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Dyn said:
Absolutely it is. It's not like "Oh hey bro I noticed you being pretty healthy and happy in your masculinity, that's just not manly bro, we need to fix you", it's just all the little things like if you ever cry over something that isn't lifeshatteringly important, men will treat you like an embarrassing faggot
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I understand that, and that's what I'm saying I never experience. Never once in my life felt like I couldn't cry around people. If some cocksucker gave me shit for crying over my dead dog or whatever, I'd just never talk to that asswipe again.

I'm sure it does happen, but this idea that it's this universal thing that warps all our lives is just crap.
 
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Billy Bob Dick said:
are you familar with @AmberHeardSupporter? you two should meet
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Yes and I think she's based for breaking the constraints of coerced femininity and saying what she really feels. I hope she finds a good man who treats her well.
Kermit Jizz said:
I understand that, and that's what I'm saying I never experience. Never once in my life felt like I couldn't cry around people. If some cocksucker gave me shit for crying over my dead dog or whatever, I'd just never talk to that asswipe again.

I'm sure it does happen, but this idea that it's this universal thing that warps all our lives is just crap.
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You might come from a more socially enlightened generation or part of the world than I do, but I know without a doubt that I would get ridiculed, harassed, and treated like shit if I ever started crying in front of the people I live and work around. If men elsewhere are doing better, I'm glad to hear it.
 
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The Heartthrob said:
You see that a lot with stuff like "Back in the 1800s when women were property and beaten" stated so confidently but I can't think of any period where it wouldn't have been shocking to see a man brutalize a woman. It's an easy boogeyman to keep people dependent on a movement and blind hate but that's about it in my opinion.
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One thing that's always annoyed me about this interpretation of history is the absolute leaning towards nurture over nature. There's an underlying implication that the only reason I don't beat my wife today is because I was born today. If I had been born a century ago she would've been dodging haymakers.

It completely disregards any individuality, there is no consideration that maybe it's just not in my character to beat my wife for no damn reason. There is no consideration that I genuinely love her and feel no desire to hurt her. Nope, just a happenstance of culture.

Fuck that nonsense.

Dyn said:
You might come from a more socially enlightened generation or part of the world than I do, but I know without a doubt that I would get ridiculed, harassed, and treated like shit if I ever started crying in front of the people I live and work around. If men elsewhere are doing better, I'm glad to hear it.
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I don't think it's "socially enlightened" per say, I just don't keep assholes as company. Could be as simple as I cut out all the people who would pull that shit.

Although I'm curious what your situation is that you feel you'd be mistreated for simply crying. Is this feeling based on experience or just what you assume would happen?
 
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Billy Bob Dick said:
given that this is self-evidently true, the whole tranny thing still boggles my mind. in a world that values conformity, I just don't understand how troons are not only possible, but politically favored. You'd think we'd be pogromming the motherfuckers.
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I don't have any well-thought out answers to this, but if you're mulling it over you should do some reading into how transgenders are treated in the highly conformist East Asian societies like Korea and Japan. To them, if you're shitty at being a traditional man or shitty at being a traditional woman, transitioning your gender is treated like an act of conformity and conservative virtue that is approved of.

It could be that on some level we have such a strong dislike for people who don't conform to our ideas of how their gender should be acting that we'd rather see men behaving like stereotypical women than unmasculine men.
 
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Dyn said:
I'm pretty sure that if a woman in 300 B.C told her husband what she wanted for dinner instead of shutting the fuck up and making it she would get her ass beat.
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"Αγάπη μου, είναι έτοιμο το κρασί μου για το όργιο του μικρού αγοριού;"
"Συγχωρέστε με ελιά μου αλλά θέλει περισσότερο χρόνο"
"Τα νησιά έπεσαν, δισεκατομμύρια πρέπει να πεθάνουν"
 
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Null said:
I am declaring total /pol/ rapefugee death. If you think this site is controlled in a top-down conspiracy, leave. I'm not asking people to stop shitting up things anymore. You will learn to get along, you will learn to agree to disagree, you will not invade each other's spaces like a bunch of trannies desperate to claw into bathrooms, or you will leave.

I've tried every single mod tool at my disposal to try and get people to calm down and apparently this earns nothing but scorn, so I am done.
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Agree with you 100%
I don't think we males need to engage or even visit there, like the only time I go there is because of retrospection and to see into the female mirror on men behaviour.

Plus I also think you are taking this too seriously, it's literally gossip dude. Its not /pol/ like at all? Except for a few retards but half of the shit is here just making fun of the fairer sex and maybe a complains of two or sharing some female fuck ups as they enjoy the same protection before trannies tried assaulting them.
I agree we should get along and we even should be allowed to debate and agree. But you are just giving this whole thread an image like its a afghan slave market while in the man hate thread they praise females equivalent to faggots like elliot Rodgers and randy stairs.
 
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Dyn said:
I would get ridiculed, harassed, and treated like shit if I ever started crying in front of the people I live and work around. If men elsewhere are doing better, I'm glad to hear it.
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I can confidently say that we don't come from the same place. The few times I've cried in front of (male) friends, they've been very understanding. Now, I'm naturally pretty apathetic and it would be considered extremely out of character for me to cry so maybe that factors into it a little bit as well.

Which, when I think about it seems a bit paradoxical to me considering they're all very much conservative, stereotypical worker types and these are the kind of people I would usually expect to get a negative reaction from.
 
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Dyn said:
Men hate when women do this now, because we actually have to give a shit what women want or they'll make life hard for us when they don't get it. In the past, it was completely irrelevant to us what our women wanted, and we could beat them for being noisy about it. It's not hard to understand why passivity, tact and diplomacy were seen as 'feminine' traits, or why women are continuing to engage in them, often to their detriment and to the detriment of the people around them.

This has nothing to do with evolutionary psychology. Culture, traditions and social norms are passed down throughout the generations, and we're still conforming to learned behaviors and traditions that might be unrecognisable to our ancestors, but still have their origins hundreds or thousands of years in the past.
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I thought you won't come back and respect our "safe space".
 
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Which, when I think about it seems a bit paradoxical to me considering they're all very much conservative, stereotypical worker types and these are the kind of people I would usually expect to get a negative reaction from.
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To be fair there's been a massive awareness campaign towards men's mental health in all the places I've worked lately, and all the suits are going real hard on it. I think if I cried at work tomorrow nobody would say anything about it because the HR Karens would come down on them with the fury of a thousand suns, but I'm sure they'd probably still treat me like a pariah until I quit. I've never seen anyone stick around for long after something like that happens.

Outside of work I'd be open game and probably get my shit rolled on the street.
PHILLIP BANKS said:
I thought you won't come back and respect our "safe space".
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I was invited to pull up a chair and stay a while by some valid and emotionally self-aware men, but if I make you uncomfortable I'll apologise and leave.
 
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Well folks I got a funny story to tell you guys so grab your snacks and drinks and come around my fellow misogynists.

This was during college, I was cool with a group of women cause I help then out once in a while. One of the women way home was usually silent and didn't had much commotion. And at the same a guy also took that same path.

She thought she was getting stalked by the guy, and would complain to other women in the group. So one of them asked one of my friends ( my way home was complete opposite so I declined) to company the woman who he is also declined saying that he had a job.

One day, the girl started crying suddenly and we all were puzzled.... suddenly she started screaming that she cannot take it anymore. The only information the chick gave, was the guy a senior and was about to graduate.

The brave women, barged in and chose a random guy and hurled all abuses they could and bolted out. Seriously, they ganged on a guy who was completely innocent. Later, the guy got his friends and confronted the brave women and the girl who was getting "stalked" said that this was not the guy..

The best part....
The guy who allegedly "stalked" her, was technically her neighbour who just lived close buy.....the women later apologised for being dumbasses.
 
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Dyn said:
To be fair there's been a massive awareness campaign towards men's mental health in all the places I've worked lately, and all the suits are going real hard on it. I think if I cried at work tomorrow nobody would say anything about it because the HR Karens would come down on them with the fury of a thousand suns, but I'm sure they'd probably still treat me like a pariah until I quit. I've never seen anyone stick around for long after something like that happens.

Outside of work I'd be open game and probably get my shit rolled on the street.
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Sadly I think it's more of a preventative thing rather than actually caring. They probably don't want someone to go on a killing spree or to off themselves at work. In the US, places like FedEx tend to have really strict safety restrictions because so many people have gotten injured beyond repair and ended up suing.
 
Dyn said:
To be fair there's been a massive awareness campaign towards men's mental health in all the places I've worked lately
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Yeah, we don't have any of that here. I consider it a blessing not having to worry about HR related bullshit honestly.
 
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