2023 Israel-Palestine Armed Conflict

I feel like the west is already full up on people already and importing even more of a volatile population will backfire. You can already see tons of Muslims becoming more prominent and taking over city. Imagine when it becomes states and they become a huge enough political bloc in the western world. I don't mind immigrant if they try to integrate but history shown us that Muslim don't. This societal shift is what I'm worried about. There is also the one who will migrate to neighboring middle east country and then stir up more shit against Israel because of a never ending blood feud Jews and Muslim killing and hating each other.

As long as the people in power have their gated communities and private security. Everything is fine. Who gives a crap about you?
 
There’s a lot less “suffering of the Palestinians” puff pieces on the news than usual after Isreal respond to a Hamas chimp out. Are the commies at the BBC and Sky News actually reading the room?

The Palestinian fighters decided to do the one thing that would turn western sympathy against them. They attacked a music festival. If there's one thing libtards hold sacred, it is the right to get high in a field somewhere and dance to mediocre music. And of course the general just raiding houses to capture kill and rape people, that doesn't win any fans either. Even moreso when you actually film it yourself and broadcast it online. It's not just a case of "Israel said Hamas did X" it's actual video being released by Hamas themselves and your average normal person going "holy shit these are bloodthirsty savages".
 
As long as the people in power have their gated communities and private security. Everything is fine. Who gives a crap about you?

It does seem like in some places the tide is turning. I read a recent poll that said 73% of Canadians want less immigration. That's pretty significant. Just a few years ago most Canadians would've agreed that Trump is an evil crazy racist who hates Mexicans. Now the average Canadian holds policies similar to Trump in America in 2016. Less acute in USA tbh but in countries like Canada or Sweden with small populations, I think more and more people are waking up to the negative effects of mass third world immigration. I give credit to the internet and user created/shared video
 
It does seem like in some places the tide is turning. I read a recent poll that said 73% of Canadians want less immigration. That's pretty significant.

Okay, go have your million man peaceful march. Remember you are above dragging them out and causing violence upon them. But if their arm, the police, decide to beat you to pulp then you are now Jesus of Nazareth. And get all the superpowers thereof.
 
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Hamas might have pushed israel to open their pocket books and to spread momentary panic, but if it results in their group being wiped off the earth, and gaza completely under the control of israel; who would you say accomplished their overall goals? Who has more influence and power by the end of it?
I would be curious to hear other kiwis takes on this. But my two cents is:

There are 2+ MILLION very, very angry people in Gaza. Unless you do multiple nukes, those people are going to live. Either in gaza, or egypt, or lebanon, or berlin. And they'll vote and if they're kids they'll grow up or they'll have kids and tell them the horror stories of the israeli. And there will be waves upon waves of angry fighters.

You can bread and circus an irreligious crowd. It worked on the west, through academia and the left and new atheism. Nothing matters so I'm gonna get fat and buy the new funko pop and see the nigger spiderman sholomostein cohen brothers trash. If you actually have a highly religious population they are inoculated against this propaganda with ancient magic. It's worked for thousands of years.

Palestinians won't die out and there are some x million kikes to the x billion mudslimes. History will forget the jew.
 
apparently you arnt aware of the strain of English known as niggeronous americanous.


same. i grew up in a heavily republican area during the iraq war so i developed a strong disliking to republicans and a soft heart towards the left. these last 5-10 years has really made me question that and have way more disdain towards the left than the right. still dont like the average right winger and republicans, but god do i hate the modern left so much.
I have said it before. The difference between the left and the right is whether they are willing expunge the worst of their own side or not.
On the right, there is a line that when you cross it then it becomes too much and they will denounce you and kick you out.
If you start going "gaz the jews" at even the most rightwing rally they will kick you out.

On the left no such line exist. As long as you are on the left then all transgressions will be overlooked.
And we see right now large crowds of far-leftists with swastikas and chanting "gaz the jews" and no lefty politician are going after them or kicking them out.
They are their voters and their vote is more important than kicking out the trash?

I find that interesting to witness. Far-left chanting "gaz the jews" on tv and no one is expunging them from the left.
I think it is part due to the left has very weak or no moral or ethic guidelines that guides them. They don't have a stable foundation for their value systems.
 
Let me preface this by stating that I don't agree with either group and think they're retarded spastics for different reasons.
Size of both groups that chanted retarded drivel contrary to their causes was in the hundreds. I would guess more at the glowy rally because America has more people.
Media bias in a series of images.

WaPo
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Large crowd of hundreds. This is the USA, with a population that far exceeds Australia's no man's land.

Reuters and various other media outlets.
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Small group everyone!

Oh, this is the "advocacy group" that organised the rally in Sydney on Monday were GASS DA JOOOZ chants took place.
https://apan.org.au/
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Hmm...
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Well that looks familiar.

Oh.
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I'll just use a free garbage VPN to see if they have filtering.
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Well well well look at our old friend here.

Cloudflare supports the gassing and killing of Jews.
Matthew Prince is literally Hitler.
No other conclusion can be made by their own logic, until Matthew Prince writes a whiney blogpost denouncing them and dropping service.


More protests, each major city prefaced with the indigenous name in typical leftist fashion no less.
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It does seem like in some places the tide is turning. I read a recent poll that said 73% of Canadians want less immigration. That's pretty significant. Just a few years ago most Canadians would've agreed that Trump is an evil crazy racist who hates Mexicans. Now the average Canadian holds policies similar to Trump in America in 2016. Less acute in USA tbh but in countries like Canada or Sweden with small populations, I think more and more people are waking up to the negative effects of mass third world immigration. I give credit to the internet and user created/shared video
I can only speak for Germany. In 2015 the immigration was extremely popular (which makes it funny to me that people claim somehow Jews are behind it, I remember all the Germans celebrating the new arrivals). Merkel got even reelected in 2017.
However now 8 years later it has transpired exactly like rational people predicted. Crime is up and people are starting to realise that it was a shit idea and diversity and integration is a lie.

The last two years have also destroyed the German naive thought that all nations can "just get along".

Overall the left is taking so many Ls you almost have to feel bad. From the Russian sanctions wrecking energy prices just as they are starting to shill their green energy push, to Palestinians massacring everyone after they have shilled for the poor oppressed for so long. To the point were the green foreign minister is basically desperately begging to at least keep funding the food program in Palestine. It's a fever dream given how cucked the country usually is.
 
I find that interesting to witness. Far-left chanting "gaz the jews" on tv and no one is expunging them from the left.
I think it is part due to the left has very weak or no moral or ethic guidelines that guides them. They don't have a stable foundation for their value systems.

I would argue there is no left in the traditional sense today. Either you've been disillusioned by the kowtowing as unrealistic to what you know and moved to the right. Or you just accepted the narrative. The NPC's I think the Americans call them. It may change at any time. Even contradicting what you supported previously.
 
Yeah, sure, I can buy 40 dead babies, but 40 beheaded babies? maybe one beheaded baby, two if you're pushing it, but 40? that sounds like something you add onto an already terrible tragedy to make it sound even worse, which is retarded, but journos are retarded.
Nobody is selling 40 beheaded babies.

The reports were of 40 dead babies, some beheaded.
 
I think it is part due to the left has very weak or no moral or ethic guidelines that guides them. They don't have a stable foundation for their value systems.
Their moral system is a pretty simple and stable "oppressed vs oppressor" narrative, with the addendum "The oppressed can do no wrong against the oppressor." If you get that coveted oppressed group label, you can do anything, up to and including genocide, so long as it's against the opressor.

Poor little muzzies chanting gas the jews? Well 70 years of brutal zionist oppression has given them the right to do that.
 
So where are the 40 beheaded babies?
Ghosts of Tel Aviv.

Those reports claimed 40 dead babies, some were beheaded.
There are photos of bloody cribs, what other act would create so much blood? Maybe someone ran to protect the baby but Hamas terrorists shot them in the head.

I don't think there's an official source yet.
 
I can only speak for Germany. In 2015 the immigration was extremely popular (which makes it funny to me that people claim somehow Jews are behind it, I remember all the Germans celebrating the new arrivals). Merkel got even reelected in 2017.
However now 8 years later it has transpired exactly like rational people predicted. Crime is up and people are starting to realise that it was a shit idea and diversity and integration is a lie.

The last two years have also destroyed the German naive thought that all nations can "just get along".

Overall the left is taking so many Ls you almost have to feel bad. From the Russian sanctions wrecking energy prices just as they are starting to shill their green energy push, to Palestinians massacring everyone after they have shilled for the poor oppressed for so long. To the point were the green foreign minister is basically desperately begging to at least keep funding the food program in Palestine. It's a fever dream given how cucked the country usually is.
For better or worse a lot of the US is still insulated from these issues. It's really only the big liberal cities that have been negatively affected. The fact is that Latinos are simply more assimilable to USA than Muslims and Africans are to Europe. It's not great here, but our most extreme problems seem to be coming from lack of law enforcement, rampant black homicide and exploding white homelessness drug addict problems. Immigration to USA is just icing on the cake. I think people are starting to finally see a link between rampant immigration and housing prices, but it's still not much. I'd be willing to bet your average American is probably much to the left of Europe with regards to immigration, whereas 8 or 10 years ago that probably wasn't the case.

My biggest worry right now with this Israel/Gaza war is that there could be false flags in the US or we could be drawn into the fighting. As much as I think Israel has a right to do whatever needs to be done to secure peace, I don't think we should get any more involved in it than we already are. Ultimately it seems like things are shaping up for Trump to be back in the White House 2 years from now. If there's any kind of significant terror attack and they claim that they went through the porous southern border, Trump will automatically win. At this point I am so tinfoil hat I really don't think very much of this is random chance, it's just a scripted stage play. But it is entertaining
 
For better or worse a lot of the US is still insulated from these issues. It's really only the big liberal cities that have been negatively affected. The fact is that Latinos are simply more assimilable to USA than Muslims and Africans are to Europe.
I would compare Latinos to the Poles and Russians that came here. They generally integrate quickly enough to not cause massive problems. I hope Ukrainians will be the same.

There's also an uptick in Belarusian refugees. Meaning that the Muslims have to step up their game they are getting outcompeted in the last two years.

Back on topic though, I would not be worried about an US intervention unless this complete escalates. The IDF has more than enough personell to deal with Gaza and US soldiers on the ground would only make it more complicated.
 
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