2023 Israel-Palestine Armed Conflict

Holy shit I hope this is true. Absolute dumb motherfuckers. Niggos in Africa are smarter than this and have more of a survival instinct than these morons. Also, them hostages be dead n' shieet.
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It's real. Hostages also really dead.
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Has to suck to be a Palestinian kid whose parents care more about feeling morally right than getting your ass out of the area Israel declared they're going to bomb.
 
God damn though what a depressing land to live in.
Nothing but god damn sand, sand sand sand sand sand.....and more sand.
No enchanting forrests....no beutiful fields of flowers and green. Its just fucking sand and stones. No wonder people down there kill eachother, that really cant be well for the mental state.

God damn i love scandinavia, just that half dead pine tree behind the gas station gives more incentive to keep living and loving life than the entire middle east. Just that half dead ugly fucking tree is better than everyghing they got down there. Is there even some god damn rivers down there just to cut off and give SOMETHING else than fucking saaaaaaaand?

Oh glorious scandinavia, how i love thee.
There's some very beautiful parts of Israel. It's not just desert.
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It's not going to look like a Scandinavian pine forest, because it's a Mediterranean climate. You're only really seeing Southern Israel because that's where the conflicts are. This is part of the reason the Palestinian Arabs weren't super thrilled by the land they ended up with (yeah it was partially their fault) since all the good arable land etc tends to be Israeli.
 
If anything, we should be following Hamas's example here. Turn that 41% into 99% and a significant part of the Anti-West movement goes away.
Haven't they more or less normalized ties with Israel?
Arab-Jew relations can always backslide. Which is why the Jews should have built their country in Utah instead. But since they committed to the profoundly tragic decision to live in Israel, they're stuck having to deal with the real-politick of four different countries that would invade if they had the ability. They currently don't, which is why they're staying out of this particular fight.
Hamas opposing people leaving makes sense, on some level. One way or another Israel is going to ethnically cleanse the area, ensuring that its future is for jewish settlers only. Leaving means the people abandoning everything they have, while Israel quickly takes what they want, while staying means Israel will have to justify killing 2 million people in retaliation for 250.
If I had to be the Israeli Press Secretary, here are my talking points:

1. Hamas is not a signatory to the Geneva Conventions. They do not even try to put on uniforms or take POWs. They prefer to execute them like halal meat. If possible, I would post uncensored photos and videos from Hamas's website.
2. Hamas are using modern military weapons such as anti-tank drones and air defense rockets.
3. Hamas continue to use civilian buildings to protect their military assets to manipulate gullible journalists and human rights advocates.
4. Hamas's charter calls for the destruction of Israel. They then commit acts to kill non-Palestinians. They propagandize their children to kill. Show the video of Assoud the Rabbit and other such obvious propaganda.

Therefore, everyone in the Gaza Strip is an enemy combatant.

I would not talk about Iran at this time to allow them plausible deniability by saying that Iran's suspected involvement is under investigation. No point in starting another war until this one is finished.
 
There is no such thing as Palestine and anyone using it as a proper noun is super fake and gay

There are the Gaza Strip and the West Bank. Not Palestine. I've really noticed this over the last week people saying Palestine Palestine Palestine like if they name it like it is a real country then oh well I guess it is a real country now

It isn't
btw Supah Israel spergs do this too, calling the West Bank Judaea and Samaria. Okay fine yes there were regions called that in the past that roughly correspond to the modern borders of the West Bank, but guess what. It's the West Bank. Not Judaea and Samaria anymore. Get over it
 
There's some very beautiful parts of Israel. It's not just desert.
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It's not going to look like a Scandinavian pine forest, because it's a Mediterranean climate. You're only really seeing Southern Israel because that's where the conflicts are. This is part of the reason the Palestinian Arabs weren't super thrilled by the land they ended up with (yeah it was partially their fault) since all the good arable land etc tends to be Israeli.
Is that second one the Sea of Galilee?
 
There is no such thing as Palestine and anyone using it as a proper noun is super fake and gay

There are the Gaza Strip and the West Bank. Not Palestine. I've really noticed this over the last week people saying Palestine Palestine Palestine like if they name it like it is a real country then oh well I guess it is a real country now

It isn't
What's the point of this comment? Do you want to pick a name off this map
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or do you want us to call the non-Israel area (or the concept of an Arab state in the area) Canaan? Because "Israel" is as recent an invention as "Palestine" and "Jordan", based off very historic names for the area, which also don't reflect contemporary borders

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Hamas opposing people leaving makes sense, on some level. One way or another Israel is going to ethnically cleanse the area, ensuring that its future is for jewish settlers only. Leaving means the people abandoning everything they have, while Israel quickly takes what they want, while staying means Israel will have to justify killing 2 million people in retaliation for 250.
I'd say Hamas is opposing people leaving, because with everyone gone, they won't have any meatshields to use for "see how Israel kills civilians" PR points.
 
What's the point of this comment? Do you want to pick a name off this map
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or do you want us to call the non-Israel area (or the concept of an Arab state in the area) Canaan? Because "Israel" is as recent an invention as "Palestine" and "Jordan", based off very historic names for the area, which also don't reflect contemporary borders

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Because people are being fake and gay, it offends my sense of propriety

Also it seems to have upset you so that's always a bonus when someone gets upset

Palestine in the way people use the word now in this context is not real, it's fake and gay silly, and I enjoy saying so. Any other questions?
 
Sure, there’s at least A globohomo cabal.
no. it is not a conspiratorial agreement of a select few powerful people.
it is a set of people independently coming to the same conclusions and working towards the same goal because they share the same worldview. they are not actively conspiring and coordinating with one another, they don't need to, because they already think alike and desire the same things.

you are not up against a group of people. you are up against an ideology, against a worldview, a way of thinking.
 
Is that second one the Sea of Galilee?
Yep! The first photo is from the Birya forest, nearish Galilee too. That last one is Beit Yanai, which is on the Mediterranean coast south of Haifa. I spent a wonderful summer in Israel when I was young. I also separately visited Jordan and Lebanon and they were beautiful too, but that was on a different passport.

People already mentioned in the thread that the climate there changed since Biblical times (also why the Shah of Iran planted a temporary forest around the ruins of Persepolis in the desert for his party) - you can see why the Israelites saw it as the land of milk and honey if the whole area used to be like that.
 
I do get this part, but also they aren’t going to spam graphic dead infant photos to pacify all the conspiracy theorists, especially when we all know that nothing they ever release will actually stop or change the mind of every schizoposter. If they do post tons of photos, it’s just “obviously AI or photoshop”. If they give a list of names, it’s just “those are made up”. If there’s crying parents on CNN, it’s just “crisis actors”. If they literally filmed Hamas slaughtering infants, there would still be some weirdos out there saying “this could be deepfaked CGI shit” or “and how do we know that baby is Israeli and this isn’t an old video of something else?”. There’s no amount of proof that could actually convince and quiet every last conspiracy theorist. It’s kind of a losing effort either way, so I don’t think it’s really worth further traumatizing the families of dead babies by spreading pics of the bloodied corpses all over the internet.

That said, I get your point and have zero trust in any government. I just don’t know how, at this point, they could ever regain our trust completely and provide any proof that would be universally believed. So is there really any point?
This is kinda why conspiracy theorists are part of the problem with government transparency. They are so irrational that, like you say, nothing will satisfy them, so normal, reasonable people who don't obsess over this stuff will just say, regardless of whether or not what the government is putting out is true, "Those conspiracy theorists are being screeching autists, why would I ever side with them?" I also have no faith in the conspiracy theorists (despite the "EVERY CONSPIRACY THEORY FROM THE LAST 20 YEARS HAS PROVEN TRUE" cry with stuff coming out about COVID and whatnot, but, again, REASONABLE people were calling that out, including American senators and medical doctors) because they all ate up the entirety of the alien stuff the government put out a few months ago to distract from Hunter Biden. They have the most confirmation bias of any group. You can tell the average age and IQ of posters in this thread by how irrationally angry they are at Israel.

P.S.: If "JEWS CONTROL EVERYTHING", why is it that literally every college in the US (a country with only a 1% Muslim population) is holding humongous pro-Palestinian/Hamas rallies with impunity as rich Jews pull donations from schools left and right?

Why the fuck would Muslims want to live in Germany? It's like the land of pork and alcohol, aren't they Haram?
When I lived in a communal dorm in Germany, I specifically made a point to buy as much pork as possible to keep my savage mudslime floormates from using my refrigerator.
 
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I do get this part, but also they aren’t going to spam graphic dead infant photos to pacify all the conspiracy theorists
they won't post proof because it doesn't exist, because it never happened, just like the belgian babies on bayonettes, the babies thrown out of the incubators, and the "moderate" beheaders being gassed to death by assad.
 
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