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Like I said, this is assuming that a Switch successor takes off and that they can meet demand.
There's a good possibility of a Switch successor having a Wii U launch depending on how things go.
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There's a good possibility of a Switch successor having a Wii U launch depending on how things go.
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Probably being fully re-worked into a remake/complete overhaul based on Takahashi saying that they want to port it, and that if they did anything it wouldn't just be a port. Probably re-doing the story with the original scrapped script about Neo Tokyo from the Art of Mira book, especially with the ending of the 3 DLC. Probably a year one release on the Switch 2 like Xenoblade 2 was.
I hope this theoretical re-make/do/overhaul? keeps the original character artist and doesn't have that shitty hentai artist they hired for 2 and 3 to ruin it. Bring back Kunihiko Tanaka you pricks, I'm sick of muddy sameface characters with way too many belts. Dude doesn't even know the fundamentals, bad enough that they got CHOCO to do all the steelbooks, and even the Monolithsoft anniversary art instead of him.
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Ok if they did that id cut them some slack but I’m such a Xeno simp id gladly take a lazy port at this point haha. Though I hope they don’t add the anime filter to it if they did do that kind of overhaul.
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The Switch 2 is almost certainly coming out 2024, so it will be out long before we get the next mainline Pokemon game.
Yeah, I don't see that happening unless Nintendo does what it did with the Wii U and attaches some weird gimmick nobody asked for to the console. I think Nintendo has learned their lesson from the Wii U how that will not work, and the Switch 2 will ultimately just be a beefier Switch, or something close to that concept. Nintendo can't go into a new console expecting it to fail, they have to commit to it's success.
This probably would have been a bigger issue a few years ago when the chip shortage was in full swing. Now that that has mostly settled, this probably won't be as big an issue now.
Nintendo won't immediately cutoff all support for the console. Technical support and online support will remain, and they will sell through any remaining stock. But history has shown that Nintendo themselves move on quickly in the home console space, for the most part. They did it when they went to the N64, then when they went to the Gamecube, then the Wii, then the Wii U. In all those situations, major game releases on the predecessor dried up immediately. Nintendo doesn't have the development capacity to support development for two consoles simultaneously.
Backwards compatibility will of course also effect how this all plays out. Assuming the Switch 2 is backwards compatible, it might make continuing to support the Switch make sense, since any game released on the Switch could be played on the Switch 2, thus making cross platform games an irrelevant issue. However, backwards compatibility also gives the Switch 2 a nice back catalog to work with, giving Nintendo more faith in the system being able to find a sure footing, since it already basically has a library to carry it.
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Look up the Art of Mira classified materials section. X was going to be their biggest game and probably their attempt to do Perfect Works properly, only for Nintendo to force them to add online features, requiring them to scrap the story and re-write it to facilitate a custom player character.
The basic gist of the scrapped script seems to have been about the mysterious Skell pilot that was in the Ares with Elma, and the events would take place in Neo Tokyo instead of NLA. There was another main character that seems to have filled the same role as Shion from Xenosaga, who was the daughter of the Sakuraba CEO. There is a lot of art for the Ghosts, which based on the lyrics of Black Tar would assimilate people into black tar, hence the name. There is art of a ship with a Skell hangar and a sea of dark matter, this is also described in the datapad texture translation.
There are remnants of this stuff left over, the NielNails that only appear in that one squad mission have a lot more put into them, and in the art notes talks about how the engines on the back is a Logic Drive, same tech as Xenosaga. The Elma stuff is seemingly all still canon, and matches the datapad translation, which also lines up with the unused art. Now with the context of Xenoblade 3's DLC ending it seems like Xenoblade X's world was a re-imagining of Xenosaga in the same vein as Xenosaga is to Gears.
They won't screw up the story with weebshit like they did the numbered games, those were never meant to be a Xeno game in the first place, but they morphed into one with 2 and 3. X was always going to be as schizo based as Gears or Saga, they just got hampered by Nintendo. A story overhaul would be fully schizo if they actually add the stuff from the art book. I can go further into this stuff but perhaps that discussion could be held in one of the Xenoblade threads.
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The Switch has a touch screen and the controllers have waggle-ish functions. They can adjust the puzzles to work with the Switch.
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If Nintendo wishes to truly dominate the market they should go further into schizo gaming. I want a xeno game that feels like a crazed japs understanding of religion and aliens. I want a F-Zero where you have to sell space drugs to get new parts for your racer. Mario where he deals with his issues caused by the over consumption of mushrooms…. The next generation of gaming, must be schizophrenic!
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For once, I might get the JRPGs, though. The FE clone looks promising
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Make the next Legend of Zelda a Cruelty Squad knock-off and I'm in.
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WTF ANOTHER CODE IS BACK, CING ISNT DEAD?
THE RETURN OF THE KING IS POSSIBLE?!?
THE RETURN OF THE KING IS POSSIBLE?!?
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didn't they do this for the Wii U and no other console?
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I truly hope that the Switch 2 is fully backward compatible to the point that a) all switch games run on the Switch 2 as is with the same online account and b) Nintendo encourages developers that don't push the hardware to target the Switch so that the game runs on both consoles.
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1. I agree, the ending to the 3 DLC is about as blatant of an X reference as you can get. Redoing it would also make it an easier sell on a new platform.
I doubt the cuts to the original version were because of anything except budget, the game was already massive and it didn’t break a million sales because it was on WiiU.
2. This is seriously the art style you want?
The concept art was solid, but god are the models hard on the eyes.
Paper Mario remake seems unnecessary, it looks great, but the GameCube game still holds up perfectly. At least this Princess Peach, and Mario Wonder show that they’re finally burying the New! aesthetic for good.
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The X artstyle is pretty much the Xenosaga 3 style, but I agree the models are rough. My point probably wasn't made clear, if they intend to keep the anime look then as long as the original character artist of X is brought back his stuff looks really good with the 2/3 style. His stuff has always looked bad when converted to 3d in the previous Xeno games, but they finally got it right with the DLC characters in 2, they looks like the Xenogears character portraits. He did Shulk, Fiora, Elma, Kos-mos and Finch in 2, and they look great, better than the sameface that the new lead character designer has.
Elma in the 2 DLC has the exact same body model as in X but they changed her head out for the anime style one.
and the anime styled one matches the concept are pretty much exactly.
I also just prefer Kunihiko Tanaka's 90s sci-fi anime style, and I think his stuff is infinitely more interesting than Masatsugo Saito's generic modern anime look with poor art fundamentals, sameface (he's an ex hentai artist), and sagging belt fetish. Kunihiko Tanaka was also the original Xenogears and Xenosaga artist.
Here is some examples of Saito's sameness:
Nia has the same face as Rex, you wont be able to unsee it.
Maybe I just hate change, idk.
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There were many issues with Wii U, but one of them was simply casual parents and such being like "we already have a Wii, why do we need this?" This is actually something that also happened with the Super Nintendo back in the day, believe it or not.
I'm not saying a Switch successor would do as bad as a Wii U, but the idea that it's just going to sell hotcakes because it's a Switch successor is exactly the kind of thinking Nintendo had with Wii U.
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The Switch is not the Wii U and most of its fanbase aren't filthy casuals who never played a video game before they picked up a Wiimote. If what you are saying was really an issue, then the Playstation and Xbox would be facing the same issues. Hell, any piece of highly commodified technology that has a consistent release schedule would face the same issue. People still turn up every year to buy the newest iPhone, despite the it there being very little difference between generations. The real issue wasn't that people said "we already have a Wii, why do we need this?", the real issue is that most people didn't even realize that the Wii U was a new console in the first place. Many people at the time thought it was just an add-on for the Wii.
And the Wii U failed because of a number of issues that had nothing to do with whether or not Nintendo felt it could sell. A bad name, terrible marketing, lack of games, crappy gimmick, etc. A Switch successor will not have these problems unless Nintendo completely unlearns all the lessons the Wii U taught them. I mean, look at the Switch itself. It came right after the Wii U and became one of the most successful video game consoles ever specifically because it didn't repeat any of the Wii U's mistakes.
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It never ceases to amaze me how out of touch some of you are with the actual gaming community.
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They sold a lot of Switches to kids and 20s/30s women. This is absolutely the crowd which would not care about an upgrade.
Just look at how many copies of Animal Crossing they sold. Does anyone really think that game needs more graphics?
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This isn't even getting into how fucked this economy is.
He's going on about Apple and iPhones without realizing that nigs are Sony's bread and butter, not Nintendo.
Like I said, I'm not expecting a Switch successor to fail, but the idea that Nintendo wouldn't do anything cross generational is a bit short sighted at this point.
That's not even getting into third party developers/publishers that will continue to support Switch. There was a reason PS4 and Xbox One kept getting games up until this year. There's always a healthy amount of people who are going to stick with what they got, especially with a looming recession/depression.