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[goh]

Mexican government talks about and shows off alien bodies in their possession.

I almost wish this was true just because the "real" aliens looking like paper mache is deeply funny to me.

the only relevent part
"However, in a blow to people hoping for proof of alien visitations of Earth, the samples were concluded to be a 100 percent match to human DNA."

...How the fuck are those lil niggas human and not play-doh?

 

[GradeAGobbleDeeGook]

...How the fuck are those lil niggas human and not play-doh?

people have answers to that question like "they made it look that way by working it down with tools"
but me personally, i stopped at the bodies already having already been tested, anything further that comes from these people is utter garbage
you could argue further with people as to why they look that way but all that really matters are the test results

 

[CoolFool]

I'm reading up on the Mexico hearing, so far it sounds like they said "FUCK IT" and dropped a bunch of shit (videos, pictures, and even brought out real "bodies" ). I looked at the list of speakers, I have no idea who most of these people are, so idk how much salt to take with their claims. Either way, I do wonder how USA is going to respond, especially today, since NASA is supposed to be talking about their findings on UAP.

Anyway, I have to get to work so I can't read up more, here's some translated reddit posts about the bodies and stuff:

• Bodies 60 cm tall covered in a white powder that under electron microscopy are revealed to be a type of common algae (diatom), which preserves the bodies and inhibits bacterial growth, naturally conserving the bodies.
  
  
• Humanoid structure with hands and feet having only three 'fingers'. The bones show signs of wear in the place where you'd expect from motion, and they are tough, but light, like a bird's.
  
  
• The head is very large relative to the body. The cranium is likewise tough but lightweight, with a large intracranial cavity which contained a large brain. The eyeholes are very large and would permit great stereoscopic vision. Very short nasal cavities, and a mouth cavity that by its mandibular articulation and complete absence of teeth indicates they ate by drinking and cannot masticate.
  
  
• The neck is strangely connected to the center of the skull, which is unusual because in primates the neck is usually joined at the back of the skull. The 4 or 5 cervical vertebrae suggest that the neck was slgihtly retractable, like a tortoise. The beginning of the thorax has joints to the arms similar to a bird's. The ribcages bones are completely continuous and circular and the space between them is small.
  
  
• In the abdomen we can see the presence of three eggs, and in the abdominal cavity, using tomography we can see at the milimetric level that there exist oviducts containing milimetric eggs, suggesting this creature was in a process of constant gestation. This is further proof they are biological and organical, as their method of reproduction including the milimetric eggs in the oviducts would be impossible to fake.
  
  
• We can also observe through tomography the muscles, ligaments, blood vessels and organs and organelles that are yet to be defined in future studies. There is complete harmony in the wear down near all the joints, consistent with their biomechanical locomotion that ends in fingers that have 5 falanges used to grab and manipulate objects (since they have no thumbs). They dont have carpal or tarsus bones, the falanges connect directly to the arm and forearm bones. They find microscopic bubbles(?) in the fingers which they clame are impossible to fake. He makes a comment on them having a square something I cannot translate, being weird as most animals on this planet have them round or circular.
  
  
• Some of the bodies have metallic implants perfectly lodged into their bodies and up to the skin, fused with it. The metals are several combinations of which the worthy mentions are osmium and cadmium (osmium is the rarest precious metal on Earth and the Universe, we use it in satellite communication).
  
  
• The DNA results were compared with over 1000000 known species, and the results show that on one of them, 70% of its genetic material matches known sequences, leaving a difference of unidentified 30%. This is relevant because humans relative to primates have less than 5% difference, and have less than 15% when compared to bacteria. The results are published online, free for anyone to research.

For anyone just finding this post. They are explaining how these are 2 different unknown species that have never been seen before. They have already gathered genetic information and backed it up to a DNA database that's apparently accessible by other scientists anyone to verify all the claims they are making right now.


They showed the list of tests that have been done to these bodies, included tests from metallurgy specialists, radiologists and geneticists. They've verified the authenticity and age of the bodies.

They showed scans of their insides that showed metal implants in some of them, as well as eggs with embryos/organic material inside of them.

They mentioned briefly the efforts of various government bodies that tried to block this as well as spread misinformation claiming that "the egg shapes were metal objects inserted into the mummified bodies". They also talked broadly about not being taken seriously and experts immediately dismissing the mummies without testing them.


They continued showing examples from old civilizations that contain depictions of similarly shaped beings.


This is roughly summarized, and I love the way he's closing his segment by saying "Please doubt me, start with the hypothesis that everything is false but then I encourage you to approach it and do your own research. Lets keep this from falling into the wrong hands"


Edit. Jaime just added it makes sense scientists all across are against this as it would mean that we need to re-evaluate our history, additionally, they claimed prestigious archeologist discredited the mummies without even checking them in a lab first. -- And now there's a forensic scientist that's explaining the scans of these beings, as well as talking about some of substances found on their body. -- They continue to show absolutely stunning scans of their bodies, you can clearly see the bones and brain structure/tissue. -- They are also explaining how some of these elements are basically impossible to falsify. -- He's going in depth about their hipothesis as to how their joints and motor functions would've worked. This is absolutely wild.

Edit 2. They just said they compared the DNA with over 1 million other samples and that this is nothing like we've ever seen before, going away from the Darwinian theory of evolution. -- Apparently all of this information is also accessible for anyone who wants to corroborate it. -- They are finishing up by saying that they can 100% verify that these were, at one point, real living creatures.

Edit 3. This is the link they they showed directing people that want to corroborate the DNA information https://imgur.com/a/W8hZjYI. -- It also seems that they are continuing by bringing up more experts that are just basically corroborating all the tests previously mentioned. -- It feels like they want to leave 0 room for confusion about the veracity of these tests. These guys are definitely sure about their results... wow. -- For anyone looking at the data, it's important to note they mentioned that some of the samples had a high percentage of contamination from materials/insects/elements from where they were found, the rest of the DNA material did not match any of the known organism on Earth.

For whoever is wondering why it's classified as "Homo-sapiens" please read u/tichacodoh1 's comment. They explained it better than I did!

Links here


https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sra/prjna869134


https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sra/prjna865375


https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sra/prjna861322





Edit 4. They just gave their closing statement, hoping that this is going to be the first of many more to come 'serious discussions about the subject'. -- Also, important to note, at no point these were referred to as "extraterrestrials", instead, they just referred to it as "non-human (intelligence)"

 

[The Mass Shooter Ron Soye]

https://www.newsnationnow.com/space/ufo/nasa-to-unveil-ufo-report-this-week/

https://archive.ph/uk8zT

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NASA will release a UAP report online, maybe here, tomorrow at 9:30 AM EDT, with a briefing on NASA TV at 10:00 AM EDT for up to an hour. Expect it to be lamer than a dried Mexican child.

 

[Catch The Rainbow]

I'm skeptical about the bodies but if proven real then now what? They're a thousand years old and we don't know shit about them other than they were vaguely associated with the Nazca lines.

 

[CoolFool]

I want to talk about something I have not seen brought up here, reddit, or elsewhere. Has anyone else been seeing/hearing ads to join the US Space Force? I'm not even talking about targeted ads on videos, I'm talking about ads on the radio and at local businesses.

A couple of weeks ago, I kept hearing recruitment ads for the US Space Force on the radio on my way to work. I finally remembered to look it up yesterday when I came home. https://www.spaceforce.com/

I find the whole thing a little odd. I haven't seen this kind of military recruitment drive in a while. It's even more odd because, well, it's not like this branch has been around long (2019) and since we aren't fighting anything in space or space related, there's apparently only 8,000 officers (or Guardians, as they are officially called) enlisted in the US Space Force right now.

I looked on the website listed above (gotta love that creepy ambient music in the background) and it looks like you don't need extra smarts to join. The qualifications for most careers are more or less the same kind of stuff you'd see for the Army, Navy, or Marines. There's a couple of careers that require college degrees but most you just need a high school diploma and a decent score on the ASVAB.

The weirdest part for me is, why are these ads showing up in my neck of the woods? I live in Bumfuck Nowhere in the South, and there are no US Space Force bases near me. There aren't even regular military bases near me. This place also isn't known for intelligence so it's not like they're going to find nerdy space college degree holders here for those special occupations.

I can understand when we get local radio and business ads for the Army or other branches out here, because they just want bodies for war related shit, but this is the SPACE FORCE we're talking about here. Again, this is a branch that is new and no one is getting deployed. Why do they need people to join that branch when there's nothing going on at the moment and apparently no proof of UAPs/aliens anyways?

This makes me wonder if something is about to happen. Given all the crazy shit happening lately, maybe we really are about to go to war and it's going to be in space, or at least the threats will come from space. I don't know why else the military would waste money trying to fill this branch especially when the other areas of the US Military are in desperate need for bodies as it is, why not focus on those branches?

 

[Catch The Rainbow]

I find the whole thing a little odd. I haven't seen this kind of military recruitment drive in a while. It's even more odd because, well, it's not like this branch has been around long (2019) and since we aren't fighting anything in space or space related, there's apparently only 8,000 officers (or Guardians, as they are officially called) enlisted in the US Space Force right now.

I looked on the website listed above (gotta love that creepy ambient music in the background) and it looks like you don't need extra smarts to join. The qualifications for most careers are more or less the same kind of stuff you'd see for the Army, Navy, or Marines. There's a couple of careers that require college degrees but most you just need a high school diploma and a decent score on the ASVAB.

I assume they still need grunts to fuel stuff, perform repairs, etc since they are gradually losing access to air force grunts as the two service branches disentangle. You're also in prime recruiting country.

 

[A Proud Black Woman]

They want you to join and indoctrinate you into becoming a femboi for Joe Biden! Trust me I am black!

 

[Miller]

In the abdomen we can see the presence of three eggs, and in the abdominal cavity, using tomography we can see at the milimetric level that there exist oviducts containing milimetric eggs, suggesting this creature was in a process of constant gestation. This is further proof they are biological and organical, as their method of reproduction including the milimetric eggs in the oviducts would be impossible to fake.

They're small bags of cocaine. The Ayy was a mule who died trying to bring cocaine to Zeta Reticuli.

Some of the bodies have metallic implants perfectly lodged into their bodies and up to the skin, fused with it. The metals are several combinations of which the worthy mentions are osmium and cadmium (osmium is the rarest precious metal on Earth and the Universe, we use it in satellite communication).

I'm not american, I'm just sharing a random thought but could the metallic implants be some sort of ornament? Let's say it's not an alien but a kid born with strange bone structures and they used him/her as an offering to the calm the gods? I've heard stories about the astecs (or was it another civilization?) that would find a way to change the form of the skull of a child so it would look more like an egg.

 

[tehpope]

Muta jumps on. He's done other UAP vids and shit mind you.

 

[HarveyMCR]

I'd be a lot less skeptical if they didn't look EXACTLY like "Ayy LMAO"s

 

[Hector Hamsteak]

I'd be a lot less skeptical if they didn't look EXACTLY like "Ayy LMAO"s

Yeah this is a common point of criticism from skeptics whenever a UFO story develops too. Just how much of the story the witnesses leak that sound like reused pieces from previous older stories, due to the fact a liar will take them and reuse them as a way to lend aspects of legitimacy to their story. Most people just aren't creative enough to make up their own stories so if I was to ask a random person to make up a fake alien, i'd expect an AYYLMAO looking motherfucker just like these dudes.

 

[Sinner's Sandwich]

Humanoid structure with hands and feet having only three 'fingers'. The bones show signs of wear in the place where you'd expect from motion, and they are tough, but light, like a bird's.

The beginning of the thorax has joints to the arms similar to a bird's.

In the abdomen we can see the presence of three eggs

...do you know where birds come from?

Dinosaurs. Were these weird little Goblins sentient tiny dinosaurs that turned into bird-like people?

We already know that other humans existed so it could be possible that some animals also started to walk on two legs & talk.

That's even more fascinating than visitors from outer space.

...if it's not all a hoax of course.

 

[The Cheese Aisle]

I can’t tell if I believe it more or less coming from Mexico.

 

[ovqsnfat]

The DNA results were compared with over 1000000 known species, and the results show that on one of them, 70% of its genetic material matches known sequences, leaving a difference of unidentified 30%. This is relevant because humans relative to primates have less than 5% difference, and have less than 15% when compared to bacteria. The results are published online, free for anyone to research.

I'm more interested in the methodology for collecting the DNA than anything else here. The English language reporting seems to be all over the place on this point. One article says that the DNA was extracted using radiocarbon dating (A) which makes no fucking sense. Another (in what appears to be an article off a newswire) says that its not clear if DNA tests were carried out at all (A).

Its times like this I wish I was fluent in spic, so I could figure out what the fuck is really going on.

 

[HarveyMCR]

I'm skeptical about the bodies but if proven real then now what? They're a thousand years old and we don't know shit about them other than they were vaguely associated with the Nazca lines.

I don't think these are real. They look too much like a text book alien, and it's like "why would these things have such poor evolutionary features (3 fingers which cannot grasp anything?). In my mind, there's two (three I guess?) main options

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1) They're terrestrial: This is what I'm leaning towards. Like one of the biggest thing that screams out to me is "how would these things eat". Stomachs/digestive systems are not universal. If humans discovered a planet teaming with life, and we landed there, we couldn't just eat random plants/animals. The human stomach is able to break down foods into energy because we have guts with proteins that have spent eons developing alongside the rest of life on Earth. This leaves, again, two options.


-They're (modern) humans: Children hit 60cms at about 6 months old. Preindustrial humans probably hit that at around a year old. That is plenty of time to coerce the body into abnormal shapes like with Chinese Foot Bindings or Meso American Skull Binding. We have parents willing to chop off their children's dick in the modern day. Is it unreasonable to think that the Ancient Meso-American priests didn't say: "Your child was born sick and weak. He will not survive to adulthood but we can transition him to a god! You just need to bind his head and squish his face so he takes their appearance, and then after he dies cut off his first and last finger/toe since they will not be needed in heaven."?


- They're not (modern) humans: Maybe these are just birds that just look like humans. Maybe these are an ancient race of humanoids which diverged from Homo Sapiens tens of thousands of years ago. Maybe they were smarter than us, maybe they were dumber than us. Maybe they were trapped on an island with next to no food that encouraged them to shrink and swap their appendages to those of sloths/tree climbers so they could get to food easier. Maybe their land mass collided with South America 10,000 years ago, and they briefly spread to the mainland (where they were occasionally found by Meso-Americans) until the Spanish Conquests and they finally died. Either way, they would go down in history as a "Wow, that's really cool. This is what humans could've been like" and not much more.

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2) They're extraterrestrial: All bets on what we know about the world are off. The fact that they're here and we've managed to capture several specimens means that alien travel to Earth is not only common, but frequent and easy. These beings would be operating at a level of intelligence and technological capabilities incomprehensible to us. We may be the intergalactic equivalent of a nature reserve/uncontacted tribe/truck stop, but we would no longer be the masters of our own fate since these things could destroy human life in an instant if they so choose to. It would also imply that life is not only common in the Universe, but intelligent life is also common and probably has a billion year head start on humans. There's nothing we can really do about this but live with the anxiety of knowing that we're like toddlers sitting along side NFL Quarterbacks.


I don't think these are real though. Like look at them for 30 seconds. They look like Hollywood designed them. If Earth was special enough to visit and die on, they would probably have some infrastructure here to support themselves. Either aliens are literally everywhere and we just haven't noticed, or this is fake and gay. I'm more inclined to believe the later.

 

[A Cat in a Minefield]

This shit looks so fucking fake. I would like to believe it's real, but they look just way to "typically alien".

 

[Whoopsie Daisy]

(since they have no thumbs).

70% of its genetic material matches known sequences, leaving a difference of unidentified 30%. This is relevant because humans relative to primates have less than 5% difference, and have less than 15% when compared to bacteria.

Both of these could point them being pre-primate in origin. 30% unidentified doesn't mean we have never seen this DNA, it's just that it no longer exists. The rise of Homo Sapiens saw mass extinctions on every continent because we wiped life out at an alarming, cataclysmic rate.

Consider the arguments over pigmy people and Homo denisovans, the constant shifting of the timeline of how old Homo Sapiens are and how, at best, evolutionary science is a guess, there's every chance that these things are terrestrial extinct species.

There was a scientific paper released a few years ago that theorised and best-it-could prove that there were flying primates millions of years ago. It's possible that, as @HarveyMC says, that these are just dinosaur/bird/mammals.

A cross over species has happened, complete with scientific dismissal for decades and within our recent history. The Duck-Billed Platypus was this creature; and it has a bit of mammal, bird and reptile in it.

What we're looking at could be the duck-billed platypus of bird, reptile and the earliest primates.

 

[ChromaQuack]

This shit looks so fucking fake. I would like to believe it's real, but they look just way to "typically alien".

Mexican Narco politicians desperately throwing shit at the wall and seeing how they can get people to talk about literally anything else.

 

[Dire Dire Cocks]

Mexican government talks about and shows off alien bodies in their possession.

Stealing this from /x/ because it explains the situation well

“First of all, let me tell you that the Peru alien mummies are not something new, the "discovery" was in many news sites back in 2017. The guy behind the team who "found" the mummies, in Peru, is Jaime Maussan, he is a known charlatan who sells Omnilife products (dietary supplements AKA snake oil).
These mummies were debunked many, many times back in 2017/2018 and now they return as a Mexican government money-maker machine!
The video below shows how "professional", the team who "found" these bodies, truly were. The guy in the video is one step away from cartel material (jk but he does look suspicious), and the way he moves the alleged mummies/fossilized aliens around is all but far from how an archeologist works, after all these are supposedly fragile and old (1000 years according to Jaime Maussan).

https://youtu.be/RvP9Cbn094Y?si=UEpDMoqkG_wnFW66

I also left a photo of an art project made by a guy who wanted to recreate the mummies with easy-to-find materials.
Don't be fooled, they are here, and there are bodies in the hands of the US government, but this isn't it.”


Photo the guy posted