The Ethics of Sex with Trans-Identified Females - or Why Porking Pooners is Potentially Problematic

Is it ethical?

  • Yes, they want to be heckin' validated and treated like gay men. This is mutually beneficial.

    Votes: 401 30.0%
  • No, deceit is wrong.

    Votes: 643 48.1%
  • All ethics are spooks. All that matters is penis feels good.

    Votes: 294 22.0%

  • Total voters
    1,338
Not only is it ethical to sleep with an FtM, I'd argue it's unethical NOT to.

Kind of like with most lesbians, FtMs aren't real. They're just confused women.

So by unabashedly laying pipe, you're potentially saving them from the road to transexuality by helping them realize and become comfortable with their gender role.
If this is a pre-op FtM and you don't assertively dick them down, they could continue down the road and wind up taking hormones, getting surgery, generally destroying themselves and never reaching any type of satisfaction.

Then years down the line you might see them all mangled and think to yourself "If only I'd stopped being selfish and fucked that poor girl maybe this wouldn't have happened". You know, you did this. You and your penile selfishness.

My point is if you see some chick who's doing weird gender stuff, it's your duty as an empathetic man with principle to pork her straight.

I can't imagine wanting to fuck a pooner, a human female on testosterone. The pseudo-phallus that looks like it belongs on a spotted hyena alone is enough to make me want to vomit and I'm bi, so exploring the wrong sex hormone'd up body, all hairy and disfigured, of a mentally ill is beyond my simple brain function.
Well yeah if they have the faux-dick and everything then that's gross enough that you're excused. But if they're still fit and pre-op you're really obligated to tbh.
 
Why can't you fucks just pick up a chick at a local coffee place or bar, why demean yourself like this? It's not too hard to find a pleasant looking chick without bpd, just stop looking online. Online dating is niggerlicious as hell. (Sorry if you live in a city and/or California/UK, you're fucked)

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Trannies are weird as fuck because many of them troon out just so they can date the same sex when they could have just been fags to begin with. Like why mutilate yourself just to be gay? Oh that's right, because being gay isn't "special" anymore because rainbow shit got shoved into society for the last 3 decades. So how do out special the gays? Oh, that's right, mix gayness with retardation and self mutilate so you can perpetually feel like a martyr and pretend people are grimacing at your pain and not because you stink like a corpse.
 
Aren't like half of all women mentally ill these days (if not more)?
I really doubt the men saying fucking trannies is exploitive think fucking women with bpd is exploitive.
And in any case 9 times out of 10 these women do this shit to themselves so who cares. They're stronk empowered T-Men, respect their autonomy.

Edit: I think people are downplaying how this social contagion has caused most tomboys to Troon out so now if a man is seeking a tomboy he probably has to seek a Troon. Not smart but men want what they want.
Also I'm starting to think a lot of the women who hate pooners who don't do hrt or surgery (or pretend that there aren't pooners that don't do these things) are jealous. Jealous of what idk, maybe the tomboy memes or something. But it feels Woman Moment-y to me.
 
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And I wish you cunts fucked off Grindr and stopped shitting all over the place.

The LGBT community is degenerate enough on its own without straights bringing on their own degeneracy.

On the other hand, the idea of gay dating apps entirely filled up of pooners and troons and the straight sickos that chase them at the expense of actual gay and lesbian people, and the hilarious cases of these straight men actually being homophobic when an actual man that looks like a man hits on them serves them all well for their hypocrisy as they have not only tolerated but nurtured the kind of environment for all this shit to develop.

It would be actually hilarious if the LGBs were actually forced to mature as a community and started rethinking what the landscape looks like when you're gay, lesbian or bisexual because for any given LGB that says "This is madness" there will be five to screech about trans rights and woke nonsense.

Imagine gays going back to cottaging and seedy backwoods action and lesbians going back to their football locker rooms, P.E. Departments and their feminist circlejerks all in shame and disgrace just because fucking transvestites.

HONK HONK
 
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To all the people ITT who say that it would be gay to engage in this, why the fuck would it be gay to have sex with a woman? Like fucking seriously, why?
Maybe you'd say "durr it's because you are pretending to be gay" nigger it's the equivalent of a LARP. Fucking a chick pretending to be a guy does not make me a faggot the same way me fucking my wife while she's wearing a schoolgirl uniform does not make me a fucking pedophile. Sure, one of us might be more into the LARP than the other, but the point stands. Of course if she's obviously on T and all that shit then it's really fucking weird that you are into that shit but it's objectively not gay.
According to the other thread there are some pooners that are "tops" aka they want to fuck you in the ass with a silicone dildo/arm-flesh sausage/enlarged t-clit. Is that gay or no? Would you go to town on one of their hairy thumb-sized clits?
 
not gay, not unethical, just pathetic.

a man taking estrogen and wearing a dress isnt a woman. a woman taking testosterone and wearing a flannel isnt a man.

as far as the ethics;
“no person having a mental illness or cognitive impairment so as to be incapable of understanding the proceedings or making a defense shall be tried, sentenced, or punished for any crime”
imho this is the same argument for someone being too mentally unwell to consent to sex. yes they have a mental illness but that doesnt mean they cant consent.

as far as “lying” to them…. literally the ONLY person they can have sex with is someone attracted to women. the “sexuality is a spectrum” bs would be a golden rule in their mind so you wouldnt even have to lie to them.
the question doesnt specify whether theyre being lied to.

all that being said, its still pathetic.
 
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