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The priest becomes a better person by becoming a worse christian and you're arguing that this isn't a case of the show being christianity bad?
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There are other things to interpret the show in terms of the idea of "Christians bad."
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Yeah like I won't go into some debate whether homosexuality is good or bad to christians since I have no interest in that debate nor is this the thread for it.
But Adam is obvious that he hates christian people and cares little for the content of what it means to be christian. With the show Moral Orel, the priest is not framed as rejecting christianity when he does stuff like accept his kid, but he is someone that still holds onto his faith and also becomes a more mature person.
This obviously is different from Adam's take on the show being about christianity being terrible, and that being his only takeaway. Hell the lead of the show is still Christian at the end and doesn't reject his faith either.
So its clear Adam has illiterate when it comes to media related to or addressing christianity
It's a good song but it is weaker compared to the others, but the visuals are definitely good especially when Moses' staff eats the fake snake.
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This was probably the intention.
Think about it; the priests' are arguing that Moses' God is weak, fake, and there's only one compared to their whole pantheon. They're trying to intimidate him, but Moses knows that God's power is Almighty, and true. Their pagan gods, their magic tricks, they are nothing but child's play.
How can Moses take them seriously, when he knows His power?
How can a song from sinners compare to works for the Lord?
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The overal messaging of the show appears to be "Christianity is only good when it rejects its actual teachings and becomes more liberal." I.e. Christian in name only.
I don't think Adam is wrong in this take of his. Yes he is a leddit atheist, but liberalizing the church is more or less the same as destroying it. Its just a roundabout way of doing so. The show going "See? You too can be a good christian if you don't actually follow or do anything christianity teaches!" is more or less rejecting of faith without actually saying you are. Its like saying you can be a good vegan and still eat meat.
Like, don't get me wrong, I have no issue dunking on adam, but on this one he really isn't wrong.
The only piece of (non biblical) media I've ever seen to actually treat christians with respect is new vegas.
Adam probably is biased on this, but moral orel isn't a good litmus test. When I hear his take on Graham I'll be more confident in making a judgement. As I said earlier in the thread, adam is usually relatively careful with his words.
When he was reviewing episode 3 of the last of us he was practically red in the face seething about people not liking the gays but he didn't once use the word homophobia.
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Broken clocks are still right twice a day.
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I'm pretty sure the reason why the Moral Orel thing feels dumb is that yeah, he really isn't wrong, it is a giant middle finger to Christians and christianity. It's absolutely that. But like, that's obvious. Like, yeah, this faith-based show on Adult Swim is shockingly anti-christian overall.
Adam takes this and makes it seem like that's the deeper context and not just the blatantly obvious. He smugly portrays it as the show's main driving force and the main reason that Moral Orel is worth a watch.
The characters and their struggles are worth the watch. The whole Christianity nail just becomes like, extra background context. It treats the characters like complex people with complex issues that can't just be solved with faith and church. For some of them, that's the whole point of their character: struggling with their faith. It treats these characters as multi-faceted beings with multiple different factors affecting them. It's like real life and how any religion, when boiled down to it, is just kind of a giant cope. The show treats it's subjects and topics with respect. This is the show that got canceled for being too depressing, after all.
Adam not being able to see deeper than the "Christianity Bad" angle, in a way, almost does the show a disservice because it's so much more than that. That's why it really comes off as smug and dumb when he brings it up.
Adam just has a hate boner for Christians.
Adam takes this and makes it seem like that's the deeper context and not just the blatantly obvious. He smugly portrays it as the show's main driving force and the main reason that Moral Orel is worth a watch.
The characters and their struggles are worth the watch. The whole Christianity nail just becomes like, extra background context. It treats the characters like complex people with complex issues that can't just be solved with faith and church. For some of them, that's the whole point of their character: struggling with their faith. It treats these characters as multi-faceted beings with multiple different factors affecting them. It's like real life and how any religion, when boiled down to it, is just kind of a giant cope. The show treats it's subjects and topics with respect. This is the show that got canceled for being too depressing, after all.
Adam not being able to see deeper than the "Christianity Bad" angle, in a way, almost does the show a disservice because it's so much more than that. That's why it really comes off as smug and dumb when he brings it up.
Adam just has a hate boner for Christians.
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I think that's Big Joel's girlfriend, mothcub, she has her own art/political commentary channel
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They both look like they smell musty.
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Though Moral Orel makes fun of Christianity, what stops it from being reddit atheist the show is that Orel never says "fuck Jesus, it's all a bunch of lies!" it's about him continuing to have faith despite everyone of his role models being a hypocrite.
Yeah, all the Christian characters are hypocritical sinners. It's basically the show version of the facebook meme "everyone in church is a liar and a hypocrite!" "Yeah, that's why they need to go to church, just like you!"
By the end of the show, its message is much more to do with alcoholism and dysfunctional families than anything about religion
When the drug dealer Shiny dies, he shouts "I accept Jesus Christ as my Lord and Saviour made it!" implying he'll still go to Heaven after an unrepentant lifetime of murder because he said the right words the second before he died. It could be seen as a parody of the precepts of Christianity, but it also seems like something a protestant would say to make fun of Constantine waiting until the day he died to get Baptized
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that YMS video on terfs is so weird. it's him trying to consolidate his support of 2015 anti-sjw alt-lite content with his progressive politics. like he pretends that all those gamergate retards were good guys fighting the bad feminists, and we've just now realized that we can separate the bad feminism from the good. i'd highly recommend giving it a watch shit's geniunely fucking weird
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YMS thread: bible study and "what do cartoons teach us about Christ; can the autistic know the Lord?"
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Adam is a typical pozzed liberal but he really fucking HATES women. He is beyond misogynist. That's why his takes on feminism are so weird.
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This is kiwifarms after all. The amount of autistic details explaining things in depth is worth more reading on here than it is to spend your time watching YMS video/stream justifying why jerking off to tranny furry porn is the better than releasing the Lion King part 2 review.
And these dudes are putting more effort into explaining the message more than Adam would've ever done in his entire youtube career.
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He was pretty supportive of Barbie (2022)'s female perspective (his words), at the same time he does rag on the newer Disney remakes for being too 'girl-bossy'
I don't think I've ever seen him go any more negative than that. Maybe he's a stealth misogynist.
It depends, I'd say.
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i mean he was an anti-sjw and liking the barbie movie's take on feminism is like saying you enjoy second wave feminists. its philosophy is so safe