Nintendo Switch (Currently Plagued) - Here we shit post about the new Nintendo console, The Switch

There were many issues with Wii U, but one of them was simply casual parents and such being like "we already have a Wii, why do we need this?" This is actually something that also happened with the Super Nintendo back in the day, believe it or not.

I'm not saying a Switch successor would do as bad as a Wii U, but the idea that it's just going to sell hotcakes because it's a Switch successor is exactly the kind of thinking Nintendo had with Wii U.
I mean it could work hypothetically.

Let's say the Switch 2 is fully compatible with the Switch 1 and plays all Switch 1 games but with some upscaling.
Nintendo could take a page out of the Xbox book and encourage smaller games to support both consoles.
Now Nintendo has the Switch 2 that can handle the more advanced games, and they have the Switch 1 that they can sell as a lower cost console. They could make a Switch Nano that's cheaper and smaller.
Hypothetically.
 
I mean it could work hypothetically.

Let's say the Switch 2 is fully compatible with the Switch 1 and plays all Switch 1 games but with some upscaling.
Nintendo could take a page out of the Xbox book and encourage smaller games to support both consoles.
Now Nintendo has the Switch 2 that can handle the more advanced games, and they have the Switch 1 that they can sell as a lower cost console. They could make a Switch Nano that's cheaper and smaller.
Hypothetically.
I'm pretty sure this is exactly what they did with the NES and SNES.
 
I'm pretty sure this is exactly what they did with the NES and SNES.
I'm pretty sure that handhelds may be a different story. Most households only have one tv so having two consoles when you can only play one at a time doesn't make sense. But if dad can have a Switch 2 and the eldest can have the Switch 1 and the youngest the Switch Nano...
 
Decided to give F-Zero 99 a go, because fuck it, it's free (like Tetris 99 except the DLC for that costs money, and I'm assuming down the line they wil probably add a paid DLC for this as well), and I've never played an F-Zero game but always wanted to. They give you a tutorial in the beginning (which was actually helpful considering I didn't know the trick to those sharp turns was letting go of the acceleration button), then they stack you against some CPUs before finally letting you go with the true 99 battle royal. I chose the Stingray because it has better recovery. Before you start a match you get to choose which of the two pre-selected stages you want to race in and the majority of the matches wil be in either Mute City or Big Blue because that's literally what everyone picks. The game gives you 4 "rivals" to beat that are in the same ranking as you and if you beat them, you gain EXP to Rank Up (you start at C-, at least I did) and level up, and everytime you level up, you get rewarded with options to change your car color, decal, and charge/boost color. You also get tickets that you can enter special tournaments with. How these work is that you race a set of 4 tracks, and each time you pass, the qualifying limit decreases until there's only a few people left. These special tourneys have a time limit and start at specific times.

EDIT: Forgot to note, there's also golden balls that come out of cars when you smack into them, if you collect the gold balls, you fill up a special boost meter that lets you speed above the track on a special track that lets you pass a fuck-ton of people for a limited time.
 
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I doubt Nintendo would pull it off but what Microsoft did with the Xbox One -> Series move was totally seamless. My Xbox One X runs the same OS, I can use the same controllers, the games are the same SKU including physical copies, things will just run better on Series X whenever I upgrade and of course there will be new games I just can't play on the old one (though none I care about up to this point).

It's the best gen-on-gen move I've seen since PS1 to PS2.
 
The Switch 2 is almost certainly coming out 2024, so it will be out long before we get the next mainline Pokemon game.
If it does then yeah. I can see it coming 2025 though, I think if the next Direct doesn't reveal it then the likelihood of a '25 release goes up a lot.

But history has shown that Nintendo themselves move on quickly in the home console space, for the most part. They did it when they went to the N64, then when they went to the Gamecube, then the Wii, then the Wii U. In all those situations, major game releases on the predecessor dried up immediately.
I don't think there will be any major game releases, but they've certainly been known to at least deliver a swansong release for each home console (even Wii U), with some getting games years after their successors' release. Only poor N64 for some reason was completely ditched by Nintendo like half a year before GC even released.

I'd be very surprised if they pulled an N64 here, drop it and just pray they don't fail again. People probably don't realize it but each system after NES had worse sales until Wii, then they went straight back to doing worse than ever yet again. You know that's weighing on their minds and they would probably want to hedge their bets.

Or maybe I'm just bad at armchair market strategy, that's probable.
 
the games are the same SKU including physical copies
This is the only real problem with seamless copies between version for the Switch and its successor: the carts. I doubt they'll waste the money on every game having higher capacity carts to fit both versions on cart for first party games and third party games surely wouldn't. I feel it's going to be a 3DS/DS, GB/C/A situation where the cart slot has the same connector but physically different to not allow background compatibility. That said, I'm pretty sure if you buy a digital or physical Switch title with an "enhanced" version on the successor, it'll let you download the upgraded version and the cart being the authentication for it. I don't think it'll go in reverse as it never has. Rainbows and all, but I don't think they want to lose the install base of the Switch that took a decade of selling well to get that high. It made sense to kick people off home consoles in the past to upgrade but that was never as true for handhelds so their desire to print money would prevent them from just abandoning the Switch.

Edit: For visualization, I just assume it'll be the same cart with hollow T notches on the top to keep it symmetrical for it being more narrow than the DS carts so the tips are more kid friendly to not break.
 
I doubt they'll waste the money on every game having higher capacity carts to fit both versions on cart for first party games and third party games surely wouldn't.
Non videogame software engineer talking here but a 128gb SD card now costs about what a 32gb SD card did back in 2017. Why are their carts still so homosexual on cost?
 
Hard to believe Super Mario Wonder comes out in almost a month, and the next month after that is the Super Mario RPG remake.

I’d joke and say that the people over at Nintendo read my mind on what I wanted, but in the same breath, there’s still a bunch of other NS games that came out in the last few years that I want to get.

Is there anyone that thinks Super Mario Wonder will be a GOTY runner up?
 
Why are their carts still so homosexual on cost?
Because they're basically Jewish when it comes to cutting costs. Looking at how small their cloud save space is.

My moonshot theory is just they'll end up in a situation where third parties make physical Switch copies that get upgrades to the next gen version either through a download code (if Nintendo somehow doesn't have a platform feature for it) or the Nintendo store feature that will quietly be discontinued once the install base is high enough for Nintendo to think they can get away with it after stopping dual releases themselves.
 
Okay, sorry for doubleposting, but I’m crossed between literally shaking and utterly confused as to now finding out that Mario vs. Donkey Kong and Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door are getting enhanced remakes and Princess Peach is getting another standalone game after all these years.

I don’t mean to Redditspeak, but I genuinely think Nintendo was playing my hand, since I initially didn’t believe that this was true at first. The first game was something I played a lot in my childhood, whereas I wanted TTYD for so many years on the GC, and now it’s getting a remake for the Switch come 2024?

This is just getting wild.
 
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This is the only real problem with seamless copies between version for the Switch and its successor: the carts. I doubt they'll waste the money on every game having higher capacity carts to fit both versions on cart for first party games and third party games surely wouldn't. I feel it's going to be a 3DS/DS, GB/C/A situation where the cart slot has the same connector but physically different to not allow background compatibility.
What makes you think the game versions will be incompatible with each other? Nvidia makes the hardware for both of them and the Switch 2 processor is a direct evolution of the Switch's processor. For the games that can run on both they can increase memory limits and consecutive processes but still use mostly the same assets as the S1 game. Hybrid games would use the same cart, with Switch2 exclusives using one that has a little tab or something
 
They sold a lot of Switches to kids and 20s/30s women. This is absolutely the crowd which would not care about an upgrade.
The fuck are you talking about? Kids always want the newest hottest shit to show off to their friends. They hear there's a new Switch coming out and they will jump on that shit like flies to shit. And 20s/30s women don't make up anywhere near the Switch's entire install base. They'll eventually buy whatever the newest Switch is too, because women, above all, are consumer, and buying shit is just what they do.

Just look at how many copies of Animal Crossing they sold. Does anyone really think that game needs more graphics?
That's pretty irrelevant to what we're talking about.

Like I said, I'm not expecting a Switch successor to fail, but the idea that Nintendo wouldn't do anything cross generational is a bit short sighted at this point.
I never said that Nintendo wouldn't do anything cross generational. I even said we might get a few minor game releases, particularly around the Switch 2's launch period, because there is usually some overlap around that time as companies make the transition. But it would be foolish to expect any major releases on the Switch after the Switch 2's launch. That's just not how Nintendo operate. They aren't Sony.

That's not even getting into third party developers/publishers that will continue to support Switch.
And I've already stated that third parties will continue to produce games after Nintendo has long moved on. The Dreamcast continued to get games long after it was discontinued in the West. The Vita was basically kept alive for years purely by third party output, long after Sony had basically abandoned it. There are always a few third parties that continue to produce games for a console long after the manufacturer has moved on.

There was a reason PS4 and Xbox One kept getting games up until this year.
Because Sony and Microsoft couldn't produce enough consoles to meet demand because of the worldwide chip shortage at the time, caused by COVID, which also strained the supply chain. Cross platform releases were the only way they could get enough game sales to make money.

There's always a healthy amount of people who are going to stick with what they got,
If that was really a problem, companies would never bother to even release new generations of consoles.

but they've certainly been known to at least deliver a swansong release for each home console (even Wii U), with some getting games years after their successors' release.
Rarely are those major releases though. Usually, they are minor titles, maybe a remake, the type of thing that nobody will usually pay much attention to. Even in the third party realm, its usually minor games or releases, or smaller indie games that continue to release titles. The focus will shift to Switch 2.

I'd be very surprised if they pulled an N64 here, drop it and just pray they don't fail again. People probably don't realize it but each system after NES had worse sales until Wii, then they went straight back to doing worse than ever yet again.
A lot of the sales loss console to console is purely due to Nintendo themselves doing stupid shit that costed them sales. The Playstation and Xbox over the same time period trended in the exact opposite direction (excepting the transition from the PS2 to the PS3, but that was also due to Sony's stupidity). Now, how hard Nintendo drops the Switch will probably come down to how well the Switch 2 does initially, but the fact is, the Switch's console sales are slowing down and third party support is mostly indies at this point. Its run its course and Nintendo understands that. That's why game development for the Switch has slowed down and there's no real killer app for the holiday season. Nintendo have clearly already shifted the bulk of the development to the Switch 2. That's just what happens when you are preparing to put out a major product. And if Nintendo wants that product to succeed, you have to put your full force behind it. There's just a limit to how much you can hedge your bets. And you have to give Nintendo credit: despite the flops that some of their consoles turned out to be, they fully commit to them and do everything they can to try to give them a fighting chance.
 
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Thinking of bidding on a big sealed RPG lot for Switch. Its at near current value, maybe a slight deal. Any advice? Do it or don't? Do you think sealed Switch RPGs will head up or down in value?
 
Stealth announcement.

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Like the Zelda release it will have the DLC. But it's coming out in Oct so wave 6 will be a download. Weird that they wouldn't wait

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