2023 Israel-Palestine Armed Conflict

When muslims attacked Charlie Hebdo, all the white, blue hair cunts and cuck liberals said was #notallmuslims.
When muslims drove trucks down the street in germany and france, running over civilians, all those liberal monkeys said "religion of peace, don't hate on muslims. Not all muslims aigh?"
But now that the targets aren't europeans, now that the targets are the jews, all the media wants is for every Arab living in Palestine to be fucking erased because they are responsible for hamas.
You'd think that with all this crying about unpunished terror attacks committed by muzzies that you'd be all for seeing a Muslim stronghold getting razed to the ground.

Weird how retribution for a terror attack is only a problem to you when Jews are the ones doing the retaliating. It's almost like the terror attacks in question aren't even an object of concern for you and you'd prefer it if the Jews were getting the genocide instead.

Could you be any more transparent?
 
Oh man, if only Israel even gave a fuck about the hostages and wasn't just blindly firing at every single civilian building that they fancy probably killing the precious hostages in the process.
Can only imagine how many of those hostages are already dead, no thanks to shit skin muslims but thanks to kikes sperging and bombing the shit out of everything.

It's kinda funny seeing their human shield strategy literally go up in smoke against an enemy they apparently forgot don't play by international standards and governances.
 
This thread is completely taken over by JIDF and assorted hasbara shills, trying to reason with them is pointless. The only solution to this problem is the final solution, but for real this time
I'm sure if you keep it up slobbermutt is going to implement his final solution to the /pol/ question.
 
> be minority citizen in first world country
> enjoy all of the rights of the native/host/majority/dominant/etc population (indisputably at least on paper), with many perks and leg-up schemes granted by the majority population
> look at country where the darker-skinned group A is locked into what is essentially an inescapable blood pact with the lighter-skinned group B, with both groups slowly orbiting around the black hole, nudging closer to the cliff edge every time round
> the only question at this point is who is going to push who into oblivion first
> group B is infinitely more technologically advanced and the very continued existence of group A in any 24-hour time window is wholly at the whim and discretion of group B
> see group B massacre, rape, and burn a village of group B
> that's all it takes to say "damn, I've got to get me some of that"

Would be funny if it weren't so tragic. And common, apparently.
Black people cant even feed themselves in Africa, they would starve to death even if they managed to “decolonize” America.
 
You are retarded. they were dead the moment they were taken hostage by inbred sandniggers whos only goal in life is to kill kikes. what would they negotiate with? land? captured hamas members? more rockets?
in a situation like this your only option is to assume the hostages are good as dead, because negotiating with the people that just killed 250 festivel goers and hundreds of civilians makes you look weak as shit and is opening the door for them to do it again & ask for whatever the fuck they want.
it sounds cruel to say, but i think it was definitely a mistake to agree to that prisoner exchange for gilad shalit back in the day. not only was it a horrible deal (trade one soldier for a thousand prisoners) but it set a terrible precedent with the message it sent to hamas (kidnapping and blackmailing works and is extremely profitable)
 
you sure about that? ww2 thailand was a semi fascist military dictatorship ruled by general phibunsongkram and an ally of japan
I'll have to actual sources on Thailand, but Japan themselves had a diplomat, Chiune Sugihara, who helped give transit visas so Jews could pass through Japanese territory. Tons of countries allowed temporary refuge to European Jews fleeing, including the Philippines. But this was with the intent of ultimately settling in America/Canada/Australia/etc. So it not a stretch to think a small amount of Jews ended up in Thailand for the time being.

The only reason why I know this is because you know their (((media))) never shuts up about the "heroes" and countries who helped save them.
 
Oh man, if only Israel even gave a fuck about the hostages and wasn't just blindly firing at every single civilian building that they fancy probably killing the precious hostages in the process.
Can only imagine how many of those hostages are already dead, no thanks to shit skin muslims but thanks to kikes sperging and bombing the shit out of everything.
Yes because the hostages were totally alive to begin with, and they were totally alive and  inside random buildings too, not in Hamas many underground tunnels.
genius argument, you could be a Hamas member with that level of IQ.
 
hamas won one (1) election 15 years ago, then purged all opposition and have basically run gaza as an authoritarian one party state since then.
With no end of help from the Israeli government:

Times of Israel: "For years, Netanyahu propped up Hamas. Now it’s blown up in our faces" – The policy of treating the terror group as a partner, at the expense of Abbas and Palestinian statehood, has resulted in wounds that will take Israel years to heal from by Tal Schneider https://timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up-hamas-now-its-blown-up-in-our-faces/

Haaretz: "Both the Egyptians and the Qataris are angry with Hamas, and they were going to cut all ties with them. All of a sudden Netanyahu shows up as a Hamas advocate, pressuring Egypt and the Qataris to continue” with the financial support." https://www.haaretz.com/middle-east...transfer/0000017f-ded8-d856-a37f-ffd88a960000

Mil Intel Dir Yadlin Comments on Gaza, etc. June 13, 2007: "Yadlin said Israel would be "happy" if Hamas took over Gaza because the IDF could then deal with Gaza as a hostile state. He dismissed the Iranian role "as long as they don't have a port." https://web.archive.org/web/20140904145748/https://wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/07TELAVIV1733_a.html

“Anyone who wants to thwart the establishment of a Palestinian state has to support bolstering Hamas and transferring money to Hamas. This is part of our strategy – to isolate the Palestinians in Gaza from the Palestinians in the West Bank.” – Benjamin Netanyahu https://archive.ph/ABPWd#selection-1144.0-1144.1

Just as a side note, "living in a country that votes for war criminals make you a legitimate military target" is literally the exact same justification Osama Bin Laden used for 9/11 and it was just as retarded when he made it.
 
You are retarded. they were dead the moment they were taken hostage by inbred sandniggers whos only goal in life is to kill kikes. what would they negotiate with? land? captured hamas members? more rockets?
in a situation like this your only option is to assume the hostages are good as dead, because negotiating with the people that just killed 250 festivel goers and hundreds of civilians makes you look weak as shit and is opening the door for them to do it again & ask for whatever the fuck they want.
Because Hamas has taken hostages before and released them in exchange for their own people.
They likely didn't expect the Israeli response to have been immediate and as large as it was.

I'm not saying that the Israelis shouldn't have bombed Hamas, but rather that if they cared about the hostages, they would have secured their release, then bombed Hamas. By beginning the bombing campaign immediately, the IDF knowingly wrote off the hostages and all the talk from earlier about sending in special forces/starting ground invasion to rescue them was meaningless.
 
Because Hamas has taken hostages before and released them in exchange for their own people.
They likely didn't expect the Israeli response to be as large as it was.
Yes and it was a fucking terrible deal for  one hostage.
if they really had over a hundred hostages as they claimed Israel would need to release over a hundred thousand pali prisoners which I don't think is a number we even have.
all of this is immediately following the worst terror attack of the country.
if you actually think for a second that the "right" move was to negotiate you are fucking retarded.
 
>take hostages
>kill hostages
>now you have nothing to bargain with
WHAT THE FUCK MAN THIS IS BULLSHIT! NOBODY FUCKING HELPS ME(sob)
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To be fair, Israel already said that would not try to rescue the hostages. And there's also the fact that I doubt that they had any plan to bargain. The Hamas raid was so disorganized that I doubt that they were planing anything in the long term.
>”the Israelis are starving us”
>has money for 10,000,000 fireworks
Who the fuck is selling these sand negroids all these fireworks?
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The Scofield Bible and it's consequences have been a disaster to right-wingers.
 
Yeah, this. As previously stated, I personally know of one murdered 11 month old girl from the Cohen family in Kibbutz Be'eri. Plus we have the confirmed deaths of the entire Siman Tov family with 3 small children (a 4 year old and 6 year old twins) in Kibbutz Nir Oz. We also know of the abductions of the Bibas family (with a 9 month old baby and a 3 year old), the Asher family (with a 3 year old and a 5 year old), and the Shoham family (with a 3 year old and an 8 year old).
So there is no question that babies and small children were wounded, abducted, and killed. The only question now is how many and how. As for how many: 40 does not actually seem unreasonable considering the mass amount of deaths that occurred and the fact that these areas were indeed home to a large amount of small children, as other kiwi friends above have broken down with demographic info. I guess we’ll have more exact figures as time goes on. As for how: Yes I highly doubt there were mass decapitations, but a few would not be surprising or unheard of (in fact some of the graphic videos from the first day did show at least one IDF soldier beheaded IIRC), and also since I know of one throat cutting incident, I agree with the other poster above who said it’s very possible that people observing the crime scenes saw the slit throats and thought they looked like decapitations which became a game of telephone.
Regardless, babies and small children definitely suffered death, kidnappings, and immeasurable trauma. What’s the obsession with getting goreporn of it?
This list of names of the dead children is currently going around. Any chance you can vouch for its accuracy?

EDIT: I have no idea why the formatting looks so bad after copying and pasting. Hard to fix since I'm phoneposting. Here's a link to the list in a more readable format.

Aryeh Alexander Sandler, the late 5-year-old The late Gabriel Issachar Sandler, 3 years old The late Daniel Aryeh Wiplich, 16 years old The late Elad Fogel, 4 years old The late Hadas Vogel is three months old The late Yoav Fogel, 10 years old The late Yonatan Palmer, one year old The late Shlomo Nativ, 13 years old The late Segev Paniel Avihil, 15 years old Yonatan Yitzhak Elder, 16 years old Yondav Chaim Hirshfeld, 18 years old The late Naria Cohen, 15 years old The late Yohai Lifshitz, 18 years old The late Avraham David Mozes, 16 years old The late Roy Aharon Roth, 18 years old The late Eliyahu Pinchas Ashari, 18 years old The late Mazel Zaribi, 15 years old The late Daniel Waltz, 16 years old The late Amir Naim, 17 years old Shaked Lasker, the late 16-year-old The late Omer Menashe Pisakhov, 8 years old Ella Aboxis, the late 17-year-old The late Rachel Hali ben Abu, 16 years old The late Oz Israel ben Meir, 14 years old The late Nofer Horvitz, 16 years old The late Avihai Levi, 16 years old The late Aviad Yehuda Mansour, 15 years old The late Yuval Abba, 4 years old The late Afik Ohion Zahavi, 3 years old The late Lior Azoulai, 18 years old The late Aviel Yitzhak Atch, 3 years old Two-year-old Dorit from the late Binsan movie The late Roni Sarah Hatuel, 6 years old The late Merav Rachel Hatuel is two years old The late Hila Esther Hatuel, 10 years old The late Hadar Simcha Hatuel, 9 years old Son Jonathan Zuckerman, 18 years old The late Lior Liorinka Niv, 3 years old The late Gilad Giladi Niv, 11 years old The late Avraham Shaked is one year old The late Tomer Almog, 9 years old The late Habib Dadon, 16 years old The late Benjamin Bergman, 15 years old The late Avraham Bar-Or, 12 years old The late Shmuel Zargari, one year old Noya Zar, the late Aviv, one year old Liran Zer Aviv, the late 4-year-old The late Erez Gizro Hershkowitz, 18 years old The late Tom Hershko, 15 years old The late Daniel Harosh, 16 years old The late Shmuel Taubenfeld, one year old The late Moran Menachem, 17 years old The late Yuval Mandelwitz, 13 years old The late Abigail Lytle, 14 years old The late Noam Leibovitz, 7 years old The late Tehila Natanzan, 3 years old The late Elisheva Meshulami, 16 years old The late Elizabeth Liz Katzman, 19 years old Asaf Blondi Tzur Zollinger, the late 17-year-old The late Smeder Firstetter, 16 years old The late Asaf Steyer, 10 years old The late Issachar Dov Reinitz, 9 years old The late Tal Kerman, 17 years old The late Shani Avitzedek Abutzadeka, 16 years old The late Asnat Abramov, 16 years old Matan Ohion, the late 5-year-old The late Noam Levi Ohion, 4 years old The late Yael Ohana, 11 years old The late Orly Ophir, 15 years old The late Noa Orbach, 18 years old The late Dvir Anter, 14 years old Yaakov Avraham Eliyahu, the late one year old The late Lidor Ilan, 11 years old The late Oriya Ilan is one year old The late Gal Eisenman, 5 years old Gilila Bugla, 11 years old The late Hodia Hudish Asraf, 13 years old The late Noy Enter, 12 years old The late Shubal Zion Dickstein, 9 years old The late Elmer Dzbrailov, 16 years old The late Adi Dahan, 17 years old Jonathan Gamaliel, 16 years old The late Hadar Hershkovitz, 14 years old The late Rachel Gila Teller, 16 years old The late Gabriel Hoter, 17 years old The late Shmuel Ephraim Yerushalmi, 17 years old Atara Livna, 15 years old The late Racheli Hali Levy, 17 years old The late Shiraz Nimhad, 6 years old The late Shaul Nimhad, 15 years old The late Liran Nimhad is 3 years old The late Avraham Eliyahu Nicham, 16 years old Baruch Asher Zvi Markus, 18 years old Her father, the late Malka, is one year old The late Nehmi'a Amar, 15 years old The late Linoi Serousi, 14 years old Avraham Yosef Haim Seton, the late 17-year-old The late Gaston Parfi Parfinial, 15 years old The late Ilan Perlman, 8 years old Aharon Mordechai Eric Krugliak, 18 years old

The late Sinai Kenan is one year old

The late Tal Tzvi Tlik Kurzweil, 18 years old
The late Ran Koren, 18 years old
The late Gal Koren, 14 years old
Asaf Moshe Tzafira, 18 years old
Avraham Nere' Shebo, deceased, 16 years old
Avishai Yosef Shabo, deceased, 5 years old
The late Keren Shatsky, 14 years old
The late Nathaniel Riahi, 17 years old
The late Erez Shlomo Rond, 18 years old
The late Ofer Ron, 18 years old
The late Yafit Rabivo is 14 years old
The late Daniel Bat-El Shafi, 5 years old
The late Adi Sheeran, 17 years old
Sara Tafarat Shilon, deceased, one year old
The late Gilad Stiglitz, 14 years old
Zvi Yaakov Yisrael Shabu Zal, 12 years old
The late Hadas Turgeman, 14 years old
The late Michael Sherashevsky, 16 years old
The late Assaf Avitan, 15 years old
The late Irina Usadchi, 18 years old
The late Yosef Ish-Ran, 14 years old
The late Yossi Elezra, 18 years old
The late Yuri Goshchin, 18 years old
The late Marina Berkovski, 17 years old
Shoshana Rachel Shushi ben Yishai Zalvat 16
The late Adam Weinstein, 14 years old
Yaakov Israel Danino, deceased, 17 years old
Genia Keren Dorfman, the late 16-year-old
The late Ido Cohen, 18 years old
The late Maria Tagiltsev, 14 years old
The late Tamar Messengisar, 8 years old
The late Jacob Kobi Mendel, 13 years old
The late Aliza Malka, 16 years old
The late Mariana Medvedenko, 16 years old
The late Naftali Ben-Zion Lantzakron, 13 years old
The late Ronen Landau, 17 years old
The late Alexey Lupalo, 17 years old
The late Raya Sahivashordar, 14 years old
Hamda Bracha Sahivashurdar, the late two-year-old
Avraham Yitzchak Sahivashordar, the late 4-year-old
The late Irina Nepomniaschi, 16 years old
The late Yelena Nalimov, 18 years old
The late Yulia Nalimov, 16 years old
The late Avraham Nachman Avrom Nitzani, 18 years old
The late Shalhav Tahiya Pess is one year old
The late Yair Amar, 13 years old
The late Yulia Yael Skalianik, 15 years old
The late Michal Sara Raziel, 16 years old
The late Malka Hana Malki Roth, 15 years old
The late Eliran Rosenberg, 14 years old
The late Simona Rodin, 18 years old
The late Menashe Mani Regev, 14 years old
The late Katrina Arias, 15 years old
Anya Eniota Kazachkov, 16 years old
The late Golan Turgeman, 15 years old
The late Yochaved Shoshan, 10 years old
Yehuda, who is one year old
The late Ofir Rahum, 17 years old
The late Gil-Ad Sha'er, 16 years old
The late Naftali Frankel, 16 years old
The late Adele Beaton, 4 years old
 
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Yes and it was a fucking terrible deal for  one hostage.
if they really had over a hundred hostages as they claimed Israel would need to release over a hundred thousand pali prisoners which I don't think is a number we even have.
all of this is immediately following the worst terror attack of the country.
if you actually think for a second that the "right" move was to negotiate you are fucking retarded.
I didn't say that, only that the IDF wrote them off instantly and that all the talk about "rescuing them" in the media was a lie.

It doesn't matter that it was a bad deal, the fact that the deal happened meant that Hamas had reason to believe that they could make another deal. They likely kept the hostages alive until the bombing started, at which point they realized there would never be a deal and it was pointless to keep them alive.

Also:
we even have.
Your nationalism is blinding you and stopping you from thinking logically.
 
Civilians didn't shoot shit. Hamas did. Use your brain and stop being a try hard bitch.
Hamas hide out in Gaza and use it as their base of operations and the other Muslims there allow it, either out of fear or more likely, genuine support.

The point is that everyone is sick of Islam's shit and now all bets are off. If Hamas cared at all about their civilians then they should've thought twice about killing other civilians.
By that logic, now that Israel killed thousands of people, it is safe to assume Palestine has a green pass to slaughter and behead every jewish man, woman and child. Israel civilians are to blame I guess same way every palestinian is to blame for every terrorist organization
I don't see you spilling tears for the rave massacre victims, just Palestine lmao.

They're Muslims, they're innately pro-murder of outsider groups and would relish in murdering all Jewish civilians if given the opportunity. Muslims routinely harass the native population of every country they emigrate to, which eventually turns into violence against said natives. I don't feel bad about this at all, we'd all be better off if the cult of Islam were wiped from the face of the Earth. It's just too bad that the majority Muslim population refuse to convert to any other faith or just have no faith and can't coexist with other groups of people either. They would feed themselves into the meat grinder if it meant even so much as leaving a scratch or a dent on the civilized world. They're incapable of realizing that Islam is evil and refuse to leave it, nor are they capable of leaving other people alone. They proved that much when they all came out of their homes and surrounded that truck to start celebrating the corpse Hamas brought back from the rave. They didn't show pity, they didn't show a moral backbone, they reveled in it, because they're brainless savages and they all endorse Hamas.

Soon the question of "where's Palestine on this map?" will be answered with "nowhere."

You reap what you sow, and Palestine has reaped the whirlwind.
 
I'm not saying that the Israelis shouldn't have bombed Hamas
Israelis shouldn't have backed and effectively created hamas in an effort to undermine the PLO and none of this would have happened. Hamas is an asset for Israel that justifies their continued brutality against the Palestinians and sabotage any shot at statehood they may have by linking them to radicalism. Even Israeli leadership has openly bragged about this
 
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