The Linux Thread - The Autist's OS of Choice

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Betonhaus said:
It's just really annoying that there's yet another DE because when someone comes to me asking what is the best Distro they would try to get into Linux I honestly don't fucking know
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This somewhat-overblown dilemma is kinda why I recommended LMDE instead of just mainline Linux Mint for someone in this thread a bit ago, because they lock you into Cinnamon (their official DE) and no other DE has official Linux Mint support on Debian, that's why they don't include MATE or XFCE in that edition. For better or for worse, that might just be the best compromise for many new users.

Really, just point to a distribution with the closest analogue to Windows 7, which is literally the sole purpose of Cinnamon.

EDIT: Generally, don't think in terms of best desktop environment, all of it is too opinionated to narrow it down in any important way.
 
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Betonhaus said:
It's just really annoying that there's yet another DE because when someone comes to me asking what is the best Distro they would try to get into Linux I honestly don't fucking know
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There is no best. For most it doesn't even matter which DE is 'Standard' as whatever you prefer is usually just an apt/dnf/pacman/zypper/etc away.
 
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I've been looking to dual boot on 2 m.2 ssds and because I'm retarded I'm trying to figure out if I can run a boot menu on 2 different drives. I'm currently using GRUB to dual boot windows and pop os on one 2tb drive. I recently got and installed a 4tb m.2 ssd and I want to install arch on it and then use the 2tb drive for windows only (I'm addicted to flight sim, and windows is still easier to use MSFS with). I know that you can dual boot on 1 drive, as I've done it before; but I'm a bit confused on if it can be done as relatively easy with 2 different drives. If there is no decent way to do it, I don't mind manually changing the boot order in the BIOS, granted I would greatly prefer a boot menu.
 
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I've been looking to dual boot on 2 m.2 ssds and because I'm retarded I'm trying to figure out if I can run a boot menu on 2 different drives. I'm currently using GRUB to dual boot windows and pop os on one 2tb drive. I recently got and installed a 4tb m.2 ssd and I want to install arch on it and then use the 2tb drive for windows only (I'm addicted to flight sim, and windows is still easier to use MSFS with). I know that you can dual boot on 1 drive, as I've done it before; but I'm a bit confused on if it can be done as relatively easy with 2 different drives. If there is no decent way to do it, I don't mind manually changing the boot order in the BIOS, granted I would greatly prefer a boot menu.
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Just add the different os to the same grub loader and give it a 10secon timeout. If you'd rather use the Windows Loader that works too, but you'd have to learn the BCDedit command or track down a Gui editor.
 
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Coelacanth said:
Will look into that. I have Tor too as a last resort because knowing Bongistan they'll probably try to get VPNs banned at some point too if things escalate. Thanks for the tip!
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Lol I have an OpenVPN server running on my computer back home in the US, so when I visit Bongland (which I do fairly regularly), I can pop back home when necessary. I can even bullshit my boss that I haven't left the country or even left my house.
 
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Betonhaus said:
Are we at the point where there's no notable disadvantages to LMDE over the Ubuntu edition?
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So far there isn't any important differences beyond the lack of frequent updates. The Ubuntu mainline gets quite a lot of updates, and as far as my experience on a family's machine, LMDE doesn't really get as many updates beyond anything mint-targeted bug fixes and security updates from upstream. Also, you don't get access to a root account in LMDE by default, but that's more of a default on upstream Debians part. Flatpaks are not (entirely) relevant in this case, since they are essentially their own software distribution. When things slow down exponentially on a Debian release, you typically do not expect drastic, huge update yields once the occasional neglect occurs. People tend to forget maintenance, and Debian is quite forgiving in this respect, more-so than Ubuntu.
 
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Trans Fat 41g said:
So far there isn't any important differences beyond the lack of frequent updates. The Ubuntu mainline gets quite a lot of updates, and as far as my experience on a family's machine, LMDE doesn't really get as many updates beyond anything mint-targeted bug fixes and security updates from upstream. Also, you don't get access to a root account in LMDE by default, but that's more of a default on upstream Debians part. Flatpaks are not (entirely) relevant in this case, since they are essentially their own software distribution. When things slow down exponentially on a Debian release, you typically do not expect drastic, huge update yields once the occasional neglect occurs. People tend to forget maintenance, and Debian is quite forgiving in this respect, more-so than Ubuntu.
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I'm not hearing downsides. having the number of patches you must apply regularly is a perk.
 
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Betonhaus said:
I'm not hearing downsides. having the number of patches you must apply regularly is a perk.
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Just went through this about a month ago. In my opinion, lmde does not have as good a video options as the Ubuntu derived release. For me, the deal breaker was that high DPI support is still considered experimental on the lmde release. It also seemed to have trouble identifying my monitors.

Maybe you don't have a 4k monitor so it doesn't matter to you but I think it's still just needs a little more polish before I can use it, personally.
 
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I have a question for a setup and I'm not sure how difficult it would be to pull off.

What I'd like to do is put a bunch of hard drives into my current gaming computer and use it as a home media server and a htpc.
So it'll act as my swizzin+jellyfin server to download and stream video content
but it would also act as a Steam Remote Play server, which lets me play my games on any of the computers in the house
but it will also be hooked to my tv so I can play games directly or watch content from jellyfin, along with content from paramount plus and Disney+
Can that be done with a Kodi interface? does kodi support PWAs?
 
Betonhaus said:
I have a question for a setup and I'm not sure how difficult it would be to pull off.

What I'd like to do is put a bunch of hard drives into my current gaming computer and use it as a home media server and a htpc.
So it'll act as my swizzin+jellyfin server to download and stream video content
but it would also act as a Steam Remote Play server, which lets me play my games on any of the computers in the house
but it will also be hooked to my tv so I can play games directly or watch content from jellyfin, along with content from paramount plus and Disney+
Can that be done with a Kodi interface? does kodi support PWAs?
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Everything would be easy until you got to the video games stuff, the first bit would have just been a standard Linux install with a desktop environment to watch the films in Kodi or Jellyfin. Jellyfin and swizzin are background process that don't need any sort of GUI at all, it gets accessed via a web browser on the network. But once you get involved with gaming that effectively forces you onto Windows which is an actively bad choice for running a seedbox on.
 
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attractive_pneumonia said:
Everything would be easy until you got to the video games stuff, the first bit would have just been a standard Linux install with a desktop environment to watch the films in Kodi or Jellyfin. Jellyfin and swizzin are background process that don't need any sort of GUI at all, it gets accessed via a web browser on the network. But once you get involved with gaming that effectively forces you onto Windows which is an actively bad choice for running a seedbox on.
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Maybe I can run swizzin under WSL?
 
Betonhaus said:
Maybe I can run swizzin under WSL?
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If I were you I’d install Linux, and then pass through a GPU to a windows VM for gaming. That’s how I’m doing it, works fine. You can even set the windows VM to start automatically, and control the Linux host through ssh and xrdp from within the guest.

Also means you can install windows on ZFS, which is just amazing.
 
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snov said:
If I were you I’d install Linux, and then pass through a GPU to a windows VM for gaming. That’s how I’m doing it, works fine. You can even set the windows VM to start automatically, and control the Linux host through ssh and xrdp from within the guest.

Also means you can install windows on ZFS, which is just amazing.
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Read what he wrote, unless his box has two GPU he cannot do pass through because he intends to have it attached to his TV for use gaming and watching movies. If he wasn't doing such thing it would be trivial to do with something like unraid.
 
attractive_pneumonia said:
Read what he wrote, unless his box has two GPU he cannot do pass through because he intends to have it attached to his TV for use gaming and watching movies. If he wasn't doing such thing it would be trivial to do with something like unraid.
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You can do single GPU passthrough, it’s what I was implying when I said to control the host through ssh or RDP from the guest. Alternatively the host could use an iGPU and the guest a dGPU, which is how I’m doing it. That way the host remains accessible and the guest can be controlled with something like looking-glass.
 
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Read what he wrote, unless his box has two GPU he cannot do pass through because he intends to have it attached to his TV for use gaming and watching movies. If he wasn't doing such thing it would be trivial to do with something like unraid.
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Could I just have the guest interface directly to the tv to game and watch media? It'll just act like my other windows streaming boxes then. The host probably doesn't need to make use of the GPU at all?
 
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