Dax Herrera / Dick Masterson / Daxipad / Juju The Cow / Wolfie / The Dick Show (TDS), The Biggest Problem in the Universe (TBPITU) / New Project 2 - Balding least funny contrarian paedophile defender in the universe, "women are fat" jokes virtuoso, e-daddy of Sektards, chaser and cross-species roleplay sodomy enthusiast. Roleplays as a cow named Juju while he gets fucked in the anus by women. Fat.

[AncientPhosphur]

There are actual international schools of ministry who are literally named ISOM who are largely ignored while this comic book named after its creator's ancestor is being accused of being confused for a company that licenses ministers. I don't even fucking like Eric July, but this is such an insane situation for him.

And to think it’s all because of Fat Dax and Vito the Pedo

 

[Blackstar]

It irritates me when Dax gets away with this kind of stuff.

No need to be angry, just remember that he's an irrelevant balding fat faggot in his 40s with no kids, and he has nothing to show for all he's done, his legacy will be remembered as the contrarian guy who was friends with pedophiles.

 

[Get the rope Macaulay!]

and Dick just basically told him it was no big deal, so he just stopped booking talent for Dick altogether.

that seems pretty accurate from what i'm hearing on old episodes, he's lazy as shit and can't market worth shit, he's cheap and won't pay people. He doesn't understand relationships.

 

[Fleetwood]

This is true. The Indiana School of Ministry does refer to itself as "ISOM". Shit, I mean they both have "School of Ministry" in them.

International Society for Orthomolecular Medicine (ISOM)
Information Systems and Operations Management (ISOM)
Isom Global Strategies
Isom Endodontics | Creating Healthy Smiles
KCoe Isom LLP is a licensed independent CPA firm
Isom Lab
International Society of Obstetric Medicine: ISOM
Isom Elementary - Lynden School District
Isom Scrubs – iSOM SCRUBS - Sells medical scrubs
Isom IGA provides groceries to your local community
Isom Holdings owns and operates several hotels.
Isom Veterinary Hospital

An Illinois School of Ministry and an Iowa School of Ministry exist, both using the moniker "ISOM".

The thing is none of these ISOMs cause big problems for International School of Ministry. Their founders likely do not go around calling people niggers and crackheads and ranting about dem hoe ass roads. They also don't have a retarded following of fans who argue with people online. Look beyond your contrarian support for Eric for one second. I look forward to the entertainment this will provide, as trademark cases take years to play out.

 

[Dumpster dived waifu]

The thing is none of these ISOMs cause big problems for International School of Ministry. Their founders likely do not go around calling people niggers and crackheads and ranting about dem hoe ass roads. Look beyond your contrarian support for Eric for one second. I look forward to the entertainment this will provide, as trademark cases take years to play out.

I do not believe that someone's personal actions have any bearing on whether or not something is copyright infringement. The only pertinent part is whether or not what Eric July is naming Isom is creating brand/copyright confusion, intentional or not, with the copyright holders product of the same name.

 

[Henri Barbusse]

I do not believe that someone's personal actions have any bearing on whether or not something is copyright infringement. The only pertinent part is whether or not what Eric July is naming Isom is creating brand/copyright confusion, intentional or not, with the copyright holders product of the same name.

And we know it is creating completely fake, made-up confusion driven by Juju the Cow's fans. But Eric July's practicing lawyers will probably have a tough time proving that even though it's obvious to everyone here that the confusion is faked.

 

[Fleetwood]

I do not believe that someone's personal actions have any bearing on whether or not something is copyright infringement. The only pertinent part is whether or not what Eric July is naming Isom is creating brand/copyright confusion, intentional or not, with the copyright holders product of the same name.

The personal actions have a bearing over whether the trademark holder is angry enough with the infringement to file a suit. Also they can argue those actions do not represent their trademark. A big part of why to file the suit is to show they wish to assert their trademark rather than let it appear abandoned.

completely fake, made-up confusion driven by Juju the Cow's fans.

The Obtuse Gnome email may be in whatever Eric July's own definition of "Bad Faith" (People new to him may not know July makes his own definitions up for existing words and phrases such as "token"). But the International School of Ministry and ISOM comic are now associated in discussions and videos including Eric's himself. Now if someone of pure intentions were to wonder if they are the same company, the answer is no: I.S.O.M. is suing the nigga capecucks.

 

[Harm]

Think it through for a moment: The International School of Ministry is a school that licenses ministers. The hypothetical customer who would do business with them is either looking to license ministers or become a licensed minister. You are now that hypothetical customer, you either want to license ministers or become licensed as a minister and you'd heard about an "ISOM" which may suit your needs. You go to Google, you type in ISOM, and you see this:



Option 1: International School of Ministry ISOM - "The world's largest Bible school..."
Option 2: Rippaverse - "Avery Silman was once an entry-level hero known as Isom..."
Option 3: ISOM Online - "...the internet's most affordable and effective institution... for the work of ministry."

Trademark law probably looks at these matters differently, but to the hypothetical person looking for ministry resources, this is not confusing whatsoever. Let's go further though, because another issue is whether they might construe these as being somehow related. That page returned in the results doesn't use the term "school" or "ministry" anywhere. It never mentions Christ, the cross, any spirituality or religion, and the controversial and "confusing Cross" on the belt? you have to scroll down to see it, and it's literally this:



My setup uses a 50 inch 4k monitor and I only spotted it because I'd heard so damn much about how this cross will make people think "ahhh, so this is that organization that licenses the ministers!" Most people are scrolling on their smartphones. If you hit the "page down" key 5 times, then you can also spot this one:



If they watch through the video at the top of the page, they'll get a brief glimpse of this "cross" at 1:30:



That's after 90 seconds of being told by a black man this is a Rippaverse comic book. If they make it another 90 seconds, they can get a better glimpse at the "cross":



You'd have to sit through three minutes of being told repeatedly that this is a comic book from a company named Rippaverse before you see this cross. That's three minutes of never mentioning Christ, ministry, religion, or anything related to the ISOM in California. Again, this is from the perspective of a hypothetical person who wants to license ministers or become a licensed minister. Nothing indicates this is even a religious invocation of the cross.

As for the NOW existing drama videos, those videos are centered around how these two separate and distinct entities are now entangled in a lawsuit... how the fuck would that make someone believe they're the same company? That's the dumbest argument yet. A video about them being different companies will make people think they're the same. Makes perfect sense.

EDIT: Forgot to point out that there are more images and depictions of Isom without the cross on that page than there are images of him with the cross.

 

[Schlomo Silverscreenblatt]

Look beyond your contrarian support for Eric for one second.

What about supporting Eric is contrarian?

 

[Dumpster dived waifu]

The personal actions have a bearing over whether the trademark holder is angry enough with the infringement to file a suit. Also they can argue those actions do not represent their trademark. A big part of why to file the suit is to show they wish to assert their trademark rather than let it appear abandoned.

Yeah, but that all falls apart if they aren't consistently enforcing your copyright, it becomes un-enforceable. You can't pick and choose who you enforce it against. Eric could be going on every stream and screaming NIGGERFAGGOT for 10 hours, or being the nicest guy humanly possible, doesn't affect enforcement.

 

[Henri Barbusse]

Yeah, but that all falls apart if they aren't consistently enforcing your copyright, it becomes un-enforceable. You can't pick and choose who you enforce it against. Eric could be going on every stream and screaming NIGGERFAGGOT for 10 hours, or being the nicest guy humanly possible, doesn't affect enforcement.

I don't think anyone actually looked into whether they enforce that trademark. For all we know, all the religious ISOMs in the US could be using the acronym based on agreement with the trademark owner. Though it would be very strange if they did not indicate that on their website or in their documents.

Good Shepherd has, thanks to Dax, a documented incident of someone confusing their trademark and a comic book. It is a ridiculous incident to anyone reading this thread, but it is enough for Good Shepherd to conclude that they need to try enforcing their trademark and get some money from it. Even if July and GS are in completely different fields, it gives Good Shepherd's claims some teeth.

 

[Fleetwood]

screaming NIGGERFAGGOT for 10 hours,

Try that in a small claims court

 

[SteelPlatedHeart]

The thing is none of these ISOMs cause big problems for International School of Ministry. Their founders likely do not go around calling people niggers and crackheads and ranting about dem hoe ass roads. They also don't have a retarded following of fans who argue with people online. Look beyond your contrarian support for Eric for one second. I look forward to the entertainment this will provide, as trademark cases take years to play out.

You’re being incredibly disingenuous considering none of this would be happening if Dax didn’t want to be a shitty jackass because Vito got his fee fees hurt.

 

[Mr. Zed da Robot Poon Fed]

I don't think anyone actually looked into whether they enforce that trademark. For all we know, all the religious ISOMs in the US could be using the acronym based on agreement with the trademark owner. Though it would be very strange if they did not indicate that on their website or in their documents.

I went to the Trademark Electronic Search System at USPTO.gov and searched the ISOM trademark. 2 results of simply the ISOM name bounced back.

The first one for a company that sells electronic apparatus has been abandoned.

And it seems like Good Shepherd is the only live registration of that trademark.

I wonder if they'll pull the "fiction and entertainment content" angle in their goods and services to push this lawsuit, because the problem that they have is that they registered this trademark under classes 9 and 16.

Class 9 has to do with electronic apparatus.

https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/trademark-class-9-computers-scientific-devices.html

Class 16 has to do with printed material.

https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/trademark-class-16-paper-goods.html

Class 16 is probably the most important one.

What Goods Are Included Under Trademark Class 16?​

The following is a more comprehensive list of Class 16 goods:

• Watercolor paintings, oil paintings, watercolor pictures, oil paintings, custom paintings printed picture cards, aquarelles, chromolithographs, photographs, engravings, and etchings.
• Paintbrushes, paint palettes, watercolor boards, watercolor pencils, watercolor saucers, arts and craft paint kits, paint rollers, painting sets for children, paint trays, and easels for painters.
• Works of art made of paper or cardboard, bookbinding material, adhesives for stationery or household purposes, architects' models, and figurines of paper-mâché.
• Printed materials, printed books, printed worksheets, printed education materials, printed paper signs, printed bulletins, and bookbinding material.
• Typewriters, staplers, notebook covers, staples, packing tape, paper tape, printers type, and print letters and blocks.

What Goods Aren't Included Under Class 16?​

But you would not use Class 16 if you're applying for:

• colors and paints (Class 2 - Paints), and
• hand tools for artists (for example, spatulas and sculptors' chisels) (Class 8 - Hand Tools).

Examples of Trademarks in Class 16​

You can find trademarks that have been applied for or registered by the United States Patent and Trademark Office (USPTO) under Class 16 in the Trademark Electronic Search System (TESS), an electronic trademark database.

Some well-known examples of Class 16 marks include:

• HALLMARK (gift wrapping paper)
• HARPERCOLLINS (printed books), and
• SCHOLASTIC (student workbooks and teaching manuals).

Here's more information with regards to these classes (coming from me, who isn't a trademark expert):

https://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/com/sol/notices/class.html

Class 9: Pre-recorded software in hard form (CD-ROMs, diskettes, magnetic tapes, etc.) are in this class with an indication of the subject matter or function of the software. The subject or function must be detailed and specific. Very broad statements of function such as "computer programs for business use" are not acceptable. Of course, computer hardware is in this class.

However, software that is down-loadable from a computer network is considered a service since there are no hard goods received from the supplier. The service is providing the software on a global computer network. Subject matter or function of the software must be indicated, but the service of providing it is in Class 42. An acceptable ID in this area would be "providing computer software [indicate specific subject or function] that may be downloaded from a global computer network." The same of specificity of subject matter or function is required in this situation as is required for the hard goods in Class 9.

Class 16: As with software in Class 9, only hard copy is considered Class 16 goods. Magazines or books that are downloadable from a computer network are not hard goods and are not classified in Class 16. Publications that are down- loadable or viewable by means of a computer network is considered a service since there are no hard goods received from the supplier. The service is providing the publications on a global computer network. Subject matter of the publications must be indicated, but the service of providing it is in Class 42. (See Class 42 discussion below.) This topic is also discussed in the Examination Note of June 19, 1995 which may be found in the Notices section of the FolioViews ID Manual on PTONET.

 

[Harm]

The tone of this video is very telling. Dick keeps saying that the reason Null hates him is because of the pedophile, and Pedo sounds sincerely dejected as he says "everyone's saying you're just going to reboot the show without me, so go ahead and do it." Their whining about Null is vapid and delusional and not really interesting.

 

[Pissmaster]

The tone of this video is very telling. Dick keeps saying that the reason Null hates him is because of the pedophile, and Pedo sounds sincerely dejected as he says "everyone's saying you're just going to reboot the show without me, so go ahead and do it." Their whining about Null is vapid and delusional and not really interesting.

Vito's so tied in with branding himself a pedophile that he calls his fans "Vitophiles"?

 

[Henri Barbusse]

Vito's so tied in with branding himself a pedophile that he calls his fans "Vitophiles"?

There needs to be a word to call them. After all, the one thing more pathetic than a pedo are pedo cheerleaders.

 

[genericwhitemale]

The tone of this video is very telling. Dick keeps saying that the reason Null hates him is because of the pedophile, and Pedo sounds sincerely dejected as he says "everyone's saying you're just going to reboot the show without me, so go ahead and do it." Their whining about Null is vapid and delusional and not really interesting.

They keep fixing on the fact he said a felony stalking charge carries a maximum of 10 years, and act like "oh yeah right, like Riley is going to get 10 years in jail"

 

[Dumpster dived waifu]

he calls his fans "Vitophiles"?

How can you name that which does not exist?

 

[huckbeine]

just use this better and more comprehensive trademark registration for ISOM trademark and Rippaverse trademark

here's the Rippaverse trademark

So, in order for the ministry to win, they have to establish a case that the rippaverse is illegally using the ISOM trademark to market the comicbook, which is actually protected by copyright.

Now to put it in layman terms, trademark infringement mostly refers using the trademarked name in order to promote another similar product. However, these also have very much specific limitations, and usually refers to the brand.

ie. for example, Toei cannot sue walmart for Walmart for selling one piece bikinis because it infringes the One Piece trademark. Sony cannot sue 8-bit do for controllers that says "works as good as Dualshock controllers" even if Sony owns the Dualshock trademark. they can sue mad catz if they says "this controllers have Dualshcok motors"

Now, what does it do with the comic book? the ministry has to try to establish that the comic is branded as the same as their organization or using their trademark to sell their product, which is funny because Isom is a literary work and not a brand. I guess their whole case is relying trying to establish that the ISOM comic is religious therefore tangibly related to their ministry, but last time I check, the ministry doesnt have a trade dress, design rights registration for the cross. weird.

also, for those retards that will argue with retaded sophistry "duh, if that's the case, i can make a comic with coca-cola name" No, Coca-cola is protected by trademark and copyright