Trashfire Ethan Oliver Ralph vs. Amanda Lynn Ralph - Ethan Ralph (allegedly) released horse nudes on /cow/. Gross.

[Sock Cucker]

I'll make my case:

No mommy or fuckmommy to take care of him= degraded standard of living. Ralph can't even be bothered to use a toilet, FFS, you think he is doing any cleaning?
Mexico hacienda rental: unstable living situation. He'd better make the rent, or Taco Stand Tuco will let his cousin know Americano no bueno.
No vehicle to escape above issues: that's about as low as Ralph has been.

It's the fact he (apparently) no longer has a car that will fuck him over the most. Once he's broke, with no local friends, and no car:
he's toast.

 

[John Andrews Stan]

Our beloved wigger's downward spiral isn't gonna stop until he's dead and buried.

The point is that Ralph gets to choose how low his bottom is. It can ALWAYS get worse, but in Ralph’s case it gets worse because he makes it worse. Ralph doesn’t need a drink to act like a crazy drunk. No addict does.

Spoiler

That’s why detox isn’t enough to recover — the physical enslavement is just one symptom of what needs to be fixed. It’s an inside job, one Ralph has always distracted himself from by creating more drama.

The best thing for Ralph isn’t the best thing for our entertainment. That makes Ralph feel special, even though he knows we are laughing AT him. His entire identity and sense of self is wrapped up in having made a name (muddy as it is) for himself online.

I think it’s Lindsay Lohan who talks about how terrified she was that the same media she hated (for intruding in her personal life) might actually move on and stop giving her attention. Being a drunk and drug addicted wreck served her well in that it secured the attention. But it also brought endless wreckage to her life and she knew it was ultimately self-inflicted.

Remember what a mess she was years ago? She got sober and just had a baby. And she didn’t even have to run out of money to decide her life was fucked. Ralph at least has that extra kick in the pants toward getting a real life.

But again, it’s up to him whether he does or not. Whether he lives on in active addiction, dies from it, or decides to move on and grow up, there are millions of other lolcows waiting to replace him. He’s utterly disposable and unnecessary online.

Which makes it that much more of a waste for Ralph to hold onto his modest internet fame as if it’s a prize when it’s actually what’s handcuffed him to misery. He can ask for the cuffs to come off at any time — and then the real work starts, and Ralph isn’t a fan of work.

Bigger fuckups than Ralph have gotten sober and gone on to have great lives. The odds aren’t in favor of any drunk because the natural thing for a drunk to do is drink. It’s unnatural for an alcoholic to stop. But it’s possible; millions of people do it, and Ralph is no less eligible than they are. It all comes down to whether his desire to be out of his misery is greater than his desire to be known online.

 

[Sock Cucker]

Very well said, and a message many people could learn from.

 

[SargonF00t]

Bigger fuckups than Ralph have gotten sober and gone on to have great lives. The odds aren’t in favor of any drunk because the natural thing for a drunk to do is drink. It’s unnatural for an alcoholic to stop. But it’s possible; millions of people do it, and Ralph is no less eligible than they are. It all comes down to whether his desire to be out of his misery is greater than his desire to be known online.

I think Ralph's biggest problem is the poor life choices he made where he never had a job, even for a short period of time.

It wouldn't be psychologically easy now to get a normal job and take orders from some regular schmuck, especially as Ralph has no marketable job skills, so it would be a shit job with poor pay.

On top of this, he has no adult family that wants anything to do with him.

Ralph wouldn't even be able to hack it doing Gator's job of packing groceries and re-filling the shelves.

And I nearly forgot his terrible credit rating and references from previous Real Estate agents.

 

['Ole Dente]

Bigger fuckups than Ralph have gotten sober and gone on to have great lives. The odds aren’t in favor of any drunk because the natural thing for a drunk to do is drink. It’s unnatural for an alcoholic to stop. But it’s possible; millions of people do it, and Ralph is no less eligible than they are. It all comes down to whether his desire to be out of his misery is greater than his desire to be known online.

I think the stark difference is that the guys who get clean, go through the program and do their steps in the Big Book are guys that are brought low by shame and desperation. They are seeking help in any form because they are desperate, completely out of control and they can acknowledge it.

People like Ethan are the guys I’ve seen die in the hospital from liver failure. These guys have no shame, they live in delusions so strong that they can never be desperate for help. Guys with such an ego they can never be humbled by their inadequacies. Any time Ethan has shown he can know shame, know guilt, know humility it’s only ever been performative. He’s not just a moron, he’s a malevolent narcissist who can’t bond with other people on any meaningful level.

Ethan Ralph is one of the few people who are completely unable to be helped, it is just not in the cards for them. They are gravebound and you just have to let ‘em go.

 

[John Andrews Stan]

I think the stark difference is that the guys who get clean, go through the program and do their steps in the Big Book are guys that are brought low by shame and desperation. They are seeking help in any form because they are desperate, completely out of control and they can acknowledge it.

People like Ethan are the guys I’ve seen die in the hospital from liver failure. These guys have no shame, they live in delusions so strong that they can never be desperate for help. Guys with such an ego they can never be humbled by their inadequacies. Any time Ethan has shown he can know shame, know guilt, know humility it’s only ever been performative. He’s not just a moron, he’s a malevolent narcissist who can’t bond with other people on any meaningful level.

Ethan Ralph is one of the few people who are completely unable to be helped, it is just not in the cards for them. They are gravebound and you just have to let ‘em go.

I said it’s possible for him to get sober, not probable.

If it’s literally impossible then that would absolve him from responsibility for his own life. That’s why sad sacks wallow in the “I’m doomed! There’s nothing I can do!” narrative — it’s way easier than owning your shit and making amends.

To believe Ralph is truly beyond help is to believe he’s not at fault for continuing to degenerate. I’m not giving him that pass.

Spoiler

I know many people who were way more fucked up than Ralph and got sober — including one woman who had to live with herself after killing her own child and mother in a drunk driving accident. If she can clean up her act and deal with her immense guilt and grief without picking up alcohol or drugs, so can anyone.

Ralph is not so special that all these other degenerates could get their shit together but he is beyond help. They call that attitude ‘terminal uniqueness’ precisely because people believing they are too exceptionally fucked up to get their act together absolutely does kill.

Again: Possible but not probable.

 

[AncientPhosphur]

What if there are no more wins? What if the AF redemption arc was his last?

Maybe Ralph has finally hit rock bottom.

There is no bottom with Ralph, he keeps reinventing new bottoms. We all thought he was at his bottom and next thing you know he’s getting his ass heat in Portugal and later turned up in Mexico. Just because he’s depressed and sitting alone having imaginary conversation with vendors and Andrew Tate doesn’t mean he’s anywhere near bottom.

 

[DogZero]

"He who strives on and lives to strive / Can earn redemption still"
Faust part two act five.

 

[There Is Light At The End]

interesting thought. Ralph sort of works in waves. He is a bit boring for now, he wasnt last week. Give him 2 or 3 weeks. He will be showing his ass and fingering himself live soon enough.

I would prefer if he will not. I have seen enough horrors and stupidity

 

[John Andrews Stan]

There is no bottom with Ralph, he keeps reinventing new bottoms. We all thought he was at his bottom and next thing you know he’s getting his ass heat in Portugal and later turned up in Mexico. Just because he’s depressed and sitting alone having imaginary conversation with vendors and Andrew Tate doesn’t mean he’s anywhere near bottom.

Every rock bottom has a trap door — especially when you’re controlled by substances. There is no limit to how far Ralph will sink.

I think he’s realizing now that there are fates worse than death and he’s experiencing several of them simultaneously.

 

[Mr. Manchester]

Even though Ralph was VERY MEAN TO ME for trying to suggest possible jobs for him I still think that he could get one. I can't speak to him working in Mexico but in the US there are plenty of jobs that Ralph could do. The first thing that comes to mind would be picking and packing orders in a warehouse. There are tons of warehouses that constantly look for people to go grab a printed list, walk down lanes and put items in a cart.

It's not going to pay well but the hours are there and there's a bunch of other people for Ralph to talk to, people just as weird and messed up as he is. People that will be his work friends. I know it sounds weird but Dimitrius and Raul are both picking orders because a couple of dumb bitches are screaming at them about babies too.

I'll also say that when he chooses to be, Ralph can be pretty likable and ambitious. I could see him being in some kind of supervisor role where he yells at people for picking the wrong thing simply because he asked to do that job and is a friendly goofy redneck... when he chooses to be.

I'm sure null would help you lie on a resume if you asked real nice, Ralph. As far as I can tell alog amnesty is still in place so I have been forgiven for BEING NICE and trying to help. Also you can do that job high if you want. Just food for thought.

 

[AncientPhosphur]

Every rock bottom has a trap door — especially when you’re controlled by substances. There is no limit to how far Ralph will sink.

I think he’s realizing now that there are fates worse than death and he’s experiencing several of them simultaneously.

Any kind of recovery would require self awareness and reflection, but most of all forgiveness and a desire to move on. That doesn’t sound like anything Ralph is capable of doing. Right now Ralph is just in a state of being tapped out after his past actions: Meigh, Faith, moving to Mexico, not paying debts, being utterly alone. He’s probably going to wallow in this state until he adjusts to being alone in a foreign country before moving on to the next lower rung of the later. Whether he’s kicked to the level by outside forces or he’s ragepigs his way there we will see.

I think right now debt and child support payments will be the biggest possible kickers, but I won’t put down Ralph’s desire for whatever amounts to intimacy to try to drag someone to the casa del gunt. Still banking on Ralph trying to knock up some Mexican who wants a ticket to America. And then there’s the whole immigration visa and Airbnb rental will be more interesting arcs.

So yeah, Ralph is not going anywhere but down. He’s high time preference wigger white trash who only thinks of the future as “I’ll be dead by then”.

 

[Wine em Dine em 69 em]

I think the stark difference is that the guys who get clean, go through the program and do their steps in the Big Book are guys that are brought low by shame and desperation. They are seeking help in any form because they are desperate, completely out of control and they can acknowledge it.

People like Ethan are the guys I’ve seen die in the hospital from liver failure. These guys have no shame, they live in delusions so strong that they can never be desperate for help. Guys with such an ego they can never be humbled by their inadequacies. Any time Ethan has shown he can know shame, know guilt, know humility it’s only ever been performative. He’s not just a moron, he’s a malevolent narcissist who can’t bond with other people on any meaningful level.

Ethan Ralph is one of the few people who are completely unable to be helped, it is just not in the cards for them. They are gravebound and you just have to let ‘em go.

See, I think a lot of addicts use to cover up their guilt and shame (and trauma of course). And Ralph has A LOT to feel guilty and shameful about. He needs to go inpatient somewhere, yes detox and rehab, but that’s just to get him off substances so they can start the work of breaking him down, dig down and address THE GUILT and THE SHAME (from his childhood) he’s been trying to bury his whole life. They can’t even diagnose him properly till he’s off everything for something like eight weeks. There’s nothing unique about him in that regard.
He’s not irredeemable, but I see no signs he wants to get uncomfortable enough to do the work. And going on JLP’s livestream doesn’t cut it. It’s getting tedious saying it but he needs to leave the Internet permanently, inpatient six months, get a stable job and place to live, learn to use a fucking condom, you know the drill.

 

[SpergioLeonne]

And Ralph has A LOT to feel guilty and shameful about.

From the time he was a little league kid too fat for his uniform until present, he never had anything to feel good about on a level other than the most superficial. He doesn’t have friends, he’s not a likeable person, he’s a collection of the primordial stew personality disorders emerge from.

If processing all of that is a requirement to sobriety, forget it. He’s too far gone and he expects immediate rewards.

 

[Wine em Dine em 69 em]

From the time he was a little league kid too fat for his uniform until present, he never had anything to feel good about on a level other than the most superficial. He doesn’t have friends, he’s not a likeable person, he’s a collection of the primordial stew personality disorders emerge from.

If processing all of that is a requirement to sobriety, forget it. He’s too far gone and he expects immediate rewards.

He wouldn’t even acknowledge the state of Arkansas his daddy gave him & pretended he was from Tennessee.
If it helps any, maybe he’d respond better to male therapists calling out his bullshit in person to his face in a nonconfrontational way? Black homo therapists?
Nvm hadn’t had coffee yet and am thinking more clearly now. Resuming shitposting.

 

[SpergioLeonne]

He wouldn’t even acknowledge the state of Arkansas his daddy gave him & pretended he was from Tennessee.
If it helps any, maybe he’d respond better to male therapists calling out his bullshit in person to his face in a nonconfrontational way? Black homo therapists?
Nvm hadn’t had coffee yet and am thinking more clearly now. Resuming shitposting.

His therapist should follow him around and snigger at him from around corners.

When Ralph gets the pig rage and tries to charge, his therapist needs to interdict this behavior by sitting him down with a punch or a couple of heavy slaps.

Repeat infinitely

 

[Blue Miaplacidus]

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it's pretty hilarious that both Christine Chris Chan Jesus Christ Sonichu Blue Heart Weston Chandler and KingCoperJFS both have a larger resume and more work experience than Ethan Ralph

 

[DumbDude43]

If it helps any, maybe he’d respond better to male therapists calling out his bullshit in person to his face in a nonconfrontational way? Black homo therapists?

the only way i could see ralph ever possibly responding to advice/help is in a setting where it is forced on him directly by a powerful authority figure, in person, one he is actually unable to disrespect or avoid.
like, if he was conscripted by force into a military unit and had a drill instructor yell at him for months, with no way out, with absolutely no choice but to comply. that's probably the one and only way anyone could ever get through to him.
but of course a setting like that does not exist for him so it's never going to happen.

 

[Too Sneed to care]

Every rock bottom has a trap door — especially when you’re controlled by substances. There is no limit to how far Ralph will sink.

I think he’s realizing now that there are fates worse than death and he’s experiencing several of them simultaneously.

You either sober up or become the new Jim Lahey, that's a job maybe Ralph could do trailer park supervisor

 

[SpergioLeonne]

the only way i could see ralph ever possibly responding to advice/help is in a setting where it is forced on him directly by a powerful authority figure, in person, one he is actually unable to disrespect or avoid.
like, if he was conscripted by force into a military unit and had a drill instructor yell at him for months, with no way out, with absolutely no choice but to comply. that's probably the one and only way anyone could ever get through to him.
but of course a setting like that does not exist for him so it's never going to happen.

Idk, it makes me think of the Cog situation in Portugal. Realizing he couldn’t snort his way out of anything, he reverted to acting like an old woman and actually sticking his hand out, demanding to be helped up.