Why this push for collective guilt for slavery in America?

[Briananderson1138]

Why, today, are a great many Americans proponents of a perverse scheme of morality, whereby they should be burdened by an odious and oppressive guilt for a system of slavery with which they had no involvement, and which was destroyed definitively in a war which killed one million of their ancestors?

That this guilt should be transmitted by ethnic lineage seems as grotesque and egregious as anything devised by the exponents of the White supremacy.
Furthermore, the notion that the mechanism of guilt-transmission is constituted by a nebulous “benefit” from slavery seems to me absurd on its face, as, quite aside from the desolation and slaughter brought by the war instigated by the Peculiar Institution, it is obvious that the American states which failed to dissociate themselves from the economic system evolved in consequence of slavery, after the war were invariably left impoverished and degraded by the lesser despotism developed to supplant it.

 

[bliblblblbbllb]

Okay, here's my attempt to preemptively catch all the low-effort responses I could think of:

"You must be fun at parties."
"OMG log off and touch grass."
"Shit nigga I ain't reading that."
"What was the question?"
>reaction image here
"Imagine giving a shit in today's world."
"Bixnoods haha funny negros"
>copypasta here
"Go back to 4chan /pol/"
catposter makes cat-related satirical comment (best outcome)

 

[Linako 2.0]

Because as each generation of white American becomes more quirky and socially awkward, it's easier to shame them into doing what you want.

 

[Fascist Frederick]

This isn't high school and you're not getting graded, you don't need to pad out your essay. 90% of what you wrote is filler and your entire post can be condensed down into 3 lines and not lose anything you were trying to convey.

Actually you know what, you are being graded. I give this post an F+. "F" as in faggot, and "+" as in HIV+.

 

[Agamemnon Busmalis]

Actually you know what, you are being graded. I give this post an F+. "F" as in faggot, and "+" as in HIV+.

We really need to start bringing back GRIDS as a name for AIDS or being HIV+.

 

[The Magnificence]

"Shit nigga I ain't reading that."

 

[Shig O'nella]

*fires up soy voice

"Sorry dude, it's in the Bible. The sins of the fathers are passed down unto the 7th generation. You've got another 30 years or so before you're clear."

All sarcasm aside, it's what @Oglooger said. Shame is a powerful weapon, if you can harness it.

 

[Rome's rightful successor]

Because they want an American equivalent to German style collective guilt and racial/national self hatred.

 

[Breadbassket]

It's the logical conclusion of what was stated in the aftermath of the passing of the Civil Rights Act. Even if white guilt as it is known wasn't really as prevalent in that era as it is now, you can see the framework being established.

Here are some notable things stated by mainstream celebrated activist Martin Luther King Jr:
"Remaining Awake Through A Great Revolution", 1965 (Link):

All I'm saying is simply this: that all mankind is tied together; all life is interrelated, and we are all caught in an inescapable network of mutuality, tied in a single garment of destiny. Whatever affects one directly, affects all indirectly. For some strange reason I can never be what I ought to be until you are what you ought to be. And you can never be what you ought to be until I am what I ought to be - this is the interrelated structure of reality. John Donne caught it years ago and placed it in graphic terms: No man is an Island, entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main... And then he goes on toward the end to say: any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind; and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee. And by believing this, by living out this fact, we will be able to remain awake through a great revolution.

I would like to mention, secondly, that we are challenged to work passionately and unrelentingly to get rid of racial injustice in all its dimensions. Anyone who feels that our nation can survive half segregated and half integrated is sleeping through a revolution. The challenge before us today is to develop a coalition of conscience and get rid of this problem that has been one of the nagging and agonizing ills of our nation over the years. Racial injustice is still the Negro's burden and America's shame. We've made strides, to be sure. We have come a long, long way since the Negro was first brought to this nation as a slave in 1619. In the last decade we have seen significant developments - the Supreme Court's decision outlawing segregation in the public schools, a comprehensive Civil Rights Bill in 1964, and, in a few weeks, a new voting bill to guarantee the right to vote. All of these are significant developments, but I would be dishonest with you this morning if I gave you the impression that we have come to the point where the problem is almost solved.

"Remaining Awake Through A Great Revolution", 1968 (Link)

Secondly, we are challenged to eradicate the last vestiges of racial injustice from our nation. I must say this morning that racial injustice is still the black man’s burden and the white man’s shame.

It is an unhappy truth that racism is a way of life for the vast majority of white Americans, spoken and unspoken, acknowledged and denied, subtle and sometimes not so subtle—the disease of racism permeates and poisons a whole body politic. And I can see nothing more urgent than for America to work passionately and unrelentingly—to get rid of the disease of racism.

Something positive must be done. Everyone must share in the guilt as individuals and as institutions. The government must certainly share the guilt; individuals must share the guilt; even the church must share the guilt.

We must face the sad fact that at eleven o’clock on Sunday morning when we stand to sing "In Christ there is no East or West," we stand in the most segregated hour of America.

The hour has come for everybody, for all institutions of the public sector and the private sector to work to get rid of racism. And now if we are to do it we must honestly admit certain things and get rid of certain myths that have constantly been disseminated all over our nation.

One is the myth of time. It is the notion that only time can solve the problem of racial injustice. And there are those who often sincerely say to the Negro and his allies in the white community, "Why don’t you slow up? Stop pushing things so fast. Only time can solve the problem. And if you will just be nice and patient and continue to pray, in a hundred or two hundred years the problem will work itself out."

There is an answer to that myth. It is that time is neutral. It can be used wither constructively or destructively. And I am sorry to say this morning that I am absolutely convinced that the forces of ill will in our nation, the extreme rightists of our nation—the people on the wrong side—have used time much more effectively than the forces of goodwill. And it may well be that we will have to repent in this generation. Not merely for the vitriolic words and the violent actions of the bad people, but for the appalling silence and indifference of the good people who sit around and say, "Wait on time."

MLK Jr.'s Last Sunday Sermon (Before Assassination), 1968 (Link):

There are those who still feel that if the Negro is to rise out of poverty, if the Negro is to rise out of slum conditions, if he is to rise out of discrimination and segregation, he must do it all by himself … But they never stop to realize the debt that they owe a people who were kept in slavery 244 years.

In 1863 the Negro was told that he was free as a result of the Emancipation Proclamation being signed by Abraham Lincoln. But he was not given any land to make that freedom meaningful. It was something like keeping a person in prison for a number of years and suddenly, suddenly discovering that that person is not guilty of the crime for which he was convicted. And … you don’t give him any money to get some clothes to put on his back or to get on his feet again in life.

While Martin Luther King Jr. can be controversial to some in a few aspects but these are simply things he himself as an individual stated. Obviously he has also been dead for over 50 years but as a major figure promoted as an African-American hero of the 1960s (despite wielding no legal power himself, the Civil Rights Act for example was passed by President Lyndon Johnson and a Democrat government trifecta aided by some Republicans) he has no doubt inspired countless people to take up his ideals. This is all to say nothing of the more radical Black Power movement that came later. Amazing things can be done if a group of people can be convinced you have moral authority over them.

Almost half of the American population apparently believes not enough has been done for racial equality as of April 2023:

 

[ApeBass]

A demoralised population is easier to control. People who hate themselves and their homeland won't defend either.

 

[Norbert the Tiger]

Because they want an American equivalent to German style collective guilt and racial/national self hatred.

This is the correct answer. This kike bitch named Susan Neiman even wrote a book advocating that the United States import the same guilt complex from "good" post-war Germans. The book is called Learning from the Germans:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Learning_from_the_Germans

There is a panel discussion with this woman on youtube I am sure others can find. It makes any sane, rational person's blood boil.
The Young Turks have also talked about post-war West German indoctrination as a model to deal with things like Confederate statues and statues of important figures in teh American Revolution who owned slaves.

 

[Testacles Maximus]

I’m too busy collecting slaves for the afterlife to worry about other instances of slavery.

 

[Otterly]

Shame is the single most powerful behaviour modifying emotion/act. It’s probably more effective than outright violence.
Shame is no longer used for what it should be (sexual degeneracy, being a shithead) but it’s being used as a lever to control behaviour on a societal scale.
Mainly collective guilt which is used to push for reduction of civil rights and destruction of whites as a group/prevent them from asserting rights

 

[Breadbassket]

This is the correct answer. This kike bitch named Susan Neiman even wrote a book advocating that the United States import the same guilt complex from "good" post-war Germans. The book is called Learning from the Germans:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Learning_from_the_Germans

There is a panel discussion with this woman on youtube I am sure others can find. It makes any sane, rational person's blood boil.
The Young Turks have also talked about post-war West German indoctrination as a model to deal with things like Confederate statues and statues of important figures in teh American Revolution who owned slaves.

Here is something interesting about her background.

 

[Sargon's wife's son]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8280aUatvA&ab_channel=ThomasSowellTV

 

[WickyWickyWoW]

It is about guilt, in every peoples past (unless they were perpetually at the bottom of the totem) you can find some sin, Being able to dredge for some form of a sin (like slavery) you can easily twist it into an original sin in our white guilt ridden society. Its about making whites feel like all they can do is commit atrocity and anything short of begging for absolution is only allowing for said atrocity to be committed again. If you damn the greats of the past everything they stood for can easily be washed away, after that you have a ball of clay that can be molded into whatever you please, and those who stand against it are nothing more than evil racists.

 

[Wally Paulnuts]

The guys who run this whole show are a bunch of sweaty porn-addicted jews and they're just not gonna let up until society resembles their wildest BNWO fantasies. Intergenerational racial shaming is a good weapon for that end. Sadly, despite uncountable billions spent on trying to exterminate ypipo via brownoid seed via immigration and propaganda, it really isn't working out that well.

Memes aside it's baffling how these sweaty doofuses don't seem to realize they're creating an evolutionary bottleneck where a massive chunk of breeding whites are the most right wing since post-Weimar Germany, and everyone else is either too fat to get laid or too poor to entertain the thought of child-rearing, including tons of the browns they hoped would outbreed crackas in the first place. Things are gonna get real entertaining once gen beta is old enough to vote.

 

[Moja Zemlja]

Money. The idea that white Americans and America as a country have a debt that needs to be repaid to black people is an idea pushed by a few smart grifters to make a lot of money.

 

[Malodorous Merkin]

It's all about the white guilt grift.

 

[Ser Prize]

White people seem to have more empathy than other ethnicities, and (((other groups))) love to use that to exploit them. They've been doing this for over a century now.