2023 Israel-Palestine Armed Conflict

[Honka Honka Burning Love]

Palestinians physically have nowhere, jews have convinced themselves that if they loose this shitty sliver of desert its 26 gorrillion or whatever. Operating on this logic both sides have been escalating the issue for 70 some odd years.

That is what happens when you don't fix problems, they escalate.

 

[LaxerBRO]

Just an aside.

I know we have all seen the videos of family members weeping for their missing loved one BUT remember emotional manipulation or even lies is not something foreign to the Middle East:

False testimony of the Kuwaiti Ambassadors daughter pushed the US to war.

 

[Sinner's Sandwich]

Anyone who could get out got out already.

Why do you think the palestinians fight like fucking crazy? These aren't insane people, they're rational, but they know they have no realistic way out. You can't just airlift 1.5 Million or so civvies out of somehwere easily either.

Also it's their country. Israel is the invader. And most of them can't just go to another country. It's not that simple.

 

[Smokingpoop]

Not that im supporting jews but Islam is an inherently violent religion. As long as there are Muslims in the world, there will always be war and death. All the while Europe openly invites sand niggers into their borders only for their own countries to be destroyed from within like a disease by them.

 

[mindlessobserver]

Anyone who could get out got out already.

Why do you think the palestinians fight like fucking crazy? These aren't insane people, they're rational, but they know they have no realistic way out. You can't just airlift 1.5 Million or so civvies out of somehwere easily either.

This is not entirely true. Israel was prepared to give Yasser Arafat independence and international recognition. But he had to accept the Borders IN PLACE, and essentially, do the EU IV "Relinquish All Claims" clause to what amounted too a surrender treaty. Claims which included sovreignty over the Temple Mount, and front facing Israeli settlements in the West Bank.

He didn't take the deal, instead opting for starting another Intifada. After that hard liners like Sharon came to power and Israel never offered independence again. Its been a downward spiral since then. They DID have the chance for it though. They didn't take it for reasons both historical, religious and political. But the biggest reason was Arafat knew his own people would murder him if he signed that treaty.

In Fairness though, radical Israelis also murdered the Prime Minister who broached the subject too. So the Jews aren't entirely angels in this.

 

[Absurdist Laughter]

I'm still unclear on how goatherds in homemade roflcopters somehow managed to evade the famously strict IDF surveillance and commit an attack of this magnitude.

The annoying thing is we'll probably never know for certain; only guess after the skirmish is all said and done. If it is a genuine mistake, there is no way anyone will admit it in this social economy.

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Man, watching the stream. Gaza really does sound like it is in the midst of an apocalypse. Rolling thunder, bombs dropping, folks screaming; I truly hope this doesn't happen on American soil any time soon. Not to mention the ever present hum of something; are they using drones with propellers?

 

[Londo]

Based on their conduct in my home country of Sweden, yes they fucking did. They are a plague of murderous rapelocusts and the world would be an objectively better place if they were all gassed to death. I am willing to sink as low as taking the side of even the Jews if it came down to having to pick a side. The Jews wouldn't be able to import the rapelocusts into my country if the rapelocusts didn't exist.

Yeah, to add to this. Muslims inherently are incapable of peace. They are terrorists by their very religion.

 

[Londo]

That sounds like artillery now firing in the distance.

 

[toad of the depths]

This is not entirely true. Israel was prepared to give Yasser Arafat independence and international recognition. But he had to accept the Borders IN PLACE, and essentially, do the EU IV "Relinquish All Claims" clause to what amounted too a surrender treaty. Claims which included sovreignty over the Temple Mount, and front facing Israeli settlements in the West Bank.

He didn't take the deal, instead opting for starting another Intifada. After that hard liners like Sharon came to power and Israel never offered independence again. Its been a downward spiral since then. They DID have the chance for it though. They didn't take it for reasons both historical, religious and political. But the biggest reason was Arafat new his own people would murder him if he signed that treaty.

You can literally pick any point in time between the first Zionist scraps with Bedouins in the 20s to today as the point when somebody should've chosen to back down. Some israeli brought up the classic greenhouses (thanks dennis prager, I know that one), palestinians will point to various irgun improprieties, but its the same shit for over a century now.

 

[dustbuster]

Yeah, to add to this. Muslims inherently are incapable of peace. They are terrorists by their very religion.

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No no you have it all wrong according to some retards in this thread.
They're "oppressed" and have every right to slowly torture civilians to death.

 

[behindyourightnow]

This land is cursed. So much bloodshed for centuries.

This video was made by dedicated TERF Nina Paley, it's among my favorites:

 

[Breadbassket]

Man, watching the stream. Gaza really does sound like it is in the midst of an apocalypse. Rolling thunder, bombs dropping, folks screaming; I truly hope this doesn't happen on American soil any time soon. Not to mention the ever present hum of something; are they using drones with propellers?

Israel is a known drone manufacturer so them using any UAVs wouldn't be out of the ordinary.

 

[Cheetox]

hearing the background screaming kind of reminded me of this, really grim stuff.

 

[CharlesBarkley]

Also it's their country. Israel is the invader. And most of them can't just go to another country. It's not that simple.

At this point, Rome should just come out and say, "Uh, it's actually our land. We are taking your homosexual temples down and putting in a huge ass statue of Uranus sodomizing Allah/whatever Jews worship. Who do Jews worship? Woody Allen? We will do that." if morality is strictly based on previous land ownership.

 

[he who has thus come/gone]

The site is being brokedickfarms but there is now an interview with the girl who found out her grandma was killed because of Hamas using the grandmas phone to make a video of killing her and posting it to her page. Hamas really fucked up any larger western sympathy points.

It's so cringe when people are so naive they think videos of horrible atrocities mean anything to people whose entire mindset is bent on attacking white people/"colonizers"/Israel. Western libs, especially young white women, will deny evidence placed right before their eyes if it would cause them to feel the anguish of having to interrogate their beliefs. At least the Palestinian barbarians are honest—they fully accept the atrocities and revel in it. Western liberals are so intellectually and morally beaten down that almost nothing will shock them out of their Palestinian sympathies. And if it would, their tard wranglers in the media will just distort or gatekeep that information.

It's very sad, because their actions should fuck up western sympathies. But they won't.

 

[Solid Hyrax]

Not to mention the ever present hum of something; are they using drones with propellers?

Check out the bad boy on this guy

 

[Anonymus Fluhre]

Also it's their country. Israel is the invader. And most of them can't just go to another country. It's not that simple.

They can die, that's pretty simple. It's better than wasting ammunition on innocent people. Fuck them and fuck people like you who support them and believe their bullshit.

 

[Hillary Clinton's Ass]

That last part is going to be intensely sticky because its almost certainly not going to happen, much like how Hamas will also not accept any demand to surrender without a fight. I expect the first step will be to secure fortified enclaves within the Siege zone. After that, food and water will be provided to civilians there, after appropriate groveling, and thorough vetting.

To this I would the danger of Hamas militants disguising themselves as civilians and using whatever routes the Israelis open for the civilians to escape the combat zone. We might even see the first suicide bombings happening there.

 

[mindlessobserver]

Also it's their country. Israel is the invader. And most of them can't just go to another country. It's not that simple.

Not...entirely true either. This section of the Levant has always belonged to whoever had the power to control it. Everyone on that patch of dirt is an invader. The OG inhabitants were exterminated thousands of years ago.

 

[draggs]

I’ve said before and I’ll say it again: Hamas does not care about sympathy anymore. All they want to do is kill every last Jew that occupies their land and oppresses them. The sooner folks realize that, the more you understand the “victory or death” mentality that both sides of this conflict are going to end up running on.

Honestly, I think this Facebook story could end up being one of the TAMER (relatively speaking) horror stories to come out of this situation.

Well they're dumb as fuck. They're going to die

Pay attention to what Bibi said and what is happening. He said they wanted a war and they are getting a war. This is nothing like any attack on Gaza before. They bombed it 1,000 times today. Just today. They're firing artillery now too. Israel is striking like they've got the 2nd SS Panzer Division on the other side of the line. This is force and will of war beyond what Gaza can physically handle and it's only gonna get worse

Hamas fucked up