Community Munchausen's by Internet (Malingerers, Munchies, Spoonies, etc) - Feigning Illnesses for Attention

Spinda Bifida Occulta (From what I see this is asymptomatic there is no reason she is non-ambulatory)
As your resident owner of a weird spine: yep, it's basically a non-thing. By definition it's occult - hidden. It's generally an incidental finding while getting imagining for something completely unrelated. If she's not straight up lying, she found out while getting an x-ray or something for one of her other "conditions". I'm actually inclined to say not completely lying because according to Columbia University
The National Institute of Neurological Disorders and Stroke estimates that 10- 20 percent of people may have spina bifida occulta.
 
OK, so I just encountered a EDS+POTS+gastroparesis ga'l by chance on Instagram, and got a bit curious so I ended up searching for #ehlersdanlossyndrome and got more than 640 thousand posts. These are the top:
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As you can see, to no one's surprise there are a lot of wheelchair uses and POTS posts associated with this hashtag. So my questions for any medfags here are: how common is it for actual EDS-patients to need a wheelchair, and what is the likelihood that the combination EDS+POTS+gastroparesis is this common? Would there be a reason that people would get all three together, or is it just a munchie thing?
Sorry if the questions have been asked before but this thread will move a mile a minute sometimes so I often just skim through discussions to see the latest updates on the topics themselves.
 
I don't know if this has been posted previously, but all this talk about EDS reminded me about an article I read a few years ago about a quack doctor who gets paid to testify that child abuse cases are actually EDS.

In the study, Holick examined the cases of 72 children who the authorities believed had been abused. He diagnosed 67 of them with EDS. In a third of the cases, he based his diagnosis on physical exams of relatives of the children, not the children themselves.

In June, a mother from the United Kingdom whose son had 22 rib fractures contacted Holick. The only detail of medical history she offered was that she found out after her pregnancy that she had been vitamin D deficient. “It is certainly possible that the fractures were due to infantile rickets and vitamin D deficiency,” Holick responded. “It’s also possible that he may have had a genetic disorder that predisposes him to having fractures. It’s known as Ehlers Danlos syndrome.”

 
So my questions for any medfags here are: how common is it for actual EDS-patients to need a wheelchair, and what is the likelihood that the combination EDS+POTS+gastroparesis is this common?
EDs can put you in a wheelchair but that’s the very unlucky and extreme end. It’s several different forms, with the munchies mainly faking or exaggerating the ones which conveniently aren’t tested for.
The VAST majority of patients prefer to keep mobile because muscle tone and strength keeps the worst effects at bay. If you have no muscle tone plus weak connective tissue you’re going to be in pain. Patients are taught to avoid deconditioning
 
Patients are taught to avoid deconditioning
Funny that you're mentioning this, since one of the top posts on the hashtag was this absolute harpy screeching about her doctor gaslighting her by telling her she feels like shit due to deconditioning: Link
(she claims EDS + Maffucci syndrome + Hashimotos, I have no idea if it's true but I do know that fatigue is definitely worsened by not moving enough. edited to add: i also know that i hate that bitch from just seeing one of her instagram videos)
 
Funny that you're mentioning this, since one of the top posts on the hashtag was this absolute harpy screeching about her doctor gaslighting her by telling her she feels like shit due to deconditioning: Link
(she claims EDS + Maffucci syndrome + Hashimotos, I have no idea if it's true but I do know that fatigue is definitely worsened by not moving enough. edited to add: i also know that i hate that bitch from just seeing one of her instagram videos)
Mafucci is very, very rare indeed.
 
Mafucci is very, very rare indeed.
So rare that there have been fewer than 200 cases described worldwide since the syndrome was first characterized in 1881. This doesn't necessarily mean that this individual is being deceptive, but it is interesting.

I only looked at her Instagram briefly, but I did not see that she had any enchondromas or hemangiomas. Again, not saying that she doesn't have Maffucci syndrome, but it makes me wonder.

Enchondromas are benign (non-cancerous) cartilagenous tumors which arise in the bones. They're a very common tumor, and most of the time, they are not associated with a syndrome. In those cases, they have a very low potential for malignant transformation. Typically, they occur as a solitary mass of one the bones of the hand, and they are usually not painful or otherwise symptomatic.

Hemangiomas are also benign tumors. They arise from endothelial cells, which form blood vessels. For poorly understood reasons, these cells sometimes proliferate abnormally, forming a "tangle" or mass of capillaries. They most often present as a reddish purple, bumpy, rubbery lump on the surface of the skin, although in less common cases they can grow elsewhere. They are very common in infants and children, and almost always go away on their own before adulthood. If you've ever seen a baby with a "strawberry" birthmark, it was a hemangioma.

Patients with Maffucci syndrome are usually normal at birth, but in early childhood, they begin to develop multiple enchondromas and hemangiomas. Most often, the enchondromas affect the limbs, but other bones can be affected. In normal people, they almost always remain small (<3 cm) and do not cause problems. In people with Maffucci syndrome, however, the enchondromas can become large and often cause fractures and severe disfigurement of the extremities. Most affected individuals have short stature and severe skeletal deformity. They usually have multiple large hemangiomas, which are a distinguishing feature of the syndrome.

Affected individuals generally have a normal lifespan, unless the benign tumors undergo malignant transformation, which happens in 30-50% of cases. They appear to be at particular risk of developing chondrosarcoma, a cancer arising from cartilage which has a particular predilection for the base of the skull. Although chondrosarcoma is relatively slow growing for a sarcoma and has a much better prognosis than other cancers of this type, skull base tumors are notoriously difficult to treat given their tricky location.

Maffucci syndrome is caused by a mutation in one of two genes, IDH1 or IDH2, which encode enzymes called isocitrate dehydrogenases. The causative mutation in Maffucci syndrome also predisposes affected individuals to several Very Bad types of malignancy, including astrocytoma/glioma/glioblastoma (brain cancer), cholangiocarcinoma (bile duct cancer), angiosarcoma (blood vessel cancer), osteosarcoma (bone cancer), acute myeloid leukemia (blood cell cancer), among others.

Interestingly, glioblastomas with a mutation in either IDH1 or IDH2 have a much better prognosis than their wild type counterparts. That's kind of far afield of this post, though, so I'll end it here.

Okay, okay. So I guess I am kind of saying that I don't believe she has Maffucci syndrome (unless she's got enchondromas that I didn't see).

Edited minor word usage that was bothering me
 
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I am sure many of the people in this thread have had that moment where they have firsthand experience with an illness, medication, or other topic we're discussing and they want to share that information. But then they pause a moment and find a way to word it that still gives out that information without making it about themselves.

Mainly because we're not all idiot attention seeking munchies secretly hiding in the hope senpai notices us
 
Okay, okay. So I guess I am kind of saying that I don't believe she has Maffucci syndrome (unless she's got enchondromas that I didn't see).
She doesn’t have any of the (very disfiguring) enchondromas or haemangiomas or symptoms like macrodactyly. She does seem to have a scar on one leg and she seems from a quick swish through her reels to have had surgery on that leg. Not sure if that was for lengthening, it could very well have been from the looks of it (looked like an external frame on it.)
Just from a quick look at her and her surgery pic I think she does have some kind of bone growth issue. If I had to guess I’d say Ollier disease or perhaps one of the other chondromatosis disorders. I’d need to see the sequencing tbh.
She’s also lost her mother young - I suspect she does have some kind of physical issue, and this is her coping with grief by getting medical attention.
Marfuccis is defined by multiple enchondromas, it is by definition, disfiguring (awful illness to have) and she seems to not have any. But a unilateral involvement of a long bone I can buy.
Marfucci also has quite a poor prognosis - the rate of conversion of those lesions to malignancy is very high.
She mentions ALS. I have to go poke through my arrays now and see if there’s any overlap. ALS is triggered by multiple genes.
 
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They state they have Spina Bifida occulta, Myathenia Gravis, autism, adhd, ptsd, mitochondrial myopathy, neurogenic bladder, muscular dystrophy, hydrocephalus, chronic fatigue syndrome, myalgicencephalomyeltis. spastic bladder, fibromalagia, osteoarthritis, hypothyroidism, hashimotos, gastroparesis, psuedotumor cerebri, dysautonomia, legally blind, and quadriparesis. She lists ME/CFS as seperate stating the world is wrong to say they are the same
faking muscular dystrophy as a female, these munchies are not sending their best. females don’t get muscular dystrophy

females can be manifesting carriers where they show some symptoms but almost never as severe as what males experience. Even if she was a manifesting carrier she would be milking that instead of other made up illnesses.
 
females don’t get muscular dystrophy
They can (being pedantic sorry.) . There are multiple forms. DMD (duchenne) is all boys for the dosease form as it’s x linked. The vast majority of carrier females have no issues but some can have a degree of muscle weakness.
There are other types of MD that can affect women. Limb girdle MD for example.
Maybe she’s a carrier and munching off that, but females can get some of the types of MD. There’s 9 distinct types. Some affect only males and some are male and female
 
faking muscular dystrophy as a female, these munchies are not sending their best. females don’t get muscular dystrophy

females can be manifesting carriers where they show some symptoms but almost never as severe as what males experience. Even if she was a manifesting carrier she would be milking that instead of other made up illnesses.
I have three female family members with muscular dystrophy. I'll go tell them they're lying, I guess.
 
I know this is a retarded post. But I've always wondered what they did with their pictures as it never looked like high contrast or saturation buggery to me.
I found out, they use the "dehaze" in Photoshop, you can make your perfectly healthy skin look like you have all sorts of shit going on.

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Sorry to dredge up an old conversation, but you can actually get this effect with the base Instagram filters.
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Set the lux and structure to +70% or so (where +100 is the max), and play with contrast, warmth, highlight brightness, and shadow brightness to get a decently convincing, sickly-looking result.
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And if you really wanted to push it, you could crank the lux and structure to 100, go nuts with the color effects, and absolutely deep-fry your picture.
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Now, which edit do Abby's examples most closely resemble?
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If I wanted to make a sick edit that was actually convincing, I'd definitely opt for Photoshop's dehaze effect. But why do that when the Instagram filters are right there?!
 

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Final part of the Skinwalker saga. Last part we watched her go from a healthy but chubby Disney employee to an angry bulimic Jaquie clone who caught the attention of Lolcow Farms. She got a service dog, a port, a feeding tube, and finally a custom wheelchair all in the span of a few months and even got to be on Jaquie's vlog before a mysterious falling out with the Munchie Queen. We left off right when LCF was banning munchie threads and Amanda was preparing to go back to W-O-R-K-I-N-G at Disney.

In very late February or early March 2018 Amanda posted a cryface selfie where she tearfully said her employment at Disney was no longer certain due to “one small accommodation issue.” I have no proof this post existed. I saw it while scrolling my feed one day, then she locked down her insta and booted almost everyone including my sock. And this is why I started archiving everything. Once Amanda privated her account I expected there to be leaks like there always had been. Every other time I’d followed a lolcow there had been people who flew under the radar to give us the goods if they went private or jumped accounts. No true lolcow could resist an anonymous stranger who pretended to be sympathetic. This time it didn’t happen. Amanda locked down, changed her name to amandaandsadiemae, and that was it.

She came to r/IllnessFakers one time in March 2018 to say she read everything we had been saying, realized people were right and she was being really spoiled and entitled, that social media was controlling her life and making her focus on the negative and that she started to get really over the top about things. She lost friends and became isolated. So she took a step back, realized she needed to talk to an actual therapist and deal with her mental health issues, she went for less invasive treatments, took fewer medications, and was working on rebuilding her burned bridges. In the absence of proof, people were skeptical at first. (Also senpai noticed me! I was the only one talking about her on the farms.)
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A few weeks later another person showed up to say she was just a follower but she could confirm Amanda changed a lot. This was posted on 4 April 2018. There is a good chance this is also Amanda or someone posting on her behalf and it’s the only post on the account. She’s back to work. She realized a feeding tube was not a long-term solution, just a bandaid to keep her weight stable, and she got a gastric stimulator/pacemaker instead which was working. Her port was no longer hanging out of her shirt in every picture. Not-Amanda says she just shouldn’t be discussed anymore because there’s nothing to discuss. With that, Amanda was dropped from the list of discussion topics at r/IllnessFakers and allowed to ride off into the sunset.
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So now what? Amanda’s private on instagram. No one who has access to her accounts is talking. I watched and I waited and I learned how to dox just so I could find some small scraps of her. This is when I first found her facebook page. She occasionally uploaded a new profile pic or a dose of Sadie. Nothing interesting but at least we knew she was alive.
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Sometimes with a hint like blood donation or "sock it to sepsis" filters.
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And sometimes one of her family members would tag her in something.
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She has a Poshmark, but she never sold anything on it. Her size is listed as 0/small and we learn she survived sepsis at some point.
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She has a Quora, again no activity. But it does add a little mystery into a story I was told, because she joined in Sept 2018 but lists her location as Celebration. One of the many stories I was told was that Amanda never went back to Disney after her "illness" started, because she claimed she needed the wheelchair for GBS and then could provide no documentation she actually had GBS. I was a pretty regular visitor to the Polynesian at the time (I am a sucker for their tiki bar) but never once saw Amanda. So I believed that story, especially after I'd seen the "accommodation issue" post and knew that by the time she returned to the internet she was no longer employed there.
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But there's this unexplained Celebration address for her, at the Camden Town Square Apartments. It's possible she lived here during the 2015-16 content drought when we know she was working in Disney. But this location advertises itself as being wheelchair accessible so it's also possible at some point she did start up at Disney again and move out of the house. If she did, it was for a year at most. Since I'm essentially tracking her address based on the times she had to go to court I can't place this one.
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She has a Pinterest. Because of how that site works it’s almost impossible to figure out when she pinned things, but there’s a little to keep us interested until the Queen feels well enough to have an audience again.
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We can be sure this is the real Amanda because her sister collabs on some boards.
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The oldest content on here is nothing special. Makeup, crafts, and unfunny early 2010s memes.
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Disney, of course. Last updated 8 years ago. It’s all Disney inspired outfit ideas.
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The board “Healthy Recipes” last updated six years ago, is where we start seeing the fun stuff. 6-7 years ago would have been when the ED really hit.
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This board includes things like “sandwich bites” made with zucchini slices instead of bread, “pizza bites” that were just tomato slices topped with cheese and basil then baked, etc. . .
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You can kind of get an idea of some of the content that was probably on here before Pinterest went scorched earth on Pro-Ana shit. A lot of the “recipes” are illustrated by a very thin young woman and some are just stock images of thin women with healthy food and no recipe attached.
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Some of them explicitly state they’re very low calorie or advertise diets that will help you shed the pounds and feel full.
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And of course, the most recent pin was the weight watchers soup we’ve all tortured ourselves with at some point in our lives.
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“Tips” of the same era. This one. I only wish I had found these before Pinterest banned the most blatant ED bait content because I’m sure it was even more incriminating but let’s look anyway.
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Normal shit followed by workouts and pinching a muffin top.
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And right into before-and-after weight loss, fat burning workout routines, and tips for flat stomachs nestled between tips on natural spider repellants, ant killers, and stainless steel cleaner
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And ways to stave off the less desirable effects of rapid weight loss like biotin supplements for her hair and nails.
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And how to eat on a cruise without gaining weight. It’s almost amazing how transparent she was. This is all public.
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To be fair to her, she also has boards for cupcakes, cookies, cheesecakes, and other baked goods from this era that are anything but healthy and even her vegan board is all carby rice and pasta recipes but it’s kind of a trope that people with eating disorders LOVE cooking and baking treats for other people and looking at unhealthy recipes as “food porn.” And we already know she’s bulimic.
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Beyond that, Amanda stayed silent on every public platform I could find until 2018 when she appeared in an article about New Horizons Service Dogs. It was an interview about how fake service dogs post a risk to real service dogs and their handlers. The article itself is archived here but the version that had the image gallery these photos came from is lost. Amanda was matched with her dog Hickory in August and after weeks of training workshops with NHSD she was allowed to take him home in October. She is looking much thinner than the last time we saw her. You could slice cheese on that ana jaw. You can also see her port is still there, although not hanging out of her shirt this time.
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This photo in particular is interesting. I know it’s potato quality but if you squint you can just barely make out that Amanda has an extra cushion on top of her normal wheelchair cushion. My guess is because she has lost so much weight the chair no longer fits her. I mean, it never did, but now it really doesn't.
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Here she is with NHSD puppy raiser and also-munchie Rachel Denton. Rachel did not yet have a stroke, and despite being very slim herself she looks very healthy compared to the ghoul next to her.
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Of course as soon as she has a program-trained dog for wheelchair tasks Amanda has to show that she can crouch next to her dog in Disney again.
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Sister Jessica came to visit that December.
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This is when we’re going to get real deep into the trust-me-bro territory where I have to explain what I have, where it came from, and try to piece together a story from what fragments I kept. In February she was doing RunDisney Races with a girl named Ashley Carroll aka frecklesthered/redheaded racer. When I first posted the timeline I saw Ashley here posting old videos of her running and normal photos of her in the chair. I also saw her go from chunky to skinny queen. I assumed she was like all the others: eating disorder, wheelchair for attention, and from what I understand she was a giant attention-seeking munchie asshat in the beginning. But Ashley is (allegedly*) one of the Afrin victims and now she’s really fucked. She was fat from his steroid protocol and she is one of the ones whose spinal nerves were strangled by epidural lipomatosis. Because her friend had recently died after getting her own Afrin Surprise! removed, Ashley opted not to and just tapered off the steroids and lived with the damage done. She’s now really paralyzed. (*I have no proof of this, she was just hanging out with the Afrin girls, then she was bloated, then her spine died, and when I asked about it I was told she had the same doctor as Taylor Nearon.)

Ashley apparently knows that her facebook and messages got leaked to me. Most of what you’re about to hear came from people who knew Ashley. I wouldn’t necessarily have engaged with these people if it was today. I actually really hated one towards the end of our interactions, found her an unreliable narrator, and became increasingly uncomfortable with the material that was coming to me which is why I’ve never posted it until now. I finally cut off all communication with that one when she accused Ashley of faking her mother’s death in 2020 and made it sound like I agreed with her that the death claim was suspicious. I said nothing of the sort but this bitch was retarded with the reading comprehension of a toddler so whatever I said to her about ashley’s mom (probably something like “that’s sad if true”) she took as me agreeing that it was suspicious instead of just trying to make her leave me the hell alone unless she has new skinwalker news. This is all to say, much of this is gossip, I do not trust the person who told it to me, but they did give me at least some things to back up what they claimed.

From what I have been told, Ashley befriended Amanda trying to get Amanda to realize she was going down a dangerous path before it was too late. One of the leaked items I had that is totally gone now was an early FB messenger conversation between Amanda and Ashley, where Amanda tells Ashley that in addition to the combo platter she also had GBS, kidney and heart failure, muscular dystrophy, and early-onset Parkinson’s Disease but she was getting a second opinion on that last one. Whether Ashley really believed it or not is unknown. Sorry, no proof of this. This is one of the things that is really truly gone unless someone else who had copies (I know there were a few of us) steps up. Ashley was an avid runner pre-injury and after she got involved in pushrim racing. She is now a pretty elite wheelchair racer who gets selected for invitational marathons like Boston (another reason we know she’s really disabled, since she wouldn’t have qualified if she wasn’t classified like Abby Sams taught us). But Ashley’s attempts to get Amanda involved in her own hobbies backfired because instead of finding a nice ParaVolley team or volunteering with children, Amanda simply skinwalked Ashley and got super into wheelchair racing which helped her lose even more weight. She bought a yellow handcycle and completed a RunDisney 5k in February.
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Here's ashley tagging her in promos for other races
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She missed another race later that month because she was in the hospital. Here’s another unverifiable but funny-if-true story. Amanda is claiming she’s in the hospital because she needs plasmapheresis for her GBS and this came after she collapsed and split her head open and had to get an IJ line. I said in my original timeline that it just looked off. It looks like she walked by a hospital room that had a dialysis machine in the doorway and she quickly snapped a photo of it as “proof” she was getting treatment. From what a leak said people got conflicting stories about this and when she first sent images of it out she said it was for dialysis for kidney failure. It was only after people asked why she wasn’t getting regular dialysis if she was in real kidney failure that she said it was actually for plasmapheresis for her GBS. Here’s the best I can do: me talking to the leak about a theory I had that she had gotten a false positive for GBS when she was getting IVIG.
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Some of this is redacted for the sake of storytelling. We were discussing all this long after the fact so we already knew how it ended. Some because would possibly get an innocent party in trouble because this person was a fucking retard and I can’t stress that enough. But here’s me talking about how I had gotten two sets of messages I was not intending to share in the first place but didn’t have them by this point anyway (November 2019). The first set in question is the one where Ashley and Amanda were discussing Amanda’s health.
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A very skeletal Amanda competed a RunDisney Star Wars half marathon in April and signed up for others after it. Also note momma Donna saying she’s gotten a new job with Disney.
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When I originally did the timeline in Summer 2019 I found evidence she was still signing up for more races.
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Look how damaged her teeth are now. There’s basically no enamel left on them and this was long after she stopped purging the old fashioned way because she had her tube.
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Here’s her church back home in Nebraska praying for her around this time.
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More photos from these events were included in a happy birthday video for Hickory, where you can see despite just finishing a wheelchair race she’s still getting out of her chair to crouch next to her dog for photo ops or walking around Disney with him.
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Here's some more assorted pics from the video
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In April she posts about a “slow but rapid decline” of her health over the last seven months. Treatments were no longer working, her weight kept dropping, and she was put on TPN. She had sepsis, her central line was pulled, her gastric pacer was removed, but her dog was with her through this scary time. This was part of a fundraiser for NHSD.
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Meanwhile on FB she’s making may-mays about the dog calling her fat.
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And doing a different Star Wars race. I don’t know enough about Run Disney to figure out what ones she was doing or her scores or anything.
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In April 2019 Jaquie entered the hospital for the last time. While she was dying, Amanda was doing this. This is her and Rachel discussing how Rachel is at Trevino's office and is worried Jaquie will find out she also goes to Trevino. From this, we know Amanda and Rachel do, indeed, see the same quacks that Jaquie and the rest of them do and they do not want people to know, because they all know Trevino is a diagnosis mill. The third person in the convo who took these screenshots is Ashley.
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A few weeks later Amanda made this long, dramatic post about her life and here’s where we got some deep lore. Remember Brian Finch of Finch on the Run? That was a three year DV relationship where her mother and sister had to drive out to rescue her in the middle of the night when she finally had the courage to escape. Even though she lived with him and his wife and the couple went to Disney with her family. She’s now down to 90 lbs after losing 150, putting her high weight at 240. She claims she was in ICU for two weeks for anaphylaxis – if she’s talking about the time over New Years then no, LCFers already pointed out if she was in ICU they wouldn’t let her wear her street clothes, but it’s just as likely another time after that. Her muscles are failing. Sadie is retired now. The gastric stim was removed due to sepsis. And the second to last paragraph is lovebombing Ashley and softly admitting she’s copying her.
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This was the accompanying photo and whoops that’s not her pink and white Tilite. That’s a new, smaller wheelchair, which apparently had the same options Ashley’s did which Ashley did not fail to notice. Again redacting shit for the sake of storytelling, mostly. Leak claimed Amanda was so thin she needed a pediatric seat width.
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Sadie’s not really retired, by the way. Her mom started her new job in Guest Services at disney because she claimed she had a back injury working security. She used this to justify needing a service dog and started working Sadie again. We know this because Amanda reblogged an instagram post to her twitter to shout out the excellent customer service she and her mother received at a special Mother’s Day dessert and fireworks package.
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Amanda and her mom also started a hilarious and public war with Dunkin’ Donuts in Clermont wherein they claimed a pet in the store lunged and barked at her service dog and this was COMPLETELY AGAINST THE LAW and she could have LOST HER INDEPENDENCE if this 6 lb yorkie had gotten in a fight with her golden retriever.
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Despite the employees all laughing at her struggle, they decide to keep going to this Dunkin’ to get amanda’s blueberry crisp latte fix and this time the staff who they tried to get fired refuse to serve them, twice. Amanda’s mom claims they intentionally tried to harm Amanda by giving her dairy milk instead of almond milk in her coffee and no sugar. I'm sorry her mother is functionally illiterate but laugh at these text messages she posted publicly on facebook and that she thought she was doing something here.
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Dunkin' is not the only sugar bomb Amanda indulges in while claiming to be TPN dependent.
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Amanda also claimed on her sister’s FB that she needed a blood transfusion, right around when she was allegedly getting plasmapheresis for GBS.
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And thus we come to the climax of the Skinwalker saga, the embarrassing, hilarious stunt she may never top. In the aftermath of Jaquie’s death, I poked around some munchie accounts to see who said what about her and one was Amanda’s. I posted a few of Amanda’s posts on KF. A few people asked me for more info and I decided to share my love of Amanda Winig with the world. I started backing everything up in preparation to do my two-part love letter series to Amanda. It was the most extensive timeline I’d ever attempted at that point. I thought people were going to think I was SUPER weird and obsessive, which I am, but in a fun way right? And I really, unironically love amanda and I wanted everyone else to see why she was the best, so I wanted it to be perfect. I decided to post it on her birthday to give me plenty of time to work.

Unbeknownst to me, the whole time I was doing this something fucking hilarious was going on in the Amandaverse. A lot of this came to me secondhand again but I will provide evidence where I can. The story I got was that Amanda and Ashley and some of Ashley’s marathon runner buddies went to Disneyland together. They all shared a room together and from what I understand, Ashley picked up the tab for Amanda’s share of the room and tickets so she could go along because Amanda claimed she was on disability (although one of the leaks told me Ashley suspected Amanda was not actually on disability as she said things that made no sense to her as someone who did have to be on disability after her injury). Ashley’s racing buddies did not know Amanda from what I gathered. Here’s a pile of what was apparently mostly Amanda’s luggage. It makes sense when you think she has to fly with the usual clothes and toiletries, her TPN and medical supplies, supplies for Hickory, etc but there was another surprise.
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She gets to the hotel and in front of these girls she’s never met who were told she has GBS, muscular dystrophy, parkinsons, MCAS, POTS, EDS, gastroparesis, heart and kidney failure, and who knows what else, she hops out of her wheelchair like there’s nothing wrong. She then opens one of her suitcases to show that it is entirely full of junk food. Photo related.
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She spent the whole trip constantly talking about food, when they would eat, where, and what she was going to get when they went there. These marathon runners were totally shocked by how much food she was putting away at a meal and how obsessed she was with it. She bought an entire case of Mickey ice cream bars and ate it at one point. Then she lost her debit card and went into a full blown panic because she wouldn't be able to order more food, apparently only calming down when Ashely agreed to spot her while they were on vacation and settle when they got home. By this point her traveling companions heavily suspected she was bulimic. Here we see her with the ice cream bars and with a plate of pizza, roast meat, mashed potatoes, gravy and an entire bowl of ranch at one of the buffets. She also ate a very frosting-covered cupcake.
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They went to Black Tap, a milkshake bar in Downtown Disneyland, where Amanda got a milkshake with churros, cinnamon toast crunch, and other toppings piled on. She ate the whole thing then excused herself to the bathroom. Ashley followed shortly after and caught Amanda purging the meal by using syringes to suck it out of her G-tube into the toilet. She confronted her and Amanda lost her mind. She went back to the hotel and booked herself a second room telling the staff she needed to get away from her “abusers.” Typical cluster B tantrum shit. When she wanted to get away from Ashley she suddenly had the money to pay for her own room.
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The first set of text messages I got from this were Ashley confronting Amanda about her eating disorder while they were still in California, and I don’t have them anymore. This is from memory. But essentially it was her saying “dude, you were purging, I watched you do it” and Amanda saying she eats for pleasure and has to drain right after or else she’ll be violently ill and the only things she can keep down are small amounts of soups and mashed potatoes. Ashley sticks to her guns and says Amanda has an eating disorder and that is the reason her health is so bad. She brings up that Amanda’s weight has dropped down to as low as 75 lbs and that the reason she shakes constantly is because of this, not parkinson’s. Amanda has a histrionic poopy pants tantrum saying “what now you’re going to tell me I don’t need TPN? I don’t need my wheelchair?” and acting very guilty. Leak also said she caught Amanda claiming she has her diagnosis (presumably epidural lipomatosis).

They flew back to Florida and Amanda had a fucking meltdown about it on arrival. Josh sent a friend request to Ashley on facebook and they briefly spoke about what happened. Ashley tells him about the purging and that Amanda’s threatening to get a protection order out against her. josh says Amanda has told him that all her doctors know about all her illnesses but when he called Trevino’s offices they were unaware she was claiming all these other things. He also elaborates somewhat on her relationship with her mom, how Amanda’s always doing things to make mommy love her more and part of this was getting Josh locked up for eight months on drug charges by planting used needles in his room..
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So I totally believe Amanda was lying to her parents about everything and they just ate it up without requiring any evidence for their assorted reasons, mom because she liked being the proud mother of a sick kid and dad because he is completely insane – we’ll get to him eventually – and as long as Amanda was still doing the good christian girl LARP then anything else didn’t even register to him. I’ve also heard rumors that she was known to say she was going to appointments for plasmapheresis or something and then go binge at the Golden Corral buffet instead. No evidence, just hearsay from other mean girls who might have been making shit up. When troubled teen Josh started questioning things he became persona non grata. Josh was at the very least seeking attention in the worst ways and he had a string of traffic violations of varying severity in early 2019.
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in March 2019 his parents call the police to report that he’s stolen money, silver bars, and rifle magazines from them. The silver was found in his bedroom and the money he denied, claiming the cash he had on him was from selling drugs. What a legend. After that they reported him again for stealing an X-box. Are you truly a Florida Man if you don't have at least one shirtless mugshot?
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(Theft just kind of runs in their family, I guess. Here’s older sister jessica getting popped for ‘unlawful taking’ in 2008 jesus wept.)
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Now after Ashley contacted Josh on Facebook Amanda found out and grilled him about it and it became "the straw that broke the camel's back" according to her. She went to the police to report Ashley for stalking using Ashley’s posted photos and videos from their vacation as proof. This video clip – the one the luggage came from - is allegedly one of the ones she claimed was proof of stalking because she makes an irritated face at Ashley when she realizes she’s being filmed while eating. She also allegedly used my kiwifarms posts that I made right after Jaquie died. Leak claimed Amanda’s mom showed up in the court room with Sadie and a walker and that Amanda made herself look as sick and pitiful as possible, and that the judge threw the case out and told Amanda to grow up. In 2020 Ashley tried to get the record sealed but was denied.
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(here's the video in full. You can see Ashley's name in the top corner because the leak recorded it by pointing her phone at the screen)


The top part of this SS no longer applies – Ashley found out who was leaking to me anyway. I know it's basically incoherent but it'll make some sense soon.
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In July she also pressed DV charges against Josh. Like the stalking suit against Ashley, these are locked due to the nature of the charges, but it was thrown out.
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In September Josh was trying to get back on his feet and asking people to help pay some of his legal fees off so he could join the military and move on with life. No dice. He moved back to Nebraska, got a job, and has been doing fine. His social media presence is all about his girlfriend, dog, snowboarding, and cars. I don’t know I believe his story but I do know getting the fuck out of Florida, away from his parents and sister, and having to work it out on his own seems to have been the key to getting his shit together.
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In June, Amanda goes to disney wearing a jean jacket. It’s like, roughly 90 degrees and 85% humidity in Florida in june.
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July 20th, in the midst of all this, she hangs out with another former Jaquie friend, Alex Moine. Alex had been friends with Jaquie at the start of their faking careers and latches on to anyone who has recently made themselves a pariah in the florida munchiverse. She just materializes as soon as they burn all their bridges, I swear. A bunch of other girls I profiled are there too: Ariel/Carpe_that__diem who did weird porn-y shoots with Shelby, Rae/crippled.fox, whitney/tomoe to the rescue, and Megan/Helper Dog Nala. Amanda spends the whole party in the jean jacket and hides away from the pool while everyone else is swimming with the dogs or sweating in tank tops.
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Amanda has moved on. Ashley is no longer her bestie. Alex is.
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And it’s against this backdrop that I, totally fucking oblivious to all this chicanery going on, posted my love letters to her, a timeline of her entire life. This supposedly got people wondering just who the fuck I was and why I knew this much. Every single piece of information I had in the original posts was still online when I hit “post”, either on her facebook, her mom’s, IF, or LCF. I could have linked to it all. She only locked down her facebook after I posted.
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So now what? Her instagram is locked down like Ft. Knox. Her facebook is now privated too thanks to me. How do we track an angry skelly that doesn’t want to be tracked? I did get a few sneaky pics of her and her mom with the dogs in Disney from when the Skyliner opened in September 2019 but I left them in my DMs to mature long enough that the person who sent them to me would have plausible deniability and unfortunately, it was September 2019. I missed the memo that DMs would auto delete and they’re now gone forever.. But by this point I was told it was okay to discuss what I’d seen as long as I didn’t actually post what was sent to me, so I did.
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This new influx of embarrassing stories about the Disneyland trip, the lawlsuit, and the GBS inspired Amanda and Ashley to talk for the first time in six months. I should not have this but given how much they talk about me, it got sent to me. I don’t have the first one. It was a picture of her face showing she was much, much healthier looking and had put on weight. They discuss how Amanda accused Ashley of being me, how Amanda’s realized she really did have an eating disorder and how she’s learning to eat again, how she is now weight restored and voluntarily had her feeding tube removed recently. About how she’s basically sequestered herself in her home for the previous six months to work on herself and it was unfair that despite this people are digging up old screenshots and reviving old drama (sup Kellen!) We learn that the reason Amanda decided to file the lawsuit was because of what Ashley said when Josh contacted her. And we learned that part of the reason the judge threw it out was because Amanda said she was scared Ashley would break into her house and hurt her and all Ashley had to say was that there were stairs. Ashley legitimately could not have gotten to Amanda. This is the conversation that was being referred to by the leak in the above conversation. It's missing pieces because the leak cut out parts that were not relevant to me.
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Honestly, I didn’t believe it. I thought she sent an old photo from when she was losing weight. But in December she was at a Christmas event for NHSD and would you look at that, she’s really done it. Still in the wheelchair but no longer looking like she’s about to keel over.
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And other photos from early 2020 confirm she looks healthy and people notice. Terrence in the comments is her brother-in-law.
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A few weeks later she's fundraising for NHSD.
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And then nothing for a long time. The only new info I had was that in 2020-21 her mom was still using Sadie as a service dog.
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And Amanda was maintaining her weight.
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She also has friends who aren't munchies now and a new wheelchair that's people sized, but also that that's not the kitchen in her parents' house.
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We know what her parents' kitchen looks like.
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And so we shall laugh and laugh at the next piece of information I can share. In October 2020 she moved to a 1b1ba apartment in Clermont, the same city her parents live in, for $1300 a month and there's our mystery kitchen.
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We know this because she got evicted from it and it's all public. God I love you Florida, never change. She lived alone with Hickory and claimed to be wheelchair dependent, immune impaired, and suffering a brain injury that causes seizures. She had to take off of work for potential covid and was unable to cover the rent so she applied for emergency rent assistance, which she was approved for. After serving her with papers the landlord has the audacity to lock her out of the maintenance portal which she needs because paramedics busted down the door when she had a seizure. Also there’s blood on her wall and someone else needs to clean that up. She has retained a lawyer because they’re not being reasonably accommodating to her and this is totally their fault for not letting her install a keypad so EMS could open the door. She didn’t file for emergency rent assistance until three days after being served with a notice to pay or vacate and I can’t help but feel like the seizure and the door getting broken was retaliation after they said no to the keypad. She lost and was officially evicted on the 15th of November.
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If you’re wondering about the brain injury congratulations, so am I. The only thing I found was this undated review of OrlandoHealth Dr. Philips Hospital. The PFP is one of her and Hickory from about this era but Idk if it’s like her google account or something. She’s apparently taken by ambu to the ER after falling down a flight of stairs, has a bad time, is admitted, gets a shitload of testing, and discharges herself only to be told she has a brain hemorrhage. She goes to another hospital for an MRI and it turns out she does not have a brain hemorrhage. I don’t even know, man.
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By November 2021 she was living in a new place and looking pretty healthy.
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I don’t know who this butch chick she’s hanging out with is but I want the Hickory Has Two Mommies saga to be true so bad I can feel it.
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Unfortunately Hickory died in Spring 2022. He went very fast after a bad diagnosis that sounds like cancer. Said it a dozen times, dogs rally until they can’t and by the time you catch the cancer it’s often too late to do a thing about it. Amanda's sister reacted to the posts, but her parents are conspicuously absent.
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And through this we get one of the best glimpses into Amanda’s life that we’ve had in years. She goes on a cruise to scatter Hickory’s ashes and she looks good. Healthy. No wheelchair, not a single tube.
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She eats, she drinks, she has a good time.
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A few weeks after that, she heads up to Nebraska and spends time with her siblings. Looks like they’ve buried the hatchet. And then she stopped updating facebook publicly again.
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And so shall we again laugh and laugh when the next place we find Amanda is another eviction. By April 2022 Amanda owed $4339.91 in back rent and was served another notice to pay or vacate. She did neither. In May they attempted to serve her a summons and she failed to respond twice. The eviction went to default judgement and she was ordered to leave the property by May 27, 2022.
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And it looks like in Sept 2022 she started a new job.
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Finally in june updates to tell us all about what a nightmare of a program New Horizons is. We learn that all those cute lil’ puppies she had in her apartment were NHSD puppies she was help raising. We learn that Hickory collapsed at Universal and was given a diagnosis of hemangiosarcoma, a very aggressive canine cancer that is notorious for having no symptoms until it’s too late. Labs and Goldens are particularly prone to it. Most of the time it’s diagnosed the same way Hickory’s was: the dog collapses and the owner gets it to the vet only to find there’s a massive tumor that could make them bleed out internally in seconds if it ruptures (if it hasn’t already). Hickory lived another four days before he died in Amanda’s apartment. Amanda says New Horizons was uncaring about the death of her dog, no one had prepared her for the reality that service dogs die (are you five??) and didn’t care about her “declining mental health” but only the status of a puppy she was raising for them. Yeah dude, they wanted to make sure you were mentally well enough to keep doing your duty and wouldn’t neglect or fuck up their puppy. They told her ‘cancer happens’ because it fucking does. They didn’t care about her panic attacks and PTSD from the dog dying or that she became depressed and suicidal. Amanda lets us know she was her typical needy self who found raising puppies with her “disabilities” and a full time job to be just too much work – whodafuckin thunk right? - and eventually had to give her current puppy raising charge to someone else who had time. She claims that during her puppy raising days she got dogs with fleas and ticks, prison pups with ear and skin infections which she had to pay to treat and that vaccines were given illegally. We also learn Sadie had to retire because she had hip dysplasia which tracks with Eagle Ridge’s breeding but okay then why did your mom continue to use her as a mobility dog??? Remember that her mom claims she needs Sadie for work-related back ouchies.
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But the real reason for Amanda’s wall of shame is she applied for a new dog through them and they rejected her just because she’s no longer the 70lb, shaking, wheelchair bound, TPN dependent skelly they had given Hickory to. But she only LOOKS healthy. They called her mommy and asked about her health and financial situation because yanno, they wanna make sure she’s both in need of a service dog and competent to keep a dog alive? And informed her that like any other SD program if they felt their dog was in danger they would take him back. Someone else who isn’t an insane munchie got a new dog right away! It’s not fair! They told her to consider puppy raising instead, lmao. The comments are just the guy who had Hickory at the end of his training saying he was a very good dog although he does mention seeing some other call out posts about NHSD in the past few weeks. I dunno, just comes off like they told her no and then when a dogpile started about their program she joined in because she was angry.
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She did puppy raise. Here's collages of some of them. It’s also really interesting to me that she claims that she couldn’t go back to her apartment after Hickory died there. We can tell from the posts that he died in early March and she had already gotten $4300 behind in rent by April, so like… lol. And while needing to pay this off, she went on one of the more expensive Caribbean Carnival Cruise routes and then visited family in Nebraska so just, no attempt whatsoever to settle that debt before it got that bad. Nothing has changed, it’s still everyone else’s fault when things don’t go right for her.
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I tried to look into this wave of call outs but I couldn’t find the posts she was talking about. The links aren’t that interesting. One’s an old Change.org petition that’s almost a decade old. It’s been inactive since before Amanda started faking sick. So yanno, entirely possible they had a few issues that have been resolved, equally possible the issues are still bad. The other is a year-old reddit post with people both agreeing and disagreeing with OP on the standards of this program and especially their breeding program. I will say that Rachel Denton, who previously raised puppies with them and got Mozart from them, has recently started raising Mozart’s successor with an org called Topaz. She didn’t post anything negative about them publicly, just that she had to carefully consider many things before deciding Topaz was a better fit.
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Rachel did leave her job as a puppy raiser in 2021 according to her facebook. At the time I thought it was just because she got realistic about her ability to train dogs post-stroke but she’s owner-training the new one so who knows?
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A year later she was still promoting them and her aunt is still obsessed with training NHSDs. Her aunt is probably most of the reason I couldn't find the critical posts they're discussing. She floods any NHSD hashtag often posting several photos to it per day and effectively drowning out any discussion with puppy pics.
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So where is Amanda now? Well, probably not at home. I said her dad is insane, right? I mean like, bugfuck, reptilians in the white house, Revelations is happening, one step above screaming on a streetcorner for you to repent insane. They don’t follow each other on social media (her mom's friends list is private so I can't check hers), and Amanda has really distanced herself from her ultra-religious upbringing from what I can tell. But I can’t find a new address and the typical dox sites refer me back to the Clermont and Altamonte Springs addresses so maybe she did boomerang back home. She specifies the parent NHSD talked to is not her caretaker or guardian and it sounded like they were asking financial questions that wouldn’t affect her because they weren’t going to be paying for or involved in the dog’s care. It would also make sense why she’s no longer getting the extensive treatment she used to be: she can’t afford the concierge fees or to spend all day playing sick princess if she needs to work.
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Her dad almost died a year ago. In the aftermath he looked to be having a bit of a realization about how he had been treating the people he loves. Amanda did not react to this post Josh made about it.
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She did react to this one Josh made about his friend (?) being in ICU. But I guess we can’t read too into it. By her own admission she takes mental health breaks from social media these days so she might have just put the phone down when dad got sick. Just as a little side story i've been watching the family members she's still talking to shut down their social media in real time after I started posting about her again. I'm not sure how I feel about chasing this woman's entire family off the internet. Fine I guess.
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The last thing I can share is her Etsy likes. I know, grasping straws but I really wanted to make sure all my bases were covered since she’ll probably not post again for like, two years or some shit. It’s mostly what you’d expect, service dog gear, disney shit, and chintzy home décor.
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So I don’t know if Etsy likes are chronological but some of this can’t be that old. She likes a lot of pet cremation jewelry.
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And this sticker at the top is Bonaire, which is one of the islands she went to and fell in love with when she went on Hickory's memorial cruise. Lots of stuff about her friends being her real family, whatever.
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And tons of the banal semicolon, you are enough mental health shlock social media addicted individuals think is deep which also dates this to post-Hickory, as that's when she said her mental health went off the deep end.
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And in newer pages, Tay Swift Eras tour merch. Eras tour started in March of 2023 and will continue until November of 2024.
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So we can assume this is chronological and therefore laugh at the fact that of the more recent things she's liked are a hand-carved cane and bedazzled hearing aid covers, lmao. I guess a zebra can’t change its stripes.
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...wait.
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IT'S HAPPENING!!!! HICKORY HAS TWO MOMMIES. AMANDA. AMANDA. AMANDA. MY WHOLE LIFE HAS BUILT UP TO THIS FOR SIX YEARS, MY QUEEN, AMANDA THE TRUE LOVE OF MY LIFE, PLEASE LET ME BE YOUR SUGAR MOMMA. I LOVE DOGS. I HAVE GOOD CREDIT. I FIND YOUR TANTRUMS ADORABLE. AMANDA. YOU CAN’T DENY THIS IS FATE.
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Ahhh its wonderful. If those are not just another straight girl trying to larp for oppression points, then perhaps Amanda finally left the nest because she is a homosexual. The fact that she’s no longer with her mom all the time and has no one really enabling her anymore means she literally can’t afford to fake sick like she used to so NHSD said she’s healthy. This whole time since Hickory died I thought she had a genuine come-to-jesus about the lying but nope. Even better. My future wife has truly come to accept our destiny. Amanda, this is meant to be. I will buy you a bouquet of goldens! They can pull your wheelchair down the aisle at our wedding like a matrimonial Iditarod!
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There we go. The homage my queen truly deserves. I still don't know why I like her so much but I hope you do too. Was this necessary? No. Did it waste a whole lot of my time and dredge up some bad feelings regarding things i regret doing in the past? Sure did. Did I enjoy it? YES.
 
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Amazing, just so beautiful with a plot twist at the end.
I don’t know much about ED sufferers, but I think it’s easier to justify your illness with fake sickness, rather than accept the truth that your reality is shit and your brain is playing tricks on you. It’s easier to externalise the cause of your illness (“I have X, Y and Z disease!”) rather than to face the hard truth that you had some sort of trauma that’s warping your worldview, and your food issues might stem from that.
Glad to see Amanda’s doing better, I hope she has a fulfilling life in the arms of a lesbian lover.
 
I wonder if Amanda was ever truly in the grips of an ED or if purging/starving became just another aspect of the munch?
Regardless, at a certain weight there is a line at which the boundaries between "actual disorder of the mental type" and "forcing it so hard you give yourself a heart attack" overlap and I'm not denying that she clearly went full deadly-skelly in the way that even those with actual disorders might fail to reach, but I am simply questioning the validity of the ED as a primary motivator or even a disorder at all.

She does not seem to balk at food now, and obviously never did before the precipitous weight loss. Unlike most of our other gorls for whom the munch is a way to hide the ED and continue to engage with it, Amanda (in true skinwalker fashion) strikes me as someone who saw the ED as another accessory or a way to fake it till you make it. It's much easier to force yourself to throw up than it is to legitimately starve, and having compulsions to purge often comes with fixations on certain foods/combos thereof because of their ease of regurgitation. She exhibits none of these behaviors even though she does have her fucked up teeth, an obsession with weightloss, and a fixation on those old wanarexic memes of yore. She would have been entering the internet for the first time during the heyday of MPA and its subsidiaries.

Is she the only "butterfly" to ever successfully lose weight? Is she a proper anorexic-b/p?

I'm just curious about people's thoughts.


That being said, thank you KFS for your excellent recap!
 
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