer male rage in the Woman-hating thread is about ten times greater than any animosity or viciousness us girls have for the moids.

 

[josef]

I don't buy this false equivalence. The amplitude of sheer male rage in the Woman-hating thread is about ten times greater than any animosity or viciousness us girls have for the moids.

it's mainly 2 people on that thread who are guilty of perpetually doing that, one of which has been facedoxxed and ridiculed into oblivion and the other being his alt. even if i were to grant you that it's as bad as you claim, there are still some people with interesting things to say, as there are here.

 

[Herr Flick]

i just want to get both sides of the issue, that's all. most of the people on there are retarded, sure, but there's interesting counterpoints sometimes.
also there are people this thread who straight up say "men can't be raped, just put your boner down lol" so i think there are some unreasonable elements here too lol.

Dyn, the fellow you quoted, is a lad who was comparing apples to apples. Yes, of course, a man can rape another man with his sexual organ, but a woman can’t rape a man through nonconsensual sexual contact in the same way a man can to a woman. For it to work, a boner has to be involved. I shouldn’t have to explain this, are you retarded?

Furthermore, if a man can’t stop being horny for something he supposedly finds morally reprehensible (such as abuse or being raped,) then his moral fiber, his discomfort and/or his convictions are as straw before the raging of his own loins, and that is the critical, contemptible weakness that allows people who pretend to be upstanding citizens to violently rape and jack off to child porn.

What I’m saying is, maybe the whole narrative about the alleged popularity of the “being on the receiving end of rape” fantasy has been men projecting something they feel themselves onto women all along.

 

[josef]

Dyn, the fellow you quoted, is a lad who was comparing apples to apples. Yes, of course, a man can rape another man with his sexual organ, but a woman can’t rape a man through nonconsensual sexual contact in the same way a man can to a woman. For it to work, a boner has to be involved. I shouldn’t have to explain this, are you retarded?

Furthermore, if a man can’t stop being horny for something he supposedly finds morally reprehensible (such as abuse or being raped,) then his moral fiber, his discomfort and/or his convictions are as straw before the raging of his own loins, and that is the critical, contemptible weakness that allows people who pretend to be upstanding citizens to violently rape and jack off to child porn.

What I’m saying is, maybe the whole narrative about the alleged popularity of the “being on the receiving end of rape” fantasy has been men projecting something they feel themselves onto women all along.

see what i mean

 

[Alligator Alcatraz]

a woman can’t rape a man through nonconsensual sexual contact in the same way a man can to a woman. For it to work, a boner has to be involved.

A woman can rape a man anally. It doesn't even have to be with a strap on. There are many individuals who have been sexually assaulted with inanimate objects being held by the rapist. Wasn't there that girl who made a dog cartoon who was raped using a popcicle? And that dog who was raped by a furry with a stick covered in fire ants? I agree that a woman can't rape an unwilling man via penis-vaginal sex but it is a very closedminded take when rapists are so...openminded.

 

[Herr Flick]

A woman can rape a man anally.

Yes, but she can’t use her vagina to do it. That is my point.

 

[Dyn]

Men cannot be raped under any circumstances whatsoever because 'rape' involves a violation of sexual boundaries, and sexual boundaries are a completely and utterly alien concept to men. If a male "rape victim" gets physically injured then I guess it should be prosecuted as a misdemeanor assault or whatever, but at the end of the day he's going to be perfectly fine once his butthole heals up and it won't even bother him.

I don't know why it's even worth talking about, to be honest. Just more fake oppression olympics moid bullshit.

 

[Stan]

it's mainly 2 people on that thread who are guilty of perpetually doing that, one of which has been facedoxxed and ridiculed into oblivion and the other being his alt. even if i were to grant you that it's as bad as you claim, there are still some people with interesting things to say, as there are here.

If only the misogyny on Kiwi Farms could be contained to a single thread and pinpointed to a couple of users. But tbh there are entire subforums are just lousy with it, Thunderdome being the one I can attest to from personal experience. General Discussion is more casual sexism instead of over-the-top three alarm fire sexism, but just as rampant.

Like I said earlier: the fact that we're having this discussion in a pink-ghetto subforum instead of on General is sort of a concession that the sexism in the general population of Kiwi Farms is too oppressive for women to want to congregate there. It's like how the Tokyo subway has pink women-only cars on the rush hour trains. In both cases, the sexist behavior (here, misogynist writings, there, groping) is so rampant that it's easier to give the women a designated no-man zone than to get the men to straighten up their act.

For years I felt Kiwi Farms was honestly too sexist to be hospitable to female users at all, unless they pretended to be males. I think Gender Critical stuff changed that, because more women needed a place to honestly discuss what the tranny scum are doing, and other venues of discussion were shutting down any discussion of trannies that wasn't about how brave and beautiful trans people are. And with increased female "ridership", the Farms got marginally less sexist. And to his credit, Josh also changed his policies to be friendlier to women on the forum.

That said, there are still plenty of male users who come for the sexism, just like there are a bunch of users here who come for the holocaust denial community here.

 

[Lidl Drip]

I don't buy this false equivalence. The amplitude of sheer male rage in the Woman-hating thread is about ten times greater than any animosity or viciousness us girls have for the moids.

Yet I bet you that this thread produced a million times the amount of hurt feelings than anything the boys could ever say about women. Being the more emotionally intelligent sex means we know all of their weaknesses and can hurt them in way more creative and interesting ways than their "lonely old catlady" insults they keep repeating cause they can only project.

Also most women do not confront men on their terrible behavior, even over the Internet. We are just not socialized to seek conflict with people who can kill us easily, so a lot of them are genuinely shocked to see we think negative things about them. Now they wonder if the women on their life have similar thoughts (they do). Love to see it.

 

[JambledUpWords]

it's mainly 2 people on that thread who are guilty of perpetually doing that, one of which has been facedoxxed and ridiculed into oblivion and the other being his alt. even if i were to grant you that it's as bad as you claim, there are still some people with interesting things to say, as there are here.

The spam I had was mostly me just having fun and wanting to laugh. I eventually stopped. I’m a meme person at heart. Yeah, I intentionally made some insulting comments, but I did the same to this thread too. Obviously, I did have genuine discussion as well, but very rarely was taken very seriously, hence primarily the joking around. If you wish to have actually productive discussion in that thread, maybe don’t immediately start off insulting every single woman that dares try to see your side.

 

[Lidl Drip]

Idk how men can pretend their woman-hate thread is in any way comparable to this thread. For one they have an entire subforum dedicated to their woman-hate and can hate women freely all across the site without receiving any backlash for it. They are not discussing anything that they couldn't discuss anywhere else on the site. They are just repeating the same old "lul whuite women fuck dogs and nigger" memes from /pol/ that they post everywhere else as well. Meanwhile we can't have a single thread without being harassed daily. Oh no, one or two posters shat up your thread?? There must be upwards of 50 men who have came in here now to shit up this thread. It's just not comparable at all, all it shows is how badly men want to be oppressed, and want to feel victimized so they can whine about it. One of the main reasons men troon out. It's utterly pathetic.

 

[Party Hat Wurmple]

lol, yeah. "Hate" seems to be kind of a colloquialism here since we obviously don't express it via rapemurderassault the way a number of men do. and it really floors me at times how much they sabotage their own relationship prospects by acting so insane, because I really don't think the bar of behavior which would avoid the kind of hostility expressed here is that high. I'm in a relationship too, that I consider very high quality and loving. my boyfriend just doesn't act like a fucking retard porn addict who thinks he has me all figured out because of some stupid shit some other guy or some tragically mentally ill woman on social media told him

I didn't read through this whole thread but something I noticed that guys say is if you don't want to get hurt, sleep with better men. "Stop sleeping with the bad boys!" But I don't think they understand that plenty of times the "nice guys" just turn into ass holes once they get some. I don't see it as much now that I'm older but I used to see that a lot among teenagers and those are the years we base a lot of our dating choices on down the line. There's a sunk cost fallacy of "Well I want to know what I'm getting" that I think we go through when we're younger that people like to ignore.

 

[AGPinochet]

genuinely puzzled as to why so many men are obsessed with the idea of white women fucking dogs.

laaaaaaaaaaaate
While I can't speak to how many men are "obsessed" with "White Girls Fuck Dogs" (WGFD) many in this thread (falsely) attribute the phenomenon's emergence to "porn addiction" when in reality the origin lays with a Hispanic christian fundamentalist known only as Common Filth (CF), host of Tumblristas and Common Filth Radio. CF had a relatively popular series of about 100 videos (Tumblristas) going deep into the depths of degenerate internet spaces (usually on Tumblr) and criticizing them from a right wing moralistic perspective. One of the most commonly attacked communities was the Furry/Zoophile community, various postings would be read aloud by CF and followed by a sharp and witty attack usually with sound/special effects added (in the case of Zoophiles it would usually be a howling dog with a photo of a shocked dog staring at the camera). The WGFD meme became fairly popular in niche right wing circles who were fans on common filth, eventually spreading to incel circles (most probably by common filth fans who overlapped).
I can't be assed to watch several hours of Tumblristas to pinpoint the exact episode in which it emerged but here is the playlist for anyone really, really curious

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmBMqf0imaQ&list=PL-2bz4cz80PVdkKD2SWnia7PuZhteuaU1

The meme was popular enough for minor E-celeb Rusty Cage (who IIRC was internet friends with CF) to make a song about it

 

[Lidl Drip]

laaaaaaaaaaaate
While I can't speak to how many men are "obsessed" with "White Girls Fuck Dogs" (WGFD) many in this thread (falsely) attribute the phenomenon's emergence to "porn addiction" when in reality the origin lays with a Hispanic christian fundamentalist known only as Common Filth (CF), host of Tumblristas and Common Filth Radio. CF had a relatively popular series of about 100 videos (Tumblristas) going deep into the depths of degenerate internet spaces (usually on Tumblr) and criticizing them from a right wing moralistic perspective. One of the most commonly attacked communities was the Furry/Zoophile community, various postings would be read aloud by CF and followed by a sharp and witty attack usually with sound/special effects added (in the case of Zoophiles it would usually be a howling dog with a photo of a shocked dog staring at the camera). The WGFD meme became fairly popular in niche right wing circles who were fans on common filth, eventually spreading to incel circles (most probably by common filth fans who overlapped).
I can't be assed to watch several hours of Tumblristas to pinpoint the exact episode in which it emerged but here is the playlist for anyone really, really curious

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmBMqf0imaQ&list=PL-2bz4cz80PVdkKD2SWnia7PuZhteuaU1

The meme was popular enough for minor E-celeb Rusty Cage (who IIRC was internet friends with CF) to make a song about it

The issue is that a lot of men can not tell apart a joke and reality and have started to genuinely believe that women are regularly having sex with dogs. And the reason they are willing to believe that and can't tell it's a joke is because they watch too much degenerate porn. Also why is the meme about women if the guy went into Furry/Zoophile places? Those are almost entirely made up of men. It would make more sense to make a meme about white men fucking dogs, but no it had to be about women and that's because they find it sexually exciting.

or did they provide their own pushback in a way you didn't like?

Oh yeah they gave some great insights and pushback like "LOL GET RAPED! RAAAAAAPE!!!!! I HOPE YOU ALL GET RAPED!!!". Fuck off and go whine in your dedicated weenie whiny thread. Absolutely unreal that you are shitting up our thread while complaining about your thread being shat up without any sort of sense of self awareness. Null came in and banned all the femoids and site-banned the guy who was spamming copypastas, why are you still bitching? Listen to Null and quit your bitching nigga.

 

[JambledUpWords]

from what i saw, the main person acting dismissive of you was that retard decline

It was more than just him. @Radion_Godiva did as well. While they were probably the biggest offenders, other men in the thread were definitely encouraging that behavior because “lol women are dumb.”

 

[AGPinochet]

Also why is the meme about women if the guy went into Furry/Zoophile places?

Because there is a relatively (in)amous clip of a trashy white woman literally saying "Yeah, I fuck dogs, Its not a big deal" featured in the series