2023 Israel-Palestine Armed Conflict

Very pointed mention of Michigan there
Michigan has the largest Middle Eastern Population in North America, even prior to Obama doting the country with Somali’s and Syrians.

There are Jewish enclaves the area too, but I believe the Muslim areas are Dearborn and the formerly Polish Hamtramck.
 
The US population is 331 million, 9/11 only killed 3000 people. Proportionally this attack is already more deadly than 9/11 was to the Americans.

Your point about well it's not gonna make Israel fall apart makes you sound completely autistic. Yeah it's not going to do that. That's not the point.

I know. I needed like I had to iterate that for clarity. I said BESIDE OUTRAGE. 9/11 was just mutt outrage too.

This will not really impact their ability to withstand any hypotethical arab confederacy attacks some posters were worrying about/hoping for, that was my point.

I know arabs love to hit things with their shoes, but these guys are taking it straight to foot fetish territory...
 
Somalians are the worst immigrants, period.
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Seems like the Finns and Norwegians would agree with you
“Starting with models for violent offending for Norway, there are marked differences between immigrant groups (M1, Table 3). Immigrants from Iraq, Somalia, Afghanistan and former Yugoslavia have roughly three-fold or larger odds ratios when compared to the majority population. For Finland, the relative differences are generally larger, but for most part, the same countries and country groups (Somalia, Iraq, Iran, Turkey, and the rest of Africa and Afghanistan) appear to have the highest risks of violence in both countries.”
 
Canada is like the haven of anti-semitism in NA its actually pretty well known i thought you have a lot of arabs there, I noticed in the anglo-sphere that a lot of libtards niggers and "anti-zionists" seem to side with the arabs not just the muslims, thankfully I have learned something that is stronger than any libtard partnership

Indians are Israel sycophants, I never knew that India loved Israel so much you could say I am touched, but the distinct smell of the poos mean I have to be at least 2 meters away from them, do any of you know the specifics as to why I know they have their own west bank situation (kashmir) but is it really because we just sell them a shit ton of weapons?
India is a multi cultural nation as a nation most hindus hate Muslims. Makes sense as minus the end of the British empire and ghandis propaganda India as a nation has had bloody borders with the Islamic world. One reason India loves Israel is they are the only other nation in the world that is a religious state that isn't nationally secular, Muslim, or Christan. Because of this India does feel a slight infatuation for Israel. Also There's a billion people in India who are allowed to live mostly freely.
 
I bet 100% this kills PR for Palestinians and progressives for the next five years. This is going to haunt people who are publicly identified saying "Resistance!" previously.
You vastly underestimate the power of progressive denial. I've had people argue that IS did not, in fact, have preteen and borderline toddler executioners even when I provided 8K video shot by IS themselves. How do they maintain their state of denial in the face of such evidence? Simple, the video was hosted by Breitbart and since Breitbart is not CNN they're simply not going to view the video.
 
It's fucked up to me that the list of people who could potentially have benefitted from this has prevented me from settling on a conspiracy that makes the most sense. I'm not even fully convinced there was a conspiracy because one of the constants of the earths history has been the Muslim/Jew hate boner. But think about it.
Bibi's opponents on all sides stand to see him resign in disgrace or get oustered in shame as they could paint him as an incompetent leader who distracted everyone with judicial reforms.
Bibi himself could go hardliner again and make the case that this is why he should be given more power to ethnically cleanse Palestine once and for all.
Biden got a nice convenient excuse to use with Zelensky given that Ukraine support is polling lower than ever and he wants a smooth breakup of that relationship without Zelensky spilling the beans.
Xi gets to watch as western nations scramble to respond to something that once would have been a weekend exercise for them, and gets to enjoy some reprieve to make Taiwan plans while everyone else goes back to worrying about sand dunes.
Iran gets to wage a holy war while their enemies are at the weakest they've been in decades and gets to potentially bolster their reputation in the Arab world by funding an attack that bloodied Israel's nose.
War hawks and glowies in the US and other countries get an excuse to ramp up production of arms, surveillance of citizens and plans for total control and profit.
Putin gets to distract the US and other western powers from supplying Ukraine long enough to potentially make further gains or solidify Russian positions while Ukraine flaps in the breeze.

The only people I see really losing here are the poor fucks in Palestine who are too retarded to realize the reason even none of their Arab compatriots want to take them in is because they still support these hardliner savages and will hide them and provide them intel like the vietnamese did to the VC.
 
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Seems like the Finns and Norwegians would agree with you
“Starting with models for violent offending for Norway, there are marked differences between immigrant groups (M1, Table 3). Immigrants from Iraq, Somalia, Afghanistan and former Yugoslavia have roughly three-fold or larger odds ratios when compared to the majority population. For Finland, the relative differences are generally larger, but for most part, the same countries and country groups (Somalia, Iraq, Iran, Turkey, and the rest of Africa and Afghanistan) appear to have the highest risks of violence in both countries.”
Why is Esti so fucking high?
Aren't Fins effectively cousins?
 
It's only bad in Toronto and Vancouver, though Indians are more hated in Vancouver. Other small cities aren't that bad, but they also tend to be more Right leaning. Even Quebec doesn't want Muslims around and get pretty upset when Imans or whatever the fuck those warmongers are called start going around telling Muslims to kill Jews.
Quebec is pretty based when it comes to stuff like this. A few years back, there was a pretty big row when the government banned employees from wearing religious symbols, which was created to stop women from wearing those trash bags in government jobs. The premier has gone on record saying he only wants immigrants who speak French. That tends to disqualify most Muslims. Montreal has a very large Jewish population. some type of brawl between Muslims and Jews wouldn't surprise me. Montreal has a habit of rioting too.
 
You vastly underestimate the power of progressive denial. I've had people argue that IS did not, in fact, have preteen and borderline toddler executioners even when I provided 8K video shot by IS themselves. How do they maintain their state of denial in the face of such evidence? Simple, the video was hosted by Breitbart and since Breitbart is not CNN they're simply not going to view the video.
I've met progressives have you ever wondered why California has such the Good vibes man nonsense it's a front to cover for the fact progressives are insecure. They have a black and white world view right wing chuds are bad and or dumb left wing people are good and or smart. They can't think beyond this world view. This is why progressives will say the most insane nonsense like yes you can identify as a child and that's okay.
 
I've seen some confusion, and idk who believes what, but the antizionist perspective is not without nuance. In fact it remembers history, like Weimar Germany [Jews did it] and 9/11 [Jews did it]. All I want is to not be drawn into a war yet a-fucking-gain [by Jews].
The defiled female corpse was that of an IDF reservist, @shanukkk on Instagram [now privated], rest in peace [unironically] [https://twitter.com/MbolaGeneive/status/1710888124241633575]. The IDF is also defiling Palestinian corpses. If one video can be called fake, then they all can, so have fun playing that game.
 

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man im so glad the adults are in charge of politic at this time. Biden managed to not even complete one term before two wars sprung under his leadership. Giving billions to ukraine in money and weapon (with tons of it funneled to hamas), billions to iran (funneled to Hamas). Now the US will be giving some more billions to Isreal too. Sure happy the right people are back in charge. Maybe well manage to trigger WW3 if the corpse in chief reaches a second term.
 
WSJ has confirmed Iran helped plot this attack.

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Iran Helped Plot Attack on Israel Over Several Weeks​

The Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps gave the final go-ahead last Monday in Beirut


DUBAI—Iranian security officials helped plan Hamas’s Saturday surprise attack on Israel and gave the green light for the assault at a meeting in Beirut last Monday, according to senior members of Hamas and Hezbollah, another Iran-backed militant group.

Officers of Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps had worked with Hamas since August to devise the air, land and sea incursions—the most significant breach of Israel’s borders since the 1973 Yom Kippur War—those people said.
Details of the operation were refined during several meetings in Beirut attended by IRGC officers and representatives of four Iran-backed militant groups, including Hamas, which holds power in Gaza, and Hezbollah, a Shiite militant group and political faction in Lebanon, they said.
U.S. officials say they haven’t seen evidence of Tehran’s involvement. In an interview with CNN that aired Sunday, Secretary of State Antony Blinken said: “We have not yet seen evidence that Iran directed or was behind this particular attack, but there is certainly a long relationship.”
“We don’t have any information at this time to corroborate this account,” said a U.S. official of the meetings.
Iran’s supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, has praised the attacks. PHOTO: SALAMPIX/ZUMA PRESS
A European official and an adviser to the Syrian government, however, gave the same account of Iran’s involvement in the lead-up to the attack as the senior Hamas and Hezbollah members.
Asked about the meetings, Mahmoud Mirdawi, a senior Hamas official, said the group planned the attacks on its own. “This is a Palestinian and Hamas decision,” he said.
The Iranian delegation at the United Nations in New York didn’t respond to a request for comment. Iran’s supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, has praised the attacks, saying in a post on X, formerly known as Twitter, that the “Zionist regime will be eradicated at the hands of the Palestinian people and the Resistance forces throughout the region.”
A direct Iranian role would take Tehran’s long-running conflict with Israel out of the shadows, raising the risk of broader conflict in the Middle East. Senior Israeli security officials have pledged to strike at Iran’s leadership if Tehran is found responsible for killing Israelis.
The IRGC’s broader plan is to create a multi-front threat that can strangle Israel from all sides—Hezbollah and the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine in the north and Palestinian Islamic Jihad and Hamas in Gaza and the West Bank, according to the senior Hamas and Hezbollah members and an Iranian official.
At least 700 Israelis are confirmed dead, and Saturday’s assault has punctured the country’s aura of invincibility and left Israelis questioning how their vaunted security forces could let this happen.
Israel has blamed Iran, saying it is behind the attacks, if indirectly. “We know that there were meetings in Syria and in Lebanon with other leaders of the terror armies that surround Israel so obviously it’s easy to understand that they tried to coordinate. The proxies of Iran in our region, they tried to be coordinated as much as possible with Iran,” Israel’s ambassador to the United Nations, Gilad Erdan, said Sunday.
Hamas has publicly acknowledged receiving support from Iran. And on Sunday, Iranian President Ebrahim Raisi talked to Palestinian Islamic Jihad leader Ziyad al-Nakhalah and Hamas chief Ismail Haniyeh.
Iran has been setting aside other regional conflicts, such as its open feud with Saudi Arabia in Yemen, to devote the IRGC’s foreign resources toward coordinating, financing and arming militias antagonistic to Israel, including Hamas and Hezbollah, the senior Hamas and Hezbollah members said.
The U.S. and Israel have designated Hamas and Hezbollah as terrorist organizations.
“We are now free to focus on the Zionist entity,” the Iranian official said. “They are now very isolated.”
The strike was intended to hit Israel while it appeared distracted by internal political divisions over Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s government. It was also aimed at disrupting accelerating U.S.-brokered talks to normalize relations between Saudi Arabia and Israel that Iran saw as threatening, the senior Hamas and Hezbollah members said.

Building on peace deals with Egypt and Jordan, expanding Israeli ties with Gulf Arab states could create a chain of American allies linking three key choke points of global trade—the Suez Canal, the Strait of Hormuz, and the Bab Al Mandeb connecting the Red Sea to the Arabian Sea, said Hussein Ibish, senior resident scholar at the Arab Gulf States Institute in Washington.
“That’s very bad news for Iran,” Ibish said. “If they could do this, the strategic map changes dramatically to Iran’s detriment.”
Leading the effort to wrangle Iran’s foreign proxies under a unified command has been Ismail Qaani, the leader of the IRGC’s international military arm, the Quds Force.
Qaani launched coordination among several militias surrounding Israel in April during a meeting in Lebanon, The Wall Street Journal has reported, where Hamas began working more closely with other groups such as Hezbollah for the first time.

Around that time, Palestinian groups staged a rare set of limited strikes on Israel from Lebanon and Gaza, under the direction of Iran, said the Iranian official. “It was a roaring success,” the official said.
Iran has long backed Hamas but, as a Sunni Muslim group, it had been an outsider among Tehran’s Shia proxies until recent months, when cooperation among the groups accelerated.
Representatives of these groups have met with Quds Force leaders at least biweekly in Lebanon since August to discuss this weekend’s attack on Israel and what happens next, they said. Qaani has attended some of those meetings along with Hezbollah’s leader Hassan Nasrallah, Islamic Jihad leader al-Nakhalah, and Saleh al-Arouri, Hamas’s military chief, the militant-group members said.
Iranian Foreign Minister Hossein Amir-Abdollahian attended at least two of the meetings, they said.
“An attack of such scope could only have happened after months of planning and would not have happened without coordination with Iran,” said Lina Khatib, director of the SOAS Middle East Institute at the University of London. “Hamas, like Hezbollah in Lebanon, does not single-handedly make decisions to engage in war without prior explicit agreement from Iran.”
The Palestinian and Lebanese militias’ ability to coordinate with Iran will be tested in the coming days as Israel’s response comes into focus.
Egypt, which is trying to mediate in the conflict, has warned Israeli officials that a ground invasion into Gaza would trigger a military response from Hezbollah, opening up a second battlefront, people familiar with the matter said. Israel and Hezbollah exchanged fire briefly on Sunday.
Hamas has called on Palestinians in the West Bank and Palestinian citizens of Israel to take up arms and join the fight. There have been limited clashes in the West Bank, but no reports of clashes between Arabs and Jews inside Israel, as happened in May 2021 when Israel and Gaza last engaged in extended combat.
The Iranian official said that if Iran were attacked, it would respond with missile strikes on Israel from Lebanon, Yemen and Iran, and send Iranian fighters into Israel from Syria to attack cities in the north and east of Israel.
Iran’s backing of a coordinated group of Arab militias is ominous for Israel. In previous conflicts, the Soviet Union was the ultimate patron of Israel’s Arab enemies and was always able to pressure them to reach some type of accommodation or recognize a red line, said Bernard Hudson, a former counterterrorism chief for the Central Intelligence Agency.
“The Soviets never considered Israel a permanent foe,” he said. “Iran’s leadership clearly does.”
 
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Seems like the Finns and Norwegians would agree with you
“Starting with models for violent offending for Norway, there are marked differences between immigrant groups (M1, Table 3). Immigrants from Iraq, Somalia, Afghanistan and former Yugoslavia have roughly three-fold or larger odds ratios when compared to the majority population. For Finland, the relative differences are generally larger, but for most part, the same countries and country groups (Somalia, Iraq, Iran, Turkey, and the rest of Africa and Afghanistan) appear to have the highest risks of violence in both countries.”
Off topic, but what are the Thais and Estonians on to be at the level of bloodlust of the fucking Balkans?
 
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