‘What If No One Wants Me After I Transition?’

‘What If No One Wants Me After I Transition?’​

By J.P. Brammer, a Cut contributor and author of the “Hola Papi” column.

¡Hola, Papi!
So, I realized I’m a guy. Yay. Unfortunately, I’m also British.
I’m looking at being postmenopausal before I get testosterone. I’m fat and very feminine looking. Can I flirt with gay guys? Will any of them want me back? My tits weigh about two stone. I’m loved, but with fatness and surgery, will I ever be desired again? The gap between the desirable woman I was ten years ago and the invisible,
never-seen-as-a-man current self is considerable. I sometimes wonder about not transitioning, because at least as a fat woman I’d keep the only “hot” features I have (the aforementioned tits. People love ’em. I don’t)
I guess I’m just scared and alone and wanting to know I’m worth something.
Signed,
Seeking Value


Hey there, SV!

I’m sorry to hear that you’re British. I will do my best to look past it, but I appreciate your patience as I work through my deeply entrenched biases.

As for the heart of your issue, I should note up top that I am not trans, and I’m sure there are aspects of the journey you’re embarking on that would go right over my head. If anything I say here doesn’t serve you, please chalk it up to my cluelessness. That said, I do see a lot I can relate to in your letter.

Like most people, I want to be wanted. Being wanted feels great, especially as a person who always felt locked out of beauty. I grew up with a pretty sister and two pretty girl cousins I went everywhere with, and people would stop them on the street to ask if they were all sisters because they were so beautiful. Meanwhile, I stood back in my XXL Pokémon shirt from Walmart wondering why God allowed me to be born. I couldn’t even step into Claire’s! Dreadful.

This feeling of ugliness led me to a lot of behaviors that some might call “destructive.” I fasted, I whittled myself down to skin and bones, and, you know what? I did get a lot of positive comments from people at that time, along with the occasional “Are you sick?” question. I was, like, low-key dying, but that didn’t seem to matter! I got what I was after, albeit at great personal expense.

I think, SV, when we do that, when we prove that we’re willing to harm ourselves for the sake of validation from other people, we’re sending ourselves a dangerous message. We’re saying, “Other people’s opinions are more valuable than your well-being,” or even, “Other people are more valuable than you.” And that kind of thing sticks with you! It makes you trust yourself less, and makes you resent yourself more.

When that fundamental relationship is damaged, it colors absolutely everything else in our lives. Yes, SV, it’s possible to edit yourself into something that other people might see more value in, but when it comes at the expense of your own needs, when it demands that you deny your true self, that’s when it stops being worth it, and that’s when you need to consider if you’re prioritizing strangers over the person you’ve been charged with taking care of every single day (you).

And, look, I know. It’s not as simple as saying, “Screw everyone else, I have to be me,” and it’s not like we can or even should totally avoid doing things to make ourselves more appealing to others. This stuff is complicated. Yes, it can bring us pleasure and increase our confidence to, say, dress ourselves up real nice, or take some steamy photos, or hit the gym to get a nice chest pump (a personal favorite of mine. Fella to fella, I’m here to tell you guys can have nice chests too).

But ultimately we have to recognize that we were not put on this earth to accommodate other people’s desires, and you can’t live your whole life worrying about if other people will want you. Is it a factor? Yes! That much is inevitable, and I won’t pretend otherwise. But there are more important things than being considered conventionally attractive.

And, who knows? You’re pursuing a massive change, one that will put you in closer alignment with your truth. It will come with its unique challenges, yes, but it could very well open up avenues of love, expression, and confidence that were previously unavailable to you. What if you find new things to appreciate about yourself? What if it leads to you looking at yourself in an entirely different way? Something to consider!

As for flirting with gay guys, look, I’ve been a gay guy for a long time now, and I still can’t predict gay-guy behavior beyond general reception to a new Kylie Minogue song and broad financial habits that trend toward “In debt, but with hot pics in Mykonos.” When in doubt, just be like, “Poppers.” That always gets a little giggle or two.

In any case, you should recognize, SV, that there’s a decent chance we only get one shot at living. One thing I’ve always admired about the trans community is the acknowledgment that while there’s a lot we can’t control in this world, there is also self-determination. That there is in each of us the ability to create a future that holds more happiness, more truth, and more beauty than the one that was foisted on us. That’s something everyone, regardless of identity, should embrace.

And I hope that as you go on your way, you’re able to prove to yourself that you’re willing to put yourself before the approval of strangers. Yes, approval can feel nice, but it can also hem you in. Sometimes, the good stuff lies beyond other people’s expectations.

Con mucho amor,
Papi

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I’m looking at being postmenopausal before I get testosterone.

Good. Good on Britain to put the brakes on the distribution of hormone pills to insecure people. Rare British W.

I’m fat and very feminine looking.

Work out and eat less. You are feminine looking because you are a woman. Its normal.

Can I flirt with gay guys? Will any of them want me back?

No. They are gay guys, and they like men. Masculine men.

I’m loved, but with fatness and surgery, will I ever be desired again?

Pretending to be someone else will probably ruin every relationship you may have.

I sometimes wonder about not transitioning,

Listen to that thought, and don't do it. Do not ruin you life in pursuit of a fantasy.

I guess I’m just scared and alone and wanting to know I’m worth something.

Work out a bit. Get a cat. Get a hobby. Go outside, and spend less time online.

And do not listen to the fake validation of online hugboxes. Kindness often comes from those who are willing to tell you what you do not want to hear.
 
One of the most dangerous elements of the tranny cult is they specifically prey on lonely fucks who think they will somehow magically find love if they take the troonpill. It becomes extremely obvious with how many pre-op trannies still want to date women and still fetishize women - if you're into women and you're already a man and want to use your penis with women, just fuck women as man. But they fall for this mass psychosis bullshit and start to troon out but then realize women repulse them. So then they start to decide maybe they just need to become women, and start to fetishize men. The tranny cult continues to warp their minds and convince them they will finally "pass" and be attractive to others if only they take HRT and get surgery.
Eventually, in loneliness, they succumb. They take HRT and render themselves infertile and even more mentally unstable, and many of them go the extra mile and get their genitals mutilated. This does not give them a vagina, but a rotting, festering wound which they will then have to clean and dilate every day simply to not get infected. It will stink and will repulse every sane human within breathing range. No one of any value, no normal human, will ever want anything to do with them sexually after that. Even most other trannies will not want to have sex with them. They will almost certainly die alone, incapable of reproducing, and mocked by all around them.
And it could have all been avoided by just losing some fucking weight and not being so retarded around women. Sad.
Mostly correct but you don't see the big picture.

In the old days you had natural selection that would weed out all the subhumans and all the retards and others with poor genetics or weak in body.
They would generally die off quite rapidly so their defective genes would not propagate. Nature solved this by creating highly poisonous animals with bright colors that normal humans would avoid but tards would eat and then die.
Protecting humanitys survival.

Today we have a different epidemic with sub-human troons and other degenerates that threaten humanitys long term survival. And nature once again stepped in and made sure all these defect sub-humans will get a huge desire to 1) voluntarily sterlize themselves and 2) later remove themselves from the gene pool in various heroic ways.
Once again, nature is wise beyond mans comprehension and creates a trap for the dead-ends and a future for the viable genes.

Marvel at the wisdom of nature.
 
if?

Lots of pooners going thru this, what should we call this phenomenom?

Poonshock? reverse-incelization?
Here’s a quote that I think sums it up pretty well, at least insofar as TIFs really don’t understand what they’re getting into.

The mass of men lead lives of quiet desperation. What is called resignation is confirmed desperation. From the desperate city you go into the desperate country, and have to console yourself with the bravery of minks and muskrats. A stereotyped but unconscious despair is concealed even under what are called the games and amusements of mankind. There is no play in them, for this comes after work. But it is a characteristic of wisdom not to do desperate things..

-Henry David Thoreau

Sorry. I’ve been on a classic lit kick recently.
 
Poonstruck?
LOL. Now I need this shooped. Wish I had any talent for that kind of thing. 😟
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Which would be doubly ironic, given that Cher's (fat) daughter did in fact troon out. Did her son, too? Can't remember.
 
Another one setting themselves up for failure by openly admitting they're attracted to men, but plan to reject all except the gay ones. Why do pooners always do this? If you want to date men, you can just do that. You are not going to attract a gold star gay, though, but why does it really matter? No fucking shit no one is going to want you post-transition when you're openly controlling, entitled and narcissistic enough to demand potential partners only describe themselves or their identity in ways that validate your delusion or fit whatever image you're desperate to project. At best you'll settle for an equally desperate, self-obsessed Gayden and you can larp together while you both feed into each other's drama and try to ignore the low level of mutual resentment.
 
Another one setting themselves up for failure by openly admitting they're attracted to men, but plan to reject all except the gay ones. Why do pooners always do this? If you want to date men, you can just do that. You are not going to attract a gold star gay, though, but why does it really matter? No fucking shit no one is going to want you post-transition when you're openly controlling, entitled and narcissistic enough to demand potential partners only describe themselves or their identity in ways that validate your delusion or fit whatever image you're desperate to project. At best you'll settle for an equally desperate, self-obsessed Gayden and you can larp together while you both feed into each other's drama and try to ignore the low level of mutual resentment.
These women and girls are so intoxicated by the yaoi fanfic fantasy world that the only loving relationship they can conceive exists between two males. They’ve put m/m relationships on a high and ridiculous pedestal of uwu soft bois, ukes, boy band members and sexy cannibals— who are all verbose, romantic and monogamous; rather than the reality of gay male relationships as largely superficial, polyamorous, and based on measures of age and attractiveness that a woman could never begin to even fake her way into.
 
there are more important things than being considered conventionally attractive.
As if that's the only reason no one with any sense wants a tranny.

Even "attractive" trannies still tend to be uglier than any comparable man or woman the tranny is emulating. Seen alone, there are some FTMs who can look cute and boyish or dapper and handsome, but put them against any man of similar type, and the FTMs look like wan Victorian children.

And that's not getting into how insufferable and useless they are. Trannies are emotional and financial sinkholes. If you're stupid enough to stick around long term, they will ruin your life. That trannies can get laid with normals at all is solely because society has yet to catch up with the realities of trannydom.
 
Another one setting themselves up for failure by openly admitting they're attracted to men, but plan to reject all except the gay ones. Why do pooners always do this? If you want to date men, you can just do that. You are not going to attract a gold star gay, though, but why does it really matter? No fucking shit no one is going to want you post-transition when you're openly controlling, entitled and narcissistic enough to demand potential partners only describe themselves or their identity in ways that validate your delusion or fit whatever image you're desperate to project. At best you'll settle for an equally desperate, self-obsessed Gayden and you can larp together while you both feed into each other's drama and try to ignore the low level of mutual resentment.
The pooners are a different type of crazy and this will only end in tears.
Look, pooner, gay men do not want vagina. They don't.
No matter how much you dress like a man, call yourself a man and grow a thin pube-hair beard, gay men will still not want to have sex with you. Because they
are not into vagina. And they absolutely under no circumstances want to have sex with a woman with a coke-can fake cock grafted on.

But hey, you don't believe me because I am transphobic? Ok, sure.
Go ahead, transition and see for yourself then how your sex-life with gay men will turn out.
 
There really is no difference between troons and incels.

1. Both blame an imagery enemy instead of looking inward at why life sucks.

2. Both are in a cult like group that is an echo chamber saying they can do no wrong.

3. Both think life is only about sexual conquest.

4. Both think vanity surgery and superficial labels will change everything for them.

5. Both are pathetic and treat women as stereotypes.
 
Do I post the Dan Bunten/Danielle Berry response again? I think I do. There's more, but this is probably the most relevant part:

So, needless to say, my life as a woman is not an ultimate turn-on. And what did it all cost? Over $30,000 and the loss of most of my relationships to family and friends. And the costs don't end. Every relationship I make now and in the future has to come to terms with the sex-change. And I'm not the only one who suffers. I hate the impact this will have on my kids and their future.

Anyway, I'm making it sound awful and it's not. There are some perks but the important things like being comfortable with myself and having a true love in my life don't seem like they were contingent on the change. Being my "real self" could have included having a penis and including more femininity in whatever forms made sense. I didn't know that until too late and now I have to make the best of the life I've stumbled into. I just wish I would have tried more options before I jumped off the precipice. I miss my easy access to my kids (unlike many TS's I didn't completely lose access to them though), I miss my family and old friends (I know they "shouldn't" have abandoned me but lots of folks aren't as open minded as they "should" be ... I still miss them) and finally, I hate the disconnect with my past (there's just no way to integrate the two unrelated lives). There's any number of ways to express your gender and sexuality and the only one I tried was the big one. I'll never know if I could have found a compromise that might have worked a lot better than the "one size fits all" sex-change. Please, check it out yourself before you do likewise.
 
I think a lot of people change sexes because they know they're unattractive as the sex they are and think that transitioning is a kind of "reset button" that will turn them into someone more attractive and desired. It's certainly the reason why Chris Chan trooned out. When I think of troons, I think of that SNL skit where the travel agent has to come on TV and explain to Americans why going to Italy isn't going to solve all of their problems. "You'll still be the same sad you, only now you'll be in a different place." Only in this case it's "You'll still be the same sad loser and still have the same mental problems and hangups that kept you from getting dates, only now you'll have a chopped up and inferior set of genitalia."
 
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