2023 Israel-Palestine Armed Conflict

Man a lot of shit that was being reported has turned out to be bullshit. There's some genuine photos and videos of civilians being killed by Hamas, why is Israel salting the legit shit with lies? What else has been bullshit? I know there's another lie about 40 babies being beheaded in a village of 800 that's going around neocon circles.

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Someone tag me when they start posting about the armoured rollercoasters of death division and the jew skin lamp making companies of Hamas that are moving to occupy and reopen Auschwitz.
 
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Damn those two women (allegedly festival goers) are extremely lucky talk about rescue in the last second. I don't think the full version of this Video was posted already. I guess, sometimes the police shows up in time.
WTF is happening in that video? The first guy is just a random Israeli citizen getting something from his trunk, who runs inside when he hears the Palestinians, right? So they chase him inside. Then two Israeli raver girls and a... Palestinian terrorist? come outside, and the girls eventually try to fit inside the trunk. And that guy is chasing them and trying to shoot them? Or he's with them and guarding them from those people up the road, who turn out to be friendly Israeli police?
 
I think you are assumuing everything is operating on the base level. "There are just two sides who need to work it out". Not that there are other entities operating above them that would like to see things continue. Who will persuade those leaders to act in their interests provided the right incentives.

I just mentioned Hamas killing it's own who didn't get with their program, it's obviously a lot more complicated than "2 sides". It's my understanding Hamas wants to stay in charge or at least keep what power they have, second to their primary goal they want to follow a holy war into destroying Israel. IMHO this conflict could go on for another 100 years and they wouldn't be any closer to that, but that's only my opinion. The Palestinians for whatever reason have been letting Hamas lead them, and especially as of recent lead them into total war. Juxtaposed with something like the united states, the US is currently in a proxy war with Ukraine Against Russia, many people want to just declare war and kick off total war, WW3 with Russia. IMHO the more sane people have opposed this, letting the quagmire of Ukraine drain Russia of resources, man power and eventually the public will turn on them not wanting to be drafted to die for some acquisition of old land. Unlike the U.S., the population the Palestinians either can't or won't deny Hamas's charge into a conflict that might just end up destroying what they have left of a country. You are going to have to be more clear, these "entities operating above" you're speaking about. Are you implying this conflict is a proxy war?
 
You are going to have to be more clear, these "entities operating above" you're speaking about. Are you implying this conflict is a proxy war?

The idea behind the Ukraine war was to inflitrate Russia and balkanize it. Once that was achieved, the US would then have the Western Border of China. However Putin realized this and struck pre-emptively. The media said the attack was unprovoked, but if you look back at even the US articles, the senators said they were determined to depose Putin.

Israel was always the arm of the US in the Middle East, or vice-versa, depending on who you think is in charge. The Senators openly said this "There is no America without Israel". The only thought I have, is once flattening Gaza, does Israel still claim the political capital as a victim? Will Israel allow the West Bank to attack? Or will now there be an attack within the US?

Now I'm just describing the second level.
 
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Just wanna share this hadith
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They need to start looking for that no-snitching tree
Abu Hurayra means Father of the Kitten; cats are considered clean and may enter mosques, even the Masjid Al-Haram, the great mosque of Mecca.
There are Jews, some Rabbis that believe establishing Israel without the mandate of Heaven is sacrilege and a betrayal to the ideals of Nationalism. But they have little money or power. So you'll not hear much if anything from them.
It's not nationalism, it's religious; this was a core teaching of the Satmar rebbe Yoel Teitelbaum who believed:
the founding of the modern State of Israel by secular and religious Jews, rather than the Moshiach, violated a Jewish commandment that Jews should wait for the Messiah. Moreover, Teitelbaum taught that the existence of the State of Israel was actually preventing the Messiah from coming.

This is also the belief of a smaller Haredi group called Neturei Karta, who oppose Zionism and call for a peaceful dismantling of the State of Israel, in the belief that Jews are forbidden to have their own state until the coming of the Jewish Messiah and that the state of Israel is a rebellion against God (these are the Hasidim you see protesting Israel in the media).

And now for the thing I warned y'all about regarding Israel going hard and this clusterfuck spiraling out of control:


The leader of the Houthi Ansar Allah movement , Abdul Malik Al-Houthi, announced (https://t.me/almayadeen/178853) the readiness of the Yemeni people to join the struggle of the Palestinian people. He added that US intervention would be a pretext for the Houthis to enter the conflict.​
It was quite obvious that the Houthi movement would speak out in support of Palestine - the Shiite allies of Iran and Hezbollah could not stay away from what was happening.​
True, Palestinians should definitely not expect military assistance from the Ansar Allah group now. Their position will be consistent with the wait-and-see (https://t.me/rybar/53032) approach of Iran and Hezbollah, unless something extraordinary happens.​
Given this state of affairs, the Houthis' missiles and drones could theoretically reach Israel. Just ask the royal family of Saudi Arabia. Link

I don't believe the Houthis are in any way on the same level as the IDF, but they've been in a constant state of war with South Yemen, US backed and equipped Saudi Arabia and some other Gulf states for several years, until very recently. They were able to launch missiles into Riyadh and hit targets. They also managed to bring down not one but two Saudi F-16s using old Soviet era weaponry. Dismiss them as stupid sandniggers in sandals and man dresses at your own peril.
 
Israeli drones fly over a number of Lebanese regions near the border with Israel
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Lebanese News Agency: Israeli bombing renewed at a more violent rate on the vicinity of border towns and the sounds of machine guns were heard
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Erdogan: Any war that depends on cutting off water, electricity, and roads, and destroying infrastructure, places of worship, and schools is called massacres
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President Erdoğan: "Everyone should stay away from impulsive decisions that aim to punish the Palestinian people altogether, such as cutting off humanitarian aid."
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President Erdoğan: "Israel should not forget that if it acts like an organization rather than a state, it will eventually start to be treated like an organization."
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/sigh! Not to derail, but your comment is the perfect example of why we need to be forever suspicious of the media and its motives.

"Sir Trips-a-lot". Is a media myth. Largely perpetuated by the media, particularly Saturday Night Live, to demean and poison public opinion of an elected official they did not like. The real Gerald Ford was our most Athletic President of the 20th Century. Maybe Teddy Roosevelt might give him competition. Ford was an athlete. A top tier football player. During WW2 he got swept iff the Carrier USS Monterey during Typhoon Cobra. He managed to snag the safety net with one hand, and haul himself back onto the deck in the middle of the worst category 5 storm ever seen. And then he ran below deck to lead a firefighting team, because the ship was on fire. Ford was many things, good and bad. But the one thing he wasn't in reality was clumsy. Thats purely a media fiction.
Hmmm....Interesting we need to be suspicious of all media twisting things. Your comment for example, you've taken some liberties there. Now you've presented Ford in an interesting light.

Gerald R. Ford was on watch from midnight to 4:00 a.m. Just before dawn General Quarters sounded. On his way to the bridge the ship rolled and Ford was almost swept overboard, but he caught his footing on a steel ridge around the edge of the flight deck and swung himself onto the catwalk below. Not exactly what you wrote, was it? You kind of made it dramatic...almost heroic.

He didn't lead a firefighting team either.

He was ordered by Captain Ingersoll to assess the fire raging on the hangar deck. He went down, observed the fire was being fought effectively by the damage control crews, and went back to report. On his way back up the heaving decks and stairways slick with rain, he slipped and nearly went overboard. He managed to stay abroad and report back to the captain that the fire was under control. There were LOTS of fire fighting teams on the ship in operation.

Much has been said about Ford’s contribution to save his ship. There are reports of his heroism, and he has, by his own admission, occasionally been given more credit than he deserves. At the reunion gathering in 1975, he had only this to say:

"Then, of course, the climax was the typhoon on December 18 and 19 of 1944. I can recall most intimately the coolness, the courage of the skipper. I happened to be on the bridge as the officer of the deck during general quarters, and we were in general quarters a long time."

Ford was where he was because of simple chance. He undoubtedly performed the task he had been ordered to do admirably, but to suggest he had fought the fires himself is stretching the truth a bit.

In reality, navy ships had dedicated damage control teams spread throughout the ship to fight fires, pump water, and other things. These were ably commanded by other officers and sprang into action the moment they were needed. Several present-day articles have embellished the story a bit. The officer of the deck is a stand-in for the captain, and in times of crisis (like battles or storms) the officer can be ordered to supervise operations of a certain part of the ship or to report on damage, as Ford did, among other things.

So when speaking of media liberties with lies, sure, they shouldn't, but you yourself are prone to embellishing like everyone else.
 
Lol no. Show me ONE Christian community on the ME that's gotten bigger post WW2? IT'S zero. That's because after the Jews, Christians are the Muslims favorite punching bag. Their women get taken away by Muslim men and converted, then all the kids are Muslim and no longer interact with the mothers family.

Christians have been systemically driven out of the entire ME for 50+ YEARS.

Go suck Arafat's cock elsewhere. Hamas and the PLO despise Christians, as does Hezzbullah.
I'm of the opinion that Muslims are completely incompatible with Western civilization, and would be happy to see them all removed from Europe tomorrow. I'm also not retarded and historically illiterate like so many of the foaming-at-the-mouth troglodytes that are constantly shitting up this thread. Many Christian communities in the Levant shrunk due to emigration (mostly due to economic distress). In countries like Lebanon, a lot of said economic distress was caused by Israeli-led military action and sanctions. More Christians than Muslims emmigrate because it is easier for them - they often have higher levels of education, and more of them have relatives living abroad who can help them get a foot in the door. But none of them fell to 20% of their previous portion of the population as they did in Israel.

The idea that Muslims want desperately to absorb and destroy all Christians is retarded. There wouldn't be any Christians left in the Middle East if that were the case - they were under Islamic rule for over 700 years since the end of the Crusades. Because of the tax structure of traditional Islamic polities, rulers would sometimes quietly disincentivize conversion because the taxes brought in from religious minorities were important to balancing the budget. I often see people who get their entire understanding of Middle Eastern history from a shitty Bat Ye'or book talk about how jizya was some horrifically oppressive tax. In some times and places, it was high compared to taxes like the zakat paid by Muslims and could be considered oppressive. But by necessity such high rates of taxation led to budgets which assumed high tax incomes from religious minorities - these leaders essentially became addicted to this revenue stream. It was a paradox that where the taxes were most oppressive, the pressure to convert to Islam was the highest - but at the same time the pressure on the area's rulers to balance the budget in this situation precluded large-scale conversions - it would have bankrupted the state treasury, leading to widespread unrest as this treasury was largely used to fund pensions and charitable programs which many Muslims relied upon. This lead to the most pious leaders often adopting a more reasonable jizya that was a bit higher than zakat, scaling with the income of the people in question. This applied some nominal conversion pressure without creating lopsided tax income situations. You just can't have it both ways historically, and anyone who thought critically about the matter and the incentives involved would be able to see that in a few minutes.

The idea that Hezbollah despises Christians is also particularly retarded. Lebanese politics are crazy complicated, with many Christian parties having allied directly with Hezbollah, and some still allying with them. There's a lot of internecine fighting among Christians, and stronger divides over things like a pro- or anti-Syrian stance than flat-out religious ones. The Strong Republic & Strong Lebanon blocs in the Lebanese Parliament are the two largest. They are both Christian blocs, and they are opposed to one another - one is allied with Hezbollah, the other is opposed to them. As for Palestinian Christians, recent polling has been done on this subject. Among the concerns driving emigration, perceived hostility from Muslims is one of the least common. Meanwhile, over 80% expressed concern about attacks from Jewish settlers, discrimination by the occupation government, or being outright expelled by the Israelis. 62% believe that it is Israel's goal to expel Christians from the Holy Lands, while 43% feel that Muslims don't want them in Palestine. By every metric, Israel is by far the worst offender.

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Oh no! Not far-right and populist content! They're really freaking out about losing their propaganda machine.

From the German Anti-Discrimination Agency (Die Antidiskriminierungsstelle des Bundes):
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We have decided to leave X. (Thread)

With the enormous rise in trans and queer hostility, racism, misogyny, anti-Semitism, and other misanthropic content, we believe X is no longer a sustainable environment for the profile of a public body.

There is also the question of which target groups can still be reached via X. Also, the number of hate comments has risen so massively that we can only counter this with a high level of staffing it is questionable whether this can still be justified with tax funds.

Hate speech and disinformation have increased, especially after the change of ownership and mass layoffs at Twitter Elon Musk has dropped out of the voluntary EU agreement to combat disinformation on the Internet. This suggests that the will to counter disinformation is lacking.

Previously blocked far-right accounts were unblocked and the verification system commercialized so-called troll factories spreading pro-Russian propaganda have also apparently bought verification ticks to increase their reach and influence debates. Since then, it has become almost impossible to distinguish serious from non-serious sources.

More than 160 rabbis and representatives of Jewish organizations recently called for a boycott of the platform: "X has become a breeding ground for anti-Semitism and represents one of the greatest dangers for Jews in years. If something doesn't change, we know what will happen: Hate speech and radicalization are always the precursor to violence."

As a state institution, the Anti-Discrimination Agency has a role model function. Therefore, remaining on X is no longer justifiable for us all ministries and other public bodies should ask themselves whether it is still acceptable to remain on a platform that has become a disinformation network and whose owner spreads anti-Semitic, racist and populist content.
 
Man a lot of shit that was being reported has turned out to be bullshit. There's some genuine photos and videos of civilians being killed by Hamas, why is Israel salting the legit shit with lies? What else has been bullshit? I know there's another lie about 40 babies being beheaded in a village of 800 that's going around neocon circles.

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Right because "Readers added context" means THAT'S the truth.

I'll admit that footage with the blue painted walls always seemed sketchy and looke more like South America. But that story of a pregnant woman is just silly regardless whether it was supposed to have happened now or back in 82.

Let's all just agree that this isn't Brazil or Mexico and the ultra brutal sicko shit is most likely made up.
 
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Why are there so many Thai dead and hostages? Just laborers or is there some secret sect of Thai Judaism I didn't know about?
They were Thai labourers/farmers working in Israel.
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>Be Thai
>Earn shekel for GRS and HRT
>Plough soil and pluck fruit for Avivshalom Shekelsteinbergwitz
>Habibi yallalalalah kill kikes :biggrin: :biggrin:
>Now in some weird dungeon
>Habibi won't even use correct pronouns
You are here.

An awful number of Nepalese citizens too. I guess they're labourers too.

The Chinese citizen abducted was a Chinese-Jewish hapa who attended the rave and was studying in Israel.
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The CPC seems to be content with playing the role of a centrist here. Sick and dimwitted.
“China is deeply concerned over the current escalation of tensions and violence between Palestine and Israel,” a spokesperson said. “We call on relevant parties to remain calm, exercise restraint and immediately end the hostilities to protect civilians and avoid further deterioration of the situation.”

The statement also mentioned the “two-state solution”, which did not go down well in Israel. “We hope China can offer support for Israel at this difficult time,” said the Israeli embassy in Beijing on X (ex-Twitter).
It's so infuriating, if the Hui or Uyghurs radicals went to some rave and slaughtered over 200 people... actually forget it. If this does happen, the "international community" would state the same pussified rubbish as China.
Still not excusable, how hard is it to condemn terrorists? I don't see any gain in two-state talk, it's never happening. Hamas is democratically elected.

Actually, I'll try to dig up some Chinese news articles to see what the party thinks. So far, I've only seen ricecels chant Hamas on because apparently Israel is the big bad US of A so killing a bunch of civilians is based.
Also, she's a hapa and East Asians hate hapas.
 
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Lol. Nothing of value was lost. It's funny. Since lefties have lost their total grip over the media and can't have their safe spaces anymore they can't handle the reality. First they tried to migrate to Mastodon but that has failed since it's too de-centralized and no one really cares. You can't reach masses with that. Now they've flocked to Bluesky which is an even bigger echo chamber because it's invite only.

From what I've heard the lack of Nazis and Fascists to yell at and snitch about and persecute has made those faggots turn on each other (as it always has been with left wing revolutions).
 
Syrians in Tartous stage a protest in support of Gaza, raising both Syrian and Palestinian flags in the presence of Bachar Al-Assad portraits.
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One of the most notable and dominant Israeli UAS currently in service is the Hermes 450 MALE UAV. Through the years, the UAV participated in several armed conflicts including Lebanon, Gaza, Georgia, and recently Azerbaijan.

This is an Introduction of the Hermes 450 UAV.
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