The Square Enix Griefing Thread

They lost a fortune on shit like Forspoken and Babylon's Fall but they also lost a ton on FF16. It isnt the only cause of their losses but it is a big loss too. Even moreso in terms of opportunity cost, their biggest franchise, their flagship series that represents the company failed.
Maybe if they didn't try to make it a fucking movie with 100+ hours of meaningless fluff dialogue like all of these showoff hacks making pretty messes do, it would have done better. Even Nier Automata didn't forget it was a video game first and foremost.
 
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And story/theme/tone because remember, they are now going after a more "mature" style and fan now as well as the new battle system.. (:_(
I'm a bit less worried about that, as long as it's not a drastic change I think it could actually be interesting, or at least not intolerable. As long as they don't make it cringe or woke then it's okay to experiment a bit, but we definitely don't need to lose another turn-based series.
 
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This kind of shit is one of the reasons why modern SE deserves to die:


Seriously.. this is her "swimsuit" skin!

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And remember that this is the Japanese/Asian version!
Square Enix is on this weird phase were they want to please the normies and the true fans at the same time. In the end you end up pleasing no one. I wouldn't be surprised if they end up getting bought by Sony in a few years as they are bleeding a lot of money. Final Fantasy XIV won't be able to keep them from sinking forever.

Speaking of the "bikini" it's weird that Square Enix decided to censor some existing attires that already appeared on Final Fantasy VII Remake. Tifa cowgirl outfit now has a black shirt and Yuffie pants are now bottomed.

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Square Enix is on this weird phase were they want to please the normies and the true fans at the same time. In the end you end up pleasing no one. I wouldn't be surprised if they end up getting bought by Sony in a few years as they are bleeding a lot of money. Final Fantasy XIV won't be able to keep them from sinking forever.

Speaking of the "bikini" it's weird that Square Enix decided to censor some existing attires that already appeared on Final Fantasy VII Remake. Tifa cowgirl outfit now has a black shirt and Yuffie pants are now bottomed.

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Tifa is saying what I'm thinking.
 
Square Enix is on this weird phase were they want to please the normies and the true fans at the same time. In the end you end up pleasing no one. I wouldn't be surprised if they end up getting bought by Sony in a few years as they are bleeding a lot of money. Final Fantasy XIV won't be able to keep them from sinking forever.

Speaking of the "bikini" it's weird that Square Enix decided to censor some existing attires that already appeared on Final Fantasy VII Remake. Tifa cowgirl outfit now has a black shirt and Yuffie pants are now bottomed.

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Tbf yuffie is 16, so I’d find it weird if all the EDP’s were thirsting over her.
 
I wouldn't be surprised if they end up getting bought by Sony in a few years as they are bleeding a lot of money.
Honestly, as time goes on, the less and less I see this being the case. Getting in bed with Sony is why they are in this position to begin with (losing sales through PS5 exclusivity). And Sony has its own issues with their floundering console and game sales. Buying Square Enix won't really help them in that regard due to Squeenix's own floundering sales and massive debt, remembering that we are probably less than a decade removed from Sony themselves being in debt up to their eyeballs. That buyout would be a wreck on a wreck.

Tbf yuffie is 16, so I’d find it weird if all the EDP’s were thirsting over her.
As if that's ever stopped anyone before.
 
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Square Enix is on this weird phase were they want to please the normies and the true fans at the same time. In the end you end up pleasing no one. I wouldn't be surprised if they end up getting bought by Sony in a few years as they are bleeding a lot of money. Final Fantasy XIV won't be able to keep them from sinking forever.

Speaking of the "bikini" it's weird that Square Enix decided to censor some existing attires that already appeared on Final Fantasy VII Remake. Tifa cowgirl outfit now has a black shirt and Yuffie pants are now bottomed.

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Japan has always done some weird stuff with regards to censorship. Xenosaga I was infamous in that its censored version was even creepier than its uncensored version.

 
Square Enix is on this weird phase were they want to please the normies and the true fans at the same time. In the end you end up pleasing no one. I wouldn't be surprised if they end up getting bought by Sony in a few years as they are bleeding a lot of money. Final Fantasy XIV won't be able to keep them from sinking forever.

Speaking of the "bikini" it's weird that Square Enix decided to censor some existing attires that already appeared on Final Fantasy VII Remake. Tifa cowgirl outfit now has a black shirt and Yuffie pants are now bottomed.

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The unbuttoned shorts made her look like a retarded hooker. It's much better now.
 
She's not real and as long as she isn't who cares if someone is thirsting over her? I find it weird people are thirsting over a literal Materia digging thief.
Real or not it can be a problem. What matters more is how old a character looks though, which is why the 9000 year old dragon excuse doesn't fly.

The unbuttoned shorts made her look like a retarded hooker. It's much better now.
I didn't even notice the difference at first, especially because the post says "bottomed" and I got confused (obviously meant buttoned once I noticed). On principle they shouldn't be altering the design to be more politically correct, but it looks fine either way.
 
Speaking of Dragon Quest, is DQ9 any good single player or does it just feel like playing a multiplayer game alone?

If you can get it unlocked with all of the "downloaded" content. The game released with content on the cart but it had to be unlocked by going online in the game. If you just pick up a cart and play it on a DS you can't complete all of the quests. Also the dungeon grinding gets old fast since all of the gear from there have no stats beyond armor and attack. If they ever remake it, I would hope they add stats to the end game armor to make it worth playing.
 
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Square Enix is on this weird phase were they want to please the normies and the true fans at the same time. In the end you end up pleasing no one. I wouldn't be surprised if they end up getting bought by Sony in a few years as they are bleeding a lot of money. Final Fantasy XIV won't be able to keep them from sinking forever.

Speaking of the "bikini" it's weird that Square Enix decided to censor some existing attires that already appeared on Final Fantasy VII Remake. Tifa cowgirl outfit now has a black shirt and Yuffie pants are now bottomed.

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Yeah, ugh. They just can't seem to help themselves. Even something as simple as a button. Looks so plain now. Tifa outfit there is just inexcusable and retarded.


Tifa is saying what I'm thinking.

Exactly


Japan has always done some weird stuff with regards to censorship. Xenosaga I was infamous in that its censored version was even creepier than its uncensored version.


I remember that bullshit. Caused quite a controversy in the day.. back before fighting censorship in gaming became "stupid" and "annoying".



As if that's ever stopped anyone before.

She's not real and as long as she isn't who cares if someone is thirsting over her? I find it weird people are thirsting over a literal Materia digging thief.

Yup. This is where I stand on the issue at this point. I draw a hard line between fiction/fantasy and reality. Things get way to messy and dangerous to do otherwise. "She" is colored shapes on a screen, less than even a technical object, purely in the realm of fantasy and imagination. I mean it's not like she looks like a loli or something either.


To be fair here the Aerith one that came after is much better

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Interesting.. That's not quite as bad. Still kind of conservative with the way it covers, but not bad from this look. Now if only they didn't restrict physics to everything but the breasts, it might look more natural. -_-


Real or not it can be a problem. What matters more is how old a character looks though, which is why the 9000 year old dragon excuse doesn't fly.


I didn't even notice the difference at first, especially because the post says "bottomed" and I got confused (obviously meant buttoned once I noticed). On principle they shouldn't be altering the design to be more politically correct, but it looks fine either way.

Hey, that's not as ridiculous of an argument as it's often portrayed. We have real life versions of the 9000 year old lolis. Like that one 23 year old girl who had the reality show. Stopped aging at ~8. lol

Seriously though.. That's the position i take now with these sorts of questions. On principle, there is never a justifiable reason to censor or change fiction.. especially for so-called ethical or moral issues.
 
Hey, that's not as ridiculous of an argument as it's often portrayed. We have real life versions of the 9000 year old lolis. Like that one 23 year old girl who had the reality show. Stopped aging at ~8. lol
She didn't even look like a kid, just an uncanny midget.

Seriously though.. That's the position i take now with these sorts of questions. On principle, there is never a justifiable reason to censor or change fiction.. especially for so-called ethical or moral issues.
If it's sufficiently obscene, I disagree. But an anime girl who could pass for 18 having unbuttoned shorts isn't particularly bad, so in this case it shouldn't have been censored.
 
Real or not it can be a problem. What matters more is how old a character looks though, which is why the 9000 year old dragon excuse doesn't fly.
She's a fictional character, who cares. Especially because how "old" a character looks is entirely arbitrary and can shift just by whatever art style an artist chooses to use.
 
She's a fictional character, who cares. Especially because how "old" a character looks is entirely arbitrary and can shift just by whatever art style an artist chooses to use.
I don't wanna derail the thread debating it, I don't feel too strongly about the topic anyway, but suffice to say there's certainly a point where any normal person would find even fictional content objectionable and obscene.
 
I don't wanna derail the thread debating it, I don't feel too strongly about the topic anyway, but suffice to say there's certainly a point where any normal person would find even fictional content objectionable and obscene.
Finding something objectionable and obscene isn't the same as something actually being morally wrong. But yeah, I don't want to derail the thread. However, I think we both agree that the Yuffie censorship is stupid.
 
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