ContraPoints / William Nicholas Parrott / Natalie Wynn Parrott / Nykytyne2 - GamerGhazi Cannibalism Victim, Youtube "Intellectual"

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Concerning the death of one Jordan Neely in Manhattan Subway.
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Positron said:
Concerning the death of one Jordan Neely in Manhattan Subway.
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Amazing, Contra somehow found a way to use a subway homicide to indulge in AGP.

Of course Bob claims he would've stopped the dude using Bob Jutsu. The armchair operator stuff from the left never fails to amuse me when stuff like this happens. Every other day of the year they hate guns and complain about right wing violence but as soon as some piece of trash dies they're all Tier 1 veterans.
 
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Minor crossover here but I wonder who Blaire White is talking about in this clip... 🤔

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I don't think White even remembers Parrott. There are plenty of trans YouTubers who criticize Blaire White for inventing the term "transtrenders" including CopsHateMoe, Jessie Gender, Brennen Beckwith, and Noah Finnce.

Here are the next two tangents
Anti-LGBT
Artificial Intelligence

In the Artificial Intelligence one, he appears to have dyed the bottom of his hair pink. Unless there's lighting coming from a direction I can't see.

Both videos look very dull. I'm not planning on making highlights. Watch at your leisure
 
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Our "gorl: gets a mention she pulled a guy from the rabbit hole!!!

Why a supposedly libertarian magazine is promoting a communist is beyond me.
 
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Our "gorl: gets a mention she pulled a guy from the rabbit hole!!!

Why a supposedly libertarian magazine is promoting a communist is beyond me.
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This was only posted 5 hours ago? This shit with Faraday Speaks and "contrapoints deradicalized me" was relevant years ago at this point.
 
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Crossover with the SJW thread. Nyk is worried about the ongoing backlash to troons, especially porn. He's worried that 'if they come for your credit cards...what then?' Lol. Lmao, even. Archive
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Wynn and his troon allies were perfectly fine when the same thing was done to the Farms. Enthusiastically supported it, even. Now that the attention has been turned on them and their endless 'content' of them taking cum up their ass suddenly it's the worst thing ever.
 
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Contrapoints is going to be the first feature guest on LGBT activist but also not-LGBT activist Matt Bernstein's podcast, A Bit Fruity. The episode will be coming out September 19, 2023. Matt has been promoting the podcast for about two weeks after some alleged initial trouble getting support from his management firm, Select Management Group. It took nearly a year from proposal to getting production started, according to Matt himself.
As far as I can tell, Select Management Group is a subsidiary of Third Act Holdings Assets, LLC.
Hope you guys are able to listen to the podcast and then pick it apart. If I have time, I'll give it a listen and then offer a summary breakdown of the content. It's supposed to be a full hour long.
 
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The podcast is now up for all to listen on various streaming platforms.
For sake of consistency, I will be using the one as uploaded on Apple Podcasts. Link to listen here.
Here's the preview of the episode as displayed on Apple Podcasts:
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LGBT conservatives: Why? How? Where did they come from? What can we learn from them, and how can we dismantle the LGBT conservative that lives within all of us? Natalie Wynn (aka Contrapoints) helps us psychoanalyze one of the more confusing political positions of our time. Jeffree Star makes an appearance, for better or for worse.
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Background: Matt Bernstein is a netroots Jewish LGBT activist (despite his frequent insistence on not being called an activist) and LGBT-centric infographic creator. His biggest platform is Instagram, where he goes by @mattxiv (archive). As of writing, he has over 1.4 million followers and has an engagement metric (over 40% of followers actively engaging and liking his content on the more noteworthy posts) that would make most Instagram influencers pee their pants.
You probably recognize his posts by the soft color gradient of blue-pink that many faghags love reposting for their friends to see.

As promised, here's the executive summary. This is shorthand and should not be considered to be more than 95% accurate - but it is representative of what they discussed. My comments are in parentheses.
  • Matt sucks up to Nyk in the introduction, saying they are one of the "...smartest posters [on the internet]"
  • They talk about Jeffree Star and how Star looks fabulous, talking about how Star is an icon of queerness
  • Nyk talks about how Star has changed opinions on nonbinary people and pronouns, they/thems being invented during the pandemic
  • They discuss how Beretta (the gun company) caved to Star and made (what I believe to be?) a custom hot pink 92FS for Star
  • 7 minutes in, Matt finally gets to the topic of the podcast: queer conservatives, trans Republicans
  • Nyk comments that this doesn't make sense in a rational world (we live in clown world though)
  • Nyk tries to elaborate how this divorce of "LGB drop the TQ" types are trying to create a new dichotomy; as a means to separate and differentiate themselves from the crowd
  • Matt discusses how this divergence has been present since before the Stonewall Riots - assimilationists and liberationists (his words not mine)
  • "well maybe if we were a little more normal, we could fit in" is the rationale Matt proposes
  • Nyk states that this doesn't work. Assimilationists can't fit in a straight world, as Republicans would slowly squash them out of existence.
  • Nyk explains that some queer individuals need to assimilate to make the policy changes to allow for greater LGBT acceptance. Nyk cites Harvey Milk as a prime example of this.
  • "Sometimes assimilation goes too far and then you have something like Stonewall" - Nyk
  • Matt then talks about Blaire White, a Republican HSTS influencer.
  • Matt plays a clip on Blaire's position on nonbinary people. In the clip, Blaire says that "nonbinary people are the reason people don't understand trans people"
  • Nyk makes the observation that there is still a great amount of animosity directed at trans people within the public policy space, especially by people such as Ron DeSantis.
  • Nyk says that there will always be a grifter who says gay bashing will always be the fault of degenerate gays
  • They say Blaire White is a trans conservative "pick-me" type
  • Nyk says the YWNBAW line (lol)
  • Nyk theorizes that conservatives are uncomfortable with confronting that they may be attracted to trans women like Blaire. Therefore, make trans-bashing jokes about it
  • They theorize that Blaire has been sticking to the trans conservative line as an excellent financial grift, despite the rampant bashing that Blaire receives
  • Nyk says that conservative gays and associated conservative LGBT are "self-annihilating"
  • They segue to Ron DeSantis and how DeSantis' homophobia is going to tank his campaign
  • Nyk argues that bigotry in public policy has historically been done by "dog whistling" but has now dropped that facade.
  • They go over the policy columns that DeSantis has been proposing - "anti-groomer", "pro-religion", "anti-woke", etc
  • They discuss Log Cabin Republicans - gay Republicans which coalesced as a response to kill the Briggs initiative in California.
  • They say that these Republicans have been sucking up to the GOP for decades and haven't been successful in any of their initiatives.
  • They briefly discuss Dave Rubin and his switch from The Young Turks Democrat in 2015 to gay conservative.
  • Apparently Dave Rubin is a suck-up for DeSantis and Dave carries a photo of DeSantis in his wallet at all times
  • Matt plays a clip of Ben Shapiro publicly declining to attend Rubin's wedding to his husband (ouch!)
  • Shapiro says that Rubin lives in sin at all times
  • Nyk calls Rubin "spineless" (Rubin is spineless though lol)
  • Matt says that DeSantis can't tell the difference between "radical left gays" and "common sense gays"
  • Nyk states that Log Cabin Republicans will always suck up to the GOP, no matter what the GOP's official policy line is
  • They discuss that many gays have gone through a self-hatred phase, but how many don't turn to the self-hatred politics that have historically dominated the GOP
  • Nyk discusses that how Joseph Stalin was beaten by his father, and how many abusers have a tragic backstory
  • Nyk gets Freudian and how the desire of approval from parents is a deep-rooted desire
  • Stemming from that, Nyk talks about how homosexuals then stem from self-hatred of this parental approval
  • Matt gets therapy discussing his time in NYC and how he had initially mixed feelings on pride
  • Nyk talks about how they were inspired and anchored by an unnamed trans individual, attempted to emulate them in their early years of transition
  • Nyk almost fell down the rabbit hole of "I'm one of the good trans folx"
  • Talking about the rejection of what is unacceptable in the shadow self (effectively talking about "their egg cracking")
  • Nyk talks about how their anger towards this trans person was a reflection of their own insecurities
  • Matt says he wants to empathize with Log Cabin Republicans and understand their own personal shame.
  • Nyk says that those same Republicans are processing the same shame that many gays have gone through, and how Log Cabin Republicans still haven't gotten over
  • Matt talks about Gays Against Groomers and how compelling their talking points are
  • Matt calls these groups "cruel"
  • Matt asks Nyk how to stop the cycle of pain and trauma in the LGBT community
  • Nyk replies "Even if you're not a cruel or bigoted person, you may be drawn to these [talking points that Gays Against Groomers publicize]."
  • Nyk concludes that each person must come to their own conclusions to conscientiously not agree with personalities like Gays Against Groomers or Dave Rubin
They end the podcast with social media promotions including Nyk's YouTube and Patreon channels.

Alright, I do believe that covers everything they talked about. Feel free to add anything I missed or may be important.
 
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Text as shown in the screencap:
Background: Matt Bernstein is a netroots Jewish LGBT activist (despite his frequent insistence on not being called an activist) and LGBT-centric infographic creator. His biggest platform is Instagram, where he goes by @mattxiv (archive). As of writing, he has over 1.4 million followers and has an engagement metric (over 40% of followers actively engaging and liking his content on the more noteworthy posts) that would make most Instagram influencers pee their pants.
You probably recognize his posts by the soft color gradient of blue-pink that many faghags love reposting for their friends to see.

As promised, here's the executive summary. This is shorthand and should not be considered to be more than 95% accurate - but it is representative of what they discussed. My comments are in parentheses.
  • Matt sucks up to Nyk in the introduction, saying they are one of the "...smartest posters [on the internet]"
  • They talk about Jeffree Star and how Star looks fabulous, talking about how Star is an icon of queerness
  • Nyk talks about how Star has changed opinions on nonbinary people and pronouns, they/thems being invented during the pandemic
  • They discuss how Beretta (the gun company) caved to Star and made (what I believe to be?) a custom hot pink 92FS for Star
  • 7 minutes in, Matt finally gets to the topic of the podcast: queer conservatives, trans Republicans
  • Nyk comments that this doesn't make sense in a rational world (we live in clown world though)
  • Nyk tries to elaborate how this divorce of "LGB drop the TQ" types are trying to create a new dichotomy; as a means to separate and differentiate themselves from the crowd
  • Matt discusses how this divergence has been present since before the Stonewall Riots - assimilationists and liberationists (his words not mine)
  • "well maybe if we were a little more normal, we could fit in" is the rationale Matt proposes
  • Nyk states that this doesn't work. Assimilationists can't fit in a straight world, as Republicans would slowly squash them out of existence.
  • Nyk explains that some queer individuals need to assimilate to make the policy changes to allow for greater LGBT acceptance. Nyk cites Harvey Milk as a prime example of this.
  • "Sometimes assimilation goes too far and then you have something like Stonewall" - Nyk
  • Matt then talks about Blaire White, a Republican HSTS influencer.
  • Matt plays a clip on Blaire's position on nonbinary people. In the clip, Blaire says that "nonbinary people are the reason people don't understand trans people"
  • Nyk makes the observation that there is still a great amount of animosity directed at trans people within the public policy space, especially by people such as Ron DeSantis.
  • Nyk says that there will always be a grifter who says gay bashing will always be the fault of degenerate gays
  • They say Blaire White is a trans conservative "pick-me" type
  • Nyk says the YWNBAW line (lol)
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Now as far as I can tell, psychoanalysis seems like an unfalsifiable pseudoscience, but for the sake of argument lets grant that its a real thing. Isn't it standard practice that only a trained professional should be using it on patients that they personally talk to one on one? Why on earth does Nyk think he has any business diagnosing the hidden subconscious motivations of huge swaths of people he's never actually met in real life and this despite also having zero serious credentials in the field of psychology anyway? Is it because he's a pandering hack who knows his lobotomized cult will eat up whatever he tells them with no pushback whatsoever?

Seems like an awfully big coincidence that Nyk can always so easily dismiss everyone he hates as crazy bigots and thus he doesn't have to deal with any of their arguments at face value (while simultaneously claiming to be oh so empathetic, he just wants to understand how other people think guysss!). I mean for example - and this is so basic but I guess it bears repeating - the reason many LGBs want to split from the TQ+ is because they root themselves in the material reality of biological sex while the other thinks that screeching the phrase "social construct" over and over again is a serious argument. Likewise, the reason Blaire White doesn't get along with nonbinaries is because she's a transmedicalist who believes you need an actual official diagnosis of gender dysphoria to be trans while nonbinaries think trans is a social construct you can just self-ID your way into. These are two diametrically opposed worldviews but of course Nyk walks right past this debate because he just hates Blaire and wants to smear her as a self-loathing grifter and then move on.

And the idea that Nyk can accuse anyone else of being self-loathing is laughable when its so clearly the other way around. As if the rampant alcohol and drug abuse and promiscuity going on in the lgbt community isn't itself a product of self-loathing. Oh but sure, its the ones who want a quiet white picket fence lifestyle who are the freaks who have something wrong with them while the ones who choose to consume themselves with hedonism until they drop dead from it one day are the well-adjusted, "liberated" ones. I mean the proof is kind of in the pudding here, take one look at Blaire and Nyk and you tell me which of these two appears to be more psychologically stable than the other.

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  • Nyk theorizes that conservatives are uncomfortable with confronting that they may be attracted to trans women like Blaire. Therefore, make trans-bashing jokes about it
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lmao Nyk has been running with this cope for years now. "People only hate me because they secretly wanna fuck me waaah." Like tell me you're addicted to porn without telling me you're addicted to porn.
 
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  • Nyk gets Freudian and how the desire of approval from parents is a deep-rooted desire
  • Stemming from that, Nyk talks about how homosexuals then stem from self-hatred of this parental approval
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This piqued my interest, so I decided to transcribe this specific section:
I think that it's reasonable to have a level of animosity towards people who take their self-hate and then use that to hate other people and use that to bolster politics that's going to hurt all of us. I also think that when you deal with your self-hate - say, as a gay person - by being an enthusiastic trans-basher? Well at a certain point self-hate has become other-hate; you're passing it on, you're projecting it outwards, and I think that's just how bigotry works. Like I think a lot of bigots - every bigot, every abuser, every dictator has their own issues; they were deeply wounded in childhood, like Joseph Stalin was beaten by his father, every common domestic abuser has some kind of sad backstory - like, sure. The question is: what you do with that trauma? We all have some degree of trauma and I do think some level of self-hate is probably a near universal part of the queer experience.

Like who among us has not had times in our life when this was the most salient emotion we were experiencing. I think that it's very common. I remembered, when I was doing research for my video on cringe, reading all these reddit posts from people posting to like /r/confessions where it was like "I'm trans and I hate other trans people", "I'm gay and I hate other gay people". I remember this one post from someone who was - they lived in a very homophobic country and they came from a homophobic family and they described this experience of seeing a pride parade and feeling this horror and disgust, because there were scantily clad people and people kissing in public and wearing rainbows and it was "like everything my homophobic family would say they were - that's why my family would hate me and why I can't come out to them"...

Not to get all Freudian on it but a lot of time the family and from early in life - I think a lot of Conservative influencers probably have a homophobic father or something, and the desire for approval from your parents is a long lasting thing. Even if you no longer have a relationship with your parents, it's still somewhere inside of you. If you feel like you want your father's approval, you'll kind of seek out that type of approval from other right wing men. I think that that is - you know, it is like self-hate in a way, but it's more complicated than just self-hate because it touches this yearning for acceptance and love that we all feel and that queer people in particular, a lot of us have this basic wound of the shame from years of hearing ourselves disparaged, derogatory depictions in the media, hearing homophobic talking points within your own family growing up... So that yearning to be accepted and for the shame to be reduced motivates a lot of this behaviour I think. I think there is a grain of something sympathetic in that, that's not just "this idiot hates themselves".
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As always with Contra, it's not completely without merit, but I think it's ironic that Nat references people projecting without realising that making these sweeping assumptions about how certain people think may in-and-of-itself be projection.
 
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As always with Contra, it's not completely without merit, but I think it's ironic that Nat references people projecting without realising that making these sweeping assumptions about how certain people think may in-and-of-itself be projection.
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Exactly. I don't even necessarily disagree with the crux of his argument as far as self hatred goes, or disgust and dislike for a group you're a part of often being due to ingrained and socially enforced shame. I do think though that it's dishonest and an over-generalisation to say that this is a significant or even primary motivator for LGBT conservatives. No one exists in a vacuum and people like Blaire White are definitely pick-mes in some sense (and I think Blaire actually believes most of what he says, it's not mutually exclusive), but the issue with assuming everyone else is driven by that kind of insecurity if they deviate from being blindly supportive of what they're told is "their cause", is that you are actually further alienating those people and driving them away even more. You can't just viciously and totally shut down and hound people who have different opinions for whatever reason, which is what Contra's ilk does, and also expect to actually be able to extend an olive branch and act as if you sympathise with them.
 
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