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Now where did I endorse the statements people of the past made here?
Will you prove me wrong or simply call me names because that's all what you have.
Thoughts on conservatives who say "Nobody cares about gay people, it's the trans stuff we're against"?
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I think the most important question to ask them is: "What are you conserving, and why do you call yourself a Conservative?" Although the way I see it, Conservative means relative right-wing (so it's not as right-wing as the previous generation). The trans stuff is simply part of the progression (as they call it) forward, previously when it was the whole gay thing. There is a possible future where current man-made horrors are conserved while arguing against worse horrors.
However, I would end on a positive note that such behaviour is commonly found to be disgusting and abhorrent throughout time and culture (that is not to say that there were no degenerates), so I have hope that one day action will be done as before.
However, I would end on a positive note that such behaviour is commonly found to be disgusting and abhorrent throughout time and culture (that is not to say that there were no degenerates), so I have hope that one day action will be done as before.
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"The neo-leninists are the real pedotransphobes"
Or something like that, you know what I'm talking about.
Or something like that, you know what I'm talking about.
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Because the conservative wants to conserve his money a nationalist wants to conserve his Nation
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Or to hell with the right wing
George Lincoln Rockwell
Or to hell with the right wing
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This is probably an unpopular opinion, but I kind of agree with these two guys. Not completely, but I guess that is the side of the camp I'm leaning towards. I've met gays that are 'normal', in the sense that I can have a five minute long conversation with them without figuring out that they are gay, and I've met and seen many gays that are exactly like what many anti-gay people say they are: sexual degenerates (not necessarily to the extent of being rapists and pedos, but definitely to an extent where it is a problem). Troons are a completely different story. They are all gross and crazy and none of them have ever done anything productive for society. There is also some historical evidence that homosexuality has existed for a long time while troons are a 20th century invention.
With that having been said, I still think that all of this gay culture shit is degenerate and gays should be treated like straight people. In other words, all extramarital sex or introduction of fetish shit into public spaces should be seen as disgusting and shameful.
Eunuchs were just castrated men. They were castrated for the purposes of guarding female-only spaces or to prevent them form reproducing. Nobody ever claimed that they were real women or some special gender. There was also never a movement to castrate men and boys like what we see today.
With that having been said, some of the anti-gay people in this thread have made some good points. Alot of people have talked about slippery slopes and I have to admit that things wouldn't have gotten this bad if being gay hadn't become normalized. Furthermore, I've seen slippery slopes occur in other places. Look at guns, the breakdown of the family, 'hate speech', black people, and (to an extent) women.
In addition to that have to admit that it's not crazy to suggest that mental illness may play a role in this. @I'm Retarded? has said a lot of stuff about this that makes sense to me. I wouldn't go so far as to say that all of them have mental issues, but certainly a lot of them do to varying extents. I don't know if this fact is enough to justify outlawing homosexuality the same way troons should be outlawed (there are many people who have some sort of mental disorder and don't cause problems for society), but I think it's real and concerning.
I also think that some gay people are involved with pedoshit (look at the San Francisco 'we're going to groom your children' gay choir thing) and that many gay people are willing to sweep that under the rug for their own benefit. I wish they wouldn't do this and I think we should call them out for this. Maybe part of this is due to a fear of backlash from the rest of society, but that doesn't really justify their actions.
It is also true that gay men have far more extra-martial sex than any other demographic. This is gross and should not be tolerated.
I personally think that, in an ideal world, we wouldn't have any troons and gays would be a very small percentage of the population (less than 1%) that most people don't even notice or care about. They would be sexually monogamous, adopt kids (after a far more intensive vetting process than what we have now), and generally act the same way straight people should act (in this ideal world, straight people would also be sexually monogamous). Unfortunately I have no idea how we could achieve this ideal world or if it is even possible.
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I remember how gays behaved back in 2015. It's no different than the way trannies behave now. Conservatives are just the left from a decade ago.
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the people who say that either aren't conservative or just hiding their powerlevels if they're mainstream.
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If there's anything I've learned from recent progressivism is that you can't coexist with evil. Homosexuals and transvestites should not be accepted within society.
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There’s no true conservatism outside of the Roman Catholic and Eastern Orthodox churches. This all started with the tolerance of a multiple ‘truths’ when protestants decided they need to divorce / masturbate / fornicate / contraceive / abort / transition.
HIV would not exist in our society if not for homosexuals spreading it so widely.
Casual sex, especially gay sex, is only possible with modern medicine. Even with modern medicine new diseases are developing because of the hyperpromiscuity of modern society, particularly homosexuals.
HIV would not exist in our society if not for homosexuals spreading it so widely.
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So-called "conservatives" say this because the LGBT mafia weaponized their own compassion and politeness against them, we've increasingly become a secular nation, they've bought into the myth of gays being harmless, and it is political suicide to oppose it, in that order.
There's several things to unpack with the LGBT phenomena that I don't think I could fit it in a single post without it being autistic as fuck and sperging, so I'll try to keep it brief.
To the first point, weaponizing compassion. This has long been a tactic of the left in general, but it has been particularly egregious with the LGBT cult. America - and by extension most western nations - has long considered itself to be a civilized culture. We have rule of law, a justice system that promotes fair treatment and trial, we believe men are innocent until proven guilty, we have laws against cruel or unusual punishment, and the list goes on. Some nations will take someone accused of stealing and just chop his hand off right then and there. Some nations will cane you publicly for littering. Some nations will take a gay person and just throw them off a roof, without any trial whatsoever.
We, however, see ourselves as above these "barbaric" policies. We treat criminals with respect and dignity, and the LGBT cult has weaponized this against conservatives. You shouldn't be so mean to gays! After all, even if it is a crime, who was hurt by it? It may be unnatural, but it's a non-violent offense, and you shouldn't be so cruel to them!
This led directly to the second point, the secularism. We, being such an enlightened, civilized nature, slowly began to slip away from the idea of God and objective morality. We trusted in science and studies and the Worldly-Wisemen in our midst who insisted that our policy should be based on pragmatism and reason. Now, this in and of itself is not objectionable, we honestly should base our policies on real-world studies and logic, but this is another tool the LGBT crowd likes to use frequently: citing a lack of evidence for a subject which has not been studied, and then using that lack of evidence as justification for whatever foul degeneracy they propose. They'll say "well prove to me that this is bad!" while not realizing that, one, the evidence you ask for does not exist because nobody has ever studied this before, and two, they are the ones making the assertion, therefore the burden of proof lies with them to prove their ways are good and harmless, not on us to prove that they aren't.
This led to the third point. With no prevailing evidence of being gay causing any major societal harm, it simply caught on that gays just wanted to be left alone. It became seen as cruel and heartless to tell people "no" to something they supposedly couldn't control (more on that later). They weren't hurting anybody, there's no proof, so why the hell not?
Over time, over many years of slowly seeping and marinating into the society, pushing the boundaries ever further, it has become so entrenched in our society and we've fully bought into the myth, that we now reach the fourth point: it is political suicide to oppose it. LGBT has gained such a stranglehold on our entire society, that even the slightest bit of pushback is seen as draconian and barbaric and bigoted. Now, even when we do have studies to show the downsides of this lifestyle (higher rates of domestic violence, higher rates of STDs, higher rates of mental issues, tendency towards promiscuity, strong correlation with childhood abuse, etc...) you could never get these studies publicized or disseminated, as nobody would dare say a word against the LGBT mafia. They successfully won over the culture. Nobody dare speak against them, lest they be branded a traitor and a bigot, and their opponents, still living in fear, a false sense of compassion, and having bought into the myths, will never take a stand against it.
My opinion on LGBT has always been the same. If you want to put your dick in another man's ass, or you want to rub coochies with another lady, fuckin' go for it. You obviously can't go door-to-door, breaking into people's homes and shouting "THERE BETTER NOT BE ANY GAY SHIT IN HERE!" That would be impractical, to say the least. However, that's about all the freedom they should get. You can boink who you want in private, but that's it. You will not be celebrated, you will not be promoted, you will not be officially recognized by the state, you will not be married, and you will not proselytize the ways of LGBT to the common man. You will keep that shit to yourself, the same with every other sexual fetish, and you will leave the rest of civilized, polite society alone.
There's several things to unpack with the LGBT phenomena that I don't think I could fit it in a single post without it being autistic as fuck and sperging, so I'll try to keep it brief.
To the first point, weaponizing compassion. This has long been a tactic of the left in general, but it has been particularly egregious with the LGBT cult. America - and by extension most western nations - has long considered itself to be a civilized culture. We have rule of law, a justice system that promotes fair treatment and trial, we believe men are innocent until proven guilty, we have laws against cruel or unusual punishment, and the list goes on. Some nations will take someone accused of stealing and just chop his hand off right then and there. Some nations will cane you publicly for littering. Some nations will take a gay person and just throw them off a roof, without any trial whatsoever.
We, however, see ourselves as above these "barbaric" policies. We treat criminals with respect and dignity, and the LGBT cult has weaponized this against conservatives. You shouldn't be so mean to gays! After all, even if it is a crime, who was hurt by it? It may be unnatural, but it's a non-violent offense, and you shouldn't be so cruel to them!
This led directly to the second point, the secularism. We, being such an enlightened, civilized nature, slowly began to slip away from the idea of God and objective morality. We trusted in science and studies and the Worldly-Wisemen in our midst who insisted that our policy should be based on pragmatism and reason. Now, this in and of itself is not objectionable, we honestly should base our policies on real-world studies and logic, but this is another tool the LGBT crowd likes to use frequently: citing a lack of evidence for a subject which has not been studied, and then using that lack of evidence as justification for whatever foul degeneracy they propose. They'll say "well prove to me that this is bad!" while not realizing that, one, the evidence you ask for does not exist because nobody has ever studied this before, and two, they are the ones making the assertion, therefore the burden of proof lies with them to prove their ways are good and harmless, not on us to prove that they aren't.
This led to the third point. With no prevailing evidence of being gay causing any major societal harm, it simply caught on that gays just wanted to be left alone. It became seen as cruel and heartless to tell people "no" to something they supposedly couldn't control (more on that later). They weren't hurting anybody, there's no proof, so why the hell not?
Over time, over many years of slowly seeping and marinating into the society, pushing the boundaries ever further, it has become so entrenched in our society and we've fully bought into the myth, that we now reach the fourth point: it is political suicide to oppose it. LGBT has gained such a stranglehold on our entire society, that even the slightest bit of pushback is seen as draconian and barbaric and bigoted. Now, even when we do have studies to show the downsides of this lifestyle (higher rates of domestic violence, higher rates of STDs, higher rates of mental issues, tendency towards promiscuity, strong correlation with childhood abuse, etc...) you could never get these studies publicized or disseminated, as nobody would dare say a word against the LGBT mafia. They successfully won over the culture. Nobody dare speak against them, lest they be branded a traitor and a bigot, and their opponents, still living in fear, a false sense of compassion, and having bought into the myths, will never take a stand against it.
My opinion on LGBT has always been the same. If you want to put your dick in another man's ass, or you want to rub coochies with another lady, fuckin' go for it. You obviously can't go door-to-door, breaking into people's homes and shouting "THERE BETTER NOT BE ANY GAY SHIT IN HERE!" That would be impractical, to say the least. However, that's about all the freedom they should get. You can boink who you want in private, but that's it. You will not be celebrated, you will not be promoted, you will not be officially recognized by the state, you will not be married, and you will not proselytize the ways of LGBT to the common man. You will keep that shit to yourself, the same with every other sexual fetish, and you will leave the rest of civilized, polite society alone.
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I've never been particularly disgusted by gays, but in my experience it's a pretty natural feeling to be uncomfortable around them in certain situations, and not without reason. A few of my friends ended up sharing a room with one when they were younger as part of a school holiday and one of them got touched in his sleep which preceded an attempted lynching. He was moved to a different house and nothing else was said about it.
There's just no real reason to open the door to this stuff, because once it's made itself comfortable in the center of the overton window, it invites all its weird dysfunctional friends to join the party. My rationale for this sort of thing hearkens back to the mouse utopia experiment, which, for those of you who are not aware, involved an enclosure of mice whose needs were met in their entirety, including food, water, living space and mating partners. This resulted in a marked uptick in sexual deviancy, including homosexual behavior.
If we were to observe the psychological and physiological trends that have come about over the past century mysteriously appearing in a population of once healthy, well adjusted animals, we would conclude that something is seriously wrong with them. It simply defies all logic that we accommodate this behavior and pass it off as normal just because it's people doing it.
There's just no real reason to open the door to this stuff, because once it's made itself comfortable in the center of the overton window, it invites all its weird dysfunctional friends to join the party. My rationale for this sort of thing hearkens back to the mouse utopia experiment, which, for those of you who are not aware, involved an enclosure of mice whose needs were met in their entirety, including food, water, living space and mating partners. This resulted in a marked uptick in sexual deviancy, including homosexual behavior.
If we were to observe the psychological and physiological trends that have come about over the past century mysteriously appearing in a population of once healthy, well adjusted animals, we would conclude that something is seriously wrong with them. It simply defies all logic that we accommodate this behavior and pass it off as normal just because it's people doing it.
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Slippery slope is very much a real thing.
The order of what's legalized first differs on a country-to-country basis but it all boils down to the same thing: traditional heterosexuality must not be visible in the sea of degeneracy that's flooding this world. (((Their))) plans to destroy normal families are very devious.
The order of what's legalized first differs on a country-to-country basis but it all boils down to the same thing: traditional heterosexuality must not be visible in the sea of degeneracy that's flooding this world. (((Their))) plans to destroy normal families are very devious.
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None of this shit is new.
Fags have been trying to make their kidfuckery normal since the dawn of sin, but they always fail, because they're the bottom bitches of society.
Fags have always been manipulated by satanists to keep them in power until someone just outright starts slaughtering them in masses.
Fags are weak and stupid and they'll kill themselves if you leave them on their own.
Fags have been trying to make their kidfuckery normal since the dawn of sin, but they always fail, because they're the bottom bitches of society.
Fags have always been manipulated by satanists to keep them in power until someone just outright starts slaughtering them in masses.
Fags are weak and stupid and they'll kill themselves if you leave them on their own.
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Now that the Religious Right voters from the Reagan era are dying off and the Libertarians have gotten more influence within the Party, (and countless Democrats have defected from theirs) homosexuality isn't such a big deal in the GOP anymore.
Gay marriage is protected by the US Constitution too. The SCOTUS ruling on that is considered pretty bulletproof. So long as religious freedom isn't affected, conservatives are either ambivalent or ok with that.
Late Boomer and other PMC gays and lesbians have a fair bit of wealth now that politicians of either party would love to get their hands on. So they pander accordingly.
Troons and pooners are a growing problem for the GOP. Rank and file constituents are anti troon and getting more vocal as troon antics and indoctrination in schools gets worse. But some federal GOP politicians think that they can keep getting the gaybucks and asspats if they tread carefully around LGBTQWERTY. That's why they have their own version of the Equality Act that they threw together in 2019 (The Fairness for All Act) which gives gender identity legitimacy and anti discrimination protection but also provides protection for faith based opposition. https://archive.ph/Y2PVo
That was 2019. Simpler times. Pre-DeSantis. I think there's still reluctance to dive into the gender wars on a federal level, (notice Trump's dodge the other day) but the gender wars are coming for them whether they like it or not.
Gay marriage is protected by the US Constitution too. The SCOTUS ruling on that is considered pretty bulletproof. So long as religious freedom isn't affected, conservatives are either ambivalent or ok with that.
Late Boomer and other PMC gays and lesbians have a fair bit of wealth now that politicians of either party would love to get their hands on. So they pander accordingly.
Troons and pooners are a growing problem for the GOP. Rank and file constituents are anti troon and getting more vocal as troon antics and indoctrination in schools gets worse. But some federal GOP politicians think that they can keep getting the gaybucks and asspats if they tread carefully around LGBTQWERTY. That's why they have their own version of the Equality Act that they threw together in 2019 (The Fairness for All Act) which gives gender identity legitimacy and anti discrimination protection but also provides protection for faith based opposition. https://archive.ph/Y2PVo
That was 2019. Simpler times. Pre-DeSantis. I think there's still reluctance to dive into the gender wars on a federal level, (notice Trump's dodge the other day) but the gender wars are coming for them whether they like it or not.
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Whether or not you believe them, it's the truth. Most conservatives do not give a shit about fags and dykes. They're mostly worried about troon and pooner insanity.
This is a teachable moment about the effectiveness of "closing past the sale." Go far, far beyond your actual goal, and moving back to the goal looks moderate. (Even having said that, I don't give a fuck about moral panics around homos, and I never have.)
This is a teachable moment about the effectiveness of "closing past the sale." Go far, far beyond your actual goal, and moving back to the goal looks moderate. (Even having said that, I don't give a fuck about moral panics around homos, and I never have.)
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And they were always shunned and even killed, the current tolerance you see its truly a first.
If they were natural then they wouldn't get rectal cancer from all the dicking.
Turns out buttholes are an exit-only hole.
Men have also been pretending to be women since forever, you got frescos from 3000 years ago of dudes wearing women's clothing. In terms of medicine I'm actually surprised how crude it still is, nothing but plastic surgery to make an ersatz man or woman. With all the research on genetics you would think there would be something better but nope, still butchering away.
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They hate gay people to and always have, and like to paint them as pedos to distract from the fact that conservatives are up to their eyeballs in child rape.
Even the trans shit is a distraction from all the fucked-up shit they're doing, like forcing children to give birth.
Even the trans shit is a distraction from all the fucked-up shit they're doing, like forcing children to give birth.
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Homosexuality was widely practiced amongst romans being part of their culture. They viewed it in a very different way than we do emphasizing the dominant and submissive roles between partners but to say it was shunned would be a lie.
I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume what you said it true. Homosexuality is natural in so far as been an observed behavior in dozens of species, that is to say, it isn't a human or artificial behavior. Being an unhealthy activity doesn't imply it should be banned, lest we forget the effects of ultra-processed food and booze cause to people.
That is called being a transvestite, not a troon. The theory of gender being detached of sex, which allowed for the creation of troons and Money's experiments, is a very recent one being developed by Simone de Beauvoir.
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You know what's also unhealthy and comes with tons of risks, including death? Giving birth.
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Bull-shit, maybe if you were a patrician you could get away with having a slave buttboy but if you were lower class and got caught fucking with a dude you would get ostracized, probably get your dick cut off by relatives of the other guy as a way to save their honor. And don't get me started on other cultures of the time.
It would get you shunned, maybe not killed, but you would be "the homo" of the regio you live in.
You got turkeys walking in circles until they die, entire pods of dolphins getting stranded on beaches for no reason, lions and tigers self-mutilating, etc, if some animals go gay it doesn't means its not abnormal and thus unnatural behavior.
There were men identifying themselves as women too, problem is it wasn't until plastic surgery arrived in the 20th century that they could go about butchering themselves to complete the look.
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