I don't have a horse in this race but when it comes to lolcows I'm a firm believer in the "nothing ever happens" camp until there's 100% definitive proof, so I'm gonna guess this is somehow going to turn into a nothing burger. I think everyone hyping this situation up as a murder-mystery is probably going to be very disappointed towards the end of this.
I suppose there's always a chance she's still alive (although realistically that still doesn't improve Gorerapey's image by much) but I am struggling to understand why some people evidently can't figure out why people think this guy killed his tardwife. "Innocent until proven guilty" doesn't mean people can't speculate or hold their own opinions or make educated observations.
Yeah, people are idiots for thinking a midwit "intellectual" who views women as broodmares for genetic experiments and has admitted to at least abandoning his partner in the woods may have actually killed her. There's simply no way!
She could have been correctly identified as being near the homeless shelter two days after he left her at the gas station. And he said he was on the phone with her on the 19th. Doesn’t mean that she didn’t tell him to pick her up and he mashed the potato when he got her back to the house. He seems pretty confident that her phone was dead at that point, maybe he thought that was a perfect cover for her to be far from the house. That’s my Karen farms theory, anyways. It’s not unheard of for people to get in fights and one of them leaves the house for a couple days to get away from the other person. I don’t think most mom would leave two young kids for longer than a few days.
I don't have a horse in this race but when it comes to lolcows I'm a firm believer in the "nothing ever happens" camp until there's 100% definitive proof, so I'm gonna guess this is somehow going to turn into a nothing burger. I think everyone hyping this situation up as a murder-mystery is probably going to be very disappointed towards the end of this.
I semi-agree. I don't think JF did anything legally wrong, he's just too autistic for his own good. A disdain for slow-moving normie culture can help you achieve things in life but it's like, guy, the questions society is now putting to you are not exactly unreasonable.
My guess though is that the girl did get herself into some trouble.
For me, the most compelling piece of information JF provided was that Élora's parents were completely aware of her little adventure. If they knew she left and didn't think it was worth reporting anything for four months, it's evidence this was in character for her. It's possible JF used that to his advantage to hide his dirty deeds, but there would need to be evidence to that effect.
lmao, this is some Scott Peterson level "wtf there's nothing weird about me coming back from a fishing trip at an unusual time on Christmas Eve and returning from the same lake from which my wife's body will wash up, also there's nothing weird about me dying my hair and driving a car full of kidnapping tools to my mistress's residence" delusion.
12 witnesses saw Peterson's wife alive after he left the house. Yet the police didn't bother to look into most of these sightings even the ones that sounded extremely concerning, because they were 100% focused on Scott due to his bizarre behavior and lack of concern.
Sightings of Laci in the neighborhood that morning continued to be reported into January of 2003. Of all the neighborhood sightings, most of them say they saw her walking their dog, McKenzi, but a few had more concerning information:
One female hospital employee described two men yelling at pregnant woman who was walking a dog. This hospital employee only received a return phone call.
Another tip from a retired reserve officer described a pregnant woman being shoved back into a van less than half a mile from Scott and Laci’s house. He made repeated attempts to contact MPD and was never called back.
Yet another concerning tip came from a Lt. Aponte who worked in a California prison. He called Modesto Police to report a monitored phone conversation that one of their inmates had with his brother, who lived in Modesto. The brother told the inmate that Laci had confronted the burglars who were robbing the house directly across the street from where she lived. That house was, in fact, robbed the day Laci went missing. This conversation was recorded by the prison. Not only has the Modesto Police Department never handed over any follow up on the tip from Lt. Aponte, the tape has been lost. https://www.scottpetersonappeal.org/the-laci-sightings.html
The body was found in the lake months after it had been heavily publicized where Scott had been on the lake that night, so anyone who killed her could easily put the body there to align with the public perception of Scott's guilt.
(Also I don't know what "kidnapping tools" was referring to, I think the story was that he looked like he was trying to flee. And I could understand trying to change your identity and appearance when you are being publicly speculated to have killed your wife and unborn daughter.)
Yes, Scott Peterson is a sociopath and a liar, and he was convicted of murder when there was ZERO physical evidence showing he killed her, despite giving the police access to their cars and home. the closest thing was speculation that he created anchors for his boat in the warehouse. What they did have against him was his behavior before and after the disappearance of Laci.
Which is why the WORST thing that JF can be doing in this situation is making himself look this guilty and sociopathic or refuse to cooperate with the police. A lawyer can be involved in questioning but the lawyer can't make the police focus on someone besides JF if he makes himself seem like he's the one they should be focused on. He should be doing his best to lead them to whatever evidence may exist, if he is truly innocent.
The #1 thing he shouldn't be doing is expressing resentment that anyone is taking her disappearance seriously, such as saying things like this:
other people already posted notes and timestamps of The Crucible interview but here's my autistic notes too
"Mama JF has been disappearing, in the sense of not leaving any contact, not leaving any information about where she was"
"I didn't want any of this, I'm just a family guy, I've just been wanting to provide" but "cannot stop you from doing crazy stuff, from exposing yourself to risks" "when you claim your own liberty I cannot do anything to protect you"
"I don't know if MJF is in danger, I don't know where she is"
"For a couple of days I've been speaking to the police on a regular basis"
"It's not even clear why she left, she's done it in the past." referencing the trip in 2021 because she thought JF didn't want to be with her anymore. "That is sometimes the state of delusion in female minds"
says that he can't do anything about that, but it's not 1920 Christian society where he can't own his wife, we are living in an experimental society where we let women do whatever they want and they sometimes make bad decisions.
In June she left, she bought camping materials, she was preparing for a survivalist trip from what I understand, "she was preparing for life in the wild"
She promised me when she left that she would always be available to deal with official business, he said "if you totally disappear you may put me in trouble on some biz, on some getting you to the Ts" "She promised me she wouldn't fully disappear"
2 days later "she talked to me on the phone and sent a message" "the last message she sends me in June 2 days after leaving," "I may have been in contact a couple times over these 2 days so that I know that she was progressing in what she wanted to do, I knew that she was still alive" "2 days after leaving she says I have changed my plan, I will not hold my promise toward you, I will not be reachable." "She says I have a new plan. I'm like does your new plan involve any sort of attack against me and the family?" "She says my new plan does not involve you, I am just going to change cell phones.
She had left with nothing but her phone.
By dropping her phone it told him that she is leaving her own identity behind, she is "potentially disappearing in nature" "she could be anywhere from there" "in Mama JF fashion"
references a youtube video where she talks about crossing the border in Spain and North Africa
"She is a professional fugitive who doesn't commit crimes"
Says he was wondering if he should call the police but didn't because she is willing and he has no evidence of criminality or distress. "Will I report someone for being survivalist?" "This reminds me of the facebook post, has one of your loved ones gone too survivalist? Has one of your loved ones bought too much camping material? I don't want to be in the society where buying camping material gets you reported to the feds."
Says he is bound to Mama JF's interests and considers himself allied to her forever no matter what she does even if she has other boyfriends.
"Just a woman doing whatever she wants"
says someone in her family talked to a friend who is an investigator who advised its a consensual trip not reportable to the police
"that was the state in June and July, but now it is October, when is it that worries are justified?" "there was a building up of stress in the people that loved her" but JF has always had the position that he saw her wanting to go so he doesn't need to call the police but anyone else can call them if they want to.
"I will not say who ended up calling, but someone, someone ended up noticing" someone who "maybe knew about me"
says the investigation has started maybe 4-5 days ago
feds are coming to the house, waking him up in the morning, says his loved ones and him all sleep late. "There are days when they come once, there are days when they come twice, there is always a truck of the feds in front of my house"
he says he knew he would be accused of foul play no matter what because "we live in a society where we can't accept the cost of liberty. The cost of liberty is that we are going to have a bunch of females make terrible decisions"
"I would be very surprised if I am even considered a suspect in anyway." because of all the electronic records, etc -- swaying his chair back and forth nervously "but the feds are still very thirsty for information"
He is impressed by the quality of the feds' work and they understand that he is a man of the internet and he will not let them in the home
He is hostile to the government but knows vast majority of policemen are very professional workers
Police want info of where he left her, who her friends are, who should could be contacting, etc
"I pulled MJF out of a lifestyle. and I never really got acquainted with this lifestyle." "I don't have respect for human beings, especially homeless druggies" "I extracted her from her misery and her lifestyle and I brought her to a greater lifestyle, cleaner, less craziness"
she is a "super social creature of Montreal"
"the feds being extremely on their path of 'we need to save everyone'" "I'm actually less motivated in finding MJF than they are." addresses MJF that he hasn't initiated this and hasn't sent the feds after her
talks about people discussing this on forums and about people criticizing him for not using her name and still calling her Mama JF
he says he doesn't know if she wants to be found and wants to respect her interests, he has to respect her liberty
"Maybe she's going to Woodstock in the US"
"Don't help someone who doesn't want to be helped" is something he says he has learned at great cost in his life
says to the feds "you guys wanna have fun finding her to be sure that she's safe, you go ahead"
"I didn't know when she left whether it would be a 2 week period like last time or 2 year period" "She could be on a container heading to Morocco right now"
finding her "is not my quest" "as far as I"m concerned she's still in a trip, she's still out there tripping" doesn't know if she consents to being posted online and him saying her name. Says that she can call him to say she wants to be found.
Says to just call the police or email his proton mail account and he will share "any information I think is relevant or factual" so you can forget the idea of trolling him.
"probably MJF is out there having fun, exposing herself to great risks" "no one knows if someone has raped you and put your body in a ditch" "that's the consequence of anonymity" "that is the cost of liberty" "MJF has fully chosen to run with that cost"
reads a chat "if someone could get away with murder, it's JF. but if someone could get away with faking their death, it's mama JF." He laughs and agrees.
while the disappearance of her is chaotic he'd rather have this than a crazy woman attacking him or trying to hurt him
says that she would hate that everyone is looking for her
asks her or anyone who has seen her to say something to calm people down
says they aren't trying to persecute him or her, just want to know she is alive
just before she left in June there was a "bizarre show where I accused her of terrorism because she tried to enter the studio with something that i do not allow at all in this show, like AT ALL, and she knows this very well that there will never be such things on this show" she came running at the camera with this thing and he turned the camera off in time to not show this thing on the show. " "try to violate one of the ultimate rules of this show, a rule so intense that you guys cannot ever hear it" so he banned her from the show for a couple weeks "because that was actual terrorism, you have attempted to terrorize me" "maybe weeks before she left" "I don't know that it's directly related but I think she was starting to get in the rule of party" so she forgot there are serious rules in Papa JF's house.
says he has to take a break because this is weighing on his mind, plus also his sleep schedule is disrupted by the feds.
reads his twitter post about this
reads his tweet I posted above.
"Take our society and just allow some degree control by husbands unto their wives. just basic control of some financial aspects, some 'no you won't travel to Peru'" "and you aren't going to get things like the disappearance of Mama JF"
ends with "that is the cost of liberty, thank you so much for listening everyone"
"I am confident this is a big scare and I hope MJF understands she is causing too much scare."
jokingly refers to himself as "the Hudson Bay butcher"
says that people have been noticing he is "nervous" on stream and has had less time to prepare.
there's "too much people who want to know where Mama JF is"
"she intentionally got rid of anything that could help track her" "of her own volition" "that's a project she has been working on and preparing for many years"
"She could be dead, she could be dead or she could be having fun at some party"
he says there have been years of her wanting to leave
"I'm not going to complain if you want to go out peacefully"
In 2021 she did a "test run" of this trip hitchhiking to Quebec, and before then has traveled across the world including going across borders without passports. She decided in June, "that was her target date" to do it again in a "more serious way or in a more permanent way." He says she was cryptic in leaving and he didn't know if she would ever be back.
In May she started ordering camping equipment on Amazon.
One June 17th she asked him to give her a ride to somewhere she can get a ride from a hitchhiker such as a trucker -- accidentally refers to them as a "customer" then says a "hitchhike person". He says he brought her her to a place by a well known bridge in Canada in front of cameras at a gas station, which he says was the "last time anyone saw her." It was the early afternoon when he dropped her off.
they continued contacting one another on June 18th and June 18th, tried to call each other but had poor service so then communicated via text.
On June 19th they were texting, she told him she was going to drop the cell phone, assured him she was going away and would not do anything to harm him but would not be reachable
He says that day she was seen 2 hours from where they live in New Brunswick. Now says this is the last time anyone saw her or communicated with her.
He says on June 17th he informed her family she was heading west towards them. He says the position of the family is that one can't hold a woman against her will. He says he and the family have always agreed that he shouldn't beat or intimidate her but she can travel and she has an understanding of the risks.
He says that since June 19th the family has also been looking for her.
JF says she bought things like: a camping stool, things to light a fire, a knife, but at the time she left he wouldn't have thought with the stuff she was bringing that she was going on an extended trip in the wilderness, she would be participating in human society and finding friends but not doing extended camping.
BPF said since she didn't bring a passport, identification, etc. she is probably still in Canada. JF says investigator told him this too, but in the past she has used a smuggling network in Spain to get from country to country in Europe. He says she was observing migrant movements there.
He says she could be on a containter of bananas traveling to Beirut right now. "There is not a sort of travel she couldn't do"
He says he told the investigator that she doesn't want to be found.
He says the investigators are superprofessionals and didn't fall for the things the trolls like Ramzpaul are falling for. He says they haven't suspected him, at any point in this investigation, despite the fact he told them the exact same thing he tells the internet who suspects him.
He says this case is an epistemological case of how our society processes guilt, that the closest man is always guilty, he is either a kidnapper or neglectful husband or killer.
He says she has demonstrated extreme ability for survival. He says "the chances that she wouldn't get raped based on what she has gone through in her life are almost zero, and yet she has done it and she has never had harm come her way against her will." -- then what about her accusing NWG of assaulting her?
He respects her intelligence, she is capable as she can pull out a violin and play with him as he improvises a song, "this is a High IQ, extremely capable woman." he doesn't think she is in trouble and told the investigators this.
BPF says that it's often that a man known to the woman responsible for harm coming to a woman, JF says that this can only be said against white men otherwise you are banned from YT, and the only reason people suspect him is that they hate men. "we don't do accusations in this society based on stats." He says he is grateful to once in his life get due process and be surrounded by people who are professional and capable (the investigators) who are operating methodically and not on statistics
Says that the police have already established that last contact with mama JF happened far from the home after they had talked so the cleaning isn't relevant to the investigation.
"I cleaned my house after Mama JF was gone and if you don't understand why you have probably been single forever" a female has a lot of imprint on the house and do a lot of crazy stuff, "sometimes they play with water and it gets into electronics in the house" lol wut? "Mama JF has broken 2 of my laptops just playing with water"
says that MJF had controlled things like the fridge, plates, arrangement of kitchen items for years... so "you come back to your home and you look at it and you want to reshape it in the way you want" "and holy shit did it felt comfortable. I love a fridge that has lots of space, where I can reach for a diet pepsi can in the center I couldn't do that with Mama JF and all of her lettuce and carrots and beets" "yes I did clean my house when an important event in my life happened which is that my wife has gone on a trip and I will never know if she would, when she would come back"
asked if they are married "I call her my wife, we are common law spouse" not interested in paperwork "I consider myself bound to her forever dead or alive or with a new boyfriend or not" "I consider myself a servant of her interests forever"
At this pooint int he interview he is staring at the side and looking down a lot more.
says that he has always advocated for her to stay with him and continue building a family but she has talked about doing this since 2018. but "it's hard to get a plan for a hippie" "she doesn't make plans that are explicit but she has dreams" such as becoming a star, changing the world, promoting the Revolutionary Phenotype, starting a hippie commune, dreaming of a wild and crazy life.
says he didn't fight with her or pressure her about this but she always knew that he opposed this plan as it exposed her to a lot of risks but would respect her choices
says there are some parts of the investigation and things he knows that he will not say due to privacy or to not create an inhibitory effect on the investigation
says that while he doesn't want her to leave and is worried he is happy that she wasn't trying to harm him in anyway while she did this.
"I act in every day of my life as if she will come back" "and if she doesn't come back that is also fine" he says he is neutral as to whether he wants her to come back as she doesn't want her to come back if she doesn't want to. she knows he is fully committed to her forever.
addresses MJF telling her he didn't initiate the investigation but invites her to "find an encrypted way to signal her life" and to contact him and prove to him, tell him something only she would know, to assure the police she is alive. BPF suggests a call to her parents or extended family. JF agrees and starts nervously twirling his beard
"any of you isn't entitled to know where MJF is, that is the truth of liberty" "we life in a society that has come to expect a demonstration of location for everyone in existence" but the government doesn't have that right and neither do strangers.
says that a "worried bureaucrat of the government called the police" but that person is not entitled to their worries
says that a close family member was telling him that in the past she would travel between countries and not contact anyone for months.
says that MJF believed above all in JF's book and that she would want to tell the world to reproduce and not let the machines take over
says she has decided to take this trip without any money to be self-sufficient and has done this before
asked if his household is in turmoil, says "my household is in a beautiful state" and his household is "better organized without her" such as the fridge and "everything is better managed"
BPF says don't even bother asking about children or family as that was a precondition of the interview.
"I didn't say she bought a tent, she bought camping material, we do have a tent, I do not thing that she brought it"
asked if he killed MJF, says "no" and laughs
says that he can tell the sighting of MJF was real because while he didn't remember on his own what she was wearing when she left, after they said she was in a faux leather jacket, he remembered that she did have that jacket.
says "I have been in constant contact with her family" and there was always the question as to whether they should call the police and no one in the family thought they should. "one of them approached an investigator and laid out the facts of the case" and the investigator (who was a friend not acting in official capacity) told them it was a consensual trip and they don't need to call the police
JF clarifies that MJF has never been raped or harmed in her travels and his past discussion of her being assaulted was not during a travel
references Brittany Spears and says he fully disagrees with taking away with someone's rights due to mental illness or instability
beard twirling again
Says best way to help the search is to not troll and promote misinformation
says feds have left him alone for 2 days, "there used to be a truck of the feds in front of my house every morning and sometimes at night" says they can come to him anytime but have given them everything they needed to know. doesn't think they want to oppress either of them just establish her safety.
asked why he refers to MJF in the past tense, he says it is because she is "gone from my life", and is how they talk in French
asked by superchatter if he would tell us if she is mentally ill, he says "mental illness is a human judgement" and should not be talked of as if it is a fact. also says it is a moral judgement and comes with an intent to take over someone's life.
"I do not desire to engage in future relationships" he would be open to suggestions but not actively seek a woman. "I am scrutinized 100x worse than any other human being" due to his choice of lifestyle and occupation. says he was the first streamer
he disparages the idea that it's suspicious for him to take 3 days off to manage affairs when his common law spouse is missing and its in the news
says that if MJF returns he would need to do an STD test as well as confirm she did not give any eggs to anyone else.
"I don't need comfort because MJF is a free woman. She has gone free and I need not to be comforted for the worries of a bunch of fucking normies. You guys are the ones worried. I'm the one who fully trusts this woman."
Will be on Dick Masteron on Sunday and will be on Lauren DeLaguna's stream on Saturday. He asks BPF if he should be worried about going on Lauren's stream, who says yes it will be a bunch of woman prattle about herself and worse than hitting himself with a hammer.
From these 2 streams you can see how his story has shifted.
In the first stream he emphasizes that he is concerned for her wellbeing and seems bitter that he can't control her and that she is exposing herself to risks because she wants to be free. In the second stream he emphasizes that we all have the right to privacy and that he only wants her with him if she wants to be with him of her own free will, and he is NOT afraid for her safety because she is supremely intelligent and capable, and seems angry that anyone is concerned.
In the first stream he suggests she was preparing to live in the wild, in the second stream he emphasizes that she will actually be existing among human society and not planning to be in the wild for extended periods.
In the first stream he says he would be surprised if he was a suspect. In the second stream he asserts he is NOT a suspect at all, and uses his lack of suspicion by the feds as a reason why trolls should not suspect him as they don't have all the info.
In the first stream he seems to be saying he talked with her on the phone when she was telling him she was going to ditch her cell phone, in the second one he says that day their communication was via text. This would also make a big difference in what investigators can gather from her phone records. Is it actually in writing that she is telling him she is going off the grid, or is there a phone call in which anything could have been said, such as telling him her location and asking to be picked up?
My first question would be whether these allegations of her past exploits are true, is she really someone who has gone without contact from family for months? If that is true then my biggest concern with the idea she has left completely consensually is the fact that she had 2 kids at home but some of what he says could be true. Does her extended family really think she is the type of person who would leave her kids for 4 months without a word? I find the idea that it's been a pattern that she left because she once was gone for 2 weeks to be retarded, 2 weeks and 4 months are completely different and he said she never went without contact the first time. As well, it's very different to not call your family in Canada when you are smuggling yourself across the border in Europe vs. not call your family in Canada when you're still in Canada. Also, if she were planning to go off the grid, would she really not tell her extended family, the ONLY person on earth she would tell is JF?
If he's a sociopath or a narcissist, as some have used as a justification for the lack of concern he's showing, why would he want to be solely responsible for his 2 young children, including one that reportedly seems to be an infant? It seems like his sleep and lifestyle are extremely important to him. Why would he be chill with being abandoned with 2 kids? Any person in his situation who truly believes that MJF is alive and well would want her to be found, if not for her safety, to be able to hold her responsible for abandoning their family. If that's what she did it was a horrible thing to do and he should be mad at her.
There are certain plenty of reasons why he wouldn't want to make anything about their kids public, but they are also the biggest issue with the story that she just went off on a trip and he's fine with it because he loves liberty.
I don't have a horse in this race but when it comes to lolcows I'm a firm believer in the "nothing ever happens" camp until there's 100% definitive proof, so I'm gonna guess this is somehow going to turn into a nothing burger. I think everyone hyping this situation up as a murder-mystery is probably going to be very disappointed towards the end of this.
While there's a good chance she could turn up alive and well, it's just entertaining and bizarre at how he's reacted from the time he dropped her off until now. It's abnormal and bizarre behavior, hence why he's a lolcow, and it's exactly the type behavior that makes people go "oh shit he killed her".
If he had said "Mama JF left me in June, I just now found out she was missing and I hope she's found alive and well for our daughters' sake" this thread would still be mostly inactive.
This "sighting" very well could be bait by the RCMP.
The description given isn't only specifically detailed about Mama JF but it's also contradictory to his initial story about camping gear.
Of course JFG 'as a murderer' is going to want to corroborate this bait sighting because it basically exonerate him as the last person to see her, or at the very least, confirming the sighting would make himself feel like the RCMP will focus their investigation elsewhere. They will not.
On the Crucible interview Andrew Wilson asked JFG if he believes the sighting, he says he does. But conveniently he doesn't remember the clothes she wore, but "that does sound like clothes she owns". That was the smartest thing he could have said (because he's a retarded narcissist who can't just shut the fuck up). The backpack however, fucked him. In the sighting it was said that she had a small school sized backpack. Well that doesn't leave much room for camping supplies does it? Andrew asks him about this to which he responded "she definitely purchased camping supplies but may not have taken them". How do you not know JFG? He did confirm she most likely didn't take a tent though, and he doesn't know if the one they already owned (which he says is to big for the backpack) is still at his house. How do you not know JFG? Did he not look in his house and find these unused supplies? It's been five fucking months of her missing, and with all the cleaning he's been doing he didn't notice if a tent needed for shelter in the wilderness was in his home?
This guy is so fucked. It's no wonder the RCMP is backing off of him. It's easier to let this idiot build their case for them. The noose gets tighter every time he talks.
His alibi isn't designed to include her kids. She might not have wanted to be with him, but with kids it's a different ballgame. One question I have is how old was the oldest when she left him the first time and how did the child factor into that situation? Not that it matters much, he should be concerned for his own kids not seeing their mother again. But of course if we talk about that, he would be exposed beyond his feeble attempt to wrap a narrative around it. Let's have a no-holds barred regarding the topic of their kids! Let's hear how this is affecting them.
For me, the most compelling piece of information JF provided was that Élora's parents were completely aware of her little adventure. If they knew she left and didn't think it was worth reporting anything for four months, it's evidence this was in character for her. It's possible JF used that to his advantage to hide his dirty deeds, but there would need to be evidence to that effect.
She had a child less than a year ago,so im going to press x to doubt JF's claims that the grandparents of their child, where fine with her leaving a 1 year old baby with JF so she could fuck off into the woods... that sounds like total bullshit
What I find odd about the updated sighting is; Did it come from a person/witness? Or was it confirmed via camera footage, if they had her on a surveillance camera I would expect them to post a screenshot of the sighting like they do with every other case. Showing a photo of what she last looked like and what she was last wearing is far more informative than a text description alone.
I don't see ANYTHING suspicious from him, because what you call suspicious based on your negative view of him, I simply see as typical eccentric quirks. He is weird, yes, he doesn't care about social norms, yes, he does come off as emotionless (muh psychopath), yes, but that's his personality. He is a cold, rationalistic, introverted, high IQ, autist, and as someone with a disdain for normies, I quite like these traits. I haven't ignored anything, I even read a large part of the documents, since someone posted them, and it makes him look way more sympathetic, I didn't even know an ex even tried to attack him with a knife at some point or that he has 2 brothers who are unemployed incels. You would think kiwifarms users would sympathize with JF's weirdness, but I guess everyone in here is an extroverted chad, whatever.
She had a child less than a year ago,so im going to press x to doubt JF's claims that the grandparents of their child, where fine with her leaving a 1 year old baby with JF so she could fuck off into the woods... that sounds like total bullshit
If that's true, why would he make the claim publicly when the interview is going to find its way to the police? They'll have already spoken with the parents and know he's lying about crucial details, effectively incriminating himself.
It just shows that either nobody gave a shit about Élora, or she'd been so isolated by JFG that the people who did care gave up on keeping in regular contact with her.
