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Fat Acceptance Movement / Fat Girlcows
- Thread starter AtroposHeart
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It's sad seeing little Evie as a normal-sized child. Then, by about age eight, she's fattening up, and as a young adult she's fucking IMMENSE.
"Our Dream is Luxury"
And you can keep on dreaming...
"High-end, responsive service for the entirety of your stay"
That requires staff. Lots of staff (luxury resorts have a high staff-to-guest ratio). Staff who are already skilled, and know how to deliver a luxury experience. Staff who are happy to wait hand and foot on even the largest, most disgusting deathfats, without ever slipping up and committing a single fatphobic sin. Staff who are willing to live in a lovely, but isolated valley in West Virginia where quality housing, shopping, and entertainment are in short supply.
Where is this staff going to live, gorls? What is the rental market like in the area? Is the available housing of generally good quality, as well as affordable? If not, where do you expect them to live? Are you going to include dorms in your building plan? If so, how many skilled adults who have other employment options do you imagine are going to do that for more than a season?
What are the locals going to think of you when you hire all of your staff—except for the least-skilled, lowest-paid positions—from outside the Canaan Valley?
"Top-quality, luxury accommodations in your room"
Which will cost a fortune to build with deathfat accessibility in mind, assuming you can find a general contractor capable of building to high-end standards who is willing to take the job. There isn't one in the Canaan Valley, or anywhere else nearby, which means hiring an outside contractor who will have to import a lot of the expertise and labor from elsewhere—costs they will pass on to you, as well as the costs of hauling specialty materials, fixtures and finishes all the way to the jobsite.
If you were building a normal, rustic sort of Fat Camp place, you could do it all with local labor—but not what you're imagining. And importing labor from elsewhere is just going to piss a lot of the locals—something you're either hellbound and determined to do because you see them as filthy, Trump-loving deplorables, or else you're so clueless you don't even realize how important it is to put your money into locals' pockets and cultivate good relationships with them whenever you possibly can. I'll be charitable and assume it's the latter.
"World-class spa amenities that are accessible to fat and disabled people."
Yeah, once they've made the three-hour-plus drive from the nearest major airport. And I've previously touched on how the accessibility needs of disabled (but not fat) guests are not automatically going to be well-served at a place that is built to cater to the needs of deathfats. Maybe you're saying that the amenities are meant to be for people who are both deathfats and disabled? You should make that clear.
But again—how the fuck are you going to get these fat, disabled people, who already have a terrible time of it when traveling at all, to your isolated luxury resort? Do you really imagine you'll have a steady stream of hugely fat people, many of them disabled, who are willing to get on at least one flight, then rent a suitable car to drive more than three hours to get there and back? This is the part that just baffles me to no end, how you can't see that this is a huge problem. That, and catering to a medically fragile clientele in a place with limited access to emergency medical care. What the fuck.
Seriously, what planet are they on, to be this out of touch with reality? There's got to be a huge trust fund and a smotheringly sheltered upbringing at work here, because that's the only way I can see someone thinking that this is in any way a viable project.
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I suspect that this is a Black Hammer style grift/con. The centre of it is a grandiose narcissist con artist, with close orbiters who sort of know what's going but not quite, and a large (boom tish) amount of gullible morons who think that throwing money at something is all that's needed to make it happen.
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I kind of hope it does open, so we can see the Lovecraftian horrors that emerge from it on video.
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The problem I have with that is there isn't enough money in it to make it worthwhile. There's a bunch of fats (including Ash) hurpling onboard this project who have established positions within the FatLib community, and are able to make at least part of their livings by pandering to their community. If this does turn out to be a scam, their association with it will ruin them. So, unless evidence that it's a scam turns up, for now I'm going to assume this is being done in good faith.
Who is going to donate to this project, and how much? Those who can already afford to go, in the unlikely event it opens, and those who, if they scrimp and save, might be able to go once. Those will be the great majority of donors—but they have to be clueless enough to believe it could happen. The poors, and anybody who has no hope of ever going, even with a subsidized stay, won't, beyond maybe a trickle of $5 donations to show allegiance to the cause. And then there's anyone who is smart/knowledgeable enough to see reasons why this is a non-starter.
The only way this thing will get built is if there's a very large trust fund or inheritance capable of backing the entire project behind it, and the fundraiser is only being done to create a sense of investment within the FatLib community and promote the spa. Launching big fundraising campaigns for projects that are already fully fundable happens a lot in nonprofits for this reason, and while this will be a for-profit venture, the same thing could be going on.
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Another little tidbit: bariatric doors, locks, and hardware are more expensive to buy, install and get up to code than standard ones. Presumably every door in this place would need to be a bariatric power door like the ones they have in hospital wards.
thejackal2
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Zoe is doing more youtube. Good, she's a burgeoning deathfat cow.
Does she really think that little mark on her face is cancer and not uh, a reaction to the fillers she's filled her bloated face with? Kids running around feral in the background is a bonus. What's she so tired from? Shooting tik toks?
Does she really think that little mark on her face is cancer and not uh, a reaction to the fillers she's filled her bloated face with? Kids running around feral in the background is a bonus. What's she so tired from? Shooting tik toks?
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She's officially a fat kid in the picture where she's hugging her grandfather, and unhealthily chubby in the one immmediately before. There were only a few children who looked like that at the primary school attached to my school in the 90s, unless I was too drunk of a teenager to be remembering this correctly.
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Gramps is thinkin "This fat bitch has eaten more food then Ireland had in the 20s."
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Spa had their Q & A:
Evie:
Bonus pic from Ash's IG:
- They believe they will get funding via corporate events. Ask attendees to pay extra for an "accessibility fund" to help others. They will be event focused people can't just come and stay. Oh but you also can book your own events like a girls weekend and such. Get married there. Have a family reunion. They are planning to be a resort with a pool and amenities. Except for spa spa is extra. Different lodgings small group rooms (6 beds); private rooms.Cheapest would be large bedding room with people you do not know.
- "If its comfortable for us it will be comfortable for everyone"
- Accessibility Concierge
- Mobility aid lending library
- Robust hiring process and training to make sure there is no internalized racism, fatphobia, etc.
- Crowdfunding admits no where close to breaking ground they have no place for it yet. they want investors and business advisors state they have to prove its sustainable.
- They are crowdfunding knowing that nothing tangible exists to try to get investors to want them. They have no investors yet or anything this is all a pipe dream.
Evie:
Bonus pic from Ash's IG:
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The location you picked isn't even accessible lmao
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This part alone screams scam.
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Considering the financial advsior is fat lip ash who has scammed 2 or 3 gofundme's already and did not even do the projects beyond a month. It almost certainly is a scam.
FarmVille
kiwifarms.net
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I dont think it’s a scam, I think they have fat for brains and in their home-bound hive they genuinely think there is interest in this
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This is genius and there is no chance it will fail! As people get more and more used to working from their house, I am sure there will be a long queue of companies with a significant number of staff that are morbidly obese and that is willing to have in-person corporate events in the middle of nowhere, a flight + long bus/taxi ride away (not like conference hotels tend to be near airports for a reason...)
Modest proposal: try to make Eugenia Cooney transport a bariatric wheelchair or other bariatric, heavy-duty mobility aids
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Have you seen Fat Camp? It sounds like the same idea, in theory.
Only Corissa makes one fatty pay to sleep on a couch, and one on the bed.
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I know Ash has been sketchy about delivering on crowdfunded projects, and can't be considered reliable, but Laura Burns strikes me as totally sincere in her desire to make it all happen. It's an utterly unworkable desire that she's waddling into with a breathtaking level of childish cluelessness and reality-denial, but I think she's on the level.
That said, she's @radicalbodylove on Insta, and has a YouTube channel. And man, she's a trip. It has got to be exhausting, living in her head.
She's 41, has PCOS and IBS, and claims a history of eating disorders (including anorexia-while-still-fat) and compulsive overexercising. In October 2021, she got diagnosed with diabetes (HbA1c 10.5) because Covid, and went on Ozempic, which she discusses in an hour-long video:
I'm only about 20 minutes into it, and so far have heard all about her boundaries and what comments are triggering and not welcome, and how she's a real anorexic despite always having been fat, and her repeated medical trauma (from being told she's fat and needs to lose weight).
She's a fucking mess, and 90% of her stress comes from trying to evade the reality that it's her obesity that is damaging her health, and defend her belief that being in a fat body is totally okay and that it's stupid, fatphobic doctors who make her life terrible.
At 25 minutes in, she's talking about the horrible doctor who didn't belive her and treated her rudely and made her feel UNSAFE, while pushing Ozempic on her because it would make her lose weight. She never saw that horrible doctor again, but she took the Ozempic anyway, despite worrying that it might trigger her IBS—because choosing a low-carb diet is too triggering, and it's better to take a drug that she doesn't fully know the potential effects of.
The loss of appetite was triggering to her. She's done "so much work" over the years to solve her issues around food and allow her to eat sugary and fatty things with impunity, and the appetite loss was too much like her fattyrexic days and made her anxious.
And then she goes into a lot of talk about what a good fatty she is who loves walking on the treadmill and eats a PCOS diet her business partner has concocted, and I'll bet she's triggered the fuck out of a bunch of deathfats with it, but is totally unaware of it, because she's way up her own ass. And I've had enough of her rambling, so I'm noping out. I can't archive it on my phone, but anybody who wants to, go for it. But she's fucking crazy and self-absorbed and I'm done, because it makes me tired and annoyed just listening to her.
I'm only about 20 minutes into it, and so far have heard all about her boundaries and what comments are triggering and not welcome, and how she's a real anorexic despite always having been fat, and her repeated medical trauma (from being told she's fat and needs to lose weight).
She's a fucking mess, and 90% of her stress comes from trying to evade the reality that it's her obesity that is damaging her health, and defend her belief that being in a fat body is totally okay and that it's stupid, fatphobic doctors who make her life terrible.
At 25 minutes in, she's talking about the horrible doctor who didn't belive her and treated her rudely and made her feel UNSAFE, while pushing Ozempic on her because it would make her lose weight. She never saw that horrible doctor again, but she took the Ozempic anyway, despite worrying that it might trigger her IBS—because choosing a low-carb diet is too triggering, and it's better to take a drug that she doesn't fully know the potential effects of.
The loss of appetite was triggering to her. She's done "so much work" over the years to solve her issues around food and allow her to eat sugary and fatty things with impunity, and the appetite loss was too much like her fattyrexic days and made her anxious.
And then she goes into a lot of talk about what a good fatty she is who loves walking on the treadmill and eats a PCOS diet her business partner has concocted, and I'll bet she's triggered the fuck out of a bunch of deathfats with it, but is totally unaware of it, because she's way up her own ass. And I've had enough of her rambling, so I'm noping out. I can't archive it on my phone, but anybody who wants to, go for it. But she's fucking crazy and self-absorbed and I'm done, because it makes me tired and annoyed just listening to her.
Anyway, it's worth noting how little traction the Appalachian's Insta is getting—most posts still have only a handful of likes, at most. For a project that she's so certain there is an established need for, and that the fat and disabled communites really want and will show up for, they're sure not showing up for it.
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Yea thats what makes Ash even worse I think shes trusting Ash as a finanical advisor and all these others its like a kid telling you how when he grows up hes gonna run the north pole or something.
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