2023 Israel-Palestine Armed Conflict

Missiles (or bombs as someone corrected) being prepped
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Uncle Buck said:
With regard to: https://kiwifarms.st/attachments/map-kushner-2020-4-jpg.5406673/, the actual compromise which reflected the then-current demographics of the region [which, of course, included many non-native Arab migrants with no tie to area] was actually the 1922 partition of the original Mandate for Palestine into an approximately 78% "Arab" state [known as "Arab Palestine", later "Transjordan" and, finally, the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan] and a 22% "Jewish" Palestine later to become the State of Israel.
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I'll be pithy, but you've cherry picked various sentences here to suggest I'm 100% pro-Palestine and think Israel should have just caved to every single one of their demands, which I absolutely don't. It would have been insane to allow the wholesale "right of return" to the Palestinian people for the exact reasons you outline.

I'm completely aware that the 1947 partition plan was not the only partition plan that ever existed. You do, however, miss the point where the League of Nations plan never was supposed to represent a Jewish controlled state and an Arab controlled state but the British Mandates, that would be administered directly by Britain. Churchill drew a line down the Jordan Valley to let King Abdullah act as their puppet emir in TransJordan, since the UK had backstabbed the Arabs and didn't want Abdullah joining up with Mandatory Iraq since he'd been kicked out of French Mandatory Syria. The British Mandate of Palestine was made with the proviso that it would help establish a Jewish homeland, but it was not signed off as "the homeland is only for the Jews", because as you observe, there were Jews and Muslims and Christians living there side by side. The 1948 UN partition plan was instead examining how the lands of Israel could be divided to become self-administering.

There's various other complicating factors at play here. I don't think Israel should have been established as a Jewish homeland in the way it was because most of the Ashkenazim hadn't lived there for centuries and centuries (we're dealing with people who cite the actions of the Roman Empire as part of their claim, that's so long ago as to be irrelevant to literally everyone else on Earth) while the "migratory Arabs" had lived there continuously for centuries (and there were also obviously non-migratory Arabs present) but then there's further complicating factors like the fact the Mizrahi Jews who'd lived in various Arab states surrounding Israel continually for countless centuries were driven from their homes and had to seek shelter in Israel, so obviously now Israel needs to exist and caving to the Palestinian demands will completely eradicate Israel's ability to exist.

Nevertheless, many in Israel would concede a long term goal to ethnically cleanse Gaza and the West Bank, and I've heard a surprising number of Israelis argue that by rights they should also have control of most or all of Jordan and they want to force all the Arabs out of there, because they're entitled to Eretz Israel and Jordan is a fake country invented by the British and with a foreign ruling dynasty and so does not have legitimacy as a country so gib Jews now. Unsurprisingly the entire thing is a giant clusterfuck and anyone who's 100% for Israel or 100% for Palestine is someone I'm suspicious of. Although I think you're conceding that some concessions need to be made to the extant Palestinians so I wouldn't necessarily include you in that umbrella, I just think your comment was kneejerk and reactionary and made a lot of assumptions about my perspective. Although then again, we're on this website, so that's sometimes what we're here to do.
 
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The Hotel Association Pokhara Nepal (???) has expressed sorrow over the tragic death of ten Nepalis in Israel as due to of a Hamas attack.


Nepal and Israel have been established diplomatic relations for more than six decades. Therefore, while asking the Israeli government to be serious about the security of the Nepalis in Israel, the association has also requested the Nepali people not to visit Israel personally.
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Does anyone have context for this? I assume the Nepalis were employed by the hotel association?
 
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This is completely irresponsible, plenty of kids can read! Now they'll go around spouting off the heinous antisemitic lie that it was 40 babies beheaded by Hamas, when it was actually 4000 each day of the conflict so far! They get the babies all in a great line, and make them behead the baby in front of them with a Fisher Price scimitar! The last baby, #4001, is freed to tell of Hamas' exploits. It sounds too farfetched to be true, but I saw it with my own eyes. Hamas' cruelty and subhuman barbarism cannot be understated.
 
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MMS-China said:
France won't deport the Muslim rapists, but they will deport you if you show support for Hamas.

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So apparently you can be anything but antisemitic now? I guess we find out the Jews are at the top of the pyramid in terms of being “oppressed” despite being wealthier and more influential than any other minority group.
 
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Ambush in Berlin.


As police officers are on their way to burning trash containers at Theodor Wolff Park, they are suddenly pelted with Molotov cocktails. In addition, the attackers shout "Islamist exclamations".

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Task forces of the Berlin police have been pelted with Molotov cocktails by hooded men in the night to Thursday. As they fled, the attackers allegedly made "Islamist calls," according to police on Thursday. The men, who reportedly masked themselves with tube scarves, are said to have shouted "Allahu akbar," meaning "God is great."

Around 1 o'clock, three officers were in a patrol car on the Friedrichstraße on the way, reason was a burning garbage container. At the height of Franz-Klühs-Strasse, the officers noticed a group of eight to ten people who fled on foot in the direction of Mehringplatz.

Two people from the group are then said to have thrown two Molotov cocktails - that is, homemade throwing incendiary devices - in the direction of the patrol car. However, the throwing incendiary devices missed the patrol car, moreover, they did not ignite on impact. Then "Allahu akbar" was shouted. The fire department then extinguished the total of four burning trash cans. The State Security Service at the State Criminal Police Office, which is responsible for politically motivated acts, has taken over the investigation.
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So it begins. That's a step above the usual new year's eve riots in Berlin that kinda look like a warzone too.

e: Okay let's be real that's nothing compared to banlieues or Sweden. But it's a sign of things to come.
 
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Breadbassket said:
Has anyone archived any footage or audio of the Gaza stream rooster? Given the current state of things, it could meet an untimely death at any moment.
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you could youtubedl the older streams probably
this one had some closer to the mic probably ten minutes ago (ish?)
 
MMS-China said:
I would say. Best of luck to you.

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Yeah the difference however is the ass raping in the US military is not mandatory
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Oh cool, I have a video, too.

This one is about how China’s UN peacekeepers in Sudan got caught in some minor crossfire, not even directly attacked, and spent the rest of their rotation hiding in their base and refusing to do patrols outside of an APC

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This is simply just a more modernized version of cadences
 
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Some news from the Caliphate down under.

An anchor called "Sarah Abo :story:" interviewed the leader of the Australian Palestine Advocacy Network, whose sites are protected by Cloudflare.
They organised the protests where people were chanting "GASS DA JOOZ" and "KILL DA JOOZ".
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The leader of this organisation is coping.
The head of a Palestinian group in Australia has implied vision of protesters chanting “gas the Jews” outside the Opera House might not be authentic.
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“I’m not condoning those images,” Mr Mashni said of the protest.
“But as to the veracity of what was on those tapes, I’ve been advised by another senior journalist [that] nobody has been able to verify the veracity of that audio.”
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Instead of coping about the recorded video, he should have just went with this.
“They were the same protests. The reality of people coming together to express concerns about situations is that, at times, unwanted people come along and provoke unnecessary and unwanted actions. Violence is never going to be an answer as is anti-Semitism is never the answer.”
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What does this even mean?
Mr Mashni claimed “the West” was engaged in “manufacturing consent for genocide” and raised several examples of Israeli politicians making pointed comments about Palestine this week.
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“What’s also unacceptable is the police telling Jewish Australians they can’t attend the Opera House based on some Islamophobic construct that supporters of Palestine are Muslim. Jesus, the most famous Palestinian was a Christian.
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I actually agree with him on this one. Let them have their protests. The pigs are denying us kino. Better yet, have a pro-Israel one nearby too. The smart Jews would just hide in their St Ives mansions while the hooligans can have an entertaining brawl for the benefit of us all.
So far, the pigs only arrested one Jewish guy carrying an Israel flag for whatever retarded reason. What a nannystate.

Peter Dutton wants non-citizen participants of that Opera House rally to be deported, lol.
Mr Dutton said the hatred-fuelled events of the protest were a distorted reflection of the country’s cultural, religious and ethnic outlook and urged the federal government to hit back by wholly uprooting those who participated from Australian society.
“The scenes we saw at the Opera House will be scenes that go down in our country’s history. I don’t think we should underestimate how significantly they’ve been interpreted overseas,” he told 2GB Radio on Thursday.
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A Holocaust Museum in the Arab Republic of Adelaide is whining.
Adelaide’s Jewish Holocaust Museum says SA Police has been unresponsive to requests for extra protection ahead of Sunday’s pro-Palestinian rally.
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The rally which is being organised by Students for Palestine and Adelaide Campaign Against Racism and Fascism, will see pro-Palestinian protesters gather outside state parliament to “demand Australia cut ties with Israel.”
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>Against racism and fascism
I don't know man, wanting to gas Jews is pretty racist and kicking down doors to kill civilians is worse than the fascists.

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Never let a good crisis go to waste, everyone's taking it as an opportunity to push their angle.
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These Chink xxx channels are as bad as CCTV.
If China did infiltrate Israel, Gaza would be a nuclear wasteland by now.
Or we'd see re-education camps teaching Hamas terrorists how to make Xiaomi phones.
 
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