Greta Gustava Martela / Kjel Anderson & Nina Chaubal / Niraj Chaubal - Stole $350k+ from Trans Lifeline, kill count of 2+ from negligence, Founders of Sisterwood/La Zorra.

This is why their data collection sucks. Elderly people in marginalised groups are not well serviced and if they collected better data they could easily attract funding for a pilot programme to assess the specific problems ageing tran.s people encounter in accessing services, which would then likely turn into an outreach programme (yes, general outreach programmes for the elderly exist but they're generally stretched to breaking point).

That's too mundane for them, though, and doesn't fit with their vision of being "heroes" who rescue tran.s people from death. Hell, do their volunteers want to help tran.speople in general or are they, too, caught up in the "hero" culture?
That's a really good point. I haven't seen anything geared towards older trans people in specific despite the fact that that population is probably in need of specialized services. That could be a great project for them alongside the hotline, that is if they actually gave a fuck about anything other than pocketing the money to spend on themselves.

That level 5 tho, :heart-empty: . I really hope that person didn't do it and ideally went to the ER. Shit didn't sound good though. That case is exactly why calling 911 is sometimes needed. From personal experience it seems like it's usually an ambulance and a fire truck who respond to suicidal people, not the police, so fear of police is basically a non-issue.
 
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The mainstream social media scene still sees Wu as a legitimate victim though despite what we've uncovered and released. Same thing with Rapp. While I'm not interested in being any kind of whistleblower, it's a sad reality no matter what we find out about TLL history will never remember us as the good guys.

Eh, not as much as you might think. Most normal people still don't give a fuck who these idiots are or have never heard of them, anyone important they might be able to influence thinks they are shit, and their reputations are so tainted at this point neither will ever be able to hold down a steady job again because of all the negative shit that has stuck.

Also, this isn't 2014 anymore, where these idiots were believed unequivocally and the media was completely complicit. The scales have fallen from a ton of eyes, and the media itself is held in little regard by a huge chunk of the public these days.
 
The mainstream social media scene still sees Wu as a legitimate victim though despite what we've uncovered and released. Same thing with Rapp. While I'm not interested in being any kind of whistleblower, it's a sad reality no matter what we find out about TLL history will never remember us as the good guys.

If there are people from the SU fandom testifying that were the good guys...


Actually I'm not sure if that's good or bad tbh
 
it's a sad reality no matter what we find out about TLL history will never remember us as the good guys.

That maybe true however rember that history needs it's janitors, we are the guy's running around checking fact's making sure that there is at least a accurate record of what's happened so that it can be dissected later on and hopefully the event can be taken in context.
 
Eh, not as much as you might think. Most normal people still don't give a fuck who these idiots are or have never heard of them, anyone important they might be able to influence thinks they are shit, and their reputations are so tainted at this point neither will ever be able to hold down a steady job again because of all the negative shit that has stuck.

It always amazes me when people who are (often) alt-right in view actually think the most insane left-wing views are actually "mainstream" even though the vast majority of living humans including leftists are shocked and appalled at them.

Seriously, chill the fuck out. Most people are not completely insane even if it looks that way sometimes.
 
Who cares if we're seen as good or bad guys? I thought this was a forum for laughing at weirdos, not some equally autistic crusade.
That's why after we save the trannys and everyone's talking about how great we are, we're going to turn around and dox and cyberbowl them into suicide.
 
Who cares if we're seen as good or bad guys? I thought this was a forum for laughing at weirdos, not some equally autistic crusade.

I just want to watch the world burn. And for Greta's little scam to come crumbling down around him, because if he's crazy enough to show up at Null's house with a knife for having a thread on Buffalo Bill and Phil, what kind of milk will we have when it actually affects him directly?
 
Kiwis taking the moral high road over tranny suicide are going to be viewed by outsiders the same way GobblerGrate was when they rallied around "ethics in vidya journalism".

Fucking TLL up needs to happen, but no one is going to call us heroes for doing it.

Thing is, we're here to laugh at people like Greta. We're not heroes. Even remotely.

But then, who the hell says you have to be a hero to just do the right thing?


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It always amazes me when people who are (often) alt-right in view actually think the most insane left-wing views are actually "mainstream" even though the vast majority of living humans including leftists are shocked and appalled at them.

That's because media of all kinds are infested with some of the most insane leftists, which boosts their signal way, way beyond their numbers.
 
I wonder how many other charities have fallen down the asspat hole. I helped with a small charity in the early 2000's. The woman who started it had some attitude issues, but was passionately involved with the charity, and having to deal with people face to face forced her to keep the crazy contained in order to grow the charity. Everything was going fine, the charity was helping more and more, growing slowly but steadily...

And then the leader got on facebook. Suddenly people who never had to deal with her were telling her how perfect and saintly she was for starting said charity. She started spending more time wallowing in asspats than actually tending to the charity's goals. Since asspatters were telling her she was wonderful she stopped holding back her crazy when dealing with the real world. After all, if people rejected her now it was because they were badwrong, not because she acted like a bitch. Pretty much all the volunteers including myself dropped out. She keeps getting the occasional real life sucker in, but they rarely last more than three months, where the previous volunteers had multiple years experience.


TL;DR- Social media is a cancer that encourages people to act like dicks.
 
Kiwis taking the moral high road over tranny suicide are going to be viewed by outsiders the same way GobblerGrate was when they rallied around "ethics in vidya journalism".

Fucking TLL up needs to happen, but no one is going to call us heroes for doing it.

Trans Life Line sent us to hell, but we're going even deeper. Take back all that was lost.

@Null...

I'm already a Kiwi.
 
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