The Ethics of Sex with Trans-Identified Females - or Why Porking Pooners is Potentially Problematic

[Metatron]

To the degenerates who voted that they would fuck a pooner, I want you to imagine fucking the current year version of pixyteri.

Report back with your conclusions.

 

[Nopenopenope]

Sounds pretty fucking gay for everyone involved tbh.

 

[Yamamura]

I wonder whats wrong with a man that he has to do this

It stems from the problem with prioritizing getting laid above everything else. The idea of having sex for the sake of it. I'm not extremely religious, but I am starting to understand why sexuality was largely confined to the purpose of procreation for a while and nothing else. Turning sex into a novelty has had devastating consequences for society as a whole and lead to the development of many weird paraphillas.

I wonder if making a grindr account specifically to pork special ed girls is a gateway drug to becoming gay, like how lesbian porn and anime leads to trooning.

Whoever engages in this nonsense gets what they get. There is no real way to justify signing up for a grindr account in the first place. On some level they're no better than the rest of the degenerates on that app.

a lot of pooners end up realizing that they are just confused tomboys once they get into a stable relationship with a dude who treats them well, and they quite quickly grow out of their retarded phase. If you meet a pooner, get along with her, and end up hooking up/getting a relationship out of it? Sure, whatever. That's fine, I guess.

This type of scenario working out in practice and turning into a long lasting stable relationship seems rather unlikely though imo. I mean on paper it sounds alright, but at the end of the day the guy doing it is still pretending to be gay and the whole thing is just built on false pretenses.

The only way I could see this working is a gay or bi guy becoming the male equivalent of a manic pixie dream boy to help the pooner come to a life changing revelation and the former pooner moving on leaving the gay guy because "I realized I'm not a guy or gay". However to be fair enough a lot of homely women are the MPDG of guys so having a dude doing it would just be returning the favor.

 

[Android raptor]

Love all the gross dudes coming out and telling on themselves over this subject

 

[potatoman]

This is the most retarded thread I've seen in a while.

If a chick is on the app there's something wrong with them.

 

[Mr Processor]

After the rapid devolution of the Pooners of Grindr thread into @JimiHendrix's, @Beast From 20000 Faggums', and others' regaling of how easy pooner pussy is to acquire, a thread specifically for the topic was requested (et, voilà).

What are the moral implications of sticking your dick in crazy having sex with a woman who claims she is a man? Is it wrong to affirm her delusions for an easy lay? Is it gay? Is it more degenerate than homosex? And a thousand other questions which arise from the topic of dicking down doods.

As a homosexual I have no right to discuss the ethical or degenerate qualities of pooner sex, I just wish they'd piss off from Grindr.

It's a terrible idea that won't end well. After they detransition and get some help, maybe it would be acceptable to date them if you are up for someone who probably has some emotional problems. While they're in the throes of their self-harm fetish though, I wouldn't want to get involved unless I was a trained psychiatrist and they were a patient (and even then when I say involved I don't mean dating).

 

[Kyle Odom]

If you do this, there is part of your psyche that is gay. You are placating gay shit. It's incredibly easy to fuck normal BPD whores. There are some women who have been infected with LGBTQQIAP+ nonense that have been convinced of absurd shit, and if you know them personally it's morally fine to help them realize it's dumb and fuck them in the process if you want to. But if a girl is claiming to be a man at the first point of contact, you are gay. Simple as.
Dating apps are also not healthy. I used Tinder in 2014 when it didn't have ad's or whatever boosting it has now and it was a great way to be a degenerate coomer but even at my lowest I never considered being friendly with these women let alone dating them. Any woman using a dating app is knowingly there to be a whore and you should treat them as such. Any other rules of engagement will ruin your life or at best hurt your feelings.

If you want to fuck man pussy go ahead, but I'm going to call you a faggot.

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Edit: This argument is the same as pedophiles saying "BUT BRO THIS 12 YEAR OLD LOOKS LIKE SHE'S 20". So just fuck a 20 year old? If you are attracted to a pooners tits, child bearing hips, feminine features etc just fuck a woman who doesn't say she's a man. "BRO BRO BRO you don't get it I don't actually want to fuck animals just people dressed like animals". Sick faggots all of you stop watching so much porn.

 

[AMHOLIO]

The problem is partially men and women have different attitutdes towards sex.

Men: oh, she's willing? Sweet, sex with something not my hand or toy tonight.

It's not inherently bad, saying this about someone who wants to casually pick up women who also want casual hookups at the bar is completely fine. The problem is it's very simplified with no long term thinking: we have talked about sticking your dick in crazy before and we will continue to mention, then wait for you to tell us how the non-T transman is ruining your life and contacts and whatever.

This is where the women factor comes in: women sees long term impact of casual sex. For men, it's usually not much aside from "Penis satisfied", for women it's always thinking ahead: will she or the guy she had sex with get an STD? Will the girl get pregnant? Insecure women usually have a harder time dettaching themselves from sex than normal women, will she be ok? When she stops pooning will she hate men more when she got dick on grindr and realized she was used? Will the man realize what damage he's caused if he does, and will she realize she's also responsible? Why does the man feel the need to lower himself so much to have sex with someone he knows is trouble? What does that say about his self esteem?

As you can guess, women are programmed to think long term because they carry the long term consequences (baby) of sex. They see both parties as human, as do the men, but the men do so in a different way. Casual sex is a transaction. My penes horny, u vagne horni? Ok we make love rub bobs etc.. It's a deal between two people, both getting what they want if consented. Men eat the loss of a disappointing night better, women in the long term might ruminate on it, especially if the pooner


The other is that women don't get men having sex with anything that moves and says yes. "Her body had sex with many men, will not keep as long term partner" is a thought men go through when encountering someone who's been slutty. However, WOMEN THINK THE SAME THING: "He is a slut, I do not want to get into a long term relationship OR casually fuck him," is up. Women see your value go down since they're taught to look at their bodies and know that slutting is shameful, AND THEY EXPECT THE MEN TO GET THAT TOO SINCE A MALE SLUT IS A MALE SLUT. Men with higher body counts don't suffer the same cultural stigma as women do and aren't aware women apply the same standards to them. I always think about how some men go "eww homos have such high body counts and low standards and are degenerates" and I chuckle and hope you apply that to straight men because if not, .

Yes, these are all generalizations, but these are also repeated sentiments throughout the thread. This is the communication gap. Women are thinking "Why are you slutting around and putting your dick in anything - don't you value your body? Yourself? (and possibly) The worth of another person?" While men who are ok with pooner poon are thinking "We made a trade, we were hopefully both satisfied (if not I or her will eat the loss, there's more fish in the sea), I go home? All I did was meet her standards by a white lie and I don't see her again, she keeps her fantasy and I got sex. We both got what we wanted? It's her fault if she goes back later." I think the last sentence is the one I personally have beef over: it takes two to have sex, you could consider "You know, in the long term this is bad and I'm enabling a bad situation by doing it" and realize you have some slight responsibility on that end. If you say "I know it's bad but I'm doing it anyway" that's holding yourself accountable and knowing others will think less of you and that's fine. It's up to the other person to decide to shun, bully, joke, or not care.

The white lie part can be explained thusly: if a female estreamer goes online and says "Give me male attention", many men will say no. If a female estreamer goes online and says "I want trad values, we must protect the white race, arrest niggers and chase out the powerful jews " while dressing sluttily and still holding that patreon wallet open, some men who said no before go "YASSSS QUEEN" and then the other men will look at them and go "She's lying to you, dumbass."

Replace that with pooners and men. The man who sleeps with pooners is the ewhore pretending to be based just to get attention from the opposite sex. The difference is in what's being transacted. The women thought the money was a fair trade for playing into those men's fantasy, and men who have sex with Females pretending to be males think the sex is fair trade for playing into their fantasies. It's the same opportunistic grossness but with different items taken.

TL; DR: Women think men sluts with less value when have sex with many women, worse if a white lie is said. Shameless slut, sad, many such manwhores. Edit: Men who participate see it as a short term transaction, men who don't see it as a bad idea and playing with fire.


My amthoughts? Lying is bad, just say it's bad and you're doing it anyways and understand others will judge you for it. Take responsibilty for that. Otherwise, keep it consensual and wear a condom and you're fine. Some women will be miserable once they realize they've been lied to, but honestly? Some won't and will eat the loss or go "yeah I fucked up and understand why it happened, but the sex was ok at least."

Also, don't powerlevel about your sex life, mark.

 

[Duke Nukem]

What the hell did I just walk into? The ethics of fucking women who think they're men?

You're all just a bunch of degenerate coomers.

 

[Ken Barlow]

and because of null I'm getting my ass torn across 2 threads instead of just 1. cant believe "I don't mind having sex with mentally weird women" is the cross I'm going to die on.

but I do it for my country and my people.

You are getting your ass torn because:

You volunteered the information. No one asked you. You willingly offered empirical evidence of how you exploit vulnerable women thinking we would all be "LE EPIC SHAGGER" You are a fucking creep.

You done all this: ON FUCKING KIWI FARMS.

Lol. Imao even.

 

[JamusActimus]

Love all the gross dudes coming out and telling on themselves over this subject

Guys, left or right?

 

[Akashic Retard]

Love all the gross dudes coming out and telling on themselves over this subject

How many times are you going to say gross dudes be creative

 

[Catch The Rainbow]

Casual sex/hookup culture is gross and this is doubly so. Getting a prostitute is more honest and less disgusting.

 

[DiggieSmalls]

You are getting your ass torn because:

You volunteered the information. No one asked you. You willingly offered empirical evidence of how you exploit vulnerable women thinking we would all be "LE EPIC SHAGGER" You are a fucking creep.

You done all this: ON FUCKING KIWI FARMS.

Lol. Imao even.

I think hes epic

 

[Rotollo 2]

Guys, left or right?
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right

 

[Hack for crack]

A woman who wants to be a man. A woman who likes having facial hair, a woman who doesn’t have dem titties.

You might not be a fag, you just are pathetic if you hit that

Yes you are a faggot if you even attempt to hit it. You sound like a closeted fag for thinking otherwise

 

[Ghostse]

I don't see anything ethically wrong with banging pooners on grindr.
I see something ethically wrong with pooners being on grindr, like there is with AGPs on MuffDivr or w/e the lesbian app is.
But pooner is looking for a guy, you are a guy. Pooner want to get laid, so do you.

However... I don't see anything ethnically wrong about licking the door knobs at the homeless shelter or raiding the dump for used diapers to eat the contents of. These are not things I would do and would judge the people doing them. I can't see why, other than sheer desperation or your girl not letting you stick it in her pooper, you'd bang a pooner. Let alone wade through all the literal faggots in search of tiny ammount of pooner golddust.
I mean just go find a slamwhale at closing time if you need to get laid that badly.

 

[Go Lift Some Bitches]

I believe everyone involved in Grindr Pooning should die

Step 0 : Loose weight.

To get weebs and TT-fags a woman won't even need to do that first step.
What they'd need to learn is to ask the guy first since they'll never make the first move

 

[SNU]

It is ethical. They are trying to bang gay dudes who don't like women. You are trying to bang them by pretending to be gay. Completely ethical.

That being said, you're still a creepy weirdo if you do it. Seems like only a desperate loser would do it. People can justifiably make fun of you for it.

 

[JimiHendrix]

You are getting your ass torn because:

You volunteered the information. No one asked you. You willingly offered empirical evidence of how you exploit vulnerable women thinking we would all be "LE EPIC SHAGGER" You are a fucking creep.

You done all this: ON FUCKING KIWI FARMS.

Lol. Imao even.

I remember your username now. you're the retard who got chased out of the DSP Subforum for sperging too hard.

https://kiwifarms.st/threads/designated-whiner-shitting-street.37975/post-9104953

pretty fuckin' funny.

but as for your post "thinking we'd be all LE EPIC SHAGGER" yeah, I really need approval on my sex life from Kiwifarms users, ya got me.