2023 Israel-Palestine Armed Conflict

Oh they do and this is a thing Israel has been bitching about for years. One of the vids Hamas released of hostages looks like it was filmed in a tunnel. What will be interesting is seeing how many quadcopters they have stocked up.

There are also signs of much bigger things happening behind the scenes. Multiple Muslim nations release statements saying that Palestine must return to its 1967 borders, chief of the Arab League is in Moscow right now, Ali Khamenei says Israel is dying a few days before the attack, Egypt doing some glowing shit, ect.
I might be remembering wrong, but when the US pulled out of Afghanistan, all the military weapons/intelligence/equipment was left there for the Taliban to swoop up and use however they pleased, right? Palestine now has their support, among others. I'm thinking the reason they're going so hard is because they've been brewing up their forces for a while and now they think they're in a position where they can go full on offense against Isreal and actually stand a chance as long as they strike as heavy as possible and don't stop until they have enough leverage with hostages and claimed territory. Looking at what happened this weekend (in addition to all these videos of Pali support marches from all over the world and the embarrassing state of the US military), I can see why they're cocky.

The last time I paid attention to an Isreal vs. Palestine skirmish was in 2021 and all I saw on Twitter was a bunch of Palestine support as a reaction to videos of Isrealis celebrating when they fired ballistics. Now that it's the other way around, some people are changing their minds about it but it looks like most aren't, they're still siding with Palestine for reasons like 'Isreal does this to them all the time' or just simply 'fuck jews'.

I'm pissed that so many innocents were kidnapped/killed and put on display. It's just a big 'fuck you' to every single person that isn't Muslim.
 
The 9/11 analogy Israelis are making seems pretty apt and also has some interesting and familiar side effects. 600+ dead is a tremendous amount, and the failure of intelligence has started serious conspiracy theories within Israel. My girl says several family members are saying "inside job". That this was allowed to happen.

I wonder if we are wired to respond to shocking tragedies in this way. Or maybe the infallible CIA and Mossad aren't actually infallible.
The 9/11 analogy is apt because, again, this was staged and meant to happen. This is so obvious I can't believe everyone isn't seeing it. There's literally NO WAY they didn't know this was going to happen, and it plays right into every single one of Israel's goals in relation to Gaza and the Palestinian Question. They've been presented the "final solution" to this question on a silver platter, and with a bombardment of news stories and twitter screencaps of raped and murdered girls being shoved at Western/foreign audiences no one is going to question or protest against them going full slaughter-mode on people that they've been trying to eradicate for the past 70+ years.
 
I don't know why people keep saying this and thinking Israel has the moral obligation to do so. It's legit impossible - Hamas uses civ infrastructure and bodies as shields. There is no way to remove them without killing civilians.

The only way to stop the violence is for Israel to be 100% brutal as possible so people get to the point that they would rather attempt to rise up against Hamas forces using them for cover instead of getting hella murdered by Jews.
When was the last time that actually happened? The only group allowed to stick around is going to be a proxy puppet anyway. No, the only way this ends is a population exchange. Jews and Muslims don't convert each other and there's nothing in their respective cultures that actively encourages it. The only time they ever had any unity was when the Jews cooperated against the Christians under the brute force of the invading Muzzies. They must have thought it was more profitable that way, but I think we can agree that was one of the worst cultural moves they ever could have made. And now, here we are and here we remain.
 
Honestly the US deploying the 6th fleet to the eastern med is the best of bad options right now. The last thing needed right now is for Hezbollah or other State Actors to assume now is a good time for another Jihad. Israel is out for blood right now and this could very easily spiral into a regional war nobody in said region actually wants.
It'll probably be another uss liberty incident where Israel planes attack and sink it and the US will blame Hamas
Pro-Israel and pro-Palestinian protesters clash in New York.

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It should be noted that New York City has relatively large Muslim and Jewish populations.
Diversity is a beautiful thing
Volunteers? I am half-expecting some sort of "selective" draft to be instituted.
Nah, but they'll probably send the the dumbasses still in to help to be sacrificed
The youngest boomer is like 55 years old. I don't think any of them are going to go fight. They might dupe the boomers young'uns into getting themselves killed though.
Probably right but I do expect many to vote for the shit that will amplify this bullshit. Pretty funny how quick we were to send them money
 
Americans have never had to deal with any repercussions for their murderous bloodshed across the globe, and it's unfortunately not going to start now.
The best thing in the world, and the best bet, would be for WW3 to kick off and for China and its allies to stand victorious in the end and do whatever is necessary to turn every American into soylent green to feed to various animal life the world over.
9/11? Ring a bell dummy? The countless problems. Look America right now can't be bothered if some chump kills or kidnaps a dumb tourist who visited an unsafe country and didn't follow the guide. But no country can really attack America effectively minus Mexico and Canada without going nuclear. It turns out when you have the largest navy in the world you get that luxury.
If anything people like you are homicidal maniacs who think America is the great Satan when your just mad we're better at playing the empire game then you and you're a sore loser. Nobody likes the chinks and no one likes sore losers.
Never forget it was white leftists who voted for and ultimately brought these people here.
I doubt that. The geo political situation is completely different. For one Saudi Arabia and Iran really hate each other and are currently involved in a proxy war. Jordan and Egypt on the other hand have thrown their lot in with the West and Egypt right now didn't even pretend to give a fuck about the bombing of gaza and was just like "hamas pick up phone maybe make deal". This could change if the current military dictatorship is overthrown and the muslim brotherhood returns, but I don't see that happening anytime soon.

So that leaves a broken Syria, Palestine and Iran. Not really that scary of a conventional threat but enough for a longer headache.
Iran makes more money financing the war, funds used to fight Jews will probably be siphoned off to help Armenians remove kebab. Because Arab and even rival gulf state families will get rich money to finance a war.
This war is going to be a Quagmire but the middle east is going insane in palastine and Armenia and Azerbaijan.
 
The 9/11 analogy is apt because, again, this was staged and meant to happen. This is so obvious I can't believe everyone isn't seeing it. There's literally NO WAY they didn't know this was going to happen, and it plays right into every single one of Israel's goals in relation to Gaza and the Palestinian Question. They've been presented the "final solution" to this question on a silver platter, and with a bombardment of news stories and twitter screencaps of raped and murdered girls being shoved at Western/foreign audiences no one is going to question or protest against them going full slaughter-mode on people that they've been trying to eradicate for the past 70+ years.
With how things have gone the last 20 years, you would have to be out of your mind not to at least entertain the idea it was staged/meant to happen.
 
So how long before a volunteers for Israel is opened dupping boomer neocons into throwing their lives away for people that spit on them?
I can't see it happening, just from skimming the comments on social media most of the popular ones are along the lines of "now report on what Israel does". Ukraine was a bit of a blank slate, most regular people never thought about it and didn't really have an opinion on it before the war so it was easy to get people riled up over a seemingly unprovoked attack by Russia. Palestine, on the other hand, has had years of being painted as a disenfranchised with terms like apartheid and genocide being thrown around. It's hard to get normies riled up when most of them can remember reports from not that long ago of Israeli soldiers shooting Palestinian children and medics across the border.
 
This might cause another Intifada in the west bank if this keeps up.
It could happen, given the planning that went to the operation yesterday I wouldn't be surprised if Hamas is waiting for the ground invasion of Gaza to start to open up a second front in the West Bank, maybe perform a smaller scale raid or just some random attacks, even if it goes nowhere it might be enough to force the IDF to redeploy forces there from Gaza or to call up more reservists.

At this point, Hamas game plan must be to try and take out as much Israelis as they can by forcing the IDF to clear up Gaza, house by house in the search of their hostages, I think it's going to even more bloody pretty soon.
 
It's hard to get normies riled up when most of them can remember reports from not that long ago of Israeli soldiers shooting Palestinian children and medics across the border.
The last time I checked, and forgive me if I am wrong here, is that America was 100% pro-Israel and only like a few homosexuals who watch Breadtube all day think Palestinians are victims. I don't think online wierdo SJW people who spend all day getting cucked and playing Celeste on Twitch compose a large bulk of Americans.
 
Pro-Israel and pro-Palestinian protesters clash in New York.

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It should be noted that New York City has relatively large Muslim and Jewish populations.
This reminds me of Zohan.

Also, I'm seeing some funny comments in the GLA soundtrack of C&C Generals. I guess since 2 years ago with the Taliban stealing American equipment it would be a tradition to have an IRL event which would cause people to comment on Command and Conquer videos. If China comes marching towards Iran and Israel with flamethrowers and napalm and defeats the terrorists to save the day I'm going to lose my shit.
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They won't be fighting the geared up ones. You know that as well as I do. Shit is going to be nasty.

As far as the Israeli hostages Hamas took - most of them will be dead within the next couple days from mistreatment, revenge against the bombings, maybe the odd escape attempt. I expect the IDF to act like that is the case.
You may as well add Iraq to that short list since they've essentially become an Iranian puppet along Syria and Lebanon.

But yes, survival is the main goal for any state. The ME is currently going through difficult times and they'll want American protection. The Gulf States have a huge headache up north called Iran, a state that could stomp on their militiaries with very little issue and Egypt is headed for a water crisis thanks to Ethiopia looking to dam the Nile river. But at the same time, their populations greatly support Hamas, so it's going to be interesting.
 
I gotta say, having a rave full of drugs, scantily clad women, shitty music, and zonked out rave bros on the border of an enclave of pissed off radicalized Islamists who want to violently erase this shit was probably not a great idea.
Oh not only that, but they did it right next to the headquarters of the IDF Gaza Division so it's no wonder they got shoahed.
 
Just like 9/11 who wins the end. The intelligence department will say they didn't have the resources, and get huge amounts of new funding. And the military companies will get new cash injections to supply both sides.

A good deal for them for only a few hundred dead. You just have to broadcast all the footage to get everyone on side. For both sides.
This won't be that type of war. If anything this war has foreign hands written all over it. Remember countries have made money selling arms like Turkieye, Iran, the US industrial complex have made out like bandits.
If you look at the gear Hamas and Hezbollah has been getting it's clear surplus arms from Ukraine, Armenia have been enriching the Iranians. The Iranian revolutionary gaurd is one of the largest financial backers of Hamas.
The Israelis already have the perfect surveillance state with the illusion of a democratic facade.
If anything occured Hamas and Hezbollah tried something new and it's working devastatingly well. Even though Israel will recover most likely the humiliation will create serious political turmoil in Israel whose already in turmoil over bibi's corruption case.
 
Former Russian President Dmitry Medvedev on Twitter:
— "Clashes between Hamas and Israel on the 50th anniversary of the Yom Kippur War come as an expected development.

This is what Washington and its allies should be busy with.

The conflict between Israel and Palestine has been going on for decades, with the US the key player in it.

But instead of actively working at Palestinian-Israeli settlement, these morons have interfered with us, and are providing the neo-Nazis with full-scale aid, pitting the two closely related peoples against each other.

What can stop America’s manic obsession to incite conflicts all over the planet?

Looks like, nothing short of a civil war on the US territory."
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What's everyone thoughts on this?
If he's trying to get the israelis to turn against America he's wasting his time, they are very aware that without us they are dead in the water.
Damn look at that blood in her pants, she's been violently raped for sure, and looking at her face she seems to be in a fugue state.

Even if she makes it alive she will never be the same. See radfems? that's real rape, she's not gonna be wearing one of those cringy "I was raped" shirts.
it seems drone warfare can no longer be dismissed as a Ukraine war gimmick.
Bro isis was already drone-dropping bombs with 3D printed fins on tanks almost a decade ago, AFAIK they are the ones who invented it.
Have fun loosing another war that you started, abdulah.
They don't care, arab mentality is stuck in bronze age raid-and-retreat strategies, its why mesopotamians would in turn do punitive raids where they would impale a bunch of arabs (and hebrews too since they pulled the same shit att) and do mountains of cut hands and feet.

That's how you keep a civilization going for 3000 years when you're surrounded by barbarians.
or Uganda.
Pre-WWII maybe, but with the decolonization movement after it it would've been another Rhodesia.
Ye Palestinians are fooked.
They are already fucked, literally against the sea, they got nothing to lose but their lives.
They definitely waited for Shabbat to start before taking action so most civilians wouldn't be able to use technology to alert others.
Nah, they can skip that rule if its a matter of life or death, they can also eat pork if there's literally nothing else around. And the enforcement can be very lax, one of my exes considered updating her social media on sabbath a matter of life or death, go figure.
Those hostages are sadly as good as dead
Unlikely, after that kid who was a hostage for years (and died) and israel still let go a bunch of high-profile palestinean prisoners for his corpse because of public pressure these jihadi fucks know damn well that the more hostages=the more they can get.
 
The last time I checked, and forgive me if I am wrong here, is that America was 100% pro-Israel and only like a few homosexuals who watch Breadtube all day think Palestinians are victims. I don't think online wierdo SJW people who spend all day getting cucked and playing Celeste on Twitch compose a large bulk of Americans.
I wasn't referring to America specifically, in my area people are generally very pro-Palestine and that includes people who were frothing at the mouth over Ukraine.
 
The last time I checked, and forgive me if I am wrong here, is that America was 100% pro-Israel and only like a few homosexuals who watch Breadtube all day think Palestinians are victims. I don't think online wierdo SJW people who spend all day getting cucked and playing Celeste on Twitch compose a large bulk of Americans.
Jews vs. Muslims creates an unsolvable dilemma in SJWs heads, equal to the phrase "islam is right about women".
In a war, there are no good guys.
 
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