2023 Israel-Palestine Armed Conflict

[LaxerBRO]

HAMAS with a message to the IDF: “A message to the ground forces: This is what awaits you when you enter Gaza”

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Saddam in Persian Gulf I thought he would do a similar thing to American troops by forcing them to fight in the trenches.

We just brought in armored bulldozers and buried the Iraqi soldiers.

 

[Londo]

Unusual. The Strikes haven't came yet and it's almost been routine and by the clock up until tonight.

Drone swarm has resumed though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcPPJqKsTR8

I guess Israel isn't a western state afterall then? Though seriously I get it, the hatred has overfilled. Allied pilots started doing the same thing to Germans as the news of the holocaust and other such atrocities started trickling in late towards the war and everyone just had lost any sense of respect for each other or the dignity of man.

Anyway according to the Geneva Convention this is a clear war crime. On par with shooting parachuting pilots.
But its not even that. It's just ugly to see. This war has enough war crimes in it to fill a courtroom with proceedings for the next 10 years. This is extra spicy because its so flagrant.

She's throwing a fucking grenade on a guy in the water. It's disgusting to watch.

One could also make an argument that as Hamas is a terrorist organisation that it wouldn't really apply in this instance as there was no formal declaration of war with clear ROE; also, another argument that could be made is that they're still active combatants because they'd be resuming their assault if they reached land. I'm not making a moral argument - simply pointing out that international law may not be applicable in this instance, or at least not the GC.

Soldiers treat their enemy how they would be treated. Hamas would gun them down in the water.

This. I think people forget that even with all the bullshit that the Nazis did towards what they considered degenerates, there was still a general aura of 'honour' especially with the Luftwaffe and Navy. There are numerous instances of commanders and generals actively refusing to gun down parachuting pilots or refusing to leave sailors to drown when there was no danger.

The relations between Nazi Germany and the Western Allies was amicable -- even allowing education materials to flow between the two sides so that soldiers could complete degrees while in camps. POW camps for allies and Germans weren't THAT bad in comparison to Russian and Japanese ones. Hell, I live near one of the old POW camps for Germans during the war and some of them were even allowed to go around and pick up groceries, books, etc or attend the local cinema and events under supervision. They weren't frothing at the mouth to murder anything around them; that was the difference between a solider and their political leaders. There was no strong ideological or long-held feud between Germany and the UK,

It's the same reason as the requirement for any and all ships that are capable to immediately stop whatever they're doing to then come to the rescue of any other ship in distress: because if the same thing were to happen to you, you'd hope that others would do the same.

Fuck one of the most tragic events of WW2 was a German U-boat that sunk the Laconia without realizing truly that it wasn't a combat vessel and then trying to rescue its passengers, even going to the extent of flying the white flag of truce with the survivors in tow as it sailed on the surface only to be sunk by allies who didnt realize what was happening.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laconia_incident#:~:text=The%20Laconia%20incident%20was%20a,submarines%20involved%20in%20rescue%20attempts.

 

[Solid Hyrax]

A video and a few images taken from a GoPro of Hamas operative

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Footage probably from West Bank, showing one of the rioters shot and fall

Spoiler: Death

 

[EyeGuy]

Avigdor Lieberman's party has joined the unity government, bringing its numbers up to 82 MP's (out of 120):
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This turned out to be fake news (so far).

 

[Sinner's Sandwich]

A riot nearly broke out when attendees of the London Palestine protest swarmed a dissident Iranian display near Whitehall that showed support for Israel, the UK and Ukraine. They tried tearing down the Israeli flag. Protesters called the liberal dissident Iranians "terrorists," and one shouted, "Khomeini akbar," praising the first supreme leader of Iran following the Islamic revolution. They then repeatedly shouted, "Allahu akbar."

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They are sperging out because of ONE guy. These retards all need to kill themselves (but not in the terrorist way).

 

[Kiwiballs]

Saddam in Persian Gulf I thought he would do a similar thing to American troops by forcing them to fight in the trenches.

We just brought in armored bulldozers and buried the Iraqi soldiers.

Saddam had a centralized command structure (that was easily targeted by the coalition) and an officer corp that didn't know or dare to take independent decisions.
They didn't study Auftragstaktik nor read Che Guevara, let alone have drones, IEDs, VBEIDs, high morale, an urban jungle where every house is a trench layered a thousand times.

Israel will suffer 1:10 casualties. A minimum 5.000 dead and wounded for the 50.000 dead and wounded Palestinians; fighters, supporters and civilians that a real ground invasion will lead to.

This is Mosul x3. In size, in population.

 

[Just_Somebody]

I think Hamas is uniformed. And Israel says it treats this like a state conflict. I mean I dont care about the technicalities of the actual war crime. War Crime proceedings are used by the winning side to kick the losing side in the ass every single time without acknowledging their own evil. The shocking thing about this is how ostentatious it is. How flagrant.

Do they?

What exactly is the standard Hamas uniform that distinguishes themselves from an armed civilian? Because plenty of video October 7th doesn't show any sort of standardization or specific, obvious item that can be identified from a distance. You can tell an IDF soldier from an Israeli civilian at a quick glance. Can that be the same for Hamas?

Was the boat that the Israelis destroyed a marked Hamas boat, or a civilian ship trying to infiltrate Israel?

But again, I get it, its a life and death struggle. I just hope we can stop pretending there's really good guys and bad guys anymore.
If the fact that there are POWs is shocking to you then you're even further gone than me or the Israelis. I mean here you have a country that has built its foundation on the premise of being a persecuted people. Obviously they at least have to play pretend that they care about the Geneva Convention and human rights otherwise the whole house of cards falls apart.

More I'm surprised that the Israelis are continuing to act in a civilized manner, even while people are upset at the fact they just gunned down a bunch of Hamas after they tried to swim away from the ship they were on hoping to infiltrate Israel. These IDF personnel likely knew people impacted by the Oct 7 slaughter, so the fact they are abiding by some semblance of dignity for their enemy is a testament to IDF discipline or just the nature of the Israeli people.

If, a week after 9-11, the US Army deployed NY/NJ units into Kabul, I would have expected a similar rage and desire to murder who they perceive as responsible for atrocities against them and the people they know.

Same with the Palestinians that up to the 7th of October were under a constant siege in an open air prison with 50% unemployment. I doubt they care at all about Jewish lives in Gaza at least, but even Hamas the terrorists took POWs. Probably to negotiate, yes. I think none of them care about each other anymore, international law is just keeping both the Jews and the Gazans from going full retard. Though if Hamas actually did kill those babies that might have already crossed the point of no return.

"Muh constant siege and open air prison" is a tired trope at this point. We've seen luxury hotels and condos, zoos, and other amenities that one might never see in a prison. Israel is not obligated to provide Gazans with jobs or resources. They did, though, and in turn, the Gazans working in Israel on work permits then went and murdered the people they worked alongside on October 7.

Civilian hostages are not prisoners of war. You can make the argument that Gilad Shalit was a POW, but going around kidnapping children and elderly people should not be compared as taking POWs.

 

[变性黑鬼]

Hang in there, Steve.

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Impressive! You got bombs and guns into your prompt somehow? I would really love it if you could give me some tips...

I tried to create a simple image of Ronald McDonald with the Israeli flag and Grimace with the Turkish flag staring each other down in a McDonalds (originally, I wanted them loading guns of course), and Bing blocked every variation of my prompt. Is it more reluctant to show an Israeli flag or Jewish caricature than it is to show bombs and guns?


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At least I still have you, Turkish Grimace.

 

[MarvinTheParanoidAndroid]

Muslimes and jews. 2 sides of the same sandnigger coin.

lol I bet it pained you to make this comparison.

 

[Maori Kiwifruit Growers]

I have a very autistic question about something that doesn't actually matter. I've seen a lot of people refer to the parkinglotification of gaza as "genocide" and "ethnic cleansing." But this wouldn't be genocide, right? They aren't trying to kill all Palestinians or prevent the further propagation of the Palestinian ethnicity, they're specifically killing everyone in this specific area as a way to decimate a terrorist group. You can't really call it genocide if the west bank is just chilling rn, right?

I've seen only pro-israel IRL.

I deal with International law IRL and under the definition of genocide the "parkinglotification" would not count. Unironically the best definition of genocide would be what the the Nazis did to the Jews during WW2. Basically there are very strict rules on what defines genocide. When things reach those definitions you have to get involved what happened in Rwanda is a genocide and because of that certain international rules come into effect That's why ethnic cleansing is not technically a definition but genocide is. What the Israelis are doing is not considered genocide If it was genocide they would be erasing all forms of Arab culture in the land they'd be outright killing or Arabs they're not doing any of that so it's not considered genocide. If you go to Israel many parts of Israel are in Hebrew, Arabic or English or Russian and there is a thriving Arab Palestinian culture remember Palestinian people did not exist until the 1960/1970s they're just Arabs.

 

[Male Idiot]

Muslimes and jews. 2 sides of the same sandnigger coin. Both love posting videos that make them look like shit to normal people.

I thought the video was going to be some boat battle but its just IDF machine gunning swimmers.

They obviously did not pay the swimming tax. That is a big oy vey!

 

[Unsane]

I've no doubt global conflict is on the horizon.

All the stars are aligned.

 

[MarvinTheParanoidAndroid]

And the saddest part is posts like these are getting drowned out of this thread by users that just want to go into edgy rambling about sandniggers and spam stickers, how the hell has this thread not been split in two yet when it's just as bad as the 2022 invasion one was

LMAO no, this is not nearly as bad as earlier war threads. The Russo-Ukrainian war threads were nigh-impenetrable if you weren't a vatnik. This discussion is a tea party compared to that insanity.

 

[Maori Kiwifruit Growers]

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Probably a retarded question but how are the goatfuckers still constantly producing, editing, and posting content online if the region’s electricity and internet has been shut down? Does Hamas have some kind of work-around for it that the rest of the general public in Gaza doesn’t have? Are they just using like generators and cellphone hotspot wifi? Or is their content made and posted by someone who currently isn’t even in Gaza?
(just curious)

They have offices internationally that edit and export this shit. The israeli's are turning off the Internet to cut it off.

Do we know when IDF is planning to swoop in on the ground and rock their shit? It’s weird to me that they haven’t moved in yet, like from a PR standpoint. I’d assume they have to do it soonish because we’re already like a week out from the savage Hamas terror attacks that won them the global sympathy and support they needed to finally blow these fucks to oblivion. If they give it much more time and let the news spend days just talking about the current suffering of gazans who are displaced/killed/wounded/etc, that crisis will become the focus and further brutality will probably lose public support. You’d think they’d want to strike when the iron’s hot and every above-chimpanzee-IQ person is basically on their side.

Then again, it’s also possible that they literally don’t give a fuck no matter what and are gonna get their retribution regardless of what the rest of the world says about it, so timing might not even be relevant to them.

Again they will roll in after Shabbat their time, so after Saturday their time. I know them well

 

[TheBigZee]

Unusual. The Strikes haven't came yet and it's almost been routine and by the clock up until tonight.

Iran's UN supposed letter maybe.

It doesn't matter if Israel can "win", war with Iran is a disaster.

 

[quackrock]

If it was genocide they would be erasing all forms of Arab culture in the land they'd be outright killing or Arabs they're not doing any of that so it's not considered genocide.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_towns_and_villages_depopulated_during_the_1947%E2%80%931949_Palestine_war

During the 1947–1949 Palestine war around 400 Arab towns and villages were depopulated, with a majority being entirely destroyed and left uninhabitable. Today these locations are all in Israel; many of the locations were repopulated by Jewish immigrants, with their place names replaced with Hebrew place names.

It will never not be hilarious that Zionist Jews, who base their whole claim to Israeli clay on a 2,000-year-old grudge, expect a people they violently massacred, ethnically cleansed, and dispossessed within living memory to simply forgive and forget.

 

[Londo]

Something is definitely different tonight. The last few nights have been routine:

1. Drone swarms and roof knocks haven't been followed by strikes
2. At around 8pm GMT there was the sounds of a lot more conventional aircraft than normal
3. Drone swarm after drone swarm but nothing has followed it
4. Normally by now the fireworks would be starting and there would be explosions roughly every 30-45 minutes.

It might just be due to the evacuation order and giving civilians more time, but it really wouldn't surprise me (if the reports that the invasion may happen within the next 24 hours) that we see troops going on or something other than strikes.

Judging by the audio stream of the area, it almost seems like the drones are doing repetitive sweeps around the area to either scout it or map out the current post-strike layout of streets.

 

[MarvinTheParanoidAndroid]

American supporters of Israel love to talk about how "Israel is the only democracy in the Middle East" as a reason to support them, as if Israel is some shining reflection or enclave of America in the Middle East (in reality, the reverse is more often true, but I digress...). On the other hand, a lack of this so-called "Democracy" has been used as a pretence to invade multiple countries in the region.

I for one haven't said any of this shit at all. Does anybody else remember posting what's described here? I don't at all recall calling Israel a "shining beacon of Democracy", nor do I ever remember simping for democracy at all.

 

[PyroJohn]

Anyone who thinks Palestine stands even a slither of a chance in this conflict is deluding themselves.

Palestine reinforcements are #freepalestine trannies and communists on Twitter
Israel's reinforcements are all their allies, and money from America.

 

[Desu Mountain]

On the topic of Palestinians being living crime waves.

https://twitter.com/eyeslasho/status/1712976663141560769