Nintendo Switch (Currently Plagued) - Here we shit post about the new Nintendo console, The Switch

You know it’s crazy how much of a difference using the Switch would be if they just added music. I mean they barely do anything to add character to their stuff as much as they use too. I think for the Mario anniversary or something they had Mario on the shop and loading was 8bit Mario but that’s literally all they have ever done.

I mean the WiiU sometimes had different theme tunes that went with a big game or something going on and the Wii Shop music is legendary at this point. Just wish Nintendo would stop taking the wrong things from other companies.

It's a video game thread so you should probably do all of that in triplicate and proof read twice out loud.
Feels like I’m back in college man, where’s the Asians on the forum I can take posts off of?
 
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I mean the WiiU sometimes had different theme tunes that went with a big game or something going on and the Wii Shop music is legendary at this point. Just wish Nintendo would stop taking the wrong things from other companies.
The Wii Shop had an animation of Mario getting coins while you downloaded a game, and you could shoot fireballs if you happened to get Fire Mario. The 3DS has a fun icon-filling-up animation during downloads and you could unwrap your game as it appeared on the menu as a present. The Wii U had that slot machine minigame while the shop loaded. Granted, none of these things are necessary anymore since loading times are short and you can download things in the background, but it all felt so much more personal. I don’t have any fond memories of the Switch OS, it just sort of… exists.
 
The Wii Shop had an animation of Mario getting coins while you downloaded a game, and you could shoot fireballs if you happened to get Fire Mario. The 3DS has a fun icon-filling-up animation during downloads and you could unwrap your game as it appeared on the menu as a present. The Wii U had that slot machine minigame while the shop loaded. Granted, none of these things are necessary anymore since loading times are short and you can download things in the background, but it all felt so much more personal. I don’t have any fond memories of the Switch OS, it just sort of… exists.
Bro remember how if you transferred your save data from the Wii to the Wii U they used the Pikmin to show the data being moved from system to system?
 
Depending on which direction they go with Switch 2 there's a good possibility there'll be no immediate need to kill off Switch either.
That would only make sense if they were completely divorcing the Switch's successor from the console. If it is a Switch 2 in name and functionality it makes no sense to maintain the Switch past launch, anymore than it would have made sense to maintain the Wii past the launch of the Wii U.

I'm not trying to argue 3DS had strong support until the very last moment on the market, until its official discontinuation, but Nintendo didn't "move on quickly and not look back". That's just not what happened, so I really don't see why you're so sure it will now.
When you get right down to it, the only thing they did with the 3DS was release the remaining games they had in the pipeline for the system. By 2018, a year after the Switch's launch, the 3DS was practically dead and Nintendo had already moved on. If the Wii U had been a bigger success, the same thing would have happened with it. As it was, it was such a flop that Nintendo didn't even bother to put out one or two more holdover games and had ended manufacturing for it prior to the Switch even releasing. Releasing your last few games in the pipeline isn't really trying to maintain a console.

Of course, because they were doing the same 3rd pillar tactic of pretending they didn't curb stomp the GB/DS lines. That's been my only point this whole time.
Except they didn't really talk about it in terms of third pillar, only mulled over the idea. And, as I said twice already, you can argue whether or not they were really serious about it. @whatever I feel like believes that Nintendo Life were reading to much into what was said, and maybe they did. Others seem to think that Nintendo really were considering it. I fall somewhere down the middle. Nintendo were never really looking to third pillar anything. They merely kept the idea in their back pocket in case the Switch didn't pan out.

There's literally no way they'd actually put out a DS successor when intending for Switch to be the successor unless it underperformed or lost momentum there's too many reasons to list why that'd be a bad idea. Even that very article questions the seriousness of the claim, it was never actually intended and clearly would never happen so long as Switch succeeded.
Which I've already pointed out. Multiple times.

Not really, they'd cannibalize their own sales by competing against themselves.
And trying to maintain the Switch while also pushing the Switch 2 wouldn't cannibalize sales?

Better to support 3DS and Switch simultaneously, as they did.
Except Nintendo didn't really support the 3DS after 2017. All Nintendo did was release what was already in the pipeline.

Software definitely isn't moving PS5s lol
Sony right now are coasting on few multiplats (like COD) and name brand recognition. However, PS5 sales are nowhere near PS4 or even PS3 numbers, and will probably never get there at this rate. That's what happens when you have no games.

If Nintendo could split their attention between 3DS and Switch, which had entirely different libraries and formats, then I think they can much more easily do so with Switch 1 if they feel so inclined.
Apples to oranges comparison. 3DS games don't require nearly as many resources as HD Switch titles. And as pointed out, the 3DS was in end of life mode, with only remaining big game release being Pokemon, because The Pokemon company is going to get their Pokemoney. They were winding down that system, and they are already doing the same with the Switch, even before the successor releases.

Cross-gen games would be pretty easy at the very least, and assuming there's backwards compatibility they could use that to their advantage with an upgrade offer like PS4 to PS5 games have.
Cross-gen games are more likely. On the other hand, Nintendo don't want to encourage a PS5 situation where almost every game on a successor console is a cross-gen release.

Right, but that divorces the PS2 of context. Without going into the weeds, they could have called it the PlayStation AIDS and it'd have sold just as much thanks to being in the right place at the right time with the right tech. Just because it worked for Sony doesn't mean it will for every company, every time.
An exaggeration, but the PS2 coming out at the opportune time doesn't take away from the fact that the name didn't hurt it. And now is the opportune time to come out with a Switch 2; The Switch is long in the tooth and slowing down in sales, its two competitors are barely selling and have no worthwhile games coming down the pipeline, and we are a ways away from those consoles getting a successor (if they do get successors).

I'm not suggesting every Nintendo fan is a casual, but they makes up a significant amount of Nintendo's audience. I can't even begin to guess what the breakdown looks like and it probably fluctuates based on tons of factors, but it's more than the competition.
Casuals were Nintendo's dominant audience during the Wii era due to a conscious effort by Nintendo to appeal to them. But Nintendo discovered with the Wii U that casuals are fickle and quick to move on to the next big thing. Nintendo's focus with the Switch, as seen in their marketing, wasn't casuals. It wasn't even kids. It was gamers, and old fashioned Nintendo fans. You can see this in the Switch's initial reveal trailer. Young adults and college age people were who they were appealing to. And that seems to have remained consistent in their marketing this generation.

Sony's worst selling consoles still blow Nintendo's worst out of the water, the floundering PS5 already sold much more than Wii U and GC, and I'd be surprised if it doesn't pass at least N64 in a similar timeframe, if not SNES. I think that's because "hardcore" gamers stick with Sony.
Sony have basically been coasting on the PS2's success for the past few generations and have been helped by their competitors stumbling over their own two feet (Microsoft with the tv stuff and always online bullshit they tried to pull last generation, Nintendo with the Wii U). That was never going to last forever. Its already fallen apart in Japan and Nintendo basically dominate that country now, whereas it used to be Sony territory thru and thru. Hardcore gamers are moving on to PC or have largely stuck with the PS4, and many of them now also own Switches.

Nintendo was at its peak when it had no strong competition (NES), wasn't competing directly (Wii), or is selling a handheld (Switch, despite being referred to as a home console). It can't go head to head anymore, so I don't really think they'll try to sell Switch 2 on power and iteration, but we'll see.
I think the Switch has shown that this is simply an out of date take. Nintendo are relevant again when they looked dead in the water after the Wii U. They managed to win back a lot of people who wrote them off during the Wii/Wii U era. Nintendo have found their niche and well and truly capable of carving out their own position in the industry.

Bill Gates himself literally tried to convince Hiroshi Yamauchi to sell Nintendo all the way back at the turn of the century and it literally went nowhere. I don't know why they would think Nintendo would be willing to sell now.
 
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Sure, the same way trannies are official women, but we know what's really up.
There actually was a successor to the GBA in development at one point: the Game Boy Evolution. There were just a few old articles that mentioned it and nothing more was known until the 2020 gigaleak, where internal documents showcased what it was going to be and what it looked like. It looked just like a DS without the top screen.
 
Well now I know and for you fucking autists I’ll make sure to write all my game facts with one to one super detailed accuracy including every single time John S. Microsoft took a shit before he walked into Rare, saw the big ape and said “Yo fam we own that nigga right?!!”
There's a big difference between Microsoft expecting Donkey Kong to be part of the purchase while making the purchase, and one CEO being surprised and confused for like two minutes.
 
Bill Gates himself literally tried to convince Hiroshi Yamauchi to sell Nintendo all they back at the turn of the century and it literally went nowhere. I don't know why they would think Nintendo would be willing to sell now.
The fact that Yamauchi is gone, (along with Iwata) and mostly hubris and arrogance from Phil trying to secure his legacy by buying every company he can get his hands on.
 
I liked SMS, but I felt it was lacking compared to SM64.
For me it was FLUDD

The fun I had was 64 was that I was using Mario's skills to do whatever the hell I wanted to do. Not only that, but I could get any star i wanted, even out of order.

With Sunshine, you're HEAVILY reliant on FLUDD to get you to places, which means making sure your pump is always full of water, which means needing to find refill locations. It puts a stop on progress especially if you're a first timer playing it and have no idea wtf you're doing, and the majority of the FLUDD usage wil be to spray shit, including the floor, walls, and other objects (even enemies). Those non-FLUDD sections, as difficult as they were, were the only times where i actually felt like I was playing a TRUE mario game.
 
Super Mario Sunshine can be just mean sometimes, although the last time I've played it was like fifteen years ago. Currently not far away from reaching the end anyway.
I love Sunshine, but it has some real fuck-you mechanics.
For me it was FLUDD

The fun I had was 64 was that I was using Mario's skills to do whatever the hell I wanted to do. Not only that, but I could get any star i wanted, even out of order.

With Sunshine, you're HEAVILY reliant on FLUDD to get you to places, which means making sure your pump is always full of water, which means needing to find refill locations. It puts a stop on progress especially if you're a first timer playing it and have no idea wtf you're doing, and the majority of the FLUDD usage wil be to spray shit, including the floor, walls, and other objects (even enemies). Those non-FLUDD sections, as difficult as they were, were the only times where i actually felt like I was playing a TRUE mario game.
finally have an excuse to post this. Ever wanted to hear the Mario theme in Rugrats form?

well now you can!
 
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The fact that Yamauchi is gone, (along with Iwata) and mostly hubris and arrogance from Phil trying to secure his legacy by buying every company he can get his hands on.
Just as a reminder, even Phil knew it was not possible at the time (2020) and said as much in the e-mail. His hope is, I assume, that his own stuff takes off while Nintendo's plans go up in smoke. I mean, its not impossible that Nintendo seriously mis-steps somewhere, they've done it before. Though I don't think they are a serious target and the past three years have been very unkind to streaming services of all kinds, including Gamepass.
 
The fact that Yamauchi is gone, (along with Iwata) and mostly hubris and arrogance from Phil trying to secure his legacy by buying every company he can get his hands on.
You know people can have their issues and opinions about Nintendo but least these fuckers try to produce games. Phil has spent years buying up studio after studio all while acting like he and MS were doing it for the benefit of all Gamers tm. What do they have to show for it? Mid and shit Bethesda games and the complete destruction of the Halo franchise. I mean now he can coast on yearly CODs so good for him I guess but like how does this benefit us Gamers tm? I could easily see Phil in the same position as someone like Bob Igor not to far off in the future.
 
You know people can have their issues and opinions about Nintendo but least these fuckers try to produce games. Phil has spent years buying up studio after studio all while acting like he and MS were doing it for the benefit of all Gamers tm. What do they have to show for it? Mid and shit Bethesda games and the complete destruction of the Halo franchise. I mean now he can coast on yearly CODs so good for him I guess but like how does this benefit us Gamers tm? I could easily see Phil in the same position as someone like Bob Igor not to far off in the future.
ummm, uhhhh.....Crash Bandicoo - oh wait, all they're doing with it is a battle royale so mediocre that even the patron saint of Bandicoot dick, Caddicarus, won't comment on it. also it has a non-binary bat as one of the characters

uhhhhhh, Spyro - oh wait, they've done fuck all with it since those remasters 5 years ago (IT'S BEEN THAT LONG ALREADY, CHRIST)

ok ok ok ok ummmm. hmmmmmm. Tony Hawk - oh wait, the studio who worked on those remasters got banished to the COD mines, never to return
 
Man I’ve been out of the news cycle because this is the first I’m hearing about this Crash game. Who the fuck thought a Battle Royale with Crash of all things would be a good idea? Also of course it’s Activision so they have to shove a gender special into it. I mean this is the company that made sure MW2 had fucking gender flags in it before flags of different nations lol.

I had a genuinely good laugh at the idea of a CoD mine and those developers walking into the mines being greeted by poor Raven and the rest that Activision threw away…. But now I’m sad thinking about the wasted talent all to support fucking CoD.
 
I had a genuinely good laugh at the idea of a CoD mine and those developers walking into the mines being greeted by poor Raven and the rest that Activision threw away
you gave me an idea for a meme
starchaser cod mines.JPG
 
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