Fredrik Knudsen / "Down the Rabbit Hole" Guy / Loren The Owl - Youtube documentarian turned gay furry vtuber

I get the feeling his EVE online video is going to flop just for being over 3+ hours alone. As a general rule of thumb, if your video essay/documentary can’t get to the point within less than 2 hours there’s a good chance there’s a lot of detouring going on.
I just wonder if theres even enough interest in a 6 hour long doc on such a niche game and if it's even possible to make it entertaining.
Fred's other subjects like spoony, furries or cwc have much more interest from the general public and those are short by comparison
 
Man, i was still coping that even with its unnecessarily long length and troubled development, the EVE video would manage to be entertaining, but after seeing his bad research on the may island video, dedicating a video on some diaperfur that ack'd himself, and now all of this genchink Vtuber nonsense, i can't help but join the camp that belives Fred's further descent into troondom is not a matter of if, but when.
 
Looks like an ancient depiction of a jackal or dog fucking someone captured in UV. Fred's giving a presentation there in a small room, which at con almost certainly means an 18+ panel. If anyone can find a copy of that cons schedule there's probably "The ancient history of furries" or something on there, and it's just him talking about historical examples of dog fucking. I'm not educated enough to guess which society the image likely originated from.
Defining "Furry" | Down the Rabbit Hole Live
Since the 1980s, the term “Furry” has meant numerous things to different people, but no truly centralized definition was ever codified. Utilizing historical context and literary analysis, Fredrik Knudsen (Down the Rabbit Hole) will construct a useful definition that Furries can apply to help understand their own identity better and unlock a stronger understanding of the fandom.
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I just wonder if theres even enough interest in a 6 hour long doc on such a niche game and if it's even possible to make it entertaining.
Fred's other subjects like spoony, furries or cwc have much more interest from the general public and those are short by comparison
It’s one of those subjects that I think can be summed up in less than an hour and a half; but I suspect detours will be focused on either spending 10 minutes defining an obscure term or talking about random people loosely related to the topic.

I’ve seen true crime documentaries that covered multilayered cases in far less time than that, while still maintaining the most important facts of said cases.
 
Do they just like hang out and talk about Internet stuff? Read greentexts while stroking each other's dicks? Why all the lore? I am old and confused.
I have no clue what trannies and their handmaidens talk about, maybe how hot various fembois are? I mostly talk to people via HAM so I'm like you, way out of my element.
 
some gay furry background shit if anyone cares: I used to be in the DTRH patron-only discord back in 2018 or so (patreon is retarded but I was like 18 and enjoyed long-form content). I will say the gradual furry transition was actually jumpstarted by his ex, Error, who Fred dated long-term (and even lived with briefly, I believe) prior to Vex and is seemingly forgotten by him and his discord all together. Error had some sort of alien coyote furry OC and did some of Fred's original art. can't find any images to add since its been 5+ years so my apologies, all this to say he's been a furry pretty much this entire time. left the discord for a awhile, and when I came back there was zero trace of Error and Vex was publicly flirting with Fred in the discord so clearly something happened between him and his ex. Vex always had a weird obsessive crush on Fred that he did nothing to dissuade so its not surprising it didn't work out with his ex.
 
I discovered the Farms thanks to Knudsen's video on Chris-Chan and Sonichu
(and realizing "Batman VS Tony Danza" is the best username in the history of anything made me a lurker).

My first post in the Farms -on the Keffals thread- was about having discovered
an about-to-launch #DropKiwiFarms journoscum hitpiece, which I stumbled upon while
looking about the whereabouts of Knudsen, considering the unusual prolonged silence on YT.
It may or may not be the same article Fear Dealer posted a snapshot of earlier on the thread.

His videos about Furries and Anime are a solid neutral ground to dissect the respective phenomena.
I thought he just espoused some sort of pity/sympathy for the furry/otaku fandom.
Unfortunately (and perhaps unsurprisingly), it seems there is more than that.
Was it there all along or is the logical extreme of the autist content creator fate...?


Twitter, Twitch, Discord (TTD) seem to be always present on Youtubers turned streamers turned parasocialites.
It almost reads like an inevitability that becomes a certainty the moment Furries and Anime enter the fray.

Or rather, a very reliable checklist to decide which YT channels/Patreons/etc
you will be supporting no longer while playing Komm Süsser Tod in the background.

I respected the guy up until discovering about that Vtuber avatar.
I still respect -and recommend- 90% of his YT content.

User Anonintolia put it best:
I'm not surprised but I am disappointed.

As you have read about Keffals, DSP, Wings of Redemption and Chris-Chan.
If you are the smart guy you clearly see yourself as,
reminding you that the best time to PULL UP is now would be redundant.

As you have read about James Rolfe, Boogie, Rekieta, Jim Sterling and Masterson:
don't embarrass yourself in front of the people that formerly respected your content.

Perhaps this is another way to suggest to stop posting pictures of yourself
if you are interested on Voice Acting/VTubing.
You are a clever guy and clearly have thought this through, eh?
 
This was years ago? He honestly already looked like he was beginning to troon. I had also made the mistake of assuming he 'just' went to this convention with the 'furry friends' and toured around, but he gave a panel to the furries.. about themselves (like that was necessary.)
His videos about Furries and Anime are a solid neutral ground to dissect the respective phenomena.
I thought he just espoused some sort of pity/sympathy for the furry/otaku fandom.
I can't say much on the anime video, don't remember it, but the furry shit struct me as being far too positive slanted, another case where someone tries to at minimum act like the fandom isn't majorly about sex, for one, and while I think he made it before the zoosadist leaks there's really no point I recall mentioning the even darker sides of the community that were blatantly obvious. Now I can see why he didn't do that, but brushing off the sex pest shit was lame - he clearly didn't want to step on the toes of his 'friends' as the 'furry adjacent' person he was.
 
All he had to do was say he wasn't up to making DTRH videos anymore because he associates it with hard times in his life, like depression and his friend passing, and he could have bowed out with more goodwill and pissed off less fans who might have given his other content a chance.

He's got that look to him. Like, that asperger's look. I can't describe it and I'm sure I'll be wrong, but something about him is off and points towards this.

Man, "KiwiFarms posters are that way because they actually hate themselves" is like the most fart-sniffing fake intellectual first year psych-student shit you could whip up.
There's many reasons to post on the farms: you want to make raunchy jokes, you want to have longform discussions without being #canceled and give nuanced opinions, you want to talk about someone but all the public places kiss their ass (especially if you were a victim of said person in some way), you find psychology interesting, you like reality tv, you're watching some creator you like go down in flames... And A-logging, of course.

My guess is that maybe Fredrick is projecting his reasons for going here onto the rest of the forum. I don't know enough about him to say for certain, but considering some of his tendencies, I wouldn't be surprised.

It seems like he has 2% more knowledge of the internet and it's culture than any journoscum and that makes him some expert to said journoscum, while still maintaining the "I don't like the bad, icky phobe words!" demeanor that causes them to not publish more true information from the actual knowledgeable.
If he gave any sort of nuanced take, the journos would have ignored him immediately. Doesn't matter, as he seems to want to be the most intellectual man in the room as you and others stated so he was destined to give an answer like that.

and that he's APOLOGIZING to lolcows like some sort of faggot. It's like he thinks he's above it all.
Troll's remorse is a bitch, isn't it?
 
For a few of his Down the Rabbit Hole videos, I recall he had an intro with a series of audio that implies you're directly going into the rabbit's hole. I know how schizo I'm sounding right now and how bad of a job I'm doing at explaining this, but I know what I heard. At the time I recall thinking it was maybe a bit weird, but nothing too out of the ordinary. Dear God, if I only knew what I was in for.

Furries. Not even once.
 
I had a hunch he was gonna do some bullshit when I noticed he went out of his way to edit out metokur in the wings of redemption video (the painkiller already podcast segment) but if you told me that he was gonna be a vtubing furfag I'd tell you that would be silly
I wish it was just silly
 
Troll’s remorse to troon pipeline, many such cases unfortunately. If he starts making videos on his main channel again he will be trying hard to suck up to breadtubers and leftists and his audience will begin to unsubscribe in the masses. The retards that will defend him will do the “he’s becoming a better person” bit like they do with idubbbz
 
Why does every internet personality I like turn out to be a huge fucking retarded weirdo?
Because nobody is ever taught the importance of having a public life and a private life anymore. Everything is just out in the open and people like Fred just end up BAWWWWW'ing at their audience when their fans ask why there's no new content when they've been streaming Normie Weebshit Game Number 290234789457845 as a femboy catboy for the past three weeks.

Fred is a prime example of why fame comes at a price - and that price is responsibility. Never forget that if you dream of making it big one day, because you might just end up with a thread on a place like Kiwi Farms.
 
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